Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Maybe will be available in September, maybe not.
Use search function will be more helpful.
remember use the michyprima's zimage, it pushs my quadrant score to 1817
fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Good things come to those, who wait. ;-)
B.R.
d3m0n
JJbdoggg said:
how exactly do you know that? any proof?
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my mistacke...by overclocking each HW component works much more stable and cooler. I hear temperature is 10 c lower when you overclock hd2
i see your point but there are hundreds of people are using the oc'ed kernel in shubcrafts build yet ive seen VERY few complaints
p.s.
Everyone! i have suceeded in making teh androids run on teh nands the link is -***MOD EDIT- Link removed: Extremely obscene material.Immediate ban placed on this user account***
Problems ? i have E8400 Oc to 4.0 ghz for every day. its 100 % stable with custom cooling .
Thats does not change the fact he is runing much more hotter and more IMPORTANT his life span is reduced very much.
hd2 cpu OC'ed that much with no cooling at all can cause great deal of hw problems in long therm. be sure in that.
11cal cal i know oure problem,it ia because we are waiting for a new shui8 android build......we need some sleep lol...btw,i do not want a nand version,i want a nas version with network share so i can run android remotely haha..
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and melts down your hd2 cpu ...dough
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let me also say that overclock is optional. there are optimizations (code is optimized for armv7-a architecture, and other optimizations), but overclock is not enabled by default. w/ my kernel mhz range is 245-998.
Also CPU is downvolted so that means minor battery usage and higher cpu life due to minor voltage.
So why are you saying something that's not true?
@JJbdoggg
@michyprima you are talking about builds ( which only have OC option enabled ) and im talking about alrady Oc'ed devices with such builds
most builds do not have it enabled by default. atleast none that Ive tested. The kernal gives the ability to do it but it isnt set till setcpu is used.
My co-worker has been running his droid fulltime overclocked and has had no problems. I highly doubt any overclocking of phones is that extreme.
If the life span of your desktop cpu is reduced then you are either one applying to much voltage or two using not enough cooling.
Heres more info just to clarify.
http://www.overclockers.com/overclockings-impact-on-cpu-life/
i see i will have to explain some facts about overcloking so everybody understand, so we stop talking nonsense.
Each CPU have its own lifetime , some of earlyer Intel sockets had its lifetime of about 100 000 work hours.
Each time you give CPU more voltage, more than he is supposed to have, he is producing more temperature which offcourse lower his lifetime by certain amount of work hours compared to planed lifetime.
You all talk some nonsense, how some of your friends uses OC HW or phones few weeks or months. if you had time to read my post precisely, you could noticed i said in long therm.
Back again to OC..using custom cooling will only make cpu stable, will not restart or overhear due to over -voltage.
and there is many more factors that is making slighty different situation in hd2 cpu compared to pc...
Negative side is that there is no cooling..only positive side is that hd2 cpu is most of time working on 200-400 mhz depending on the thing you are doing on your phone at the time.
but be sure when you use his full potential, like in multimedia (gaming, playing video ...) in that OC condition, in long therm you are risking to cause HW problems on your phone because of over voltage -missing any kind of cooling that OC 'ed cpu.
my last msg about this.
Cheers
I guess he didnt read my exact post detailing the negative effects and how to determine them... I guess its nonsense even though its factual.
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Im new to winmo can any one tell me if its possible to set my cpu scale..
Ive been studyin android, so this is a whole diffr ball game for me.
also id like to know what the best turn by turn navi on winmo
I am pretty sure it can be overclocked and underclocked. I have not spent any time looking at this but hopefully there is, or will be, an application available for this purpose. I'd love to actually scale the CPU down for most use then speed it back up to normal when I need it...like a profile activated type of thing, or maybe according to which applications I am using on the phone. There is something like this for Android and I have it on my Nexus One.
