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hey flipz how about another benchmark

how bout another benchmark for all these latest and greatest roms that claim to be too fast for class. so we know the truth once again

I agree
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No problem. I should have time to do it tomorrow.

flipzmode said:
No problem. I should have time to do it tomorrow.
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haha, awesome...

flipzmode said:
No problem. I should have time to do it tomorrow.
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wow awesome quick response too... i knew i liked u for some reason

Won't hardware benchmarks always be the same between all ROMs?
Is there a way to objectively benchmark resource management? Speed of the interface, opening apps etc.

i didnt see the last one but id like to see benchmarks like on te gsm roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656818
Also the following for benchmarking:
For 3D Performance
* Qualcomm's "NeoCore" 1.9.18 - Measured in FPS
For 2D Performance
* Softweg's "Benchmark" 1.03 - Measured by an internal score
* "Lag test" - Originally to measure 2D performance for Motorola Droid users. Measured in FPS
For CPU Performance
* Linpack for Android - Measured in MFLOPS
All of the tests mean: The higher, the better.
The method of testing was the usual flashing, a couple of reboots to make sure every caching necessary was done and the average of 3 benchmark of each test.
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Make sure to test Pancake 0.1! Still the fastest rom out there .

bikcmp said:
Still the fastest rom out there .
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I really liked your rom, but seriously....
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TrevE said:
i didnt see the last one but id like to see benchmarks like on te gsm roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656818
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http://geekfor.me/news/benchmarking-sprint21/
I'll add linpack to the list too.
bikcmp said:
Make sure to test Pancake 0.1! Still the fastest rom out there .
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And it's also 1.5 which makes it irrelevant for these tests.

Someone should come out with a rom, with JIT enabled.
Then they can claim they have the fastest rom.
I had it running on dc 2.7.2 without any problems.. Just cant use anything HTC, like lockscreen or sense.
But nexus or helix launcher and beautiful widgets, everything is normal again.

JIT is too buggy still, im looking foward to playing with compcache when someone gets 2.6.29 source working
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Compcache
thanks flipz just looked it over like the benchmark setup

TrevE said:
JIT is too buggy still, im looking foward to playing with compcache when someone gets 2.6.29 source working
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Compcache
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Yea. We had some goodies starting to go in the .27 kernel but then the 2.1 stuff became the main focus so it never got finished. Ha.

TrevE said:
JIT is too buggy still, im looking foward to playing with compcache when someone gets 2.6.29 source working
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Compcache
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I agree its not perfect.. But i can use it on my daily rom and run every app I would on a normal day without an issue.
Before dc 2.06 came out, i ran it on dc 2.05 for 3 days straight.'
I dont use bluetooth or some other random things. So it would probably start 101 problems for some people.. Like theres not enough already.

Over Clocking the Eris..anyone else seem to get stuck at 246mhz

Since I rooted my phone yesterday, I decided to try an overclocker. I was saddened to see that it never registered mine as overclocking. I am using the Over Clock Widget. My processor runns at 528 and no higher, even when I select 585 or 600. Not a huge deal after I saw what was happening.
When it runs at 528 it runs nice and smooth and after 60 seconds, even while using, it drops to 480. When my screen goes off and then I use my phone again the processor is at 246 and won't adjust back up unless I reset it in the Over Clock Widget.
My question is, do you think this is an error with the Over Clock Widget or a phone issue. The visual performance lag I get existed before the app install and even before I rooted it, because I ran the linpack for android and got 0.807 for my MFLOPS. Then I ran it when it was showing 528, I got a 2.294 MFLOPS. Has anyone else seen this behavior. I always thought it was memory issue with the phone and have always used a task killer to clear up memory and performance was better, but now that I see what seems to be going on with the processor, I don't think it was memory now. When I reset it to 528 this phone runs smooth but as soon as it clocks down, back to lag and slow response.
Is there another app that would be setting my processor down that I'm not aware of? My next step is to wipe and reset the phone and run the linpack test and see what happens. I wanted to get thoughts before i do this though. Sorry this is so long.

some one help this poor fellow out... you need to read some stuff before making posts like this

surgeon0214 said:
some one help this poor fellow out... you need to read some stuff before making posts like this
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I read alot! This is my first time trying to overclock so before purchasing a more than likely better over clocking app, I want to know if anyone else has seen this using other over clockers. I have read many people over clockign the Eris getting speeds of around 700mhz, but mine won't hit over 528 as mentioned.
The Original Eris Overclocking:THREAD HERE Didn't mention any of this if you might have been refering to that thread.
Was that menat to be helpfull. I searched all across XDA and found not notable information on this. I read what I could but nothing that mentions what I have described above. If you have a link that has some information on this issue, please post. Looking for some feedback though still.

