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Benchmarked VillainROM 6.2.0

Hey guys, I just benchmarked my Hero(Telus) ... VillainRom 6.2.0 ... used the app from the market(blue table graph icon), just wondering what everyone else is being benched at??
The only thing that is backgrounded is the Desk Clock that comes with Rosie.
117.164 total graphics score
161.830 total CPU score
118.092 total memory score
37.326 total file system score

This means nothing if you don't post your CPU speed.

havn't touched cpu ... ROM and radio only updates ... not using setCPU, or the other popular overclocker, or any for that matter.

Graphic 119.479836
CPU 185.26137
Memory 139.53342
Filesystem 35.040806

bulltronStudios said:
havn't touched cpu ... ROM and radio only updates ... not using setCPU, or the other popular overclocker, or any for that matter.
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Ok, so what is the default CPU settings for that ROM, then?

Well, the thread is for a particular rom, so, everyone should have same default for the rom, check google if your that curious
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LOL! Ok.
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bulltronStudios said:
Hey guys, I just benchmarked my Hero(Telus) ... VillainRom 6.2.0 ... used the app from the market(blue table graph icon), just wondering what everyone else is being benched at??
The only thing that is backgrounded is the Desk Clock that comes with Rosie.
117.164 total graphics score
161.830 total CPU score
118.092 total memory score
37.326 total file system score
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Why would you be spamming the forum with YET another benchmark thread, while there are quite a few of them already; post in those.

adwinp said:
Why would you be spamming the forum with YET another benchmark thread, while there are quite a few of them already; post in those.
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guess i didn't cruise to page 400 in the forums ... figured mabye alot of ppl were downloading this ROM ... it does seem to be the fan favorite. and perhaps save people looking 399 pages past this one ...

Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)

bulltronStudios said:
guess i didn't cruise to page 400 in the forums ... figured mabye alot of ppl were downloading this ROM ... it does seem to be the fan favorite. and perhaps save people looking 399 pages past this one ...
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Well, I guess if people are willing to download a new rom, they would like to look into all their options, not only one. For that matter, this thread (found on page 3) is much more helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656818
What's the point of having 20 people posting their results with the same rom on the same hardware? Are you going for a statistics? And your argument about people having to scroll around is completely pointless, because your thread won't stay on page 1 forever, you know? So people *will* have to scroll again to see it...

DeXa said:
Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)
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Now, THAT's meaningful!

DeXa said:
Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)
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what kind of heat are you putting off at 748??
what are you using for overclock? setCPU?

killer4o said:
Well, I guess if people are willing to download a new rom, they would like to look into all their options, not only one. For that matter, this thread (found on page 3) is much more helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656818
What's the point of having 20 people posting their results with the same rom on the same hardware? Are you going for a statistics? And your argument about people having to scroll around is completely pointless, because your thread won't stay on page 1 forever, you know? So people *will* have to scroll again to see it...
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all i was saying was, in response to first dude, marinerb ... was I did NOT put aything on my phone, also, that i had STOCK rom ... if people have overclocks, good, post em, i dont, so i didn't list it.... looking for comparison, no need to be nazi's about it ... so, yeah... just let the thread die.

bulltronStudios said:
what kind of heat are you putting off at 748??
what are you using for overclock? setCPU?
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I don't notice more heat than usual. I only notice heat when charging and it's from the battery. Battery life is better than with stock settings. I use SetCPU, no profiles, ondemand governor and ben39_nobfs_noCC_no-whining kernel.

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DeXa said:
Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)
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is yours stable at 748 if you run the setcpu stress tester for a minute or two?
if so then that's cool - I might have to try that speed too. I know mine locks up instantly at 780mHz more or less, but solid as a rock at 730. I have a feeling I tried 748 and it slowed to a crawl in the stress test and became really unresponsive yet not fully locking up... which to me makes that speed much worse than keeping it a little slower with 100% stability.
EDIT: stress testing 748 right now and it's still working ok... so maybe I stress tested a higher speed instead? running at basically 750mHz is freakin amazing for our little heroes if we can keep them running like that for the next couple of years
update: stress tested my phone at 748mHz results: lasted for 112725 ms before I exited the test with no errors! This little hero is so amazing!
EDIT: whoops - just reset itself LoL.... damn, I hope it boots up ok since I got cocky and set it to boot with the 748 top speed.... damn...
But I'll try it again - you've got me curious now

I have not stress tested the device but it runs stable for a couple of days now. No reboots and no lockups. The devices are somehow different some cannot run at 748 others can. Mine is even stable at 768Mhz but I i suffer less battery life with that setting, so I leave it 748 and everything is ok.