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I am pretty sure it can be overclocked and underclocked. I have not spent any time looking at this but hopefully there is, or will be, an application available for this purpose. I'd love to actually scale the CPU down for most use then speed it back up to normal when I need it...like a profile activated type of thing, or maybe according to which applications I am using on the phone. There is something like this for Android and I have it on my Nexus One.
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yea thatd b awesome, im so use to my android being able to do that hahha
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i really wanna get an android port to this amazing piece of technology
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yea thatd b awesome, im so use to my android being able to do that hahha
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i really wanna get an android port to this amazing piece of technology
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+1 for the android, I am waiting with alot of hope! haha
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its 1 gigahertz what more do you need?
He needs to suck his battery power out!
kholk said:
He needs to suck his battery power out!
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Exact, already drains more than enough
To answer the question, no, there's no overclocking app that works on the HD2.
Really the answer is
"Yes, write an app and overclock it!"
....but I recommend not to do this, the HTC HD2 gets hot at 1GHz when doing intensive things, like executing flash content and remember that we aren't in the summer when the external temperature reaches over 37°C.
If it gets hot with an external temperature of 14°C, imagine at 37°C.
My PhenomX4 for example is overclocked (with overvoltage) from 2.5GHz (stock) to 3.4GHz (OC) and I remember that in the summer I had to put it at 2.8GHz because it got too much hot!
Winter: 32°C(idle) - 54°C (full load)
Summer: 53-55°C (idle). I didn't want to try at full load. lol
Anyway, remember that a PC CPU has got a huge cooler on it, while the SnapDragon hasn't got it and there isn't too much heat dissipation. Remember then that the SnapDragon is a mobile CPU that is supposed to work at a low temperature (PC CPUs are supposed to work at high temps) and it is supposed to NOT reach 45-50°C, so beware!
as far as the gps question goes... i use ALK's CoPilot 8. It's only $30 and is a full featured gps app. You get free live local search, free map updates and more. If you want live traffic info it's only $20 a year.
SimPRoBer20 said:
Im new to winmo can any one tell me if its possible to set my cpu scale..
Ive been studyin android, so this is a whole diffr ball game for me.
also id like to know what the best turn by turn navi on winmo
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Telenav works great for me. I use for free. If you know some one that has an unlimited sprint account u can log in using there phone number and the pw is the last 4 of of the number.
I'm be more interested in undervolting and underclocking it. The standard voltage is what is needed for ALL the processor chips to work at the speed, however most can use less than that voltage and still do the same speed and be stable.
I undervoltage my laptops and it makes them run cooler and get better battery life.
CDR123 said:
its 1 gigahertz what more do you need?
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we want it to actually run at 1ghz not 890 whatever. thats the main thing about the HD2 and Nexus. I waited for this to come out so i can get it mod it and run it at its full potential.
I have my LEO in the mail now or ordered any way. cant wait to get it. I want to see win 6.5 but im a bigger fan of android. I have modded all of my phones and Im a big HTC fan. Cant wait to see what this brings.
If your worried about battery life get an extended battery. As for heat, hey small price to pay for speed increases. Unfortunately until someone actually writes an app that can cpu scale, nothing can be assumed.
~Jasecloud4
tamagnus said:
we want it to actually run at 1ghz not 890 whatever
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it already scales to 1ghz when it needs to. It can scale quicker than the OS can start opening programs, so say it is idling at 700, you click to start a program, it is already doing 1ghz by the time you release your finger from teh link.
It would be nice to push it over 1ghz, say 1.3-1.5ghz? Just a nice thought...
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It would be nice to push it over 1ghz, say 1.3-1.5ghz? Just a nice thought...
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Yeah, that would be awesome, to get this thing up to 1.5!! But...if somebody did, the battery might not even last long enough to take a screenshot to prove it
Hey everyone!
I was wondering...
So far, the HD2 in Android is able to run at a maximum of 1190Mhz. Is there a way to remove this limit and allow Android to increase the CPU clock frequency?
It'd be awesome to see what the Quadrant score would be if speeds of 1.3Ghz were used And Android would be blazing fast
Bump....isn't anyone as interested as I am?
