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Hi, everyone...The reason why I create this thread is because this could help most HTC HD2 users solve their problems...Although we are not developers,but at least we as a user can try various combinations of WM rom,Zimage,Android Build, setting, rootfs files...and etc...and get the best combination...It is unlikely for every user to try every build at the moment...so I hope that you all can share your experiences here, and maybe give developers come out with some new ideas....by porting between various builds...Thank you so much...
Currently,i'm using Telstra ver 1.42 stock rom+3/8 cotulla Zimage+michyprima rootfs for dans froyo without sense V1...radio is 2.10.50...8(KRN)...now i'm using android everyday and just open the WM to do some little things like transfer songs and file...now almost everything is working on the build i using...As everybody knew that Camcorder(via third parties or CM6RC2 android build),bluetooth known issues(like files sharing)....furthemore,in my case USB files transfer is inconsistent(sometimes i can find the files that transferred to my phone directly, sometimes I need to boot back WM to see the files),this an weird issue...
So, hope everyone enjoy the android experiences...No developer like(netripper,dcordes,dans,cotulla,etc....)there is no android....
Cheers...Great work guys...We appreaciate your hardwork...
I'm currently using Energy MaxSense and mattcfroyorc1.3a with Radio 2.12.50.02. Been working great for about 3 days now. I found that this combo fixed the robotic voice problem on calls. I've also been able to talk and surf at the same time... I don't know if that was planned or not, but I love it!!! Thanks to all developers.
I'm using matcc + froyo rc1.3a with ChuckyDroid Rom (default radio) and everything works great (asidefrom the known issues)
THE ONLY THING is bothering me is the constant FREEZING is starting to piss me off! Maybe because I am using a class 4 SD
Using Darkstone Desire v5.7 - 25 zimage plus the 1gb image.dat - i use it because i get the best 3g performance right now with it... i tested all others - pretty fast but it seems to lag when it comes to data transfers - on some i just can.t get it to work (there is always wifi, but i am used with 3g). Also, on the froyo builds i have noticed some apps not installing (downloading but not installing). I support all the developers in here, this is just a personal like.
Oh ! i forgot! i.m on energy rom right now
WM ROM: Energy's July 24th Dinik/Glass theme
Radio: 2.12...etc...
Android: MattC Froyo RC1.3a
zImage: 8/3.
This is by far the fastest build I've come across yet, but the phone slows down to an absolute CRAWL when installing apps from the market. Hasn't frozen completely on me but definitely becomes unusable for 20 seconds or so. Other than that I love it. The GPS works great, the data is fast (I never use WiFi) and it's been very stable so far with no crashes in 2+ days.
Browser is very slow to use.
WM ROM: Miri's v1.6
Radio: 2.08...etc...
Android: MattC Froyo RC1.3a
zImage: 8/3.
I have been running this build for almost 4 days now. Very impressive, responsive and overall fun to use. Some of the issues I've noticed include: -
1. Phone grinds to a halt when installing app's (downloading is fine) and resumes again after 10 - 15 seconds later.
2. The browser is extremely slow to use . Some websites will not load completely even after leaving phone for a few minutes. Navigating websites is very slow (i.e. scrolling with finger), can be even worse if flash content available. Pinch and zoom also very choppy on websites.
3. Google maps, when trying to pinch and zoom, when bringing fingers together i.e. zoom-out the map zooms in, and vice versa when trying to zoom-in the map zooms out.
Can someone please explain why the browser can be so slow?
Other than that i'm practically using this android build as my main OS.
Rom: cleanEx Dse 3.5
Radio: 2.11.50.20
Android: froyo 1.3a
I for one am very impressed with the latest development builds of android, there nearly quite there in terms of stability, there are some freezes though when the phone goes into sleep and you try to wake it up. also web browsing is very slow but i wouldn't expect it to be fast knowing it is a beta, but most of the interface is silky smooth, another thing the 3d test app crash sometime trying to access 3d hardware, also when you go back to wm the time has zipped forward. as soon as this os is ready to integrate fully into the HD2 im going to use android builxs permently because wm simply is so outdated and has never been friendly to use. please please get contacts to work and sms import from wm.
Hi,everyone,thank you for the reply you all have posted....great job and great sources of information...Besides,I'm happy and like the way you all listed down the rom,radio,Zimage,version of android build & etc.....it is great...hope more people will share their experiences here as well...
