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[Q] Best Kernel ?

Whilst a full Android Build has some flavours thus making it taste-dependent, kernels are the core component of each meal here - and therefore I think it is a valid question - which is the best kernel so far.
There are several - each one with a problem
1. some freeze due to gsensor
2. some work with RMNET, some with PPP only
3. some have premature flash on camera
4. some have louder sound volumes
5. some have tethering
6. some cause random data disconnection ..
But it seems that the problems are different. It seems that if the best of all kernels is collected into one - then there will be a perfect kernel.
I have tried several but lost count and trace of which kernel exhibit which problems.
Important for me are 1, 4 and 6 to be working. The rest are bonuses. Have you tried a kernel that meets this?
If not - could you describe your kernel - what is working and what is not - taken from personal experience !

Hello,
I tried the froyo 2.2.
It freezes when I am calling someone (usually I can't do missed call because the OS freezes and I can't end the call before my friend opens on me the phone and answers :S)
This is the most annoying.
Also sometimes It looses the touch. Only buttons work

assaad33 said:
Hello,
I tried the froyo 2.2.
It freezes when I am calling someone (usually I can't do missed call because the OS freezes and I can't end the call before my friend opens on me the phone and answers :S)
This is the most annoying.
Also sometimes It looses the touch. Only buttons work
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Yes that seems like a G-sensor problem - if you use GScript Lite and the two little scripts to kill the gsensor - freezes will go away. But you will loose the gsensor

iivuch said:
1. some freeze due to gsensor
2. some work with RMNET, some with PPP only
3. some have premature flash on camera, some will be good
4. some have louder sound volumes
5. some have tethering
6. some cause random data disconnection ..
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Important for me are 1, 4 and 6 to be working. The rest are bonuses. Have you tried a kernel that meets this?
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That's a general issue of actual kernel-developement. I think I have tried almost every kernel since the past weeks.
Whatever kernel you are using you always have one ore more issues.
The actual evo-kernel gereration resolved touchscreen freezes, has tethering, louder volumes but only works with ppp. There are (new) problems with camera (flash), music stuttering and random data disconnections.
The older desire-based kernels do not have random data disconnections (especially on rmnet), camera works imho better (but not perfect), but have random touchscreen freezes (if gsensor is turned on), no tethering and are more quiet in using the phone.
You see that there is always a compromise you have to face.
AFAIK the kernel developers have their focus on developing an EVO-based kernel and they are working hard to resolve the issues. The desire-based kernels don't have a great future because there seem to be general issues that cannot be resolved.
Not to forget the new Desire HD. I cannot estimate, what potential there is for using it on HD2.
IMHO it will take another 3-6 weeks to resolve the greates issues with EVO-based kernels. Maybe earlier...

Indeed!
Yes, the EVO kernels fix some problems probably because they are not very mature yet. GSensor still not working properly, and although freezes have gone, an annoying lag to wakeup is still there (not often - but still - noticeable)
I tried mattc 1.8 .. which is based on EVO, and although I liked the nice strength of the sound volume, it would drop data from time to time. It is great when it is working, but you can't see if it is working, unless you open something that needs data, because the indicator always stays - as if all is working well. And that of course means - all your background sync will fail from time to time.
I reverted back to mattc 1.7 RMNET which has both very fast and very stable data connection. I had to disable the GSensor - to get rid of the screen freezes.
Anyway - lets support the developers - they are doing a great job! I am sure that not before long, we will all have very stable Androids on our phones, and then we will be creating yet another partition on our SD cards to accommodate the new ports of WP7. On a completely different topic - the new HD7 - apart from having slightly more RAM - has the same hardware specs as our HD2. It seems that HD2 will keep its greatness for a bit longer And yet, its price is dropping on ebay, as it is now almost a year old model.

[Q] Android on HTC Blackstone?

