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Leaked Version Gets No update.?.

I just read that motorola is locking the leakers out of the official update. Now, is this even a trivial matter. Can't you just downgrade to 2.1 and then upgrade to the ota.

xxjekelxx said:
I just read that motorola is locking the leakers out of the official update. Now, is this even a trivial matter. Can't you just downgrade to 2.1 and then upgrade to the ota.
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Yeah man, what you read is true. Good ole' Moto has decided to block us out. Luckily we can always downgrade and then OTA.
All I need is someone to post a video on how to do this. Step by Step like am a complete noob with no idea of what is going on. Anyone up for the challenge?

wouldn't you just use rsd lite and flash the sbf back to stock. Also what if this is a trap set up by motorola to get people back on their software. Im thinking...since motorola is so shady, anyway....that its just a little fishy. After the eris leak, i think a lot of people are pretty certain on a way out before they flash something. You would think that motorola would know this as well....im just sayin'

You have to sbf your device.. After that it still wont boot, so once your done sbf"ing you go into the factory recovery and do a reset, good to go
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Joe92T said:
You have to sbf your device.. After that it still wont boot, so once your done sbf"ing you go into the factory recovery and do a reset, good to go
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I would love it if you would write a guide detailing what the hell you just said. I have no idea what SBF is. Haha I know, I know. There are guides but I am sure there is more than one person who knows little about this and would like something step by step to follow.

To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
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Thought I'd add the link from engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/30/motorola-says-leaked-droid-x-android-2-2-build-wont-be-updated/
I totally love my X, but Motorola's over-the-top hostility towards the modding community is starting to wear on me. I know that they could give two ****s about having me as a customer, but I am considering moving on to a Fascinate.

Joe92T said:
To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
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that stinks! If they did that, I may be screwed in terms of resale value.

To be honest, verizons networks check the build number of your device in order to see if you need the update or not depending on what version you run. I'm sure verizon could already of went through the list ahead of time and if it saw a mismatching build number to what its suppose to have, it could just block our phones ID from receiving OTAs
has verizon done this with a previous phone? I put a custom rom on a droid1 and then took it back to stock 2.0.1 and then upgraded ota. I was just wondering if verizon has done this to any of their phones before

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Just found this from AndroidLive:
The Motorola Support Forums mentioned the following today…
"WARNING: Do NOT load the leaked 2.2 upgrade that has been floating around on the Internets. There is currently no upgrade path from that load to the official 2.2 load that will be released by early September. Unless you have some plan to flash your phone back to the current official load, you could be stuck on the leaked version."
So obviously we will in fact be able to flash back to 2.1 to get the official upgrade if we wish

MOTOROLA SUCKS!!! How can a cell phone company near the brink of destruction come back and act like they are a big deal. I should have waited for the epic and moved to sprint. I might just sell my x and get the samsung tab when it comes out and use a regular cell phone again.

"has verizon done this with a previous phone? I put a custom rom on a droid1 and then took it back to stock 2.0.1 and then upgraded ota. I was just wondering if verizon has done this to any of their phones before"
The X is the 3rd android model i've owned on verizon, and i've never seen them do that.
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xxjekelxx said:
MOTOROLA SUCKS!!! How can a cell phone company near the brink of destruction come back and act like they are a big deal. I should have waited for the epic and moved to sprint. I might just sell my x and get the samsung tab when it comes out and use a regular cell phone again.
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I couldnt agree more
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Even if we did get blocked out (I doubt it, besides there is always a way around) why bother yourself too much with it. Those of us who loaded the leaked version obviously didn't have a problem with using leaked software. We will just load the future versions when they are leaked...

gw4k said:
I would love it if you would write a guide detailing what the hell you just said. I have no idea what SBF is. Haha I know, I know. There are guides but I am sure there is more than one person who knows little about this and would like something step by step to follow.
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In response to the needing directions...look up "Droid X SBF File released" on these forums to find them. I would link it for you but I can't post links yet and I also don't want to just post the directions as if I was taking credit for them.

How does this even matter? There's a few ROMs in the works and we have custom recovery up and running. There will undoubtedly be a "vanilla" ROM coming out soon enough, and once that stuff hits, are you really gonna be like "OH NOES I NEED TO INSTALL THE STOCK OTA UPDATE!"? No, you're not. On top of that, worst case scenario: you just SBF flash and then install the OTA updates. "Problem" solved.

