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[Q] IS Android developing finally working 100% in HD2?

I have been out of the scenery for a while. Is the Android development completed that is 100% working on the HD2?
I didnt want to install something that was not totally developed.
Is it running now?
although my phone is working just fine with Winmo.

Are you serious?
Did you even read before coming back into the 'scene'??

As of 29 August it is daily usable with these missing features/problems:
- No internal memory (NAND) boot yet.
- Auto Backlight (light sensor) is not working. (But fix is posted in git)
- There are frequent touchscreen freezes if phone is moving and autorotate is NOT disabled.
- Battery calibration might be problematic.
- PPP data is not stably working for everyone. (RMNET data is also slow beucase of mtu workaround)
- Some people still complain about some BT devices.
- Wifi hotspot not working yet. (It is made but not yet posted)
- USB tethering works with rmnet but not with ppp yet.
- Call volume/speakerphone volume may be lower than optimal.
- clrcad.exe in winmo is still required for sound in android.
- Background audio may affect call audio.
- Compass is off.
- Some people complainig about gps not locking, but is probably because of data not working properly.
I think all these are unimportant and current builds are daily usable with the workarounds. (autorotate=off most important)

Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.

engelsione said:
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
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because android on the hd2 while not 100% perfect, is better than most native devices.
not to mention that apps like
camera 360
snap photo pro
retro camera
wide arrange of sound boards
wide range of home replacements
DB meter
Spectrum anyliser
its a complelty new and so much more fun phone, that is no longer limited to closed software that costs a fortune.

engelsione said:
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
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I honestly don't believe winmo on HD2 is 100%...If we want to say 100% working, I would boldly say that winmo is NOT 100%...It works but still got it's own set of problems...I have problems left and right, even after switching roms...HTC touchflo not working properly, messaging glitches, constant reboot to remedy lockups...I just got fed up...Put on Android...Not everything works but the majority of it work and that's good enough...I only go back to WinMo for GPS (android got this working already) and transfering BIG file (movies, tv shows, etc)...
One thing for sure about Android is not experiencing lockups...I almost NEVER reboot android. In a week, Android is used 90% of the time and 10% on WinMO...This is just the opinion of a single person (ME) but I'm sure many felt the same way too.
So to recap, there's no such thing as PERFECT. WinMO on HD2 aint perfect and so does Android on HD2, but Android on the Galaxy S, Nexus One and Droid aint perfect either.....

No build is ever 100% perfect not even the iPhone in fact.
The Android is pretty much 90% (or less dependent on build) for me for everyday use. I enjoy mattc's Nexus One build a lot since I can dial down the 3G to EDGE in fact.
I am testing a lot of crazy builds but I prefer the Desire and Nexus One (the latter especially) the most for the builds. Using Dutty's ROM at the moment to see whether I get extended battery life.

veda_sticks said:
because android on the hd2 while not 100% perfect, is better than most native devices.
not to mention that apps like
camera 360
snap photo pro
retro camera
wide arrange of sound boards
wide range of home replacements
DB meter
Spectrum anyliser
its a complelty new and so much more fun phone, that is no longer limited to closed software that costs a fortune.
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This^
I've switched to Android 2.2 on my HD2, for one reason of the Marketplace. Apps for Android are just so much better.

memin1857 said:
As of 29 August it is daily usable with these missing features/problems:
- No internal memory (NAND) boot yet.
- Auto Backlight (light sensor) is not working. (But fix is posted in git)
- There are frequent touchscreen freezes if phone is moving and autorotate is NOT disabled.
- Battery calibration might be problematic.
- PPP data is not stably working for everyone. (RMNET data is also slow beucase of mtu workaround)
- Some people still complain about some BT devices.
- Wifi hotspot not working yet. (It is made but not yet posted)
- USB tethering works with rmnet but not with ppp yet.
- Call volume/speakerphone volume may be lower than optimal.
- clrcad.exe in winmo is still required for sound in android.
- Background audio may affect call audio.
- Compass is off.
- Some people complainig about gps not locking, but is probably because of data not working properly.
I think all these are unimportant and current builds are daily usable with the workarounds. (autorotate=off most important)
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Awesome summary, thanks.

my hd2 is still heating up like **** when using android, i hate that!
im not gonna use android fulltime as long this isnt fixed :/
and the touchscreen freezes are fking up everything too, disabling autorotate is a no go, cause i dont know another way to rotate the screen, and im only writing in landscape..

