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Hi All,
I have been experiencing poor battery life with my N1 - until I stumbled across the issue.
Now I am trying to figure out how to fix the issue.
Basically; I have 3 email accounts setup (1 push to corporate exchange and 2 pop3 accounts).
What I have noticed is that randomly the email accounts will fail to receive emails and when going into the email app the loading circle (or whatever it is called) just spins and spins indefintely. This obviously results in usage of the phone (i.e. not sleeping) and the phone heats up and battery goes down v.quickly.
Now, I know I have sufficient network coverage as I am able to surf and use other network required programs - so it does not appear to be due to not being able to get a data connection.
Has anyone come across this issue before?
yeah I have this issue too... its pretty annoying.
Ok thats comforting...sort of. Atleast it is not specific to me then. Sounds like a bug?
What do you do about it?
i have a similar issue...my pop mail...just wont receive email...it looks, and stops...but no email...its not draining my batt btw
Slightly different in that mine looks and looks and looks and just keeps doing so - until it has drained by battery as best it can. Most of the time I have realised as the phone gets hot due to not sleeping. So I can kill it off.
Quite annoying however. As email is fundamental program with these types of phones.
Is there somewhere on Googles site where we I can inform them of this issue?
I discussed this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713392&page=7
If you are an Exchange Push user on Froyo experiencing significant battery drain and frequent if not constant 3G connection I found that you must turn Push Off and then back On.
This resolved the rapid battery drain and constant 3G connection issue I experienced. Just for your information.
I think this was a result of the Update rather than Fresh Install, it accompanied many settings I had to re-do.
Exchange - I take it back. Resetting exchange did not fix my issue. On Eclair, the push email would not keep the network always connected. On Froyo exchange push is running the CPU at 20% constantly and keeping 3G connection going.
Not sure how to stop that, but it only occurs when I turn on Push. And this definitely was not here before. Thanks to this my battery goes from Full to gone in a few hours. I have since turned off push email.
snlu178 said:
Exchange - I take it back. Resetting exchange did not fix my issue. On Eclair, the push email would not keep the network always connected. On Froyo exchange push is running the CPU at 20% constantly and keeping 3G connection going.
Not sure how to stop that, but it only occurs when I turn on Push. And this definitely was not here before. Thanks to this my battery goes from Full to gone in a few hours. I have since turned off push email.
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This happened periodically on Eclair for me as well - just "clear data" for the email app and set the exchange server up again. Seems to fix it when it creeps up from time to time.
On a side note battery life w/push on Froyo has been better so far. With 2 push accounts I am now losing < 1% / hr when sitting idle (overnight). On Eclair it was just shy of 2% so this was a nice improvement.
I have now done a full factory restore and reinput the Exchange Push account information.
It is still at 17% CPU usage and keeps the 3G connection on constantly.
This simply did not happen before, and is draining my battery rapidly.
Update:
As if to prove my point again, once I set the email from Push to Pull every 15 minutes the CPU load dropped down to 0% and the 3G connection stopped cycling. Not sure why this is happening. Is anyone else noticing that Push keeps 3G constantly active and phone runs really hot?
SO FRUSTRATED!
Please someone else tell me they are experiencing this with Froyo Exchange.
I am not able to stop exchange from cycling 3G and Email runs a huge CPU percentage and the phone heats up continually until the battery dies.
Is anyone else on exchange seeing this problem????
Hello All -
I know I continue to post on this but I am really hoping some of you that are smarter than me can help me out.
On 2.1 - Exchange would get can email, my 3G arrows would cycle, the email would show up. That is all.
On 2.2 - Exchange does not get email, 3G arrows ALWAYS cycle and the cpu is running constantly. The phone last night was over 100 degrees.
To experiment, I installed Touchdown. Exchange works perfectly. No 3G or CPU issues. It does not constantly sync.
A few items I noticed:
1) SyncManager for Email is the culprit and causing the problems
2) My corporate email is ActiveSync or MS Exchange 2007
3) I have read elsewhere that this is Exchange constantly trying to check the server and it gets stuck in a loop.
