[CLOSED/G2] Discussion on GPU - G2 and Desire Z General

I've read on Androidandme.com that the MSM7X30 will be coupled with the adreno 205
Quote :"The new Adreno 205 offers about 4x the graphics performance of the previous Snapdragon (Adreno 200), which is around the equivalent of a PowerVR SGX535"
http://androidandme.com/2010/08/new...ot-a-little-bit-faster-msm7230-cpu-confirmed/
Is this to be expected or are reports the reports of using the old Adreno 200 correct?
Either way very excited for new T-mobile hardware with a keyboard

Check this out
Check out what AndroidSPIN says about it

comparison of the 200 in current snapdragons and the new 205

Crap, might have to wait for this. I know it will be popular! I can't image anything in 3D on this.

i hope im wrong but it looks like the cpu wont be operating at 1ghz

souljaboy said:
i hope im wrong but it looks like the cpu wont be operating at 1ghz
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Information I'm getting is its 1ghz, with an on-board Adreno 205 GPU.
But nothing is confirmed yet, so who knows.

hopefully some sources can leak us some official specs soon and we can find out what this puppy does. i will talk to my htc friend and see what he can find out for us

Im also seeing official Price of $199 with 2yr contract, $499 without.

yeah, you can see at the top of the pic on tmonews that the page was meant for internal use so i would suspect that to be the final answer on price, and as far as the specs we have so far 500 seems to be a fair price compared to some other phones

@tubaking, i hope you don't mind, but i absolutely HAD to steal you Greatest Video Ever link from your sig and incorporate it into mine.
I'm sorry but i just HAD TO!

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@tubaking, i hope you don't mind, but i absolutely HAD to steal you Greatest Video Ever link from your sig and incorporate it into mine.
I'm sorry but i just HAD TO!
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have at it, i found it posted elsewhere on XDA

http://t-mobilescoop.com/HSPADEVICE
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So one question, didnt Google say that Gingerbread will only work on 1ghz cpus? Does that mean that the G2 wouldnt get Gingerbread?

those specs have been debunked, and this should be better than having faster CPU since we have great GPU

Plus, we'll be able to OC this baby to 1 GHZ or more anyways. This is gonna be awesome! I kind of wish I hadn't gotten the MTS now. Well, I got it when it first came and G1 was on its last figurative leg anyways. At the time, I had no idea the G2 would be coming out 3 months later. Oh well, I'll end up selling this one or keep it as a backup...

Very interesting... This could be a noob question but do you think you could overclock a gpu for better graphics performance...?
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I keep telling myself that it will perform better but I can't convince myself that that's enough...

Gingerbread min reqs?
Someone above said the 1ghz processor requirement for gingerbread (NOT overclocked to 1ghz) is debunked. Where? Is that official? Would be blasphemy to release the G2 without adequate specs to get gingerbread...

kalipedia said:
Someone above said the 1ghz processor requirement for gingerbread (NOT overclocked to 1ghz) is debunked. Where? Is that official? Would be blasphemy to release the G2 without adequate specs to get gingerbread...
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absolutely no way that either htc or t-mobile would release an android phone that is not upgradeable to the next iteration of the OS.

kalipedia said:
Someone above said the 1ghz processor requirement for gingerbread (NOT overclocked to 1ghz) is debunked. Where? Is that official? Would be blasphemy to release the G2 without adequate specs to get gingerbread...
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It was debunked by Google themselves. It was only the suggested clock speed.
http://gizmodo.com/5578055/android-gingerbread-rumors-dismissed-by-google-on-twitter

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[CLOSED/G2] G2 vs mytouch HD