D4rkSoRRoW said:
my hd2 is still heating up like **** when using android, i hate that!
im not gonna use android fulltime as long this isnt fixed :/
and the touchscreen freezes are fking up everything too, disabling autorotate is a no go, cause i dont know another way to rotate the screen, and im only writing in landscape..
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this is fixed, if yoiu would just read the damn forums.
Install setcpu. sorted, the cpu is now scaled depending on how much processiong power is needed. it ramps down to 250mhz when screen is off or when not much is needed, and it scales upto 998mhz when it needs full power.
i run android 90% of the time now, it only gets hot when im charging (which is normal) or im running something processor intensive (which is also normal, same happens in winmo) leave it alone and it cools down

I can't wait until the HD2 boots the Android Rom natively and we can remove all traces of the archaic Windows Mobile.

veda_sticks said:
this is fixed, if yoiu would just read the damn forums.
Install setcpu. sorted, the cpu is now scaled depending on how much processiong power is needed. it ramps down to 250mhz when screen is off or when not much is needed, and it scales upto 998mhz when it needs full power.
i run android 90% of the time now, it only gets hot when im charging (which is normal) or im running something processor intensive (which is also normal, same happens in winmo) leave it alone and it cools down
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im sry, im reading the forums and even saw that with setcpu, but nobody told that it fixes the heating problem
ty, im trying now

Hi guys first post, so no flaming. (your found of flaming here !!)
I have been running Andriod on my hd2 for 2 weeks now, and it works prefectly, Super fast, battery us lasting around 18hrs, same as on stock rom. But the most important feature is that it saved my HD2 from the bin. It really is different beast and for the first time in six months I have enjoyed being a HD2 Owner.

It is working great
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

FroyoStone Sense - Version 3.1
i use this version without any problem everything working
and there is no touch freeze or anything
you can use it in your daily life

[Q] Continued support for dual booting?

ok, Ive been using both android and WM 6.5.3 and frankly i couldnt think of a better combo, Ive spent months try to decide which one to move too and in all cases neither one wins out overall, then it hit me, why do i need to have one OS!
Android does everything i need socially, and WM covers everything i need for work and roaming the mountains so Id love to keep both
I guess what im asking you developers given that progress getting android and NAND working is this, will there be continued support for having android running from SD
so over to you guys!

interesting point, but i think android running from SD is sufficiently well progressed that if there were no more releases it would not be a major problem.
There current builds a very good for day to day use.
I would like to see WM ruinning from SD on android devices, because like many here I have inversted alot of time with winmo and have many apps that can not be easy replaced on android.
And because there is very slim chance of there being annother winmo 6.5 device ionly see a future with my next phone being android, so it would be great to have the option to roll back to WM every once ina while to use that app that you cant get anywhere else.

that is a good point, i hadnt considered that option but makes perfect sence as well, like yourself i have many much needed WM apps whichwill never exist on android so that option would equally be valid, my only issue would be i couldnt test this out for any length of time as i do need WM apps almost daily, after hours and out of work its always android running

is there anyway to dualboot android from nand? people dualboot windows and linux on a pc without needing to use a live cd every time. i don't know the specifics, but personally, i'd love to dualboot windows and android both from nand. while i just about always use android, there are times when i need winmo (few, but they do exist). that said, i'm still keen toward the benefits of having android running from nand (better battery life, no need to boot into winmo to transfer files, etc.)