During your overclocking search on xda, did you happen to come across the setCPU thread? The app that you have to pay for on the market that is free there for xda uers? Search setCPU.
Also, most roms are already oc'd @ 710 without any app at all to control it.

zwade01 said:
During your overclocking search on xda, did you happen to come across the setCPU thread? The app that you have to pay for on the market that is free there for xda uers? Search setCPU.
Also, most roms are already oc'd @ 710 without any app at all to control it.
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he's more than obviously running the stock 2.1 rooted with an oc widget!
relax, flame off boys.
if you want to overclock there are several roms that are set to overclock by default(easiest method)
or you could flash a new kernel if you want to stay stock(not so easy for a new guy method)
and then there is always the i want to know whats going on write my own kernel method(much less easy then any other method listed)
if you want the stock feel only with all the root perks try plain jane. and as for posting a new thread like this feel free to PM me at any time before putting yourself out on a limb for the boys to jump on you im glad to help anyone avoid catching the heat/ informing ANYBODY

Yep thanks for the response guys. I am running stock. Just freaked me out when I saw that ahppening. Thought I might have had a screwed up phone. I will PM next time Sj. Thanks..still reading though. SetCPU did bring up more than just using overclocking which pointed more towards kernel rewrites and custom roms.

HD2 SetCPU limits?

Hey everyone!
I was wondering...
So far, the HD2 in Android is able to run at a maximum of 1190Mhz. Is there a way to remove this limit and allow Android to increase the CPU clock frequency?
It'd be awesome to see what the Quadrant score would be if speeds of 1.3Ghz were used And Android would be blazing fast

Bump....isn't anyone as interested as I am?

No, in order to reach a higher clock speed the Kernal would have to be modified. But even then many other variables will also need to be considered. Vcore will need to be adjusted, and since at 1.2GHz it's already been increased they would have to increase it further in order not to hit a ceiling causing the CPU to become unstable under load.
Modifying code will also mean that other parts of the Kernal or OS might not play well together. Bugs can be created and would need to be fixed.
Sometimes even doing this will reduce performance rather than increasing. There is a reason why they havn't gone above that speed for now or ever.
Have a great day sir.

frankly saying just don't see the point of doing that. personally i wouldn't want my HD2 to smell like burnt chicken
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Bump....isn't anyone as interested as I am?
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Benchmark scores are ultimately pointless, unless all you want to do with your phone is have willy-waving competitions with other HD2 owners.
"My build get's 3 more points in Linpack than you" big fat hairy deal.
It makes no difference, the only thing that matters is whether your build is fast enough, stable enough, and that you are happy with it. Why melt your phone just to say you've got the highest score in a completely arbitrary set of tests?

Reno_79 said:
Benchmark scores are ultimately pointless, unless all you want to do with your phone is have willy-waving competitions with other HD2 owners.
"My build get's 3 more points in Linpack than you" big fat hairy deal.
It makes no difference, the only thing that matters is whether your build is fast enough, stable enough, and that you are happy with it. Why melt your phone just to say you've got the highest score in a completely arbitrary set of tests?
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LOL XD that was pretty funny.

Reno_79 said:
Benchmark scores are ultimately pointless, unless all you want to do with your phone is have willy-waving competitions with other HD2 owners.
"My build get's 3 more points in Linpack than you" big fat hairy deal.
It makes no difference, the only thing that matters is whether your build is fast enough, stable enough, and that you are happy with it. Why melt your phone just to say you've got the highest score in a completely arbitrary set of tests?
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*Linpack score of 7*
Time to pop the blue chip

Elemental_Fire said:
Hey everyone!
I was wondering...
So far, the HD2 in Android is able to run at a maximum of 1190Mhz. Is there a way to remove this limit and allow Android to increase the CPU clock frequency?
It'd be awesome to see what the Quadrant score would be if speeds of 1.3Ghz were used And Android would be blazing fast
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Search my kernel thread. I posted benchmarks at 1.3Ghz. There is really little point to it. I am back running at 1Ghz again.
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my leo only goes until 998mhz.. does anyone know why?