No, in order to reach a higher clock speed the Kernal would have to be modified. But even then many other variables will also need to be considered. Vcore will need to be adjusted, and since at 1.2GHz it's already been increased they would have to increase it further in order not to hit a ceiling causing the CPU to become unstable under load.
Modifying code will also mean that other parts of the Kernal or OS might not play well together. Bugs can be created and would need to be fixed.
Sometimes even doing this will reduce performance rather than increasing. There is a reason why they havn't gone above that speed for now or ever.
Have a great day sir.
frankly saying just don't see the point of doing that. personally i wouldn't want my HD2 to smell like burnt chicken
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Bump....isn't anyone as interested as I am?
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Benchmark scores are ultimately pointless, unless all you want to do with your phone is have willy-waving competitions with other HD2 owners.
"My build get's 3 more points in Linpack than you" big fat hairy deal.
It makes no difference, the only thing that matters is whether your build is fast enough, stable enough, and that you are happy with it. Why melt your phone just to say you've got the highest score in a completely arbitrary set of tests?
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Benchmark scores are ultimately pointless, unless all you want to do with your phone is have willy-waving competitions with other HD2 owners.
"My build get's 3 more points in Linpack than you" big fat hairy deal.
It makes no difference, the only thing that matters is whether your build is fast enough, stable enough, and that you are happy with it. Why melt your phone just to say you've got the highest score in a completely arbitrary set of tests?
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LOL XD that was pretty funny.
Reno_79 said:
Benchmark scores are ultimately pointless, unless all you want to do with your phone is have willy-waving competitions with other HD2 owners.
"My build get's 3 more points in Linpack than you" big fat hairy deal.
It makes no difference, the only thing that matters is whether your build is fast enough, stable enough, and that you are happy with it. Why melt your phone just to say you've got the highest score in a completely arbitrary set of tests?
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*Linpack score of 7*
Time to pop the blue chip
Elemental_Fire said:
Hey everyone!
I was wondering...
So far, the HD2 in Android is able to run at a maximum of 1190Mhz. Is there a way to remove this limit and allow Android to increase the CPU clock frequency?
It'd be awesome to see what the Quadrant score would be if speeds of 1.3Ghz were used And Android would be blazing fast
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Search my kernel thread. I posted benchmarks at 1.3Ghz. There is really little point to it. I am back running at 1Ghz again.
Sent from my HTC HD2
my leo only goes until 998mhz.. does anyone know why?
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Search my kernel thread. I posted benchmarks at 1.3Ghz. There is really little point to it. I am back running at 1Ghz again.
Sent from my HTC HD2
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I can validate this. I have been using many different kernels and for my money Hastarin's r8 (maximum cpu speed 998mhz) runs the smoothest and most stable, while giving me 6ma in standby (with 3G on).
Overclocked at 1.9ghz I saw some minor speed improvements but not really all that much and the battery drain was horrendous. Clock speed is overrated, there isn't really anything available on Android that requires more than 1ghz anyways. I have been playing IQ and Final Fantasy 8 with my wii remote on my current CM6 ROM with Hastarin's kernel and everything is smooth as butter.
Benchmark scores are useful to compare kernels and cpu governors, and I really only use Quadrant to look for big changes (+/- 200 points or more). I just updated from an Elbartome kernel to Hastarin r8 and saw an immediate 200 point Quadrant boost using an interactive governor at 1ghz and bettery battery drain.
The real differences are in the kernel, not the clock speed and as kernels get more and more efficient, you will see higher benchmarks from the same clock speed.
Remember that first Cotulla ROM we got on our HD2s in the very beginning? That was 1ghz and it ran like crap (actually amazing for a first ever port) compared to what we have now.
gianmich said:
my leo only goes until 998mhz.. does anyone know why?
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Again, it's the kernel you are using.
Has nothing to do with the phone, WinMo ROM, or Radio or anything.