Hello there,
Yes, I'm well aware of the stickied thread that has most of the answers I was looking for, but there are still a few questions in mind:
1) Is it slow on your Blackstone or does it work just as fine as Windows Mobile in terms of speed (opening, closing applications, making a phone call, etc.)
2) I Googled about Android on WinMo HTC phones before I came here and I came across a few posts that said sound isn't that great and text messaging doesn't work most of the time. Is that true?
3) If you can do me the biggest favor and list the MAJOR issues (downsides) of running Android on the HTC phones that came with WinMo?
I am buying an HTC HD in a couple of days and I was really eager to try out the Android OS. I have had bad experiences with Windows Mobile before but I am pretty sure with XDA Developers on my side, everything will be as easy as water.
Thank you very much for taking the time to read this, guys.
PS: Is the HTC Magic worth it? Is it or the HD better?

All
1) It works quite fast - for example i use to draw with skecher and listen some music^^
at same time, applications starts pretty well (but some times crash just after start, but not often!)
2) messeging works fine (as sms gmail gtalk), no questions to browser speed as well
3) camera not working
PS i'v bought HD few weeks ago only because Android works on it

Thank you very much for your quick and thorough reply, Mr. htcrum.
I guess the camera isn't much of an issue as I'm not the type of people who keep taking pictures. That's in addition to the fact that I have a digital camera that I can just use.
By the way, is switching between Android and Windows Mobile fast or does it take a long time? How long does it take to be precise?
Oh and is battery life when on Android way worse than on Windows Mobile or do you not notice a difference?

switching from android to windows takes 1-2 minutes (actualy i never check this)
booting android is mostly similar as windows
about battery - it discharges in about 10-12 hours with slight usage, and I really don't know how it is in windows - i use it for android booting only
and i forgot to say about another issue - usb mass storage might not work

htcrum said:
...about battery - it discharges in about 10-12 hours with slight usage, and I really don't know how it is in windows - i use it for android booting only
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What do you really mean about " about 10-12 hours with slight usage"? I am just interested because I would really like to test some android rom's but if the battery life is so bad I can wait little longer and stick on WinMo.
Just for comparison my average battery live with WinMo 6.1 without touchflo is from 3 to 5 days depending on how much I use GPS and surf around internet.

[Q] Andrid stabilaty on HD2 leo (us)

/Hi im still new o XDA everyone here are great so far. I have searched for a stable andriod rom see lots of them I was wanting to know to from you guys wich is the most stable to use and easiet to install . Thanks ahead of time for your great knowledge

They are all about the same as far as installing is concerned. Extract, copy to SD card and run. And which build is better is subjective...some are better then others, but there is no "best" one, only the one that works best for you.

I tested a bunch and the most stable and best one I've used is the bluetopia v 1. 0. 3,great Rom and use hastarin 8. 4 kernel, very few if ever any data drops and great camera

Depends on which phone you have - the TMobile US version with the latest ROM has a few issues with voice quality and data. So far I've found MDJ Froyo Sense CLEAN to work the best. Calls are very clear and speed is pretty amazing for running off the SD card. Battery life is pretty decent and data drops are pretty rare. I will say that the phone signal is a little weaker than the WINMO stock rom but I still get 3G/Edge speeds. Haven't fully tested everything but it works pretty well. Can't wait for the native port to work - if it ever does.
The only issue I have with Android on the HD2 is the hard buttons. Because the OS relies so much on the hard keys EVENTUALLY they will wear out. In WINMO I use them rarely to navigate and operate the phone. To turn it on when it goes to sleep I use SHAKE'N'WAKE so I don't even use the hard keys to pull it out of sleep.
Also tried a few others with limited success. Liked the EVO roms but the voice with the stock rom was robotic and data drops were pretty bad. NEXUS ONE was also good but the interface seemed dated. Speed was slower than the rom I'm currently using.
As far as WINMO 6.5 vs Android - I don't see a problem with WINMO but the browsing experience is much smoother and you have full flash. If Flash was available and integrated into either Opera of IE I don't think I'd switch.

I think your concern about the hardware buttons wearing out is an unfounded one. Thousands of phones use hardbuttons...and work perfectly fine. Most Android phones still use phsical buttons, and most people don't have problems with them wearing out.

You are probably right - more than likely they'll last much longer than I'll own it.

[Q] Most stable NAND build?