Please friends, this is going to cause me to have to give up my phone. I dont want that. I want my native Exchange to work. Any ideas at all?
I'm having another issue (and it's being tracked on android official support board)..
Whenever I use PUSH for exchange, it works fine. Yeah it keeps connection alive, but doesn't really use the battery that much.
However, if I switch from PUSH to some interval (5, 10 minutes, etc), sync manager gets stuck. It'll eat up 50% CPU CONSTANTLY until battery is dead. Switching back to PUSH fixes it immediately.
Google assigned an engineer to this problem, but nothing yet.
DarkDvr said:
I'm having another issue (and it's being tracked on android official support board)..
Whenever I use PUSH for exchange, it works fine. Yeah it keeps connection alive, but doesn't really use the battery that much.
However, if I switch from PUSH to some interval (5, 10 minutes, etc), sync manager gets stuck. It'll eat up 50% CPU CONSTANTLY until battery is dead. Switching back to PUSH fixes it immediately.
Google assigned an engineer to this problem, but nothing yet.
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Do you have the link to the tracking of this? I think this is the same thing happening to me, SyncManager getting stuck and just running up the process until the phone dies.
snlu178 said:
Do you have the link to the tracking of this? I think this is the same thing happening to me, SyncManager getting stuck and just running up the process until the phone dies.
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Hmm.. strange, I can't find it now.. Last time I checked it, first 2.2 was released.
Maybe it's fixed and closed now? I've enabled 10-minute sync in my exchange, I'll see if it still gets stuck in FRF82.
I wonder if any smart network Dev out there can tell us why SyncManager is getting stuck trying to work with our Exchange Servers?
Ok Friends Help me out with this.
I installed OS Monitor.
With my exchange running it says:
"07/01/2010 13:07:27 [DEBUG]
NativeCrypto915860
Freeing Open SSL session"
07/01/2010 13:07:51 [DEBUG]
dalvikvm915860
GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 7078 objects / 511984
bytes in 71ms
It repeats the OpenSSL ever second or less and the GC every 6 seconds. It never stops.
snlu178 said:
Ok Friends Help me out with this.
I installed OS Monitor.
With my exchange running it says:
"07/01/2010 13:07:27 [DEBUG]
NativeCrypto915860
Freeing Open SSL session"
07/01/2010 13:07:51 [DEBUG]
dalvikvm915860
GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 7078 objects / 511984
bytes in 71ms
It repeats the OpenSSL ever second or less and the GC every 6 seconds. It never stops.
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Bump....installed FRF91, no fix.
Anyone know what is going on with this? Is this a server or OS issue? Could it be a bad install somewhere?
DarkDvr said:
Hmm.. strange, I can't find it now.. Last time I checked it, first 2.2 was released.
Maybe it's fixed and closed now? I've enabled 10-minute sync in my exchange, I'll see if it still gets stuck in FRF82.
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Update: almost all day on 10-minute update with Exchange (and I barely have any reception here, goes from 0 bars to 2 bars and back).. sync is NOT using up CPU at all, and mail is working fine. Looks like it's fixed?
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Update: almost all day on 10-minute update with Exchange (and I barely have any reception here, goes from 0 bars to 2 bars and back).. sync is NOT using up CPU at all, and mail is working fine. Looks like it's fixed?
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After much hassle I think my issue now has to do with my IT having self-signed certificates rather than purchasing them. This means they would have to update it to work with whatever Froyo did in exchange security. I think this is why it works initially then goes into a loop of OpenSSL attempts.
This is my only guessing from half-truths and limited understanding of the series of tubes.
I would really appreciate anyone out that understands this stuff chiming in on what is going on?
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9455
got a google code issue going in case anyone else runs up against this openssl infinite loop.
I am having both issues. When I use push, the phone stays warm and the battery drains in a few hours. If I switch from push to poll, no improvement - but if I reboot with poll setting, it works fine.
My company uses Active Sync with Exchange 2003 and I doubt we would use self-signed certs.
By the way I am running 2.2 on a G1 with Cyanogen ROM.