All the ROMs in the dev section tell you which kernel they use. If they use Hastarin kernel you will not be able to OC it, I think everyone else uses an OC to 1190mhz kernel, so using their ROM or their kernel will give you the higher clock speed.
Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
asphaltkiller said:
Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Pull your head in.
The OP asked a question and I answered it. I have run at 1.3 just fine but have chosen not to do so. Not everyone could of course. I have been lucky with my phone.
If you don't like my answer you're free to ignore it but there is no need for posts like yours.
Sent from my HTC HD2
seems to me the ultimate kernel would be the r8 with undervolt under 1000 , and overvolt above 1000 to maintain sability .. i dun care about battery , i carry 2 with me
who on earth are you to tell others how to reply. the last time i checked your name was not in the list of moderators.
asphaltkiller said:
Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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asphaltkiller said:
Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Did you happen to notice that out of every reply to this thread, yours was the least coherent and offered the least amount of useful information?
The one nugget of information you tried to give wasn't even accurate. It IS possible to release a 1.3ghz kernel, but one has not been publicly released because, as hastarin pointed out, it doesn't really improve performance.
hastarin is a kernel developer, he knows more about this stuff than any of us and I am sure the OP could use the information provided by him and all of us who actually use different kernels and either OC or don't.
Thanks everyone. While it is true that all I wanted to know was if it was possible, a little exra knowledge can't hurt anyone Hastarin, I use your kernel, and admit it's amazing! Guess I don't really need 1.3Ghz as long as the device runs smooth, right? Quadrant speeds aren't totally relevant but I like to show off sometimes, like we all do
so hastarin's kernel allow speed up to 998 mhz?
With respect, this guys post isn't the most coherant but he is French so let's not be too judgemental.
He's also got a point. He's not meaning everyone, especially not hastarin, but posts #4, 5, 6 and 7 are pointless, uninformative and even wrong.
I'm not a big one for philosophy but Plato said "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something". People should just stick to posting in threads that they can usefully contribute to.
I hope this post contributes in the way of reminding people that the post counter is not a measure of intelligence, experience or forum standing.
asphaltkiller said:
Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Lol yeah, he was helping out...which he did Anyways enough of the flaming lol!
Hastarin, could you inbox me? Need to talk
Elemental_Fire said:
Lol yeah, he was helping out...which he did Anyways enough of the flaming lol!
Hastarin, could you inbox me? Need to talk
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Feel free to send me a PM but I am about to head out for most of the day so don't expect a prompt reply.
Sent from my HTC HD2
Hi !
It's my first thread, i hope you can find the solutions to solve my problem.
In first time, i'm sorry to my bad english. So, my problem is:
I have a HTC HD2 and i know to install Android on that. My new challenge is to overclock my device, with SetCPU or other. I have already followed some tutorials to do a few profiles... I did it, the maximum value i selected is 998 MHZ. It's Ok i think, i cross "Set on boot" and "enbale" so when i use Quadrant Standard Edition, i check 1024 Mhz. But when i see the device of XDA's devs i can see like rafpigna's nand 3024 MHZ ! Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528
My questions are:
1. How can i do it ?
2. Can i accelerate my N64's roms (with N64oid) if i succeed to solve this problem ?
Thx for all.
MAMiiX said:
Hi !
It's my first thread, i hope you can find the solutions to solve my problem.
In first time, i'm sorry to my bad english. So, my problem is:
I have a HTC HD2 and i know to install Android on that. My new challenge is to overclock my device, with SetCPU or other. I have already followed some tutorials to do a few profiles... I did it, the maximum value i selected is 998 MHZ. It's Ok i think, i cross "Set on boot" and "enbale" so when i use Quadrant Standard Edition, i check 1024 Mhz. But when i see the device of XDA's devs i can see like rafpigna's nand 3024 MHZ ! Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528
My questions are:
1. How can i do it ?
2. Can i accelerate my N64's roms (with N64oid) if i succeed to solve this problem ?
Thx for all.
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Same question here... but, we really need to use setcpu????
I hope some people can answer us
MAMiiX said:
Hi !