Desire builds are by far the best
ROM: stock 1.66
radio: 2.10.......
Android build: darkstone desire build V5
all in all i found that this is the fastest most stable build, i use launcher pro not HTC sense.
i've tried the dan and darkstone froyo builds but they weren't as stable as the desire builds (especially V5) with lots of freezes and occasional green screens and sleeps of death. still haven't tried the matt builds i gotta admit.
Desire V5:
-calls work both in and out
-sound works great
-smooth scrolling in menus
-browser works smooth with flash
-no freezes, BSODs or GSODs
-no sleeps of death
-wifi & 3G work fine
-market works great
-can install apps from the market or SD card
-G-sensor works great
-apps and games are smooth and fast
issues:
-bad power management which leads to excessive power consumption (therefore leading to short battery life and temperature rising when using the phone)
-mounting SD card
-camera limited to 3MP and camcorder not working
-speed still needs improvements (when using live wallpapers the device becomes laggy, still usable though. photo album in sense is laggy. etc....)
-low ringing volume
i know that many of these issues are problems with all android builds and not just the build i use, but i'm listing all the issues that separate these builds from being our main OS for everyday use on our beloved HD2
Im using shubcraft rc1 v1.1 with the latest zimage....chuckdroid rom and radio 2.10.50.26...everything works great only problem is it lags a little bit here and there...
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HD2 T9193
Radio: 2.07.50.27-2
WM Rom: Miri's 17.5
Android Rom: Desire Build V5 (Eclaire)
1gig data.img
3/8/10 zImage
Been using the Launcher Pro "theme?" since I dislike the Desire Sense homescreen bar/softkey. I've tried other Froyo roms but it wasn't quite the same -- default white bar at the top/CM6's dock bar icon thing (though I did like the default Android lockscreen better).
Haven't had too many problems with the v5 rom, mainly just the battery running out much faster than WM.
Volume seems fine, market place works though I used to get slowdowns and even freezing before I increased the data.img size. Now its probably just occasional slowdowns, I think.
Wifi works as excepted, so does text messaging.
I've been using Cloudy's launcher to boot Android though I'm probably going to have to use another loader since I'd really like to get all the Eclaire files inside a folder instead of having them lying about in the root of my sdcard (but I'm not sure if other bootloaders will solve this problem).
i've tried all flavour android roms available now and various combo's of zImage's
currently using zego version (found on robsbay.co.uk) with cortula's latest zImage.
Stock ROM and 2.10 radio (i think)
The phone is totally usable, have been using it as an android phone in it's various guises for over a week now. Battery life is the real killer, once this is sorted I'll be happier with it.
Seem to struggle using the browser over 3G though, very hit and miss if i can get on any website at all, any ideas what this would be? (T-Mob UK)
I'm using shubcraft cm6rc2.. its working great for me.. my only wish would be for a sense build which is working to be useable for me. So far I've tried darkstone, which works well as well and mattleo with sense..
However, mattleo made my phone run hot and drained my battery too fast and was laggy every now and then, which is kinda of sad because I liked what I was using, especially sense when the rom isn't lagging..
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I've tried shubCRAFT, Energy, dan1j3, xTarantula, Darkstone and mattc. And by far, the mattc and Darkstone builds have been supreme for me. They are smooth and bugless. The mattc is the best of the best, though. I find it to be representative of an actual ROM and believe any battery life issue would resolve itself if it were running in NAND, as and actual flashed ROM, rather than the power hungry card reader.
The latest mattc 1.4 build presents a major speed improvement, especially at the Market, but is speedy everywhere, and buttery smooth. What amazes me is I'm using a Class 2 card....don't yet have a Class 6...lol...and I went yesterday to a local Verizon and checked out the Incredible and Droid X. The 1.3 mattc build was faster and smoother than the Incredible but a bit slower than the Droid X. Now, however, with this 1.4 build, it is neck and neck with the Droid X for speed and smoothness.