I have a funny issue with my exchange. When i get a new mail, i get a notification on my N1. But even after i have read that email on my PC.The notification doesnt go away .... and when i check my phone after some time i think i have recieved a new email but its only notification of old one .... is there a workaround for that guys ?
Cheers
Nice thread hijack
I have an Exchange 2010 server setup with a non-trusted cert from CAcert.org and don't have that issue using Push on Froyo.
I assume you enabled the option "Accept all SSL certificates" when configuring the account?
I did in fact "accept all" and I have been working with many google developers as of last week to figure out what is going on.
It is not actually IT, it seems it is an OS issue as more and more people are seeing this issue come up.
P.S. to the notification comment above, that is normal. dont hijack my thread.
Forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong place but this is all very new to me. I recently flashed my phone to 2.2 and some strange things have been happening. I have two examples I would like to share which both have the same outcome. Trying to import a book into aldiko from the sd card ends in the program being force closed. The phone vibrates once, pauses a few seconds, vibrates three times and then the error message comes up. The second example is pretty much the exact same except it happens when trying to launch a game with psx4droid. One vibration, pause, three vibrations, program closes. Both of these programs worked without issue prior to the change in OS. Could anyone suggest any reasons and solutions to the situation? I was on the last chapter of an amazing book. Thanks in advance,
Gino.
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yep doing it to me too, not very often, it was happening a lot at first, but i did a factory reset and it cleared up a lot of them.
I dis one factory reset with no result.should I just keep trying til it goes away?
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This has been happening to myself and my partner's Samsung Galaxy S since we upgraded to the official UK Froyo update. Just about any app can crash with the vibrate, pause, 3 vibrates. While mine is rooted with z4root and I have a ton of stuff on it, my partner's is not rooted and only runs some very basic apps.
Did you update through Kies? What version of FroYo are you on?
Try to uninstall the apps, download them and reinstall. Also, using the Kies Registry Patcher, see if Kies will flash the stock 2.2 ROM. All stock ROMs can be found here.
Follow these steps
Ian
Updated with Kies to Froyo (JPO) a month or two ago. I notice JPY is now available through Kies so currently trying that.
I had tried installing/uninstalling apps previously, but according to logcat just about any process can crash with this vibrate pulse, pause, three pulses issue. I've had System, acore, TWL, Market, Gmail, the browser (stock and Dolphin HD), etc. These aren't the normal force closes either. The logs show them as SIGBUS or SIGILL (no K, not SIGKILL) errors, which normally mean a hardware fault, but, given so many people are having the problem after updating to FroYo, and given it's happening on two phones I'm in possession of personally, I'm sure it's related to the FroYo update.
Well, since updating to JPY 6 hours ago I've had zero crashes and the phone seems far more responsive and faster. My quadrant score has increased by around 20%.
There were a number of things that would nearly always crash the phone in the way I described previously - such as updating more than 2 or 3 apps at the same time, rapidly scrolling around certain websites, etc. I updated 10 apps simultaneously, I've gone to all of the websites that would crash the browser, and tried a whole load of other things that were "high risk" on JPO. Zero crashes.
If the phone does crash in the next week or two I will come back and mention it here. But so far, it looks great.
We took a Froyo update and the phone is now no longer able to accept incoming calls or texts when ANY other web-using application is running, e.g. you open the Facebook app and leave it running in the background so you can get notifications from FB and you can't receive any calls or texts until you have shut down FB. You open a browser, you can't receive any calls or texts until you shut down the browser!
Not even sure how to report this as a problem because all the websites we are directed to seem to be FAQs for people who have never seen a phone before. Any recommendations so we can return to the use of phone calls? For the next week or so we have only pay as you surf mobile broadband and no Kies, which resticts things somewhat, but is there anything we can do right away? What about when we get back to a full net connection and Kies? Where do we even report this error, as everyone seems to be having a different type of error with this update, and we'd like to make sure they know about this one, a smartphone that doesn't receive phone calls unless you turn everything else off is a little pointless!