after reading the processor specs on the mytouch HD (dual core 1ghz) im thinking the g2's processor is already long in the tooth and it hasnt even been released yet!
What do you guys think?
Also, wtf does the g2 look like in the back, I have yet to see any pics of its rear. whats so secret about it, I hope theyre hiding something big.
I really wanted to early adopt the g2 on day 1, but after hearing about the processor the mytouch HD will be packing, I may just wait. For a while..... I want something thatll keep me happy for a year that packs a qwerty
Check engadget for the pics of the back. I cant post the links because im new And im not sure how current/accurate that leak is. All of Qualcomm dual core processors were delayed. Wont see them in phones until next yr. Supposedly the MTHD is to be released in Nov. Something isnt right. We will soon find out
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Check engadget for the pics of the back. I cant post the links because im new And im not sure how current/accurate that leak is. All of Qualcomm dual core processors were delayed. Wont see them in phones until next yr. Supposedly the MTHD is to be released in Nov. Something isnt right. We will soon find out
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i looked there and at gizmodo and cant find any rear pics.
your right something isnt right at all, in a few months the hd3 will be released with a dual core as well. im starting to think that the mytouch hd and hd3 are packing dual core tegra 2 processors. to my knowledge, those processors have been ready to be dropped into devices for a while now. The dual core arms and quallcomms arnt ready if i recall.
Go to engadget. Click on the latest article about the G2. Click the G2 tag and click the article that says "T-Mobile G2 again, this time with less Mr. Blurrycam." I need to rank up so i can post links lol
i sifted through the internets and found out that the mytouch hd is indeed running on the tegra2 processor. the processor is a soc with 2 A9 cores; each at 1ghz.
in regards to the hd3, im reading that its a dual core 1.5ghz, and that its a single core 1.5ghz.... still alot of speculation. regardless.... its gonna be an interesting 4th quarter.
if the mytouch hd wasnt so ugly id look past the fact that it was missing a keyboard.
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Go to engadget. Click on the latest article about the G2. Click the G2 tag and click the article that says "T-Mobile G2 again, this time with less Mr. Blurrycam." I need to rank up so i can post links lol
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thanks for the directions, I just saw it.
it appears to be a brushed aluminum rear with maybe a noise cancellation microphone.
Yea is looks really nice. It doesnt look cheap and plasticy. Im still getting it over the MTHD. I cant wait. Will be rooting my first phone. Im a noob.
sheek360 said:
i sifted through the internets and found out that the mytouch hd is indeed running on the tegra2 processor. the processor is a soc with 2 A9 cores; each at 1ghz.
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wait, where did you see this?
The MyTouch HD is made by HTC which mostly use Qualcomm chipsets. That article is very fishy. That whole dual processor thing is missleading, it could mean anything. In fact the G2 is a "dual processer" phone. The G2 has a cpu and gpu. I say just wait and see, this just don't seem right.
P.S. I have not read anywhere that has stated it is a tegra 2 chipset, pls provide link!
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The MyTouch HD is made by HTC which mostly use Qualcomm chipsets. That article is very fishy. That whole dual processor thing is missleading, it could mean anything. In fact the G2 is a "dual processer" phone. The G2 has a cpu and gpu. I say just wait and see, this just don't seem right.
P.S. I have not read anywhere that has stated it is a tegra 2 chipset, pls provide link!
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can't agree more!
smooth3d said:
The MyTouch HD is made by HTC which mostly use Qualcomm chipsets. That article is very fishy. That whole dual processor thing is missleading, it could mean anything. In fact the G2 is a "dual processer" phone. The G2 has a cpu and gpu. I say just wait and see, this just don't seem right.
P.S. I have not read anywhere that has stated it is a tegra 2 chipset, pls provide link!
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http://androidandme.com/2010/09/news/t-mobile-mytouch-hd-first-dual-core-android-phone-on-4g/
I posted the link. But lets remember these could all be rumors.
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http://androidandme.com/2010/09/news/t-mobile-mytouch-hd-first-dual-core-android-phone-on-4g/
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Yea read that too, that just that authors opinion, there is no evidence to back up his statements. If I had to guess the Mytouch HD will use a 1 ghz version of the G2 chipset since its technically a "dual processor" chipset too.
I'm skeptical of this. 1st of all, the mytouch was never a high-end brand. so it seems strange to me that they would all of the sudden use that brand as one of the first ever dual-core phones. 2nd of all, I don't see HTC moving away from qualcomm just yet, but I could be wrong. and lastly, there's something weird about that leaked TMO promo. the writing seems very amateurish to me. but thats all speculation on my part.
Keyword "dual processor" not dual "core" processor. There's a difference. Dual processor is what the G2 and Galaxy S feature; a separate unit for the CPU and GPU. Qualcomm does not make 1Ghz dual core chips.
Also, think about this. Why would T Mobile put a state of the art dual core processor in their teenage MyTouch line, but not in their business power house G2 with "The Google Experience"?
People are threatening to not purchase the G2, or ultimately leave T Mobile for their reluctancy to release a powerful business phone.
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Thanks for making me see this in another light.
Isn't the snap dragon a dual core as well?! As in seperate CPU n gpu?
the doc references America's largest "4G" network, T-Mobile never ever ever fricking ever refers to HSPA+ as "4G
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the doc references America's largest "4G" network, T-Mobile never ever ever fricking ever refers to HSPA+ as "4G
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The more I look at it, the more I lean towards it being fake. SO many things wrong. Oh well. Time will tell. Isnt that tagline from Sprint???
Arcadia310 said:
Keyword "dual processor" not dual "core" processor. There's a difference. Dual processor is what the G2 and Galaxy S feature; a separate unit for the CPU and GPU. Qualcomm does not make 1Ghz dual core chips.
Also, think about this. Why would T Mobile put a state of the art dual core processor in their teenage MyTouch line, but not in their business power house G2 with "The Google Experience"?
People are threatening to not purchase the G2, or ultimately leave T Mobile for their reluctancy to release a powerful business phone.
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wow you are speaking logic and truth. i see things in a differant light also
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/08/qualcomm-1-5ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-devices-to-arrive-at-end-o/
dual-cores aren't coming this year unfortunately..and I'm pretty sure that when they land, it'll be for phones without QWERTY. I think manufacturers milk the market with touch-only phones with latest tech, before releasing the more 'professional' QWERTY equipped phones. Just look at the time it took for HTC to release another QWERTY android.
So in my books, it's either G-2 or Milestone 2 at this point in time....of course, we'll have to wait for HTC's announcement on the 15th Sept. and hope that they shed some more information!