The shubCRAFT build, the screen won't light back up after a standby. The xTarantula loops during boot-up and can't make it boot no matter what. The dan1j3 build is also an excellent build and was actually faster and smoother running than the 1.2 mattc build, but it wasn't rooted and I couldn't use setCPU or screenshot apps. Now, however, the mattc build (1.4) is at the tip top of all of them
The Darkstone build is the next best, for me. It is buttery smooth and generally bugless. Once in a while I will get a greenscreen at boot. I love the style and implementation of Launcher Pro in the Darkstone build. Mainly because of the scrolling dock buttons. If the Darkstone build had functioning Bluetooth and GPS, I would be hard pressed to decide which of the two builds, the mattc and Darkstone, I would permanently install if they came to flashable ROMs.
The Energy build was good, but it was too sensitive. Tapping the dots at the dock buttons most of the time brought up the button replacement function rather than the preview screen. I had to tap the dots incredibly fast to bring the preview screen up. This is how the touchscreen function was throughout the build.
My ranking of these builds - "1" being best:
1 -mattc Froyo 1.4
2 -Darkstone Froyo 1.0
3 -dan1j3 Leo Froyo
4 -Energy Desire
Anroid builds
Tried the same, always back to WM, best for Leo until now
im running the latest Dutty ROM that is now the creme one, running great with android, managed a full day battery on android with casual use, not yet tested if there is no echoing with the latest zimage, the freezing can become a pain, had a few times where its froze while typing a text message and ive hit the back key and its deleted the whole message, i think this will be fixed when cotulla updates his kernel to use the extra ram in the HD2 as its only using 252MB atm which is eaten pretty quick when running sense.
mattc Froyo 1.4...
I've been running the mattc Froyo 1.4 and so far, so good. There are obviously still a few bugs running around, but so far nothing serious. The android market has been working well, WiFi worked better than in winmo (in terms of handling certificates), e-mail is working great, and so on... Sometimes the lock screen hangs, and once the screen went very dim but fixed itself after a reload... Have yet to mess around with GPS. Running off the stock SD card that comes with the phone. Complete specs in sig.
EDIT:
OK, so maybe I spoke a little too soon. Some other issues have cropped up, such as random reboots of my phone. Calling has started having a "buzzing" sound to it, and doesn't sound right. I think there is a fix for that, but I've yet to track it down.
TMOUS
Radio: Stock
WM Rom: Miri's 17.5
Android Rom: Darkstone's FroyoV1
8GB Class 6 MicroSD
3/8/10 zImage
Everything is working great with the new zImage. Call quality has improved as well. Only thing really lacking is the Camcorder, which is not really an issue to me.
I find this build to be the quickest and most stable build right now.
WM ROM: Energy
Radio: 2.12.50.02
Android ROM: shubCraft 1.1
the best combination for me... shubcraft runs extremely fast (ok, not as fast as on my desire before but ...),
even when installing software. i used mattc with chuckydroid before and it wasn't that fast, maybe because of sense.
i also hat many errors with it, for example setcpu didn't autostart and that really s****!
and i also wanted to use winmo, but with chukydroid it is far away from usable
No errors until now, when running setcpu and batterytime i have ~130mb free ram, thats pretty good, with mattc there were only ~90mb!
edit: navigon is also running good, not perfect, but good
Device: TMOUS HD2
WM ROM: 21911 Energy ROM (Aug. 1 Cookie Themed)
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
Android ROM: darkstone HD2froyo V1
SD Card: Stock Class 2 16 GB
This was my first try at Android on my HD2. It is very smooth, and fast. Marketplace is pretty quick. No problems installing app updates. Most apps install fine. (Pandora, Slacker, Shazam) All working properly.
Calls are good (although can be noisy/static sometimes). I receive and send texts fine.
Wi-Fi works
Playing Videos and music from SD card works fine. Viewing pictures also works fine.
ISSUES:
Slight lag, (especially when scrolling in the app list)
Green screen of death several times
Battery life gets me to the afternoon (barely)
Get Sleep of Death often
Volume is kinda low
Taking pictures with flash is nearly unusable. Feels like too much flash. Picture comes out too bright / white washed
Onscreen keyboard has slight lag with key taps
Flashlight app doesn't work (tried a few)
I hope this doesn't make it seem like I'm complaining cause I'm not. I absolutely love that I have the opportunity to use Android now and am using Android about 70% of the time right now.
I have been out of the scenery for a while. Is the Android development completed that is 100% working on the HD2?
I didnt want to install something that was not totally developed.
Is it running now?
although my phone is working just fine with Winmo.
Are you serious?
Did you even read before coming back into the 'scene'??