I think NAND installation should be more important when an actual build will behave like it does on an Android native phone. HD2 with Android still can't record video at 720p and it still have occasional problems with camera flash. Sometimes 3G connection disconnects. When we will have a 110% working Android build for HD2 we should seriously think about flashing Android to HD2 NAND.

[Q] Android on NAND or SD - is it worth it?

Hello guys....and girls if any
i'm a bit of a noob, managed to get Android working from SD but thinking of putting it on NAND. My question(s) to you guys:
IS IT WORTH IT?
is the battery life - any better or at least equal to winmo?, functionality wise, is it 100% working?
Is having 2 OSs more versatile, is it worth getting rid of winmo and its apps?
Awaiting replies from members that have Android NAND for a while and can give a full view
I apologize if this question has been asked before...i looked...couldn't see a thread like this.
Thanks

Only recently did I switch to android on my HD2. I used WinMo Stock Rom before, but I had a lot of problems with Windows, I wasn't happy about the general UI and the lack of "modern" applications.
So 2 or 3 weeks ago I decided to switch to Android NAND. Here are some of the points witch made me use NAND instead of SD.
1st: Space. I only have a 2 GB SD, so a SD Rom would've taken 'all' or most of my SD Card Space.
Installing it on the ROM saved me a lot of Bytes. ^^
2nd: No trouble with 2 OSs. As I thought that WinMo was useless anyway, I thought it to be stupid to still have it and let it consume space. I thought, NAND can't run worse as WinMo did for me, so why keeping it as fallback ROM. Also, I have an old phone (Sony C905) to fall back when flashing ROMs or if any problem would occur. (Just to mention it, I did not have any problems at all really)
These where my main points to use a NAND ROM (I am using this one here by gpc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909096 )
After having used a NAND Rom for a couple of weeks now, I made the experience that these ROMs run very smoothly. Everything works for me, the sync between Google and Android is awesome. I followed the instructions of the cooks and did not have any problems with GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, ... everything is working fine (exept stock tethering - but that can be easily achieved by 3rd-party apps). My Problem is, that I flash relatively often and I do not use any kind of backup so I have to reinstall all my apps. But the 200+ MB which the ROM leaves free from internal memory enable me to install a lot of apps and the market helps me to easily reinstall all of them after a flash.
Overall, Android Gingerbread is more stable (as to your question: I'd say it is working to 95%, and the 5% missing being non-essential, or can be achieved by 3rd-party-apps), has more functions, and drains less battery than WinMo6.5 - in my own personal oppinion... and it only took me half an hour to get my device from Win to Android. So I still do not see the point in leaving WinMo on the device and use up space of your SD Card.
But you should ask yourself, what do you need from WinMo, what do you need from WinMo what it can not do, and what can an Android-ROM do for you. And if you find for yourself that a NAND Android can do everything you need from your OS (or even more), than where is the point in still using an outdated OS?
I hope I could help.
PS: There are a lot of votings here on XDA and as far as my memory goes most of them voted for NAND-based roms... so I don't think that I am alone with my oppinion.
EDIT: BIG WARNING Thou': I should read all posts (especially sticky-ones) carefully to see, if you have the right Radio, and so on! a NAND-Rom _does_ have some kind of risk installing, and I don't want to be held responcible for bricking your phone. I am just telling you my personal experience as a User (I am neighter a developer nor have I ever flashed a phone in my life before), but I know, that there are some Users which did encounter problems. It's your decision in the end, I guess.
-felt like adding a disclaimer-

It depends if you still want winmo or not. Battery life is about the same as SD for me, overall performance is about the same as SD builds, but there are some bonuses with nand, like you can change sd cards, use recovery, couple other small things. If you don't use winmo anymore and don't want it, might as well put android to nand. You have to decide if losing winmo is worth it. Personally I use SD android because I have WP7 on NAND. I used NAND android for a while, and when I went back to SD android, I didn't really notice any difference. SD android is good enough for me and I think being able to have 2 OS's on my phone is much more important and is what makes the HD2 unique and special. If I just wanted android, I would have gotten a native android phone. When you put android on nand, it makes it just like any other android phone and there's nothing it can do that many other phones can't, but when dualbooting you're phone can do things that no other phone can do. And I use WP7 just as much as I use android now, so it's great having both OS's on the same phone.