Evo 2

Don't remember the thread but a while back some guy here said the evo 2 would be out by the end of the year and everybody said he was stupid well I guess he was right
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lolwut? There is no EVO 2.
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Don't remember the thread but a while back some guy here said the evo 2 would be out by the end of the year and everybody said he was stupid well I guess he was right
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It's just a Desire Z renamed as the EVO Shift to ride off of the EVO's marketing. Wouldn't exactly call it the EVO 2.
Evo shift
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I wouldn't either but when someone says there is an evo 2 coming out months before everyone hears about it and the phone says evo the dude is right
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I wouldn't either but when someone says there is an evo 2 coming out months before everyone hears about it and the phone says evo the dude is right
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God damn I hate this thank you button, anyway I was trying to reply and I hit the thank you button by accident.
Anyway, I bet you that by the end of 2011 there will be an evo 2 and I bet that by the end of 2012 there will be an evo 3. My point is anyone can make a broad generalization, its all about the specifics. Now if the person said 5 months ago that it will have a slide out keyboard with a 3.6" screen with a 2nd gen snapdragon running 800mhz then thats different.
Related question...does anyone have any idea what Sprint devices will be out in early June 2011 when us launch day people will be eligible for upgrade? Seems like we knew about the EVO/supersonic for months and months before release. I wouldn't mind a 4G tablet...
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I wouldn't either but when someone says there is an evo 2 coming out months before everyone hears about it and the phone says evo the dude is right
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What? Can you not read? It's not the EVO 2. It's just a different model with a slide out keyboard, and no hardware improvements at all. In fact, it's the opposite of a hardware improvement; it's got an 800MHz processor.
The EVO 2 will probably have a dual-core and better GPU to fit the requirements of 3.0
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Related question...does anyone have any idea what Sprint devices will be out in early June 2011 when us launch day people will be eligible for upgrade? Seems like we knew about the EVO/supersonic for months and months before release. I wouldn't mind a 4G tablet...
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Your guess is as good as anyone elses.
evo shift is not the evo 2, is like saying the droid incredible was the droid 2??? no pfff,
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What? Can you not read? It's not the EVO 2. It's just a different model with a slide out keyboard, and no hardware improvements at all. In fact, it's the opposite of a hardware improvement; it's got an 800MHz processor.
The EVO 2 will probably have a dual-core and better GPU to fit the requirements of 3.0
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How many times does it need to be said that the 800 MHz CPU in the newer HTC phones are better. Plus the GPU is not absolute crap.
I bet you the EVO 2 will have the same 2nd gen Qualcomm as the current HTCs. And then two months later HTC will release dual cores. And although I do believe that Honeycomb will require a decent GPU, there are no known requirements.
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Award Tour said:
How many times does it need to be said that the 800 MHz CPU in the newer HTC phones are better. Plus the GPU is not absolute crap.
I bet you the EVO 2 will have the same 2nd gen Qualcomm as the current HTCs. And then two months later HTC will release dual cores. And although I do believe that Honeycomb will require a decent GPU, there are no known requirements.
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Personally, I believe that the evo 2 will more than likely have a dual core processor. I would even guess it will be atleast 1.2ghz dual core with 1gig of ram.
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How many times does it need to be said that the 800 MHz CPU in the newer HTC phones are better. Plus the GPU is not absolute crap.
I bet you the EVO 2 will have the same 2nd gen Qualcomm as the current HTCs. And then two months later HTC will release dual cores. And although I do believe that Honeycomb will require a decent GPU, there are no known requirements.
