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Let's face it: HD2 has many problems.

No need to hide. This phone has many problems, still many people seems to ignore them completely. No need to start the "It's your phone, it's strange, I use it a lot and it never happens" saga. The problems are there. And for everyone. The fact you don't notice some bad behaviours doesn't mean the phone is perfect or that your baby is exempt from problems. Let's start:
1) Suboptimal WI-FI performance. On a 802.11g wireless network, connected to an 8Mbps internet connection, the phone can't even saturate the badwidth of the network. Speedtest.net reports an approximate 2Mbps download capacity (EDIT for those who cannot distinguish: 2 megabits, not megabytes). Test it yourself: try to download something from a fast website and try to figure out which is your maximum download transfer speed. You will be disappointed. As a comparative, this means the phone can use 1/4 of the available bandwidth. A SonyEricsson Satio can fully use the available bandwidth, instead (someone told me "tell me a phone that can do it. Now you have one).
2) Stanby freeze: it's there. The phone freezes randomly while in stanby draining all your battery juice. Sometimes happens rarely, sometimes happens frequently.
3) Poor memory space handling: after just 20 days of use from a fresh ROM update, my free memory space on ROM is just 36MB. Without installing big things or hacking anything. Sure, there are fixes produced by the community, log cleaners, temp files deletion utilities, etc. etc. Still, it's a quite a disappointement: it means this phone can't work properly in a "factory state" for much time.
4) "Always on" features: nice, apart the fact in random periods of time the services just stop to download data. The Twitter client doesn't work well. Sometimes you can hear a tweet sound, sometimes it downloads data without the sound, sometimes it downloads nothing until reboot.
5) Poor stability in general: the OS crashes frequently. Less frequently than the first shipped rom. Still it's not very stable.
6) Poor support in general with the updates: finally the SMS stuck problem has been fixed but they spent 3 months for it without a valid solution. The camera fix doesn't hide the fact the sensor is defective.
I don't say this to start a flame, of course, but only because I'm frustrated with these problems. And people, instead of spreading words about them, just pump the hype, including some notorious web sites that have no scope but pushing the hype even further. But the truth is another: this phone doesn't work as expected.

I honestly do not have the problems you're describing..
Your "truth" is very different from mine, but ne1 is allowed to have no

Can't comment on all those, but i hear you, defo had some of them and i'm on my 2nd unit after 2 weeks.
With Nokia it took them at least 6 months to iron out the flaws in their released phones, defo the case with N95 & N96, i didn't expect it to be the case on this phone.
SMS fix? is it? or only in 1.66, because the hotfix's don't work on the 1.44 ROM
I would like to add the Audiobooster problem to that list

well, I don't pretend mine is perfect but there are more things to love than to hate about it. regarding the problems, I think you cannot generalize because I've never experienced some of your issues but I'm bothered by other myself. finally I guess it's just a subjective call anyway...

I had some of your problems when my HD2 was on the original 1.48 WWE Hong Kong ROM. However, since I flashed HSPL, Merlion LEO V1.90 ROM and Radio version 2.07.50.27_2, it's been faster and absolutely stable. No more freezing/"Sleep of Death"/etc...

jonbaker76 said:
I would like to add the Audiobooster problem to that list
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That one really annoys me too. Still can't find a way to get video and audio in sync without manually adjusting the offset whilst encoding. And HTC still can't get the hang of getting Audiomanager to handle AAC files properly (ie sort albums in track order, or show.their album art). Still, it's a lot quicker than my Touch Pro was ; )

Yeap! I'm very happy that I could be refunded. Too many bugs for such a device.

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If you want something that works out the box, get an iPhone

I have none of your issues and i can prove it with tests and videos.
I wish i had an "unlike" button to use it here. You are frustrated because either you don't know how to work with this phone or you have some bad software or even a bad phone. Replace it!
You are emitting false statements here!
PS: I have the phone for 2 months.

I'd love to see a phone or device that was perfect.
Every piece of hardware has its own problems.

I've been waiting for so long for someone to start a thread entitled as "Let's face it: HD2 has many problems". Eagerly watching this thread for some positive and negative input.
All in all, HTC Sense is at it infant stage. This "is" the culprit. Perhaps by end of this year, we will worship it someday...
To the developer/creator of HTC Sense, please use your common "sense" when trying to convince people to buy your idea. The first major mistake was SMS failure. Totally non-Sense.