hastarin said:
Search my kernel thread. I posted benchmarks at 1.3Ghz. There is really little point to it. I am back running at 1Ghz again.
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I can validate this. I have been using many different kernels and for my money Hastarin's r8 (maximum cpu speed 998mhz) runs the smoothest and most stable, while giving me 6ma in standby (with 3G on).
Overclocked at 1.9ghz I saw some minor speed improvements but not really all that much and the battery drain was horrendous. Clock speed is overrated, there isn't really anything available on Android that requires more than 1ghz anyways. I have been playing IQ and Final Fantasy 8 with my wii remote on my current CM6 ROM with Hastarin's kernel and everything is smooth as butter.
Benchmark scores are useful to compare kernels and cpu governors, and I really only use Quadrant to look for big changes (+/- 200 points or more). I just updated from an Elbartome kernel to Hastarin r8 and saw an immediate 200 point Quadrant boost using an interactive governor at 1ghz and bettery battery drain.
The real differences are in the kernel, not the clock speed and as kernels get more and more efficient, you will see higher benchmarks from the same clock speed.
Remember that first Cotulla ROM we got on our HD2s in the very beginning? That was 1ghz and it ran like crap (actually amazing for a first ever port) compared to what we have now.
gianmich said:
my leo only goes until 998mhz.. does anyone know why?
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Again, it's the kernel you are using.
Has nothing to do with the phone, WinMo ROM, or Radio or anything.
All the ROMs in the dev section tell you which kernel they use. If they use Hastarin kernel you will not be able to OC it, I think everyone else uses an OC to 1190mhz kernel, so using their ROM or their kernel will give you the higher clock speed.

Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
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asphaltkiller said:
Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
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Pull your head in.
The OP asked a question and I answered it. I have run at 1.3 just fine but have chosen not to do so. Not everyone could of course. I have been lucky with my phone.
If you don't like my answer you're free to ignore it but there is no need for posts like yours.
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seems to me the ultimate kernel would be the r8 with undervolt under 1000 , and overvolt above 1000 to maintain sability .. i dun care about battery , i carry 2 with me

who on earth are you to tell others how to reply. the last time i checked your name was not in the list of moderators.
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Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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asphaltkiller said:
Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Did you happen to notice that out of every reply to this thread, yours was the least coherent and offered the least amount of useful information?
The one nugget of information you tried to give wasn't even accurate. It IS possible to release a 1.3ghz kernel, but one has not been publicly released because, as hastarin pointed out, it doesn't really improve performance.
hastarin is a kernel developer, he knows more about this stuff than any of us and I am sure the OP could use the information provided by him and all of us who actually use different kernels and either OC or don't.

Thanks everyone. While it is true that all I wanted to know was if it was possible, a little exra knowledge can't hurt anyone Hastarin, I use your kernel, and admit it's amazing! Guess I don't really need 1.3Ghz as long as the device runs smooth, right? Quadrant speeds aren't totally relevant but I like to show off sometimes, like we all do

so hastarin's kernel allow speed up to 998 mhz?

With respect, this guys post isn't the most coherant but he is French so let's not be too judgemental.
He's also got a point. He's not meaning everyone, especially not hastarin, but posts #4, 5, 6 and 7 are pointless, uninformative and even wrong.
I'm not a big one for philosophy but Plato said "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something". People should just stick to posting in threads that they can usefully contribute to.
I hope this post contributes in the way of reminding people that the post counter is not a measure of intelligence, experience or forum standing.
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Why you guyz give this type of answer he didn t ask if you were agree to overclok just if it would be possible to overclock more that 1190 stop stupid answers we dont give a sh** if you think overclocking is useless just dont reply....
To answer: i ve see dev hd2 running 1323mhz but wasn t stable enough. Impossible to released the kernel as the increase of Vcore was causing excessive hotness and autoshutdown
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Lol yeah, he was helping out...which he did Anyways enough of the flaming lol!
Hastarin, could you inbox me? Need to talk

Elemental_Fire said:
Lol yeah, he was helping out...which he did Anyways enough of the flaming lol!
Hastarin, could you inbox me? Need to talk
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Feel free to send me a PM but I am about to head out for most of the day so don't expect a prompt reply.
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Quadrant standard scores! OC atrix!