It's my first thread, i hope you can find the solutions to solve my problem.
In first time, i'm sorry to my bad english. So, my problem is:
I have a HTC HD2 and i know to install Android on that. My new challenge is to overclock my device, with SetCPU or other. I have already followed some tutorials to do a few profiles... I did it, the maximum value i selected is 998 MHZ. It's Ok i think, i cross "Set on boot" and "enbale" so when i use Quadrant Standard Edition, i check 1024 Mhz. But when i see the device of XDA's devs i can see like rafpigna's nand 3024 MHZ ! Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908528
My questions are:
1. How can i do it ?
2. Can i accelerate my N64's roms (with N64oid) if i succeed to solve this problem ?
Thx for all.
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This is totally dependent on the Kernel supporting overclock.
This question cannot be answered completely due to the fact there are several Android ROMs with different configurations and preset Set-CPU profiles.
Also it appears you've mistaken the Quadrant score to be the frequency of the CPU? The CPU was not 3024MHz, that is the Quadrant score. The CPU was 1.5Ghz.
I believe 998MHz is the standard highest processor speed of the HD2, unless you have a Kernel which supports overclocking you can do whatever you want in Set-CPU and it won't change a thing.
I'm afraid I cannot answer your question regarding the emulator but I believe it would not have a massive effect, maybe fix some lag if you have any.
Thanks you very much. So if i install the Rapigna's buil i can have this quadrant's score ? Really ? Because it's HIS Kernel which he can does this ?
Isnt it also the case the overclocking will only work when the phone is running with the charger plugged in?
I have not seen any overclocking working on battery (although i imagine it would kill the battery!).
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Isnt it also the case the overclocking will only work when the phone is running with the charger plugged in?
I have not seen any overclocking working on battery (although i imagine it would kill the battery!).
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No.
There are a multitude of threads from users moaning about overclocking depleting the battery far quicker than the standard clock settings. That on its own is enough to conclude the phone doesn't have to be plugged in to allow the overclock to work.
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Thanks you very much. So if i install the Rapigna's buil i can have this quadrant's score ? Really ? Because it's HIS Kernel which he can does this ?
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You may receive comparable results although Quadrant scores have been criticised because of what they are based upon. You may receive lower scores. Running your phone in an overclocked state is an effective way of shortening the life of your phone, if you want to play games so much I would suggest maybe a PSP or Nintendo DS?
Overclocking depends on the kernel that is used. Kernel like tytung's kernels supports max speeds of up to 1190mhz. Rapigna's kernel supports up to 1.5ghz.
Based on this, if you use these kernels, use it alongside setcpu to control your overclocking.
However, I strongly advise against overclocking + charging at the same time unless if you are in an air conditioned room. There has been some speculation that overheating might be related to the recent outburst of touchscreens failing "mysteriously". Another technique to avoid this is to use a battery temp profile in SET CPU to give you a warning when your battery has reached dangerous levels.
Thanks for all !
1190mhz is the best and safest over clock speed
Just wondering what you are all clocked at
and if stable.
Currently at 1.4 myself and running smooth
MJ-12
I don't even know how to overclock it. Does one need a custom ROM for that or does the stock one suffice? Not that it really matters, I mostly just read comics or books or watch movies on my tablet, none of which needs that much CPU.
Greece during the summer can get quite hot, so it's definitely not a friendly place for overclockers, even desktop rigs can feel the extra heat, so for me, overclocking will not happen for another 3 months minimum. Even now, at stock 3.1 the tablet can get pretty hot when playing some HD games.
I'm sure only root is required but I agree - pushing the cores for nothing more than reading, watching movies or playing already tablet optimized games seems like a pointless endeavor and certainly dangerous to the long term health of the tablet.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I am happily running mine @ 1.6 and very stable with no fc. Did have it higher @ 1.7 but had major problems with reeboots. Benchmark above taken with current rom @1.6
Try "StabilityTest" from the Market to see what your device can handle.