1. have to say the WiFi (at work) is slow (2.2Mbps) but speedtest.net is SO unreliable I'll hold off commenting until I try at home tonight on my O2 LLU connection.
2. never had it
3. doesn't happen to me, currently got 107MB free of storage and 266MB of program memory free
4. other than Twitter client being a bit crap it's fine
5. mine doesn't crash
6. updates are fine but I've not had any of the issues others have had in the first place, less so now running a custom ROM

Return your phone and get an iphone/android device.
This kind of issues, even if I haven't myself had most of those you list, have been around with EVERY WM phone that has been made.
Of course WM is far from perfect, but as someone already said to me the advantages far outweigh them, and I can live with them and the need for tweaking.
1) Wifi speed, show me one phone that can transfer at full G speed. The processing power/memory bandwidth/flash memors speed can't handle that.
It also depends a LOT of the software used.
I do get 1-1.5MB/s (8-12Mbps) transfer on wifi between the HD2 and one of my home computers, with WiFi remote access, and on balanced wifi performance. With Resco explorer, I get 150kB/s...
2) Never had one.
3) Depends... could be just normal, now that the album and browser caches have reached their limits, and would stop there. Stock ROM has a lot of useless stuff on it.
etc...

dgtel2 said:
To the developer/creator of HTC Sense, please use your common "sense" when trying to convince people to buy your idea. The first major mistake was SMS failure. Totally non-Sense.
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Sense is fine, but the vanilla Win6.5 fails hard.
And if this thread gets to about page 5, it would probably just turn into another Leo vs iPhone flame war.

For the WiFi "problem": ~ 2 MByte /s is just the normal average speed, even with my laptop I won't get much more on 802.11g .. It also depends on with how many other devices you share your WiFi-channel.

btyeh said:
Sense is fine, but the manilla Win6.5 fails hard.
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What is manila win6.5?!?! Do you even know what manila is? manila = sense!!!

I think there are a lot of 'duff' units, this must be the case with the 'sleep of death' and the crackley call as many of had it but most don't.
I took mine back, got a new one yesterday, no crackles no sleep of death... yet
But true, there are always gonna be problems, it will take months before a near perfect firmware, sorry, rom is out

Thank god for my HTC HD2. No problem here beside the screen shaking. But I hardly notice it.

kilrah said:
1) Wifi speed, show me one phone that can transfer at full G speed. The processing power/memory bandwidth/flash memors speed can't handle that.
It also depends a LOT of the software used.
I do get 1-1.5MB/s (8-12Mbps) transfer on wifi between the HD2 and one of my home computers, with WiFi remote access, and on balanced wifi performance. With Resco explorer, I get 150kB/s...
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SonyEricsson Satio, for example. I download at 900Kb/s with it on the same network (using the same browser, Opera Mobile 10 Beta 3). Poor implementations doesn't mean it's not possible. Do we need 4Ghz quad core processors to use a wireless g network? Obviously not.
3) Depends... could be just normal, now that the album and browser caches have reached their limits, and would stop there. Stock ROM has a lot of useless stuff on it.
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A bad behaviour, even when happens at factory settings is still a bad behaviour. You have a strange definition of "normal". Surely a phone that in 20 days saturate all the available space on the rom cannot be considered "normal". It's a poor implementation of things. A good implementation would have addressed it from the start by allowing the user WHERE to store that files or giving him an option to clear that files without an hard reset. No, it's not normal. Software design it's a much more complicated thing than those "normal" things.

You know you have problems when your best programs are Hd2tweaks, Bsbtweaks and Resco registry editor. And you are continually wiping out your system and trying new roms. Although Xannytech evolution was a good one.

[Q] IS Android developing finally working 100% in HD2?

I have been out of the scenery for a while. Is the Android development completed that is 100% working on the HD2?
I didnt want to install something that was not totally developed.
Is it running now?
although my phone is working just fine with Winmo.

Are you serious?
Did you even read before coming back into the 'scene'??