This strange, its probably the same build. Therefore no ota lol. Just a thought.
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Like some here, I could care less knowing that it will come full of bloatware and blur... which no one likes. Oh, and that we will be getting even better firmware from folks like Birdman and p3Droid
MOTOROLA- YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF for letting such good hardware be sold with such an unusable UI.
When I flash stock and blur is running with all of its widgets up the yin-yang, I can't hardly imagine it is the same phone as to what I, and others, have made the phone what it could be.
I almost feel embarrassed to state I am a X owner when I am not talking to a fellow android user and they know nothing of the phone other than what they saw in the store=CRAP.

Out of all of us who want custom ROMs and made the effort to flash the leaked Froyo build who really cares if Moto blocks us out. Fact is we rooted our phoens and wanted Froyo so we did what needed to be done. To further add most of us I'm sure are removing all there crap bloatware to begin with. Bottom line IMO is piss on the Moto/VZW update. If it is anything like what was relesased on the phone it will be garbage and we don't want it anyways.
And as mentioned if people really want the OTA update not a big deal to SBF flash the .604 2.1 file and yo uwill be fine to get the update. Oh and for everyone reference the leaked Froyo build we have is NOT the official OTA update there is at least one or 2 newer builds already.

Are we ever going to get 2.2

I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
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It will get 2.2 eventually, but only time will tell how long. If we can get kernel source for the I500 phones, we should be able to get you a working kernel, and you may be able to use one of the Fascinate Froyo ROMs then. The biggest problem you'll have is getting the kernel until Samsung releases the OTA or source because of the different video driver used for the screen/ticker/soft keys.

lincoln3823 said:
I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
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I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??

sytech55 said:
I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??
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Well it was said that samsung was charging carriers to release ota firmware updates. I don't know how much it is true but I'm starting to believe the rumors.
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If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.

sytech55 said:
If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.
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There is only 1 con of rooting. Having to re-root after an OTA update
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Yea are no cons every since I rooted my phone. I was able to freeze all of verizon garbage freeing up memory thats usually taken by crap that I don't use eg. skype and you can root and unroot as many times as you like
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I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?

sytech55 said:
I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?
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If you want, I could make a tutorial much like my one for CWM. It might take me a bit to edit it though, but better late than never XD
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Tutorials are always great. I'd love to see it.
BTW, I rooted my phone using SuperOneClick. It worked perfectly and I've verified it using Root Checker. Now my next step is I want to remove or freeze the bloatware.
I'll direct future non Subject (Are we ever going to get 2.2) related questions to appropriate Threads posting.

I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!

jodakiel said:
I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!
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There is no leaks available yet so the only way to get to 2.2 is to wait, or hope that Adrynalyne can get a leak.
But both imnuts and Adrynalyne are both working on custom roms so there will be some love for the continuum

Continuum
It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?

tclair said:
It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?
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samsung submitted ec17 for the fascinate to verizon...and apparently that is still in testing...im just gonna assume it ll fail testing like most of their updates and never come out
the fascinate root crowd no longer really cares though as the mesmerize 2.2 officially came out w/ source....
but it seems like continuum updates follow quickly behind fascinate updates...so if hypothetically a fascinate ota occured like this week then it would probably be soon after for the i400

Ok, I was just fine tweaking 2.1 for now until something happened and we finaly got 2.2+, since Eclair isn't really that bad. Now I am starting to see 2.2+ only apps (ones that I want to try mostly) and it's starting to make me less patient. It saddens me since this phone had so much potential with the decent hardware and interesting ticker feature, but it is quickly being left in the dust as the little android that couldn't... /sadpanda

Looks like Samsung has released the Froyo source code for the Fascinate... that could be a good sign... Of course, isn't there a Fascinate on Rogers (Canada) that has had Froyo for awhile?