Anyone else getting 3550 and above on quadrant standard overclocked to 1.1 ghz?
This is kp's rom.
UPDATE: Now im getting around 4200 on cm7 prebeta 2 with the built in oc and it feels alot smoother!

No! My highest was 303x!

My highest is always ~2900

3600 here faux and custom hack system
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4700, and only running one core!

TechnoNeto said:
Anyone else getting 3550 and above on quadrant standard overclocked to 1.1 ghz?
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Sadly on stock when I first got the phone I would get over 4000 but now with GB and a 1.1 overclock I only get up to 3600. Is it really that far off on performance because it isn't a final build or is the final build going to be like this?

How is it you were getting 4000 or 4700 on quadrant standard?

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Sadly on stock when I first got the phone I would get over 4000 but now with GB and a 1.1 overclock I only get up to 3600. Is it really that far off on performance because it isn't a final build or is the final build going to be like this?
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it is in beta so we could still see much improvement also you were getting that on quadrant or antutu?

mramirezusa said:
3600 here faux and custom hack system
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same as me is it saying that you are oc to 1.2 as mine does?

J-man67 said:
No! My highest was 303x!
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make sure you have set cpu to 1.1 min and max

hey guys, big news! benchmarks don't mean anything in reality.

my best "In Use" score is 3196. by in use I mean I have all the programs running I would have normally so I got a lot of junk running in the background. I have yet to kill everything and see what I can get with that.

dLo GSR said:
hey guys, big news! benchmarks don't mean anything in reality.
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You felt the need to express this why? This wasn't in the Q&A section as do benchmarks mean anything. It's a post about your scores not about people trying to prove their tech hierarchy.

dLo GSR said:
hey guys, big news! benchmarks don't mean anything in reality.
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Neither do 1/4 mile or 0 to 60 times, but they are fun to throw around.

I got a 3600 "in-use" benchmark, with max and min set to 1.1. With max at 1.1 and min still at .2, I still got 3200, which is not bad.
You seriously got 4000+ while on the phone's original stock system and everything??
Mine feels so much faster and snappier now on GB with the faux kernel and everything..

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Neither do 1/4 mile or 0 to 60 times, but they are fun to throw around.
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very true and in response to first post i get around 3330+ with most of my apps going but i have both min and max set to highest in set cpu

As does mine feel faster on gingerbread

Tao_Man said:
my best "In Use" score is 3196. by in use I mean I have all the programs running I would have normally so I got a lot of junk running in the background. I have yet to kill everything and see what I can get with that.
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That's the way I test also. I'm around 3000 with all the normal apps running that I leave running and min and max CPU speeds kept where I use them. It feels very smooth!

I have an atrix benchmark thread!
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i can't seem to pass 2800 running stock

Overclocking snapdragon 800.

So I was wondering about the truth behind the risks of frying your cpu through overclocking or the chip itself degrading faster over time, and if there are such risks do they apply to a simple 2.5 ghz overclocking ?

There isn't any risk like that, unless you are using extremely high voltage, or are at terribly hot place.
I have tested all the overclockable kernels, and haven't found a single one which is steady at 2.6 or 2.8 GHz. Only Faux's kernel at 2490 MHz is stable.
Don't be scared, there's no risk.
PS: I personally use Performance governor by the way, so the CPU is always at max frequency, against all advice I keep using that for past three years, never had a problem, and you can understand where I live the temperature reaches extremely high in summer, so...

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There isn't any risk like that, unless you are using extremely high voltage, or are at terribly hot place.
I have tested all the overclockable kernels, and haven't found a single one which is steady at 2.6 or 2.8 GHz. Only Faux's kernel at 2490 MHz is stable.
Don't be scared, there's no risk.
PS: I personally use Performance governor by the way, so the CPU is always at max frequency, against all advice I keep using that for past three years, never had a problem, and you can understand where I live the temperature reaches extremely high in summer, so...
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That's actually comforting I too am using fauxclock and I live in Egypt so the temperature gets pretty high here, but I'm constantly monitoring the cpu's temperature so I will give the 2.5 ghz overclock a try for a while and see how it goes.