As of 29 August it is daily usable with these missing features/problems:
- No internal memory (NAND) boot yet.
- Auto Backlight (light sensor) is not working. (But fix is posted in git)
- There are frequent touchscreen freezes if phone is moving and autorotate is NOT disabled.
- Battery calibration might be problematic.
- PPP data is not stably working for everyone. (RMNET data is also slow beucase of mtu workaround)
- Some people still complain about some BT devices.
- Wifi hotspot not working yet. (It is made but not yet posted)
- USB tethering works with rmnet but not with ppp yet.
- Call volume/speakerphone volume may be lower than optimal.
- clrcad.exe in winmo is still required for sound in android.
- Background audio may affect call audio.
- Compass is off.
- Some people complainig about gps not locking, but is probably because of data not working properly.
I think all these are unimportant and current builds are daily usable with the workarounds. (autorotate=off most important)

Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.

engelsione said:
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
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because android on the hd2 while not 100% perfect, is better than most native devices.
not to mention that apps like
camera 360
snap photo pro
retro camera
wide arrange of sound boards
wide range of home replacements
DB meter
Spectrum anyliser
its a complelty new and so much more fun phone, that is no longer limited to closed software that costs a fortune.

engelsione said:
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
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I honestly don't believe winmo on HD2 is 100%...If we want to say 100% working, I would boldly say that winmo is NOT 100%...It works but still got it's own set of problems...I have problems left and right, even after switching roms...HTC touchflo not working properly, messaging glitches, constant reboot to remedy lockups...I just got fed up...Put on Android...Not everything works but the majority of it work and that's good enough...I only go back to WinMo for GPS (android got this working already) and transfering BIG file (movies, tv shows, etc)...
One thing for sure about Android is not experiencing lockups...I almost NEVER reboot android. In a week, Android is used 90% of the time and 10% on WinMO...This is just the opinion of a single person (ME) but I'm sure many felt the same way too.
So to recap, there's no such thing as PERFECT. WinMO on HD2 aint perfect and so does Android on HD2, but Android on the Galaxy S, Nexus One and Droid aint perfect either.....

No build is ever 100% perfect not even the iPhone in fact.
The Android is pretty much 90% (or less dependent on build) for me for everyday use. I enjoy mattc's Nexus One build a lot since I can dial down the 3G to EDGE in fact.
I am testing a lot of crazy builds but I prefer the Desire and Nexus One (the latter especially) the most for the builds. Using Dutty's ROM at the moment to see whether I get extended battery life.

veda_sticks said:
because android on the hd2 while not 100% perfect, is better than most native devices.
not to mention that apps like
camera 360
snap photo pro
retro camera
wide arrange of sound boards
wide range of home replacements
DB meter
Spectrum anyliser
its a complelty new and so much more fun phone, that is no longer limited to closed software that costs a fortune.
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This^
I've switched to Android 2.2 on my HD2, for one reason of the Marketplace. Apps for Android are just so much better.

memin1857 said:
As of 29 August it is daily usable with these missing features/problems:
- No internal memory (NAND) boot yet.
- Auto Backlight (light sensor) is not working. (But fix is posted in git)
- There are frequent touchscreen freezes if phone is moving and autorotate is NOT disabled.
- Battery calibration might be problematic.
- PPP data is not stably working for everyone. (RMNET data is also slow beucase of mtu workaround)
- Some people still complain about some BT devices.
- Wifi hotspot not working yet. (It is made but not yet posted)
- USB tethering works with rmnet but not with ppp yet.
- Call volume/speakerphone volume may be lower than optimal.
- clrcad.exe in winmo is still required for sound in android.
- Background audio may affect call audio.
- Compass is off.
- Some people complainig about gps not locking, but is probably because of data not working properly.
I think all these are unimportant and current builds are daily usable with the workarounds. (autorotate=off most important)
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Awesome summary, thanks.

my hd2 is still heating up like **** when using android, i hate that!
im not gonna use android fulltime as long this isnt fixed :/
and the touchscreen freezes are fking up everything too, disabling autorotate is a no go, cause i dont know another way to rotate the screen, and im only writing in landscape..

D4rkSoRRoW said:
my hd2 is still heating up like **** when using android, i hate that!
im not gonna use android fulltime as long this isnt fixed :/
and the touchscreen freezes are fking up everything too, disabling autorotate is a no go, cause i dont know another way to rotate the screen, and im only writing in landscape..
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this is fixed, if yoiu would just read the damn forums.
Install setcpu. sorted, the cpu is now scaled depending on how much processiong power is needed. it ramps down to 250mhz when screen is off or when not much is needed, and it scales upto 998mhz when it needs full power.
i run android 90% of the time now, it only gets hot when im charging (which is normal) or im running something processor intensive (which is also normal, same happens in winmo) leave it alone and it cools down