I was pretty happy with WM+Sense on Stock T-Mobile HD2. And I'm expert-user of WM. But with so many apps for Android and so few NEW apps for WM - it is hard to resist. So I moved to Android SD-mode.
At that point I liked everything except battery life. And GPS Fix was slow. I tries few SD ROMs ... liked them all, not much difference for me. To fight battery drain I moved to NAND.
Speed-wise I do not see any difference between NAND and SD. My battery life is better with NAND. But then again ... may be ROMs get improved, may be I got more experience with how to manage things battery-wise. Got my slow GPS Fix resolved, but I'm sure it would work on SD-mode too.
I would almost all equivalent apps for Android to replace my favorite WM apps.
Bottom line is (for me).
1. Battery is still BETTER with WM. I have to charge every day with Android, with WM I could go 1.5 days, sometimes even 2. But then again ... Android is more into "cloud".
2. Booting into NAND directly is not much faster than WM+Android SD.
3. There is NO navigation with TTS+reliable map/poi source on Android which can be compared to properly skinned Primo 1.1 and that is my ONLY big complain.
4. Overall user experience with Android is better. For me at least. And it crashes much-much-much less than WM. Surprise !
Overall I'm happy with my WM->Android move and I'm not going back. But hey, I was happy on WM too

[Poll] When was the last time you used wm6

Now that we have CWM Recovery and NAND Android our HD2's are like a native android besides the fact that there is a windows button on it. So, when was the last time you used wm6? Personally for me its been a month

I had 6.1 on my Kaiser (AT&T Tilt) until last night lol. Only ever used it to transfer files from my pc to my HD2's sd card, cause my HD2's usb port is busted. I figured flashing Android to the Kaiser would result in faster file transfer, since it'd be acting as a usb device, bypassing activesync. Went to the trouble of flashing Android on it only to find out usb doesn't work in Android on the Kaiser. Back to WM i guess.
So I suppose I use WM still, kinda.
Sorry for writing a bit of a novel, I'm a little buzzed right now lol.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

It has been more than 6 months, i still remember those painful ways to search the internet for .cab files..thank god we have android now on our beloved hd2..

I am still using it, dual boot with SD Android....

Since 1 day after my ht2 was arrived i'm using android, first dual boot in sd and then in nand
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I still using wm6 inevitably, because l have problem with GPS & Battery drain in android.

The sd versions of android were to buggy for me...so i stayed with wm6.5 and CHT until the release of magldr. Since then I'm a happy HD2 Android user...and I Don't want to miss it anymore - wm6.5 is nothing compared to android in my opinion and I can't understand how people can longer stay with a more or less outdated wm6.5
hamidnz2 said:
I still using wm6 inevitably, because l have problem with GPS & Battery drain in android.
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GPS is not working fine as in wm, cause of the lack of AGPS support. But it's ok for me if I get a lock in 1-2 minutes...my navigon is not really faster with booting, loading pois and finally searching for gps sats - it took even longer.
Can't confirm really battery drainage, generally it's a bad installation or missusage...

Last time I had WM on this phone is about 8 months ago. Works so much better with Android.
Sorry, I have to say last time I used WM is 8 months ago. But I flashed NAND the day it came out.

I use WM, Android and WP. Switching when I got bored.
It is good that every OS support Sync with Googleaccount. So it only takes an hour to have everything set up.