MohamedOMostafa said:
That's actually comforting I too am using fauxclock and I live in Egypt so the temperature gets pretty high here, but I'm constantly monitoring the cpu's temperature so I will give the 2.5 ghz overclock a try for a while and see how it goes.
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Yeah do that. Just to see if the OC is stable run that damn Antutu benchmark. If the device doesn't reboot/stuck then OC is stable
Best of luck.

devilsdouble said:
Yeah do that. Just to see if the OC is stable run that damn Antutu benchmark. If the device doesn't reboot/stuck then OC is stable
Best of luck.
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That's the first thing I did actually

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That's the first thing I did actually
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Ha ha. Good. That's on Faux right? I got almost same score (44.7k) when I was checking.
Now if you want more then flash one of those 2.6 or 2.8 GHz kernels, and do the test, and message me if Antutu finishes the benchmark even once

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Ha ha. Good. That's on Faux right? I got almost same score (44.7k) when I was checking.
Now if you want more then flash one of those 2.6 or 2.8 GHz kernels, and do the test, and message me if Antutu finishes the benchmark even once
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will do.

If you want higher you should try out Ultimate Kernel. Although it is removed from XDA, you can still find it on some foreign language site. It's the highest and most stable OC kernel I have used (3.0GHz).

Graffiti Exploit said:
If you want higher you should try out Ultimate Kernel. Although it is removed from XDA, you can still find it on some foreign language site. It's the highest and most stable OC kernel I have used (3.0GHz).
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3.0 GHz
any benchmark screenshots ??

Graffiti Exploit said:
If you want higher you should try out Ultimate Kernel. Although it is removed from XDA, you can still find it on some foreign language site. It's the highest and most stable OC kernel I have used (3.0GHz).
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Hmm, just found the topic, and it's mentioned that the topic was close due to non-compliance with the GNU GPLv2 and XDA forum rules, now what's the former thing?
Anyone has the latest version, if it's still updated outside XDA? Want to try it.

djak272 said:
3.0 GHz
any benchmark screenshots ??
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Sorry cleaned up my screenshots folder as it was taking up a lot of space. Besides Antutu has been constantly getting updates so it may not be accurate.
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Hmm, just found the topic, and it's mentioned that the topic was close due to non-compliance with the GNU GPLv2 and XDA forum rules, now what's the former thing?
Anyone has the latest version, if it's still updated outside XDA? Want to try it.
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I don't know if this is allowed but here it is.
v72
http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...ernel-kitkat-tw-only-ultimate-kernel-v72.html
v73
https://www.androidsource.club/foru...kernel-ultimate-kernel-v73-galaxy-note-3.html
Last one I used was v63. So do test it out more because I cannot vouch for the updates. But based from experience, I have never gotten an unstable update from that kernel.

Graffiti Exploit said:
Sorry cleaned up my screenshots folder as it was taking up a lot of space. Besides Antutu has been constantly getting updates so it may not be accurate.
I don't know if this is allowed but here it is.
v72
http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...ernel-kitkat-tw-only-ultimate-kernel-v72.html
v73
https://www.androidsource.club/foru...kernel-ultimate-kernel-v73-galaxy-note-3.html
Last one I used was v63. So do test it out more because I cannot vouch for the updates. But based from experience, I have never gotten an unstable update from that kernel.
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Thanks a lot for the link mate. Downloaded and flashed v73, but I can't get it past the stock clock rate of 2265 MHz! I mean I have tried to set higher frequency than that in S Tweaks, even downloaded Trickstar, SetCPU, but the it'd just stuck at 2265 MHz! I can go lower than 2265 but not higher! Weird!

devilsdouble said:
Thanks a lot for the link mate. Downloaded and flashed v73, but I can't get it past the stock clock rate of 2265 MHz! I mean I have tried to set higher frequency than that in S Tweaks, even downloaded Trickstar, SetCPU, but the it'd just stuck at 2265 MHz! I can go lower than 2265 but not higher! Weird!
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I think it comes with 2 apps for customization. You apply frequency on the first one and open the other and select apply changes. I'm not sure if it was this kernel or was it AEL. Lol. Anyways good luck. Maybe your ROM doesn't support a certain "stuff". I'm sorry but I really forgot about those terminologies. You can read up on the closed thread if you want. I'm sure you'll have a clue or on that link I gave you. *Google Translate ftw*