I can't wait until the HD2 boots the Android Rom natively and we can remove all traces of the archaic Windows Mobile.

veda_sticks said:
this is fixed, if yoiu would just read the damn forums.
Install setcpu. sorted, the cpu is now scaled depending on how much processiong power is needed. it ramps down to 250mhz when screen is off or when not much is needed, and it scales upto 998mhz when it needs full power.
i run android 90% of the time now, it only gets hot when im charging (which is normal) or im running something processor intensive (which is also normal, same happens in winmo) leave it alone and it cools down
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im sry, im reading the forums and even saw that with setcpu, but nobody told that it fixes the heating problem
ty, im trying now

Hi guys first post, so no flaming. (your found of flaming here !!)
I have been running Andriod on my hd2 for 2 weeks now, and it works prefectly, Super fast, battery us lasting around 18hrs, same as on stock rom. But the most important feature is that it saved my HD2 from the bin. It really is different beast and for the first time in six months I have enjoyed being a HD2 Owner.

It is working great
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

FroyoStone Sense - Version 3.1
i use this version without any problem everything working
and there is no touch freeze or anything
you can use it in your daily life

[Q] Most stable NAND build?

I tried the initial NAND build upon release but had to go back to Winmo for the following reasons;
Higher battery drain than Duttys Family Rom
Led stuck on all the time after a message
No screen rotation
Crashing playing .wma files
Contacts listed by first name, no way to change it without editing it all.
Random freezes, slow to respond after standby, low volume in calls even after trying the speaker fix, g sensor would not calibrate.
All in all, enough to put me off. However, having gone back to winmo I can see that android is the way I want to go.
So, simple question; which build, if any, has the most of these issues fixed particularly battery drain and rotation? I am not bothered about getting 'under the hood' to tweak everything just a nice clean stable ROM with no fancy UI tweaks.
And I have searched on this for days but there are many, many opinions in hundreds of pages of comments. Thought I would ask here for the benefit of anyone else looking for a nice clean android build.

I have only tried the CM build (call me a fanboy), and it's really stable. I have noticed the 60mA battery drain still happens at times, but using Quick Reboot (free on market) one or sometimes multiple times fixes this without too much effort.
Speed, stability and features (well, the ones I use, didn't do a thorough test on everything) are all good.

I will no doubt slap my forehead for this but what is the CM build?
Has any build so far fixed the battery drain and sensor properly?

Cynagen mod =cm
I'm using MDJ's gingerbread its very stable and plenty of free space but no gps usb or camcorder apart from that smoorhest Android build I've ever used and one used most

i suggest NexusHD 1.9 NAND version, it's very stable, smooth and fast and i have no problem with it. just works well ;-)

Are these suggestions based just on personal preference or do they address those issues I had in the first post i.e battery drain, lack of rotation (G-Sensor problem I guess), LED stuck etc?
Appreciate your input all the same but I feel like reflashing Android today and want the best ROM...if those issues are fixed.

CM based or Nexus1. I think that until they are optimized, Sense are a no-go for Nand : too heavy, too big. You will be left with 50-40mo for apps and that includes apps2sd. Count on the double with CM and N1 Nand's. And in terms of battery life, G-sensor, they work perfectly.
The Led seems to give problem to most of the Nand for the moment...

Downloading the Nexus 1 rom now, I can live with the led if sensor and battery are better, especially as it is so easy to get back to winmo if needed.

I Know Ill Slap Myself Too For Asking Nooby Questions...but
Does it Matter What Radio i Use To Flash nand android as long as its above 2.08.whatever number ....i forgot....will it still work

I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.

splinters69 said:
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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Sync contacts with gmail then it stores them in the clouds

Try HD2ONE froyo cm 6.1.1 nand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It supports using your existing cm6 data.img on sd card. This alleviates the issue of low device storage.
This was rock solid as an sd build and better on nand.
I'll be sticking with this until gingerbread has all features working.