Just today, and yesterday, and the day before..
believe it or not, WinMo is still my everyday OS! Android works fine for me in general, but with power management on WinMo, and most of my irreplaceable apps on it, I still use it, and will do so until some similar apps are availabe for android.

j4n87 said:
The sd versions of android were to buggy for me...so i stayed with wm6.5 and CHT until the release of magldr. Since then I'm a happy HD2 Android user...and I Don't want to miss it anymore - wm6.5 is nothing compared to android in my opinion and I can't understand how people can longer stay with a more or less outdated wm6.5
GPS is not working fine as in wm, cause of the lack of AGPS support. But it's ok for me if I get a lock in 1-2 minutes...my navigon is not really faster with booting, loading pois and finally searching for gps sats - it took even longer.
Can't confirm really battery drainage, generally it's a bad installation or missusage...
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I just think that you might not yet find the right SD Android
I have been using SD Android lately (2 months). (Before, I used NANDROID).
In fact I dont have problem with SD Android (MCCM GB v.3.0)
This version is very stable. I rarely go back to Winmo.
cheers

[Q] HTC HD2 Newbie in the UK - What do you suggest?

Well sort of. Had the phone for about 15 months now, and at the pub the other day, a friend of a friend sees my phone and says "visit xda-developers.com" and find out what you can do with your phone.
Currently - Phone stock standard with UK Voda, been updated once running WM 6.5. (simply to get a longer battery life - voda uk arent too proactive at updates)
I use the phone as
1. A phone (calls/texts etc) and a wireless router for a laptop (when out of the office and no internet connection)
2. Sync with my outlook on pc (W7/ outlook 2010) (to keep recent emails on record for work)
3. Retrieve emails (work account and hotmail) on the move. Guess its important to have office software and some PDF software.
4. Web Browsing (Opera)
5. Camera and Camcorder
6. Occasional Facebook uploads of photos (re: new years eve drunken photos)
7. Sometimes access messenger (live) msn
8. I have a Skype account (not ever used it on the phone)
9. Occasionally run the odd game or you tube to waste time
10. Have never bothered to put music on the phone, but would be good when I run once a week to listen to some decent tunes or radio.
I have briefly looked around the site (well done) and see a multitude of options for things I never really knew I could do on the phone. (For reference I had one of the old PSP 1.5v which I continually played around with to update (flash rom) to use homebrew applications - so can follow instructions quite well)
So here are my questions...
In an ideal world, what would you suggest would be the best course of action for the phone and why? I guess this should cover os/radio/software etc. I have no preferences.
Any issues to consider with Voda UK? - (this is my phone with a company sim, and its out of warranty)
I have looked around for a thread similar to this, as I wouldn't have posted if there was one. If there is one, please point me to it.
Wifey has an Iphone (dont ask) so I wouldnt mind having an all singing all dancing HTC HD2 to dazzle any Iphone owners with its brilliance.
Oh, and I am all for donating beer monies for those that can give me the best answers I seek
Cheers

I have gone down the dual boot windows Phone 7 and Sd Android route. There is a good video tutorial by 96Edwy.
I dont think your Mrs will be impressed by you spending hours on the computer/phone when you could be doing something useful!
I have found that no matter what you do with this brilliant phone, iphone users will still think theirs is the best.
Still, that said, its all good fun innit

well i think you should try out android.
all the points you mentioned are covered by the os so you can do everything you want.
the difference to wm 6.5 is the much greater number of software that is available.
i really liked wm 6.5.5 on my hd2 with sense but since i am using android i'm really happy with my phone. just because developement on android goes on.
and it's running so smooth on the hd2 and everything works.
you should make a full backup of your wm6.5 rom with spb backup or something like that and just try it out.
windows phone is also great but i think the lack of a good display driver for multitouch is more noticable on windows phone than on android.
but just try it out and decide on your own. if you flashed everything one time it's really fast and you can try everything in one day.