I know I saw it on android central and I got excited but then again we did get left behind once before
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So how do I back up my existing rom. I'd liked to try the non bloated dl17 but want to make sure I can still get back to original if need be.
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Looks like the Fascinate update will start rolling out tomorrow.... Here's hoping we're not far behind.
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Where did you get this info?
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Gingerbread droid x leak update.zip

Here is the official leak for droid x gingerbread. Make sure to wipe/data before install. Warning!! There is no official root yet. Make sure to make a backup. I take no respnsibility to what happens to your phone. I get stock quadrant scores of 1800. You have 72hrs to download it. Enjoy!!
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...ingerbread-2-3-3-update-zip-released-tbh.html
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;;banana;;
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I just got done upgrading to Gingerbread on the DX! Used the Team Black Hat app on the market (happily paid the $2), Koush's Droid X bootloader, and Clockwork Recovery. The TBH app downloads the gingerbread rom right onto your SD card into a zip file. Opened up the bootloader, pushed the button to boot into recovery, and it did. Then, using the volume buttons, scrolled down to make a backup. Done. Then scroll to "install from zip", not the "update" option. Use the camera button to select your options, by the way. From the install from zip option, it pulls up the folders on your SD card. Selected the teamblackhat folder. The zip was right there, highlighted and selected, and away it went! When the prompt said it was finished, I navigated to the "reboot" option, and it rebooted. Right away I could tell it was different because the Motorola logo was colored red. It took probably 5 minutes to fully load, but when it did, I had Gingerbread! All of my apps and settings were there. Didn't have to call and re-activate my phone, didn't have to login to google, nothing! Not sure if it pulled in the settings from the CWR backup or not, probably not. Now that I think about it, this is a Motorola release, intended to be an upgrade, not a full ROM swipe. The instructions and files are at mydroidworld... Have fun!

I want to do this but I don't want to lose root and then have to wait til root is available. How's it running sop far?
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Awesome. New color scheme. No lag. Home launcher is sweet. Custom icons on dock. Blur widgets still ugly but their interfaces are cool card like tiles. Still playing but really like so far.
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Not all apps are in market...including Slingplayer which I need...dealbreaker
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can someone kindly de-odex the IME and post an apk for it?

the 1 thing i wish they would've fixed in gb is the mother effin unlock/lock screen lag
(but they didn't)

webmastir said:
the 1 thing i wish they would've fixed in gb is the mother effin unlock/lock screen lag
(but they didn't)
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It's pretty easy to eliminate that. (Atleast I don't experience it anymore and all I've done is root/overclock. (Yeah even as I write this I remember there isnt a root yet for 2.3.))
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gc14 said:
Not all apps are in market...including Slingplayer which I need...dealbreaker
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You can always download them to your phone via https://market.android.com/

chbennett said:
It's pretty easy to eliminate that. (Atleast I don't experience it anymore and all I've done is root/overclock. (Yeah even as I write this I remember there isnt a root yet for 2.3.))
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The only way I know to eliminate the lag is to run a lock pattern. I have OC'd to 1.2 and its still there. While it is less, its still not gone compared to a vanilla lock screen.
But I'm with you webmastir, if their was one thing, the lockscreen would be it. The second item I would have wanted was the sleep effect the nexus S has.

Someone needs to root this!!

Wait it doesn't do the CRT shutdown animation?
There goes half my excitement. It's the little things.