[Q] lags, high cpu and assorted sluggishness

I am using CMYLXGO's NAND stock Desire HD build. Its great. However, I am having so many lag issues. I seem to be one of the few that is experiencing this with the build so i turn to some of you to see if you have had similar issues with your phones.
Problems:
1. when auto populating apps (like using installer, uninstaller, managing applications in the system tab) the phone will take forever to pull up all the apps , the screen will cut off (because the screen times out) and when I hit the home button or any button to cut the phone back on it stays black.
2. every action makes the cpu run high. adding a widget to the home screen (apps populating issue again), changing screens really fast and other assorted minor processed.
I have stopped auto sync
I do not use auto rotate any more
I do not have any rogue processes for the most part
I don't understand why I seem to have these lag issues. Everyone else talks about how fast and fluid the build is. I am under the impression that with the build NOT being run from the memory card NAND would add to speed. This is not happening for me. If anyone has any idea why this is happening. I am convinced it is something on my end but I don't know where to start. I am open to suggestions.
I have 2.15 radio, 16 gig class 2 memory card.

Hmmm, not sure but have you tried another ROM similar to see if it does the same? You can also go into MAGLDR and wipe dalvik cache. I used this ROM and all was good for me. I have sense been using this one which is also working very well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976384&page=1

every version of this build has been tried. That is the part that gets me. differnt kernels don't help either. i have even used SetCPU and overcloced to try and get through some of the lag. it works, but it is only when I play games not when I need to perform uninstall or widget selection for the home pages. I use SeePU which is ususally shows my cpu strain in the bright orange (for high use). most of my processes/actions raise the cpu use to high levels. I never really operate in a green (or low) usage level no matter what the action is. I would really like to capitalize on the speed NAND is supposed to offer.

Personally I would try something else (a totally different ROM) and see if you are still getting the same results, maybe even revert back to a windows mobile rom just to see if you are still getting the hang up. Last option would be to restore your phone to stock and start over, reinstall HSPL 2.08 new radio, etc...etc...

do you use an app killer?

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do you use an app killer?
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yeah. but i did not at first. however, it is needed to stop some of the rogue processes. android.process.acore comes to mind.

I personally think this is one of the most stable builds around. I would rarely experience any lag, and if I did it would only last for seconds.

WorldWide60 said:
I personally think this is one of the most stable builds around. I would rarely experience any lag, and if I did it would only last for seconds.
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Believe me, I know. Everything is working in his build. GPS, MMS, easy to install - the works. This is why i really want this to work properly so I can use it, without the hiccups, as my daily build. It has to be something with my phone but I can't figure out what it is yet....

On Cmylxgo's build, the first time I loaded it, I had the laggy and unresponsiveness you described for the same reasons. What I found is that rebooting the system to off/on a couple of times when I first loaded the build, addressed the first initial lag and unresponsiveness. After doing a couple of reboots, I found the build as smooth as everyone says it is. I am now trying the GL Core v11 kernel and it gives an extra 300 pts to the Quadrant Score and seems to be a bit quicker than the Rafpigna 1.8 kernel that comes with the build. Also, standby battery drain seems to be a bit better with the hourly peaks at half what I see with Rafpigna. If rebooting a couple of times doesn't do it for you, I know trying another build which may not have all the bells and whistles as Cmylxgo, but it is worth a try to see if it makes a difference. For me at least Cmylxgo's stock Desire (HD)2 build is much faster and smoother than any of the MDJ SD builds I was using.

Best rom with Sense 3.5?

Hy,i search the best rom with HTC sense 3.5
There is a rom with the dormianx kernel and app2SD?
Now i use a CM7.2 rom with the dorimanx kernel and it's very fast and have a great battery use. So i search something like this but with HTC sense
If someone can help me i'm very gratful

Try coredroid the battery is gr8 also the speed ;-)

I would suggest Team Blue DROID rom

If version 7.9 is stable with the lockscreen I would say MwakiousRUNNINGrom.
LOVED that rom, specially version 3.0 but now I am looking for a Rom that has Tweaks (RCMix3D Tweaks) and Beats Audio.
the MwakiousRUNNINGrom has this, but is so unstable in the lockscreen, sometimes it works and sometimes not.
I'm using the Sense 3.5 rom from Team Blue Droid at the moment (Beats won't work ), but when MwakiousRUNNINGrom 7.9 is out I really will give it a try (again....)