Dexa can you link me that kernel? I'm running ben39_nobfs_no-whining kernel clocked at 738mhz stable with stress testing and I'm curious about the noCC part that you're running. Thanks!

Ah never mind I found it; there was an updated version.

[Q] The NAND version.

Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.

fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Maybe will be available in September, maybe not.
Use search function will be more helpful.

remember use the michyprima's zimage, it pushs my quadrant score to 1817

fred89 said:
Good morning.
I am new to the world of the HTC and I have a question.
When that version will be available for NAND?
What is the best version of Android?
I am impatient. Thank you
Sorry for my language, I'm french.
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Good things come to those, who wait. ;-)
B.R.
d3m0n

JJbdoggg said:
how exactly do you know that? any proof?
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my mistacke...by overclocking each HW component works much more stable and cooler. I hear temperature is 10 c lower when you overclock hd2

i see your point but there are hundreds of people are using the oc'ed kernel in shubcrafts build yet ive seen VERY few complaints
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Everyone! i have suceeded in making teh androids run on teh nands the link is -***MOD EDIT- Link removed: Extremely obscene material.Immediate ban placed on this user account***

Problems ? i have E8400 Oc to 4.0 ghz for every day. its 100 % stable with custom cooling .
Thats does not change the fact he is runing much more hotter and more IMPORTANT his life span is reduced very much.
hd2 cpu OC'ed that much with no cooling at all can cause great deal of hw problems in long therm. be sure in that.

11cal cal i know oure problem,it ia because we are waiting for a new shui8 android build......we need some sleep lol...btw,i do not want a nand version,i want a nas version with network share so i can run android remotely haha..
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ognjeniHD said:
and melts down your hd2 cpu ...dough
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let me also say that overclock is optional. there are optimizations (code is optimized for armv7-a architecture, and other optimizations), but overclock is not enabled by default. w/ my kernel mhz range is 245-998.
Also CPU is downvolted so that means minor battery usage and higher cpu life due to minor voltage.
So why are you saying something that's not true?

@JJbdoggg
@michyprima you are talking about builds ( which only have OC option enabled ) and im talking about alrady Oc'ed devices with such builds

most builds do not have it enabled by default. atleast none that Ive tested. The kernal gives the ability to do it but it isnt set till setcpu is used.
My co-worker has been running his droid fulltime overclocked and has had no problems. I highly doubt any overclocking of phones is that extreme.
If the life span of your desktop cpu is reduced then you are either one applying to much voltage or two using not enough cooling.
Heres more info just to clarify.
http://www.overclockers.com/overclockings-impact-on-cpu-life/

i see i will have to explain some facts about overcloking so everybody understand, so we stop talking nonsense.
Each CPU have its own lifetime , some of earlyer Intel sockets had its lifetime of about 100 000 work hours.
Each time you give CPU more voltage, more than he is supposed to have, he is producing more temperature which offcourse lower his lifetime by certain amount of work hours compared to planed lifetime.
You all talk some nonsense, how some of your friends uses OC HW or phones few weeks or months. if you had time to read my post precisely, you could noticed i said in long therm.
Back again to OC..using custom cooling will only make cpu stable, will not restart or overhear due to over -voltage.
and there is many more factors that is making slighty different situation in hd2 cpu compared to pc...
Negative side is that there is no cooling..only positive side is that hd2 cpu is most of time working on 200-400 mhz depending on the thing you are doing on your phone at the time.
but be sure when you use his full potential, like in multimedia (gaming, playing video ...) in that OC condition, in long therm you are risking to cause HW problems on your phone because of over voltage -missing any kind of cooling that OC 'ed cpu.
my last msg about this.
Cheers

I guess he didnt read my exact post detailing the negative effects and how to determine them... I guess its nonsense even though its factual.

can HD2 Raise 1200Mhz?