As of 29 August it is daily usable with these missing features/problems:
- No internal memory (NAND) boot yet.
- Auto Backlight (light sensor) is not working. (But fix is posted in git)
- There are frequent touchscreen freezes if phone is moving and autorotate is NOT disabled.
- Battery calibration might be problematic.
- PPP data is not stably working for everyone. (RMNET data is also slow beucase of mtu workaround)
- Some people still complain about some BT devices.
- Wifi hotspot not working yet. (It is made but not yet posted)
- USB tethering works with rmnet but not with ppp yet.
- Call volume/speakerphone volume may be lower than optimal.
- clrcad.exe in winmo is still required for sound in android.
- Background audio may affect call audio.
- Compass is off.
- Some people complainig about gps not locking, but is probably because of data not working properly.
I think all these are unimportant and current builds are daily usable with the workarounds. (autorotate=off most important)
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
engelsione said:
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
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because android on the hd2 while not 100% perfect, is better than most native devices.
not to mention that apps like
camera 360
snap photo pro
retro camera
wide arrange of sound boards
wide range of home replacements
DB meter
Spectrum anyliser
its a complelty new and so much more fun phone, that is no longer limited to closed software that costs a fortune.
engelsione said:
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
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I honestly don't believe winmo on HD2 is 100%...If we want to say 100% working, I would boldly say that winmo is NOT 100%...It works but still got it's own set of problems...I have problems left and right, even after switching roms...HTC touchflo not working properly, messaging glitches, constant reboot to remedy lockups...I just got fed up...Put on Android...Not everything works but the majority of it work and that's good enough...I only go back to WinMo for GPS (android got this working already) and transfering BIG file (movies, tv shows, etc)...
One thing for sure about Android is not experiencing lockups...I almost NEVER reboot android. In a week, Android is used 90% of the time and 10% on WinMO...This is just the opinion of a single person (ME) but I'm sure many felt the same way too.
So to recap, there's no such thing as PERFECT. WinMO on HD2 aint perfect and so does Android on HD2, but Android on the Galaxy S, Nexus One and Droid aint perfect either.....
No build is ever 100% perfect not even the iPhone in fact.
The Android is pretty much 90% (or less dependent on build) for me for everyday use. I enjoy mattc's Nexus One build a lot since I can dial down the 3G to EDGE in fact.
I am testing a lot of crazy builds but I prefer the Desire and Nexus One (the latter especially) the most for the builds. Using Dutty's ROM at the moment to see whether I get extended battery life.
veda_sticks said:
because android on the hd2 while not 100% perfect, is better than most native devices.
not to mention that apps like
camera 360
snap photo pro
retro camera
wide arrange of sound boards
wide range of home replacements
DB meter
Spectrum anyliser
its a complelty new and so much more fun phone, that is no longer limited to closed software that costs a fortune.
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This^
I've switched to Android 2.2 on my HD2, for one reason of the Marketplace. Apps for Android are just so much better.
memin1857 said:
As of 29 August it is daily usable with these missing features/problems:
- No internal memory (NAND) boot yet.
- Auto Backlight (light sensor) is not working. (But fix is posted in git)
- There are frequent touchscreen freezes if phone is moving and autorotate is NOT disabled.
- Battery calibration might be problematic.
- PPP data is not stably working for everyone. (RMNET data is also slow beucase of mtu workaround)
- Some people still complain about some BT devices.
- Wifi hotspot not working yet. (It is made but not yet posted)
- USB tethering works with rmnet but not with ppp yet.
- Call volume/speakerphone volume may be lower than optimal.
- clrcad.exe in winmo is still required for sound in android.
- Background audio may affect call audio.
- Compass is off.
- Some people complainig about gps not locking, but is probably because of data not working properly.
I think all these are unimportant and current builds are daily usable with the workarounds. (autorotate=off most important)
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Awesome summary, thanks.
my hd2 is still heating up like **** when using android, i hate that!
im not gonna use android fulltime as long this isnt fixed :/
and the touchscreen freezes are fking up everything too, disabling autorotate is a no go, cause i dont know another way to rotate the screen, and im only writing in landscape..
D4rkSoRRoW said:
my hd2 is still heating up like **** when using android, i hate that!
im not gonna use android fulltime as long this isnt fixed :/
and the touchscreen freezes are fking up everything too, disabling autorotate is a no go, cause i dont know another way to rotate the screen, and im only writing in landscape..