Vinny1994 said:
If version 7.9 is stable with the lockscreen I would say MwakiousRUNNINGrom.
LOVED that rom, specially version 3.0 but now I am looking for a Rom that has Tweaks (RCMix3D Tweaks) and Beats Audio.
the MwakiousRUNNINGrom has this, but is so unstable in the lockscreen, sometimes it works and sometimes not.
I'm using the Sense 3.5 rom from Team Blue Droid at the moment (Beats won't work ), but when MwakiousRUNNINGrom 7.9 is out I really will give it a try (again....)
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beats audio doesnt work on any rom unless you have beats audio headphones
its all a figmant of imagination that beats audio will work on the hd2

@Kameirus (yeah I pressed quick reply instead of quote lol)
Guess it will never really work on the HTC HD2 because it doesn't have the hardware for it.
But, I do hear a sound difference on the rom "SENSATION XL V 3.0 stock ALL IN ONE" by haldric with my friend's Beats Solo headphone.
Yes, I also think thats really weird.

Vinny1994 said:
@Kameirus (yeah I pressed quick reply instead of quote lol)
Guess it will never really work on the HTC HD2 because it doesn't have the hardware for it.
But, I do hear a sound difference on the rom "SENSATION XL V 3.0 stock ALL IN ONE" by haldric with my friend's Beats Solo headphone.
Yes, I also think thats really weird.
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excatly you hear the difference with beats headphones
not the stock headphones or phone speaker
thats why it was removed from the TBD roms
not many of us can afford 200 dollar headphones lol

team blue droid, IMHO
all work but not without some bugs, ... but this is the best =) thanks to creators
I've been using it since I saw sens ROM

Kameirus said:
excatly you hear the difference with beats headphones
not the stock headphones or phone speaker
thats why it was removed from the TBD roms
not many of us can afford 200 dollar headphones lol
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Haha, I lolled at that last line
I am also looking for a Sense with Tweaks + Beats because I want to buy a "Beats by Dr. Dre Beats Pro" for my girlfriend's birthday.
But ofcourse if the Beats Audio does not work it doesn't make sense to get her this headphone.
The only thing that made music sound better trough my stock headphones is Volume + (Sound Boost) the payed version.

thanks to all I'm trying the team blue v3.4 but for me it have to much bugs i think i will return to my old cm7.2
But if will be corrct all the most important bugs I will be happy to give an other chance at team blue's rom

Ansem said:
thanks to all I'm trying the team blue v3.4 but for me it have to much bugs i think i will return to my old cm7.2
But if will be corrct all the most important bugs I will be happy to give an other chance at team blue's rom
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and what bugs would they be

my feedback on TBD 3.4
Hi,
some feedback I have on the TBD ROM:
* overall acceptable experience, but not bug free
* still have to reboot about once a day, system freezes from time to time
* had to set settings/power/sleep mode to off. Otherwise the phone seems to loose the settings/wireless&networks/Mobile networks/always-on mobile data setting.
* had to switch off facebook live updates. Serious battery hog.
* had to set settings/power/power mode to normal. Economy mode seems to freeze the phone when battery level is too low, and prevent restarting.
(very weird bug: did not want to start with battery X which ran down the day before, but did so with battery Y. Still, both batteries had about the same charge level. Had to push reset to get the phone starting with battery X. And yes, tested both with 10 sec off battery interval, so reset should not have been needed)
* it does not want to sync mail overnight, even with the correct settings in setting/accounts&sync on the individual accounts, and sleep mode off.
* SMS delivery notifications do not work: settings keep coming back to 'off'. Think I've seen it working once, but no more.
* built-in wifi and USB tethering do not work. wifi tethering beacon info does not publish WPA (and therefore makes it impossible to connect) and above that, it makes the phone crash when enabled for the 2nd time in a row. USB tethering keeps saying it is unable to activate. Using Barnacle now (which also complains about wpa).
* android rants, very probably not TBD related:
* calendar notifications in the notification bar do not disappear when read from the calendar directly. I now have to acknowledge meetings twice.
* tasks and notes do not sync seamlessly. Too many apps involved, too many flavours, too many clicks/taps. (using MyPhoneExplorer for the moment)
Not business ready.
overall impression of this android version compared to WM:
+: better apps, web sites with flash, better on line experience. side by side agendas.
-: slower, more bugs, less battery life, more hussle
But hey, I still stick with it after 4 days, so it's no too bad. Will try a faster SD card, to see how it behaves then.
(Using stock TBD 3.4 in NAND, latest CLK, class 4 SD card, from fresh clean latest WM official rom )