I think it is a must to at least try dual booting Windows Phone 7 and Android. I am currently running Windows Phone 7 (NoDo update) and Android (AOSP CM7 - AmericanAndroid) and I LOVE it. You can get the power and customizability of CM7 at any time, and at the press (or a few presses) of a button you can go back to the smooth, elegant, sleek interface of Windows Phone 7 if you want simplicity and a more robust/unique UI. I never find battery life to be too draining on the SD Android, and there are tweaks to get it respectable on Windows Phone 7. And, this is of course all with the amazing MAGLDR, which allows us to dual boot this. I even have a couple other builds (MIUI and/or Sense) of Android I will switch to sometimes with just a few extra button presses in MAGLDR. So, I guess you could say I'm tri-booting even. Moral of the story, you can do so much more when you dual boot. The only thing I am missing out on Android being on SD (that I know of) is Clockworkmod recovery, which isn't as necessary since you can drag and drop from your SD card to back up system and data images. Well, I've rambled far too long and hope this helps you. Good luck!

I'd suggest you read this guide to get started. It'll help you understand all the terms and what nots in this HD2 world.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
And as they say above, if you want an experience, go for dual booting. Though you need to find yourself two sd cards and be carrying them. xD

Kailkti said:
I'd suggest you read this guide to get started. It'll help you understand all the terms and what nots in this HD2 world.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
And as they say above, if you want an experience, go for dual booting. Though you need to find yourself two sd cards and be carrying them. xD
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there's no need for two cards just the right partitioning.

I suggest you to use the phone as is on Windows Mobile 6.5 till you get used to it. The HD2 is awesome even on the Windows Mobile. Next when you feel you need to do more, you need more updated apps, and more functionality on the HD2, you can switch to Android, which is available in various flavors- Sense & Stock. You will have the options to chose a ROM which would give what you need, and there will always be updates to the OS, to the apps it uses and also the functionality enhancement.
If Windows Phone 7 gets more apps and developers produce something good, you'll have additional choice here. WP7 is really slick on HD2, just the lack of apps and several bugs, specifically related to battery, etc.
Concerning outshining the iPhone, you have got wonderful widgets to outdo the iPhone Springboard. Similar apps are also available on the Android Market. Moreover you will have extra functionality like Bluetooth transfer between any devices, use of your phone as storage (pen) drive, for tethering (USB & WiFi) on laptop, transfering music, data or other content from any PC, no iTunes.

As mentioned above, you do not need 2 SD cards. I have my 16GB partitioned where Android gets ~8GB and WP7 gets ~8GB. Also, Hamsn, I believe the OP is already at this point, seeing from his first post that he's had it for 15 months and is now looking for suggestions on where to go from WM6.5. Either way, OP, I think you will be pleasantly surprised regardless of which route you take. There are so many options for the HD2 that it really is like a computer in your pocket. Just how you can load pretty much any OS on a laptop without big corporations locking it down, that's how the HD2 is (and how every smart phone should be!). This is off topic, but on that note, I suggest every HD2 owner go "like" the HTC page on Facebook and leave a post telling them how they better revise their new bootloader policy (with the locked EVO 3D, etc.) or we will never buy HTC again. We will never have a worthy successor to the HD2 if they keep this up.

Spot on drewden123. I am looking for something different than 6.5 (as been on this almost 17 months now). I think I will go down the dual boot route, (WP7 and Android) just getting myself a larger micro SD card to handle it. (as noted I will follow the partition instructions using a 16gb card)
I already know that WP7 will probably do my nut if it causes battery issues (this is the only bad thing I have to say about the whole phone since I had it), but I wont know until I try it.
I guess I will finally end back on a likely 6.5 /Android dual boot.
Just wanted to know if people thought I should not even try WP7 considering the need for activation being a slight pain vs what WP7 actually delivers on this phone.
Thanks for all input so far.

i just tried it for some time without activating and sideloaded some apps. just to see how i like it. but then i went back to android on nand without dual boot to be able to use cwm recovery.
i would suggest you doing the same and if you like wp7 you can activate and install dual boot. but if you don't know if you will like it you shouldn't do the whole work with partitioning sd, activating and everything.
i went back because the multitouch on wp was much worse than on android and the battery drain was just too high. also i was not able to get an activation code.