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this is fixed, if yoiu would just read the damn forums.
Install setcpu. sorted, the cpu is now scaled depending on how much processiong power is needed. it ramps down to 250mhz when screen is off or when not much is needed, and it scales upto 998mhz when it needs full power.
i run android 90% of the time now, it only gets hot when im charging (which is normal) or im running something processor intensive (which is also normal, same happens in winmo) leave it alone and it cools down
I can't wait until the HD2 boots the Android Rom natively and we can remove all traces of the archaic Windows Mobile.
veda_sticks said:
this is fixed, if yoiu would just read the damn forums.
Install setcpu. sorted, the cpu is now scaled depending on how much processiong power is needed. it ramps down to 250mhz when screen is off or when not much is needed, and it scales upto 998mhz when it needs full power.
i run android 90% of the time now, it only gets hot when im charging (which is normal) or im running something processor intensive (which is also normal, same happens in winmo) leave it alone and it cools down
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im sry, im reading the forums and even saw that with setcpu, but nobody told that it fixes the heating problem
ty, im trying now
Hi guys first post, so no flaming. (your found of flaming here !!)
I have been running Andriod on my hd2 for 2 weeks now, and it works prefectly, Super fast, battery us lasting around 18hrs, same as on stock rom. But the most important feature is that it saved my HD2 from the bin. It really is different beast and for the first time in six months I have enjoyed being a HD2 Owner.
It is working great
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FroyoStone Sense - Version 3.1
i use this version without any problem everything working
and there is no touch freeze or anything
you can use it in your daily life
Well, I got my HD2 to run Android okay, I guess. It does run better then the Vibrant. . .
But, my battery life sucks and I have no file transfer while running Android due the damn OS being on the SD card.
The WMO has all kinds off little glitches. . . . The battery life is half decent. But, there are no apps and it feels like Windows.
Anyone out there with a HD2 running at 100%? And if there is, it is hard to believe.
Uh...yeah? Mine runs pretty damn great with a custom WinMo ROM applied(Energy)...haven't soft reset in weeks. And there are applications for Windows...you just have to think outside the market
Well, the Wmo runs way smoother over time. . .
I am also running a Energy ROM. . . It's still has some glitchiness to it though.
samson_420 said:
Well, I got my HD2 to run Android okay, I guess. It does run better then the Vibrant. . .
But, my battery life sucks and I have no file transfer while running Android due the damn OS being on the SD card.
The WMO has all kinds off little glitches. . . . The battery life is half decent. But, there are no apps and it feels like Windows.
Anyone out there with a HD2 running at 100%? And if there is, it is hard to believe.
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Mine runs awesome on the stock 3.14 ROM. It also runs awesome with a stripped 3.14 ROM and the Bluetopia 1.0.4 Android Build. I am getting about 12 hours of heavy use and more than a day if I turn off my data when I'm not using it. These phones are what you make them. You just have to try a lot of things out.
Out of the box with the stock rom they weren't awesome. Touch response was great, but it froze a lot. Then they updated the rom and it had ****ty touch response but didn't freeze. So people cooked ROMs with 2.10 touch drivers. Then they came out with 3.14 and everything worked.
On top of this, there are a ton of stable Winmo cooked ROMS to choose from.
And as of recent, there are flawless Android builds out there that run perfect with 3.14 stock ROM and lot of cooked ROM's as well. I prefer a stripped down 3.14 ROM for Android only use.
If Tmobile ever comes out with an Android native phone that is as nice as my HD2, I'll pick it up. Mostly because I know that WinMO 6.5 is dying and because the Android market is WAY bigger with better programs and utilities. I would end up keeping my HD2 and running WinMO only on it. I would also continue to play with it. I love to get my nerd on and the HD2 is the perfect phone for tinkering. But, I don't know when that will be. Not losing my screen size or the build quality/hardware awesomeness and I haven't seen anything comparable yet.
I don't mind rebooting into Windows to transfer to my SD card, but I'm also fine with shutting it down and pulling the card out and using an adapter. I guess it would be easier if you could just do it through Android but this isn't an Android native phone and it seems acceptable to me.