SomeDooD123 said:
Someone needs to root this!!
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Got root already ...just waiting on instructions
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(-)2 known issues so far (+)YOU LOSE NO DATA ON UPDATE.
The two issues with the update:
1) A small sync "icon" remains on top of the notification tap. I do not actually believe that it is in a constant "syncing state", its just an icon that remains at the top.
2) And this is a big one. All four of the Droid X hardware keys at the bottom, have there lights that will not go off as long as the phone is "awake" ie, your using it. After it is back in its idle unused standby state, lights go back off. Not an issue with performance at all, but a huge cosmetic issue and annoyance more then anything as the lights on the hardware keys shine very brightly.
As far as updating, or those on the fence about it. The update total time, that I documented takes around 10 to 15 minutes depending on how much data you have to back up before adding the update. I have a lot more data then the average user, so mine took around 15 minutes from start to finish. 8 minutes to back up. 2 minutes to apply update, and 5 minutes after the first reboot to apply changes. The backup time is the only one that will very depending upon your data. The other times are going very dependent on your system data (SD card not included, as this is not needed to be backed up, because it already is, because its on a physical external card obviously) but be approximative to the time.
On the plus side, there are way more pro's. There are some that I have noticed that no one has mentioned on any forum yet. The biggest of these is the change to voice synthesis speed. Before the voice only talked in one speed. The new update gives the option to change the built in Android voice synth to almost 6 different speeds of reading back to you, very very amazing. And of course, SPEED. The new update is the first update in a year and a half that I have been modding and using the Android operating system that I have had to really sit back and say "wow". I came from the Eris until the X came out, made the change immediately. The new interface and color changes are pretty much what CM has been doing since his releases began. And the biggest pull for me to apply the update: YOU LOSE NOTHING. NO SIGNING IN TO GOOGLE, NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE CHANGE TO YOUR HOME SCREEN, NOTHING IS LOST, BECAUSE ITS AN OFFICIAL UPDATE THAT WAS REJECTED. Trust me, with all the roots and ROM's that we were using on are Eris, this is a no brainer upgrade. Your not losing anything because once the the OTA update rolls out, after the root (and it will come, only a matter of time) you can go back if you like. For me, I am sure Moto leeked this, they had to have, there is no other explanation. I have seen this time and time again since Androids release. I wrote just a little over 24 hours before hearing anything about the leek, I wrote to my facebook friends "dont worry, i am sure a leek of the rejected update will make its way around" Less then 24 hours after saying that on Sunday, it happened. The only reason I would say not to apply the update, is because you have NEVER DONE A MOD TO YOUR ANDROID DEVISE. If you can afford to maybe have something go wrong, then do it. On a noob level, this is probably a 2 or 3 on a scale of 10 being the hardest. The two known issues, I am sure will be worked out. I am almost even willing to bet, since Moto did not give and official statement of the leek when the whole damn world was buzzing about yesterday. They will even put out a patch or update to those who updated early with the leek. If they didn't want us having it, they would go public warning us, like they have before. It could happen later today they say, DO NOT UPDATE, BECAUSE _____ <-- insert reason there. That is my personal educated opinion only. Do not expect it to happen, just dealing with these types of things for the last 10 years now, and given there hush hush while this is being passed around, at the same time Verizon said no, it leads me to believe the devs, or at least one of them said "lets give the people what they want, screw the system". Because as we all know, nothing gets pushed without the carriers approval. We waited months for Android 2.1 after HTC went on record and put out statements saying to the affect "Hey guys, we did are part, its in Verizon's hands now, were sorry you haven't gotten it yet, but we cant force then to put it out." You who wait, could be waiting for months guys, you could be waiting till later this afternoon to get the OTA. Its anyones guess. After hearing I would lose no data because it was an official "rejected" update, it was a no brainer to me. Not lose any data, and get the update I wanted? Downloaded and applied with in the hour last night. two bugs, I can deal with, when the OTA comes out, I have my whole system of 2.2 completely as it was with no changes and all backed up to apply it if I chose too. Hope that helps gives an idea on whats going on so far. If your going to do this, and never have before. -PLEASE, -READ AS MUCH AS YOU CAN BEFORE YOU BRICK SOMETHING OKAY? THERE ARE VIDEOS, MANUALS, MESSAGE BOARDS LIKE THIS TO HELP YOU. IF YOU DONT FEEL CONFIDENT YOURSELF, DONT< WAIT. 2.2 is more then perfect to wait it out for 2.3. Sorry for any typos there might be. -Me.

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.... -Me.
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Glad you remembered to put "-Me" cause I wouldn't have known

journalistically said:
And the biggest pull for me to apply the update: YOU LOSE NOTHING. NO SIGNING IN TO GOOGLE, NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE CHANGE TO YOUR HOME SCREEN, NOTHING IS LOST, BECAUSE ITS AN OFFICIAL UPDATE THAT WAS REJECTED. Trust me, with all the roots and ROM's that we were using on are Eris, this is a
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I wouldn't say that. I got stuck in a bootloop after doing the update, and I've read on some other forums people have has similar issues when they didn't do a wipe before updating. Once I SBF'd myself back to stock then did the update, everything was fine, and loving this leak.
I wouldn't use not losing your data as a plus to do this. There is always the risk of losing your stuff, always make a backup before you try anything like this.

Hate to say this,
But the new Moto Blur is awesome.
I like the ability to make custom app drawers,
The color scheme is easy on the eyes,
Theme is nice
so many new options,
The dock is different, and I like it
I dont have the sync icon showing all the time like others.
My hard keys dont stay lit all the time like others
battery life is the same
performance is........well for me, a solid 60% improvement.
This was worth it big time. Hell at this point, I dont care about root, I am happy. I only rooted to put roms on, to get rid of 2.2 moto blur.
Wife is jealous, wants this on her Droid Pro. ha ha ha honey, shoulda kept your DX.