Foxmanuk said:
Well sort of. Had the phone for about 15 months now, and at the pub the other day, a friend of a friend sees my phone and says "visit xda-developers.com" and find out what you can do with your phone.
Currently - Phone stock standard with UK Voda, been updated once running WM 6.5. (simply to get a longer battery life - voda uk arent too proactive at updates)
I use the phone as
1. A phone (calls/texts etc) and a wireless router for a laptop (when out of the office and no internet connection)
2. Sync with my outlook on pc (W7/ outlook 2010) (to keep recent emails on record for work)
3. Retrieve emails (work account and hotmail) on the move. Guess its important to have office software and some PDF software.
4. Web Browsing (Opera)
5. Camera and Camcorder
6. Occasional Facebook uploads of photos (re: new years eve drunken photos)
7. Sometimes access messenger (live) msn
8. I have a Skype account (not ever used it on the phone)
9. Occasionally run the odd game or you tube to waste time
10. Have never bothered to put music on the phone, but would be good when I run once a week to listen to some decent tunes or radio.
I have briefly looked around the site (well done) and see a multitude of options for things I never really knew I could do on the phone. (For reference I had one of the old PSP 1.5v which I continually played around with to update (flash rom) to use homebrew applications - so can follow instructions quite well)
So here are my questions...
In an ideal world, what would you suggest would be the best course of action for the phone and why? I guess this should cover os/radio/software etc. I have no preferences.
Any issues to consider with Voda UK? - (this is my phone with a company sim, and its out of warranty)
I have looked around for a thread similar to this, as I wouldn't have posted if there was one. If there is one, please point me to it.
Wifey has an Iphone (dont ask) so I wouldnt mind having an all singing all dancing HTC HD2 to dazzle any Iphone owners with its brilliance.
Oh, and I am all for donating beer monies for those that can give me the best answers I seek
Cheers
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New knowledge to me. Thank you ... (sorry... should hit the thanks button...)

Foxmanuk said:
Spot on drewden123. I am looking for something different than 6.5 (as been on this almost 17 months now). I think I will go down the dual boot route, (WP7 and Android) just getting myself a larger micro SD card to handle it. (as noted I will follow the partition instructions using a 16gb card)
I already know that WP7 will probably do my nut if it causes battery issues (this is the only bad thing I have to say about the whole phone since I had it), but I wont know until I try it.
I guess I will finally end back on a likely 6.5 /Android dual boot.
Just wanted to know if people thought I should not even try WP7 considering the need for activation being a slight pain vs what WP7 actually delivers on this phone.
Thanks for all input so far.
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Well, fwiw I do not have that much of a battery drain on WP7, and most ROMs have a bug/fix where if you go into camera, switch it to camcorder, then switch back the battery drain is fixed. Also, activation is a breeze if you do it over MS chat (say you're from US though, I think). The good thing about having the dual boot is that WP7 is only going to improve and get more modern from here. If you dual boot with WM6.5 the OS gets more and more stagnant and outdated. We should be getting Mango sometime in the coming months and I think DFT will have a way where you can actually update your phone directly from Zune like it's an HD7. And, of course, you can always keep a nice CM7 or MIUI for your Android boot option. Maybe I'm just so dazzled by having both the awesome UI of WP7 and the power of CM7 that I think it's the best way to go, but it all comes down to personal preference. If you need the features of WM6.5 go for it. But, WP7, like I said, is just getting better and better, and the only difference from NAND Android and SD is that you don't get clockworkmod. With WP7 and Android you can basically have an HD7 and an EVO in one device.

Thanks for all the help on this thread. I have successfully dual booted WP7 and SD Android on first attempt.
For fellow newbies out there, read, read, read, and then take things slow.
I made sure I knew as much as I could and things went through easily.
WP7 was a 3 min job over MS chat. All working well.
Just getting used to both OS. Think I will use WP7 at work, and Android later in the day. I will post back about practicalities of having both as dual boot options.
I can see already there are a few things I need to get used to on both OS.