In the beginning my leo was a worthless pos, somehow over time it has begun to operate much smoother. A few downloads from this and a few other sites have straightened out some flaws
Be careful posting "issues" with your leo, you'll find that some loose cannon members on forums become extremely unstable and will begin kung fu flaming you until you never want to see another smartphone ever again.
then tear into your mom.
kick your dog/cat
etc.
Lol. . . . Flaming I can take. . .
Well, a few ROM's later I seem to have my HD2 running even better.
The file transfer is weak but like stated above, it is what it is.
A stripped down ROM really seems to best way to go for running Android.
I was also having major battery issues and today I finally found out why. I was using HandCent SMS. What it did was, it would wake up the phone and stay stuck at a 60 mA draw.
Removed the app and installed GO SMS, which has less then 1/3rd of the features of HandCent, but it does not hang up my phone.
So, it is getting better with time.
As far as hardware the HD2 is only second to the HD7(which just looks amazing).
But, the software is what makes the HD7 a 4.3" display having paperweight.
What are you guys talking about ? You can transfer files while booted in Android even if it is in the SD card.. Pull out your SD card while Android is on and it will still work.. I can transfer files fine.. Just change the mode from charge to disk mode..
MarlinFF said:
What are you guys talking about ? You can transfer files while booted in Android even if it is in the SD card.. Pull out your SD card while Android is on and it will still work.. I can transfer files fine.. Just change the mode from charge to disk mode..
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I feel like a dumb ass. I didn't even notice the disk drive option. Thanks.
Is it safe to do since everything is installed on the card to copy to it while the OS is running? I assumed it didn't work and would not be a good idea. I didn't try to transfer anything, but it does work. I guess since the OS is actually running off the internal memory after you run Haret that it's cool. I just never really thought that much about it.
crisisinthecity said:
I feel like a dumb ass. I didn't even notice the disk drive option. Thanks.
Is it safe to do since everything is installed on the card to copy to it while the OS is running? I assumed it didn't work and would not be a good idea. I didn't try to transfer anything, but it does work. I guess since the OS is actually running off the internal memory after you run Haret that it's cool. I just never really thought that much about it.
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My HD2 runs great. I use Core Cell Evo v4.1 on the WinMo side and use Darkstone Froyo Sense v3.2 on the Android side...works great for me.
I transfer files quite a lot and no problems.
If you eject your sd card it will continue to work but, when you install sd card again most things won't work and, then will lock up (I tried that and I have to pull battery, then reboot).
I did notice if you leave it hooked to your PC (disk drive) and don't use the default ringtones, they will default to them in Disk Drive mode.
My HD2 runs so well using BlueTopia that it has replaced my G2 as my primary.device I carry two phones, 1 for work and 1 for personal use.
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I tried the initial NAND build upon release but had to go back to Winmo for the following reasons;
Higher battery drain than Duttys Family Rom
Led stuck on all the time after a message
No screen rotation
Crashing playing .wma files
Contacts listed by first name, no way to change it without editing it all.
Random freezes, slow to respond after standby, low volume in calls even after trying the speaker fix, g sensor would not calibrate.
All in all, enough to put me off. However, having gone back to winmo I can see that android is the way I want to go.
So, simple question; which build, if any, has the most of these issues fixed particularly battery drain and rotation? I am not bothered about getting 'under the hood' to tweak everything just a nice clean stable ROM with no fancy UI tweaks.
And I have searched on this for days but there are many, many opinions in hundreds of pages of comments. Thought I would ask here for the benefit of anyone else looking for a nice clean android build.
I have only tried the CM build (call me a fanboy), and it's really stable. I have noticed the 60mA battery drain still happens at times, but using Quick Reboot (free on market) one or sometimes multiple times fixes this without too much effort.
Speed, stability and features (well, the ones I use, didn't do a thorough test on everything) are all good.
I will no doubt slap my forehead for this but what is the CM build?
Has any build so far fixed the battery drain and sensor properly?
Cynagen mod =cm
I'm using MDJ's gingerbread its very stable and plenty of free space but no gps usb or camcorder apart from that smoorhest Android build I've ever used and one used most
i suggest NexusHD 1.9 NAND version, it's very stable, smooth and fast and i have no problem with it. just works well ;-)
Are these suggestions based just on personal preference or do they address those issues I had in the first post i.e battery drain, lack of rotation (G-Sensor problem I guess), LED stuck etc?