hansboot020 said:
Hi,
some feedback I have on the TBD ROM:
* overall acceptable experience, but not bug free
* still have to reboot about once a day, system freezes from time to time
* had to set settings/power/sleep mode to off. Otherwise the phone seems to loose the settings/wireless&networks/Mobile networks/always-on mobile data setting.
* had to switch off facebook live updates. Serious battery hog.
* had to set settings/power/power mode to normal. Economy mode seems to freeze the phone when battery level is too low, and prevent restarting.
(very weird bug: did not want to start with battery X which ran down the day before, but did so with battery Y. Still, both batteries had about the same charge level. Had to push reset to get the phone starting with battery X. And yes, tested both with 10 sec off battery interval, so reset should not have been needed)
* it does not want to sync mail overnight, even with the correct settings in setting/accounts&sync on the individual accounts, and sleep mode off.
* SMS delivery notifications do not work: settings keep coming back to 'off'. Think I've seen it working once, but no more.
* built-in wifi and USB tethering do not work. wifi tethering beacon info does not publish WPA (and therefore makes it impossible to connect) and above that, it makes the phone crash when enabled for the 2nd time in a row. USB tethering keeps saying it is unable to activate. Using Barnacle now (which also complains about wpa).
* android rants, very probably not TBD related:
* calendar notifications in the notification bar do not disappear when read from the calendar directly. I now have to acknowledge meetings twice.
* tasks and notes do not sync seamlessly. Too many apps involved, too many flavours, too many clicks/taps. (using MyPhoneExplorer for the moment)
Not business ready.
overall impression of this android version compared to WM:
+: better apps, web sites with flash, better on line experience. side by side agendas.
-: slower, more bugs, less battery life, more hussle
But hey, I still stick with it after 4 days, so it's no too bad. Will try a faster SD card, to see how it behaves then.
(Using stock TBD 3.4 in NAND, latest CLK, class 4 SD card, from fresh clean latest WM official rom )
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Don't waste your money on a new SD card if you don't already have one, it shouldn't make any difference to your experience. If necessary, move all of your heavily used apps to internal storage, this will make them less buggy and more responsive, and will allow them to load much faster on boot.

APN error for SFR (France)
Hi,
just to let you know, the built in APN definitions are wrong for SFR (France) in TBD 3.4:
APN 'full internet'/sl2sfr should have 'APN type' set to 'default' and not 'default,hipri'.
Otherwise 3G/3G+ won't turn on, and negotiation at data connection start will take longer. Being stuck to Edge and GPRS is a bit of a shame...

hansboot020 said:
Hi,
some feedback I have on the TBD ROM:
* overall acceptable experience, but not bug free
* still have to reboot about once a day, system freezes from time to time
* had to set settings/power/sleep mode to off. Otherwise the phone seems to loose the settings/wireless&networks/Mobile networks/always-on mobile data setting.
* had to switch off facebook live updates. Serious battery hog.
* had to set settings/power/power mode to normal. Economy mode seems to freeze the phone when battery level is too low, and prevent restarting.
(very weird bug: did not want to start with battery X which ran down the day before, but did so with battery Y. Still, both batteries had about the same charge level. Had to push reset to get the phone starting with battery X. And yes, tested both with 10 sec off battery interval, so reset should not have been needed)
* it does not want to sync mail overnight, even with the correct settings in setting/accounts&sync on the individual accounts, and sleep mode off.
* SMS delivery notifications do not work: settings keep coming back to 'off'. Think I've seen it working once, but no more.
* built-in wifi and USB tethering do not work. wifi tethering beacon info does not publish WPA (and therefore makes it impossible to connect) and above that, it makes the phone crash when enabled for the 2nd time in a row. USB tethering keeps saying it is unable to activate. Using Barnacle now (which also complains about wpa).
* android rants, very probably not TBD related:
* calendar notifications in the notification bar do not disappear when read from the calendar directly. I now have to acknowledge meetings twice.
* tasks and notes do not sync seamlessly. Too many apps involved, too many flavours, too many clicks/taps. (using MyPhoneExplorer for the moment)
Not business ready.
overall impression of this android version compared to WM:
+: better apps, web sites with flash, better on line experience. side by side agendas.
-: slower, more bugs, less battery life, more hussle
But hey, I still stick with it after 4 days, so it's no too bad. Will try a faster SD card, to see how it behaves then.
(Using stock TBD 3.4 in NAND, latest CLK, class 4 SD card, from fresh clean latest WM official rom )
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Nice information u have there, i just completed download the TBD v3.5 and looking for review... Thank god i read this thread.... Anyway thanks
Sent from my mighty HTC HD2