Does anyone have some screen shots of GB on the Droid X ?

It's not the 2.3 release that leaves the perpetual sync at the top.
I have that in 2.2. Sometimes it goes away but most often the sync icon is there on the top.

Munching popcorn from the Froyo seats

I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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Technically with the locked bootloader everybody is running a Motorola released version. This new version of gb that was released was by an ota to a few phones. While not a full fledged update to gb it is very stable and reliable. I have been on it and have zero problems. All of my apps appeared. And no bootloops. The directions for everything that needs to be done are very well done and there is almost a zero percent chance of truly bricking your phone. And with sbf'ing and everything I had to do to get to gb it only took me about fifteen total minutes to get there. Enjoy your stable Froyo and popcorn and I will enjoy my stable Gingerbread.
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jazaddict said:
I havent GBed. I wont bother unless its Moto released and rootable. Why? All the "where is this app?", "where is that feature?", "Im loopin bootstrap!", and my personal favorite :"how do I get back to froyo? " ...just click ur heels Dorothy......
Don’t get me wrong, Im the happy beneficiary of rooted stock. And for the folks that are all about the phone geek thing knock urselves out, Im enjoyin the reads. But let's be honest,GB isn't a warm fuzzy balance of enhancements for time invested.
After couple of functionality tweeks like rooting for bloat reduction, Froyo is highly functional and solid. I personally have a limited amount of free time...which incidentally is maximized by my highly feature-laden rock solid DX...and while Iapplaud u bleeding edge cowboys, I'm gonna stay put...til Moto releases GB and somebody here gets it rooted.
just sayin...munch,ymunch,munch...
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wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.

razorloves said:
wow. thanks for the worthless post. save that kind of stuff for your therapist. nobody here cares to hear that you're not a flashaholic. geez. how arrogant
EDIT: lol. i just came across your last couple posts in another thread. i see the true reason you havent gone to gingerbread is because you dont know what you're doing. Which, there's nothin wrong with. But dang dude. really? i'll go back to eating my popcorn and enjoying my rock solid gingerbread rom, lol.
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lol that's funny.

He must have got this site confused with facebook.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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Ur right that Im not up on all the knowledge necessary. And that's part of the point....why spend the time? What's the reward for the risk? I've read more "help,I did what it said and my phone won't this that or the other" than ur "rock solid GB" stuff. Glad ur happy, sorry ur such loss poor converationalists.
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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes

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What's the point? Why do you do things that you do? It's simply because this is a development forum for people who enjoy this stuff. We enjoy flashing things and learning all we can about this stuff. It is fun for us. The reason people have issues is almost 100% user error. That means that they forgot to do something. Or didn't fully download a file. Or did something in the wrong order. There's almost never a problem with the software provided to us. The files work, people just make mistakes
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+1. With the locked bootloader and no way for people to try to flash the radio or kernel. It has made this phone nearly impossible to hard brick. I only know of one. Every other person has worked through there problems by the helpful people and guides on this and other forums. You stick around here long enough and you will be eating gingerbread instead of popcorn.
Edit: I should say no way to flash a custom kernel or custom radio.
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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.

I'm not trying to go against the tone of the thread here by saying this, but I have Gingerbread and am really not looking back. Stock Froyo was boring, everyone will agree with that. From there you had either ApeX or rubiX (or later Liberty). I ran all three actually and settled between Apex and rubiX Focused. Apex is/was good for battery life and overall stability. rubiX Focused is/was good for speed and stability, battery life was a bit less than Apex. But to me Gingerbread is the best of both worlds. 30-40 hour battery life PLUS the much improved (for most) Quadrant scores and overall speed and snappiness is like rubiX + ApeX. (video here)
I guess all I'm trying to say is that *when done properly*, if you flash from your favorite ROM to Gingerbread it's completely doable without any hitches or hangups. The thing to remember here is this: you're going from your favorite build/ROM/setup to something completely foreign. When I first flashed 2.3 (the most recent OTA, deodexed & rooted) there were some things I complained about. Then, with time and just playing around with it, I figured them out. I think most people are "having issues" with it because it's really that much of a change. It's not the jump from 2.2 to 2.2.1. It's a whole new setup, interface and all. I think it's the process that scares people, and that's understandable, but just remember.. it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to brick your phone. With SBF, you'd almost have to be trying to mess things ups. Find a decent guide and give it a shot. You can always flash back to your current setup.