Mine ran 2 hours without problems on 1.5GHz but crashed after 17mins on 1.6GHz.
Running the tablet at 1.5GHz makes a big difference, everything is much more responsive and the browser is way faster.
Can you suggest me the right app to overclock my iconia? And what I have to do to set that apps? I had some doubts with options like "interactive, on demand, ...etc". Which one could give a little bit of stability? I can't find any guide on the internet to understand what these settings change, and which one is the better way to optimize our tablet.
setCPU works fine if rooted; you can also use the Virtuous method if you run one of their ROMs; check the DEV sections for more info...
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setCPU works fine if rooted; you can also use the Virtuous method if you run one of their ROMs; check the DEV sections for more info...
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Not sure setcpu works on both cores.
Use the virtuous method it is a new way to overclock and it is faster than using any app...
Lets face it anyone running a rom I am sure it is virtuous something
Thanks Trinnity66 and MJ-12. I think you've finally convinced me to root this device and run a custom ROM.
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Thanks Trinnity66 and MJ-12. I think you've finally convinced me to root this device and run a custom ROM.
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You are welcome, if you do it right you will love the difference. I use the galaxy Rom tried the 3.2 xoom. But galaxy tab Rom is so nice and very smooth
Goodluck.
MJ-12
just in case people doesnt know
the mainboard are stressed on a bench before go outside and get sell
put the mainboard in a OVEN (not yours at home, it's a special OVEN) then after 1 hour at something like 60 - 70 degrees running
All mainboard got an error are returned to check and fixed
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overclocking does not give you that much improvement...
for sure optimized kernel with slight overclock are running smother than the stock stuck at 1GHz but.... when people are crying to have not enought battery... why overclocking ???? the things who use more battery is the SOC and the SCREEN....
I run for now Stock 4.010.24 with Stock Kernel (I will go back to custom firwmare when all will be ok and stable)
games are running perfectly... when they are dev for the tegra
sanaell said:
the mainboard are stressed on a bench before go outside and get sell
put the mainboard in a OVEN (not yours at home, it's a special OVEN) then after 1 hour at something like 60 - 70 degrees running
All mainboard got an error are returned to check and fixed
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What the hell are you babbling about and what does that even have to do with the discussion?
I don't even know if I understand you correctly since you're not even trying to make coherent sentences, but if you're referring to components on the motherboard being loose then there's WAY better ways of fixing that than throwing the whole thing in an oven of any kind. You should NEVER fry the whole motherboard just to fix one or two components that are loose, instead just apply a heatgun on those specific components. Besides, AFAIK none of the issues with A500 are related to loose parts...
His post has everyting to do with this thread and nothing about "loose parts" He is refering to the physical conditions the parts are subject to ie......Heat. Which in turn is increased by overclocking the passively cooled processor. Which is not very efficent and can easily overheat. Its ok if you don't understand plain English, but your post is obnoxious...
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His post has everyting to do with this thread and nothing about "loose parts" He is refering to the physical conditions the parts are subject to ie......Heat. Which in turn is increased by overclocking the passively cooled processor. Which is not very efficent and can easily overheat. Its ok if you don't understand plain English, but your post is obnoxious...
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My english is not high but I think I was clear, proof someone understand what I was speaking about.
I forgot the most important
ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore can go between 800Mhz and 2Ghz if someone find a way to cool it, well maybe the tablet will go until 2Ghz (reducing the battery life a lot, something near of the W500 ..._)
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
Dn_nS said:
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader
TheMadScientist said:
Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader
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Sorry I didn't specify things. I do mean the exynos version. There are some kernels that lift the 2,3 max freq to 2,65 GHz, but know that some S7 kernels climb to 2,9 GHz. So (in my book) that means the S8 should be able to overclock to 3 GHz (cause of the base A73 base of the 2nd gen mongoose cores and 10nm footprint).
So I'm just curious if it's not possible or there is some other reason why none are doing this.
And with underclocking I meant adding freqs that are below the standard lowest freq, my bad. (Don't how to call it otherwise)
Battery life.....