Appreciate your input all the same but I feel like reflashing Android today and want the best ROM...if those issues are fixed.
CM based or Nexus1. I think that until they are optimized, Sense are a no-go for Nand : too heavy, too big. You will be left with 50-40mo for apps and that includes apps2sd. Count on the double with CM and N1 Nand's. And in terms of battery life, G-sensor, they work perfectly.
The Led seems to give problem to most of the Nand for the moment...
Downloading the Nexus 1 rom now, I can live with the led if sensor and battery are better, especially as it is so easy to get back to winmo if needed.
I Know Ill Slap Myself Too For Asking Nooby Questions...but
Does it Matter What Radio i Use To Flash nand android as long as its above 2.08.whatever number ....i forgot....will it still work
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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Sync contacts with gmail then it stores them in the clouds
Try HD2ONE froyo cm 6.1.1 nand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It supports using your existing cm6 data.img on sd card. This alleviates the issue of low device storage.
This was rock solid as an sd build and better on nand.
I'll be sticking with this until gingerbread has all features working.
I've installed Android on NAND and am very impressed as everything seems visually better suited to the new format. I'm even happier now Copilot is working. However, I don't understand the signal bars properly. On WM I understand if I have 3G+ or at least a good signal. The signal bar in Android never looks particularly healthy although ironically as I type it is showing full bars with a 'G' beside it (I've just turned off wireless and the G appeared, this is presumably how data transfer is configured). Is there any reason why the signal might not be so good running Android instead of WM? Is there any way of improving the signal? Ultimately I need the thing to be a phone!
The Android I'm running is for Desire - whatever is linked to in the 'NAND for noobs' thread.
Trying flashing different radios. Search up our HD2 radio thread, and you'll see. Also, follow the requirements meant for your device to run android. Meaning don't flash a radio lower than 2.08 for EU HD2, for a TMOUS HD2, i'm not sure.
I used the latest (biggest number) radio before I put Android on - does flashing Android change the radio and in any case how do I find out what radio version I currently have?
Latest sure isn't always best when it comes to radios. You can check your radio in bootloader, or in android/settings/about phone, somewhere at the bottom
Flashing Android does not change your radio.
Stock Android uses 4 bars for signal while Sense ROMS use 6. I'm not sure how it equates between the ROMs but I can assure you there is no loss of signal.
First off, ignore the suggestions about updating your radio. You said that your signal appears weaker under Android than WM, so it's obviously not the radio as installing Android does not affect that.
All I can really say is that you may want to just ignore the signal bars and judge it by call quality. It may be that the build you are using is not reflecting the signal strength correctly. That's more likely than you actually having a weaker signal in a different OS since the OS has nothing to do with it!
Just see how you get on with it and if there is a problem then that's a different matter.
OK I don't seem to have any real issues with signal.
BUT (running Android NAND Desire Rom of some sort) after a few days a few problems:
1. The phone seems reluctant to charge in the car cradle if the charge level is low
2. Sometimes freezes in Copilot and needs battery removing to re start
3. Battery usage much more severe than WM
4. Lots of minor wobbles that I can't think of now I am typing.
The upshot is that I would now like a Desire HD but am thinking of going back to WM6.5 on the HD2 purely for reliability.
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OK I don't seem to have any real issues with signal.
BUT (running Android NAND Desire Rom of some sort) after a few days a few problems:
1. The phone seems reluctant to charge in the car cradle if the charge level is low
2. Sometimes freezes in Copilot and needs battery removing to re start
3. Battery usage much more severe than WM
4. Lots of minor wobbles that I can't think of now I am typing.
The upshot is that I would now like a Desire HD but am thinking of going back to WM6.5 on the HD2 purely for reliability.
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Well every build will have some minor hick up... Try different builds, there are plenty of build which have everything working and also the battery life is at par with win6.5
jalshah05 said:
Well every build will have some minor hick up... Try different builds, there are plenty of build which have everything working and also the battery life is at par with win6.5
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Can you point me to one? There are an overwhelming number available and I simply don't know how to judge one against the other
800jimbo said:
Can you point me to one? There are an overwhelming number available and I simply don't know how to judge one against the other
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777 is a good one... Try mdeejay's builds... they are good ones... There are also other good and better ones out there. But I like his better.
Also read this post:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929324
my signal bars go up and down all the time in droid