Incidentally, site designers, any chance you could put some text descriptions for your button images? I loaded this site with no pictures and it doesn't come up saying where the reply buttons and such are located like it does when you have alternative text. If people use screenreaders (e.g. blind people like many of my friends) they cannot navigate this site without these. Cheers!
I've tested this and it works fine for me.
Are you sure this isn't just the limitation that's present on ALL GSM networks whereby if you're on 2G (i.e. not WiFi or 3G) then you can only have either a data connection OR a voice call? 2G only supports one type of connection at a time. If you're using data and want to make/receive calls you must use either 3G or WiFi.
The phone is definitely showing 3G as the connection type, and we have two phones on the same network in the same room and only the Froyo one has this problem, which it has never had before. Even in areas where the connection type is showing as HSDPA (never get those letters in the correct order!) it is impossible to get any kind of incoming call when a web application is open. It also applies to applications which are open but not currently using data. Not sure if they use data in a background kind of a way, but if you open a browser and load e.g. Google and after it is fully loaded attempt to call that phone you still get the answerphone. You can only get a phone call if all apps which might potentially use a web connection are shut down. Renders every aspect of the phone useless because you have to shut off Facebook, all browsers, email, weather updates, news feeds... basically everything, just in case you might potentially receive a telephone call.
We had 2 T-mobile phones on Windows Mobile in this same room and neither of those has this problem either. The phones are 2x HTC TYTNII (Tmobile MDA Vario 3) and 1x HTC Wildfire with Android 2.1 which all work and one Samsung Galaxy S on Android 2.2 which worked (in terms of being able to get calls with web apps loaded) up until 2.2 was loaded.
Well, that's very strange. All I can say is that my SGS and my partner's SGS, both were running 2.2 for a couple of months, and now both running 2.2.1 have been fine. I tested both again just now and I can make/receive calls fine on both even while actively using the browser.
Anyone have problems connnecting to gtalk? It takes countless retries and forever to connect to gtalk after a phone call, switch to and from 4G, and switch to and from wifi. I know it takes some time to connect to the server through a different connection etc. but everything else works (market, gmail, maps, anything that requires internet). It sometimes take up to 2 minutes to connect to gtalk. I've tried stopping and restarting the service and nothing. This is a real problem for me because 95% of my texting is through gtalk and it's annoying to have to wait so long after I switch to wifi, 4G, or receive a call. People on Verizon don't seem to suffer from this even though they use CDMA too. Gtalk connects almost instantly.
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I have the same issue, no idea what the problem is and no luck with responses it seems
I think this is something on googles side.
My gtalk will sometimes refuse to connect no matter how many times I restart it.
If you close the application and restart it, it might help, but otherwise just give it some time and try to sign in.
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YES!! mine has the same problem..... hate it... it's so inconvenient for me..
it better be fixed soon.
I switched from the EVO a week or so ago. I never had ANY issues with gtalk on either CM6 or stock sense. On the Epic I'm noticing some weirdness. I haven't had any issues as far as connecting taking a long time, but I do notice that I'm getting random disconnects. I think it may have something to do with us still being on 2.1. That's just a guess though.
The gtalk service seems to be rather flakey. I'm not sure what's the cause, but I just sign out and sign back in until it works.
After two days of use I must say that the Sync/update feature is very bad and I think it is one of the main reason for the battery to die quickly.
My phone is always try to sync something, and it is very laggy when in this state. The worst is facebook for HTC that takes 30 min every time to sync only the contacts. And this happen everytime.
Then even gmail sync is painful with my calendar always getting stuck. On my Nexus one those thing were ultra fast, I could not remeber seeing the update circle in the notification area for more than 3 second. Now my phone is constantly in this mode and uses a lot of resources for doing so.
And Yes, I turned all the update time to the maxium possible, like once per day, but it still doing its fu****ng things.
I HATE IT. I disable Facebook sync for contacts, any back fire for doing so?
Anyway I REALLY WANT TO USE THE STOCK ANDROID OVER NASTY SENSE... Is it possible, can I have vannilla back?