Battery life mainly.
Through overclocking, sure you can make s8 run as fast as oneplus considering s8's heavy skin, but most of us would rather see 6-8 hours of SOT with 24 hours of usage than our app opening 1-2 seconds faster.
Saying that, there are plenty of debloated roms for s8 that can run faster/smoother than the stock without sacrificing the battery life.
So, as for your question, maybe the devs don't want to put too much effort on overclocking an already pretty fast processor or underclocking an already pretty efficient processor. I am not a dev so can't really talk about complicated codings and stuff.
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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This! Says it all.
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The S8 is fast enough on its own. I never even OC'd my S6. I find Exynos processors to be really fast as-is.
It's true, I dont't see any practical use for overclocking, yet. It would be purely for the fun of it. I'm sure we will see it more in the future, when some more hardware-heavy Games will be released.
Undervolting on the other surprises me aswell, to not see it frequently. Because, although it's totally fine right now, batterylife and efficiency can always be better.
I'm curious if we will see more Devs include this in their ROMs and Kernels
I agree with all the above. I called either due to snapdragon but I wouldn't even i if I could. I actually limit the clock speed on my big CPUs because the higher clock rates eat more power.
Also, why? Just why? Looking at cpu usage on my s8, the only time I've seen it actually pegged was running benchmarks. Overclocking is absolutely useless if the variable cpu clock never goes to 100% for more than milliseconds. Why do something so potentially dangerous for nothing?
:good::good::good:Well put guys:good::good::good:
I cant overclock but i still have set cpu and use it to underclock (when the screen is off) but most kf the time it is underclocked if it is not playing a game or ram extensive app
IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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Why you overclock GTX 2080? Why you overclock i9 or amd threadripper 2950x cpu? Why you overclock DDR4 3000MHZ Ram? Why you use 3DMark? Or cinebench or, or or........
Thats all the same.
To everyone asking "Why??", I find it rather odd that you don't know already...
The reason why some of us like (want) to overclock, or undervolt, is the exact same reason we're all on this site: We like to TWEAK STUFF!
Doesn't matter if it's rooting, flashing a custom ROM, creating a unique theme, coding a new app. All of those boil down to the same human instinct to explore, to make things better, or make new things. Whether or not it's needed is completely irrelevant
Using your logic, there's no reason to have a custom kernel in the first place, nevermind rooting your phone, or having custom ROM. The phone worked fine the way it was, after all, right?
In closing, the motto "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is what the lay people adhere to. We who are more inclined in certain aspects of life (such as the XDA community) live by another: "If it ain't broke, tweak it!", or if you rather "If it ain't broke, tweak it till it does, then fix it!"
Please add over/underclocking and over/under volting for CPU and GPU cores to every kernel, for every device that allows it! We already except blame if anything bad should come to our device the moment we decide to root and/or flash something, so why not give us every single capability available for the devices and leave it up to us to do what we so choose? :good:
[Naturally, this is based on the assumption that a device lacks a bootloader, and the kernel maker possesses the knowledge; thus, this is referring to those situations where both apply.]
IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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To be faster than other team who is performance tuning as well. You don't have to do it because not everyone is doing. It should be geared towards to people who really care. Like others in this thread mention battery life but people like me wants it faster.
Also I game with the phone connected to charger all the time. I don't really game on the go though if I did I would bring portable battery if someone driving me. That just me.
People like me use phones for emulation. GameCube games are almost at the right speed but do run just a bit to slow in some location rendering them unpleasant to play. A bit more of cpu power would certainly make " Wind waker " run at constant 30 FPS. I hope this topic to be revived
Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it
As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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xperia modder said:
Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?
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As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?
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Well tbh i dont know but this has always been. A thing with exynos chips , yeah some developers go out of their way and write some stuff from scratch to make it work you know
Dn_nS said:
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Yeah has been realesed a2n kernel oc up to 2,8 ghz and oc up to 839mhz all of them is all core