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While I share the philosophy of the OP (waiting for OTA and z4root-esque rooting), I don't agree that anyone should avoid applying GB. I did that sort of thing with my WinMo phone and if I felt the need to GB now, I absolutely would with no worries about the quality of the rom.
And with the potential for a long break without being rooted, I may just do that. I'm not up to speed with a lot of this, but will a root for the OTA be possible and will it take some time? I needs my AdFree, Tether and CacheCleaner.
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Just a heads up, be careful with Wireless Tether on 2.3.. or even 2.2 if you're going over 5GB. People are saying that's being watched now.

I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I didn't really say "what's the point", I said the reward for time spent seemed dubious.....and I said I applaud the efforts and am the beneficiary of them. But damn there's lotta varying degrees of success. Part of my trouble is my PC's incompatibilty with the DX drivers that prevents me from sbfing....which seems like the safety net.
Buy beyond that I haven't read anything that puts GB so very much up the foodchain from froyo ....boring? Froyo is boring compared to GB how?
And zippy? My DX is very zippy...
Maybe Im not running enough stuff ;-)
I have to say, extended battery life has my eyebrow raised...that'd be welcome.
To be honest I was thinkin about loading the dx drivers on the DAW side of my dual boot XP box...down side is that boot is offline with no antivirus etc to maximize the resources for the studio ....don't wanna **** up a well-oiled machine....which brings me back to sittin in my chaise lounge on the sideline til GB is as easy as rooting &deodexing was.
Thx for the civil discourse.
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I am definitely getting better battery life. The other day I calibrated my battery and had to wait for 1 day 13 hours and change before the thing finally died. Also if the drivers aren't working for you try this. http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...-solution-your-windows-rsd-lite-problems.html
just put it on a cd and go. It is linux. I haven't used it since my windows 7 64 bit system did the job for me just fine, but I have heard a really good response with this. Also, if you have any questions about it the guy is really good at answering them.
Since you are on stock....you are really in the perfect position to upgrade to gb the easiest. Root, Droid 2 Bootstrap, wipe, run the 3 files from tbh, wipe, and reboot. Off you go.

Just to note TBH has put out a rooted version of the GB leak....

I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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I have blur_version.23588.p1 p2. And p3 plus the droid 2 bootstrap. So ur sayin I'm good to go from 2.2 rooted stock froyo up to GB without needing any sbf connection to my PC, right?
This is a good time for me to phuck around w the phone cuz Im off this week.
Couple of last questions :
I bought power amp...am I gonna lose it?
Does the camera settings issue mentioned recently apply to me on this load?
What does OTA stand for?
Can I get back to froyo 2.2 without sbf?
How many pecks in aa bushel?
Thx
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1. No it will redownload after you flash
2. Yes. No idea why or how to fix
3. Over-the-air. It is an update sent directly to your phone from Verizon.
4. No. But SBF'ing is not difficult at all, it's just the idea that scares people and that people make stupid mistakes
5. I think two, or four maybe. But that is completely unrelated. Look it up

Thx....damn quick response.
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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Well she-it...I was all ready to pull the trigger when I double checke file size. #2 should be 16.2m and im only showing 21.7k. Only one of the three links is working.
Anybody know of another link?
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all links work here
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...3-3-4-5-588-install-patch-root.html#post68035

No joy.
Got an abort on the first file. (Good place to get one I guess). These files were downloaded to the wifey's laptop and copied over.
One distinction ...instructions here included "wipe", but the instructions from the modderX site did not mention wipe.
Furthermore there are 2 wipes .... I tried wiping the cache...no joy. The other wipe looked too scary..sumpin about reset factory blah blah blah.....
Its good to be on vacation.
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Fascinate Gingerbread leak, what does that mean for us?