I tried the initial NAND build upon release but had to go back to Winmo for the following reasons;
Higher battery drain than Duttys Family Rom
Led stuck on all the time after a message
No screen rotation
Crashing playing .wma files
Contacts listed by first name, no way to change it without editing it all.
Random freezes, slow to respond after standby, low volume in calls even after trying the speaker fix, g sensor would not calibrate.
All in all, enough to put me off. However, having gone back to winmo I can see that android is the way I want to go.
So, simple question; which build, if any, has the most of these issues fixed particularly battery drain and rotation? I am not bothered about getting 'under the hood' to tweak everything just a nice clean stable ROM with no fancy UI tweaks.
And I have searched on this for days but there are many, many opinions in hundreds of pages of comments. Thought I would ask here for the benefit of anyone else looking for a nice clean android build.

I have only tried the CM build (call me a fanboy), and it's really stable. I have noticed the 60mA battery drain still happens at times, but using Quick Reboot (free on market) one or sometimes multiple times fixes this without too much effort.
Speed, stability and features (well, the ones I use, didn't do a thorough test on everything) are all good.

I will no doubt slap my forehead for this but what is the CM build?
Has any build so far fixed the battery drain and sensor properly?

Cynagen mod =cm
I'm using MDJ's gingerbread its very stable and plenty of free space but no gps usb or camcorder apart from that smoorhest Android build I've ever used and one used most

i suggest NexusHD 1.9 NAND version, it's very stable, smooth and fast and i have no problem with it. just works well ;-)

Are these suggestions based just on personal preference or do they address those issues I had in the first post i.e battery drain, lack of rotation (G-Sensor problem I guess), LED stuck etc?
Appreciate your input all the same but I feel like reflashing Android today and want the best ROM...if those issues are fixed.

CM based or Nexus1. I think that until they are optimized, Sense are a no-go for Nand : too heavy, too big. You will be left with 50-40mo for apps and that includes apps2sd. Count on the double with CM and N1 Nand's. And in terms of battery life, G-sensor, they work perfectly.
The Led seems to give problem to most of the Nand for the moment...

Downloading the Nexus 1 rom now, I can live with the led if sensor and battery are better, especially as it is so easy to get back to winmo if needed.

I Know Ill Slap Myself Too For Asking Nooby Questions...but
Does it Matter What Radio i Use To Flash nand android as long as its above 2.08.whatever number ....i forgot....will it still work

I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.

splinters69 said:
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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Sync contacts with gmail then it stores them in the clouds

Try HD2ONE froyo cm 6.1.1 nand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It supports using your existing cm6 data.img on sd card. This alleviates the issue of low device storage.
This was rock solid as an sd build and better on nand.
I'll be sticking with this until gingerbread has all features working.

[Q] Anything you miss in WM6.5?

So, I am trying Android on the SD card of my HD2 for a few days and liking it so far. Thinking of moving completely from WinMo 6.5 (after a few years of usage) to Android. But thought I might ask you guys if there is anything major that Android can't do but WM can.

Hi,
To be honest, everything works for me better in android than in WM. Looks much better, more stable, more apps and no problems at all. Android worked even better in early stages than WM in its best days. I will not miss WM. Just try it and you will see it for you self.

AthenaLod said:
So, I am trying Android on the SD card of my HD2 for a few days and liking it so far. Thinking of moving completely from WinMo 6.5 (after a few years of usage) to Android. But thought I might ask you guys if there is anything major that Android can't do but WM can.
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Since leaving WinMo, I haven't looked back. Now that I've become familiar with Android, I doubt I'll own another non-Android operated phone. IMO, Android is superior to WinMo.

[Q] Anything you miss
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the registry. i feel like a newb on android, 20 some years with my fingers in the registry, , all gone, , sigh.

The only thing i missed about windows was the ability to charge my phone while being turned off. But since i installed clk i can do that again haha. And i'm not going to lie I do miss running custom window roms here and there.

The interface. The automatic APN settings. The registry. The roms. The ability to charge while phone is off. No 2 sec lag on wake up.
Yeah pretty much all the things I miss about winmo.

Nope love Android...No desire to use windows!

I miss how well the GPs used to work on WinMo 6.5. I have tried almost all the builds with almost all the GPS fixes out there on Android but none have given me satisfactory results. The GPS lock for me still remains very erratic even in wide open fields.

layering. with CHT2.0 you can layer on the homescreen. allowed theme freedom. android feels so regimented in that way.