Some android devices based on snapdragon, raise the 1200mhz, HD2 can?
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tomeu0000 said:
Some android devices based on snapdragon, raise the 1200mhz, HD2 can?
thx
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In theory, sure.
In practice, I don't think it's sustainable. You could modify a kernel and try for yourself! But overclocking your cpu is going to degrade it, and the gain wouldn't be that noticable. Also it would be pretty unstable I suppose!

atticus182 said:
In theory, sure.
In practice, I don't think it's sustainable. You could modify a kernel and try for yourself! But overclocking your cpu is going to degrade it, and the gain wouldn't be that noticable. Also it would be pretty unstable I suppose!
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I would encourage you to do a little more research into overclocking. Some kernels allow up to 1190mhz through setCPU and i have played games at this speed - so for real life use that speed has been stable. A thorough benchmark will better test the stability, but only if you raise the voltage will the CPU's life be effected, but if by only a small amount then you will probably upgrade before the CPU is anywhere near giving up. I do agree with the post above that there will be little noticable change in experience, but this will show in benchmarks.
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Read my thread dude

Making my Evo any faster?

So I've been messing around with different roms and kernels for the past few weeks and finally settled on CM6 6.1.1, and the snap 7.6 bfs kernel, for stability and speed. I turned on the turbo mode with snap, OC'd to 1152mhz (freezes at 1192), killed all apps, and ran quadrant.
[Picture of a 2330 benchmark screencap was supposed to go here, but I don't have eight post haha]
I know thats pretty good, my scores average from 2100-2350, but I'm looking to make it even quicker. What can I do?
Thanks!

Move to gingerbread.
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sultan.of.swing said:
Move to gingerbread.
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Which ROM and which kernel?
weehooherod said:
Don't use Snap 7.6 on CM6.1.1, just use the stock kernel. The new kernel built in with CM6.1.1 is much better, Snap 7.6 is pretty old.
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I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC

xsaqzw said:
Which ROM and which kernel?
I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.

A benchmark does not actually show how fast your phone is....
Cyanogen himself stated this.

quadrant scores =/= to your phone being 'fast'.
But if you care about synthetic benchmarks then you could trick your file system into giving you quadrant scores in the 3000+ range.
by the way thanks for posting this in the relevant subsection of the evo forum dedicated to development this will absolutely further the development of android.

Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
Edit: and this goes in the q and a section

Lol okay then guys, so which gingerbread ROM and which kernel for the best efficiency and speed?

david279 said:
Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
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I couldn't agree more, how instant can a phone get? Theres a point where speed wont be relevant anymore and its pretty damn close to it already. In my eyes efficiency is the future, doing more with less is something im looking forward to.
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lexusmike said:
Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
Edit: and this goes in the q and a section
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**** man I'm sorry I'm new to this forum.
Mods: Please move to the correct section.

Thread moved to General.

Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.

Oddly enough, I'd rather have the transition animations that come with some of the custom ROMs, even if they take longer. They provide a much more "fluid" experience. I don't like the jarring, speed-driven, animation-free transitions that come with stock ROMs, because they lack polish. As soon as I saw videos of those animations, I was in love. LOL. Seriously though, lag and lack of animations (which consequently actually help hide lag and load times) are the two things I see holding back the polish of Android. Just as an example (not trying start a flame war here, people), look at the animation when going from portrait to landscape in iOS. Then look at Android's lack thereof. THAT is what Android needs-to actually FEEL faster, not necessarily BE faster. So try something like that if you want the phone to feel more fluid instead of just achieving raw benchmark speed. Again, just my opinion (kind of sad that I feel the need to put that disclaimer in every post lately).

Award Tour said:
Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
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that is interesting.. thanks for the info.
I hope it does open some more performance and maybe a way to overclock the GPU

Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.[/QUOTE said:
Lmao
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What's the point of overclocking???

Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?

bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.

bruceko86 said:
Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.

bruceko86 said:
Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain

It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.

If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).

Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth

Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.

Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.

here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.

I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!

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Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.

I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.

mputtr said:
For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.