So, the Fascinate recently had a Gingerbread leak drop..... Since that phone is our phone's brother, do you think we will get it too...... Eventually? What do you guys have to say?
Btw: I am still on Vacation for another few days... When I get back I am going to recruit some graphic artists or whatever on xda to see if they can photoshop a quick green wave, or some other color that you guys like... Because I suck at graphic designing... It shouldn't be hard for anyone interested, because they can just use the template from the original blue wave.... Hopefully xD
Btw2: did you guys see the continuum softkey topic on the front page a couple days ago? D
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i would think the continuum would follow the fascinate with gb...however given the rather poor sales of the device (by all accounts a commercial flop) verizon/samsung just might not feel like spending the r&d on it...but im hopeful for u guys they would

I find it unlikely we even get Froyo, yet alone GB. Furthermore, I find it unlikely any developer is going to work on porting GB for the Continuum with the Fascinate leak.
Verizon isn't going to pay Samsung to update this phone. With such low sales, it's more cost-efficient for Verizon to forget about us than it is to release updates. Business is business.
Obviously I could be wrong.
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I find it unlikely we even get Froyo, yet alone GB. Furthermore, I find it unlikely any developer is going to work on porting GB for the Continuum with the Fascinate leak.
Verizon isn't going to pay Samsung to update this phone. With such low sales, it's more cost-efficient for Verizon to forget about us than it is to release updates. Business is business.
Obviously I could be wrong.
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it would be almost impossible to port the touchwiz leaks (froyo/gb) to eclair continuum...aosp is possible i guess...but idk
just hope for the best id think

samuelhadams said:
I find it unlikely we even get Froyo, yet alone GB. Furthermore, I find it unlikely any developer is going to work on porting GB for the Continuum with the Fascinate leak.
Verizon isn't going to pay Samsung to update this phone. With such low sales, it's more cost-efficient for Verizon to forget about us than it is to release updates. Business is business.
Obviously I could be wrong.
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Pretty much this. It's not going to happen. I've given up on ever getting an update. As soon as my job picks up (FINALLY) I'm selling it and getting a charge or x2 or something.

No expert here..but willing to venture
Did the update, it worked with out a glitch.. was able to root using superoneclick from xda..worked if I did not allow it to install busybox, when I did for somereason my phone wouldnt charge? Which btw adding busybox never popped up before when using superoneclick to root other androids...so far so good.. so far the changes are minimal.....a few extra settings such as font...but nice to have all the same..oh netflix works from the link provided with the leaked instructions...could be a tad scary to flash using ogdin..but it works.

Wait you updated you fascinate with this or your continuum?
I was actually just going to ask something too. If the big problem with modding is the ticker and everything else with the fascinate is essentially the same...can't I just update with this and noir have the ticker work or will the absence of ticker support just kill the phone?

I have tried before to install fascinate odin files on our phone... Didn't work xP The graphic drivers are different, so you can't see anything xP
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I figured it would be a no... could we not just c/p the modules for the drivers and over write the ones for the fascinate? Sorry for asking a lotof questions I'm just horrid at programming so I can't exactly just go try it... Though I want to learn if theres any chance we could get this running from the fascinate build. Anyone know how hard that would be? Or is that even possible?

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I figured it would be a no... could we not just c/p the modules for the drivers and over write the ones for the fascinate? Sorry for asking a lotof questions I'm just horrid at programming so I can't exactly just go try it... Though I want to learn if theres any chance we could get this running from the fascinate build. Anyone know how hard that would be? Or is that even possible?
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They aren't compatible. The drivers we have are for kernel 2.6.29, and the Froyo kernel is 2.6.32.9 (the .9 doesn't really matter to much) and Gingerbread is 2.6.35.x Somewhere betwee 6.29 and 6.32, there was a huge change to the kernel source, and I'm guessing any drivers built for the Eclair kernel we have are not going to work well on Froyo. The Fascinate Froyo source works to build a kernel, but the initramfs sucks, and it isn't something that is easy to troubleshoot really, and I don't have time right now to do so.

Thanks ImNuts, really. I have until about my birthday, July 1st, until I start reteaching myself programming and building it myself. Least I can do is try lol.

TraMaI said:
Thanks ImNuts, really. I have until about my birthday, July 1st, until I start reteaching myself programming and building it myself. Least I can do is try lol.
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If you can get the kernel working, you should at least be able to get most of the system to Froyo, based on the Fascinate releases. The ticker would be an absolute no-go IMO, but you should be able to get the soft-key button images on there.

At this point I don't even care about the ticker. It doesn't work for 90% of what I want to use it for anyways. I would rather just have a phone capable of Froyo use haha.