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Don't think anyone is denying that the new internals aren't a step up, as that's obviously the case. But also not quite sure who would honestly see it as a second Gen Evo. I would personally hope that HTC would really take advantage of next Gen dual core CPUs and make a true Evo successor. A man can dream but only time will tell. I would hope to see no keyboard as well...for obvious reasons.
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CarterF said:
What? Can you not read? It's not the EVO 2. It's just a different model with a slide out keyboard, and no hardware improvements at all. In fact, it's the opposite of a hardware improvement; it's got an 800MHz processor.
The EVO 2 will probably have a dual-core and better GPU to fit the requirements of 3.0
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A) Its not the EVO 2 its the EVO shift. You are correct
B) How is a 800mhz processor that runs better than the Snapdragon not an improvement? Believe that it is supposed to have the 205 GPU instead of the 200, that's an improvement as well.
C) If the CPU and the GPU are both BETTER, how can you say it doesn't have any hardware improvements? It should be a sound device, very capable, I'm sure they'll sell a ton of them, I've always thought HTC had better build quality than Samsung, (because they do).
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A) Its not the EVO 2 its the EVO shift. You are correct
B) How is a 800mhz processor that runs better than the Snapdragon not an improvement? Believe that it is supposed to have the 205 GPU instead of the 200, that's an improvement as well.
C) If the CPU and the GPU are both BETTER, how can you say it doesn't have any hardware improvements? It should be a sound device, very capable, I'm sure they'll sell a ton of them, I've always thought HTC had better build quality than Samsung, (because they do).
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You are totally correct the EVO shift4G is a cdma port of the G2 with a different screen so yes it is better in alot of ways, but EVO2 it is not. as for the 4g tab there is one comming code name right now is Shift4G not EVO Shift but just plain old Shift specs are varied right now so there are no confirmed specs right now
I want my evo 2 to have a 5 inch screen, a dual core processor, 16gb internal memory, tegra2 graphics....and 3 more wishes
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I want my evo 2 to have a 5 inch screen, a dual core processor, 16gb internal memory, tegra2 graphics....and 3 more wishes
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It should have a 3.7 or 4 inch screen with better resolution. Dual core is meh - I would rather have better app optimization.
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You are totally correct the EVO shift4G is a cdma port of the G2 with a different screen so yes it is better in alot of ways, but EVO2 it is not. as for the 4g tab there is one comming code name right now is Shift4G not EVO Shift but just plain old Shift specs are varied right now so there are no confirmed specs right now
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I know radioshack is advertising it will go on sale on the 9th.... it isn't in the playbook yet, hasn't shown any specs for it yet, and the prices change on the 9th... the Shift isn't mentioned on it. Seems kinda weird.
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It should have a 3.7 or 4 inch screen with better resolution. Dual core is meh - I would rather have better app optimization.
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I will never again have a phone with less than a 4.3 inch screen, I don't care how awesome it may be or cheap to buy
my evo fits my 6ft 5 body very well but bigger is better, heck gimme a tablet that can make calls and will tether to my laptop
seriously 4.3 is the sweet spot, but i wouldn't cry over a 4" screen. HTC whats the haps on your tablet? seriously knock that crap out so we can buy your tablet
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I will never again have a phone with less than a 4.3 inch screen, I don't care how awesome it may be or cheap to buy
my evo fits my 6ft 5 body very well but bigger is better, heck gimme a tablet that can make calls and will tether to my laptop
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Evo 3D specs released

http://is.gd/AicCPq
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Very nice.
No 4g? I'll pass
it never said it wasnt 4g either....
Looks awesome. I just wish the processor was going to be different.
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Looks awesome. I just wish the processor was going to be different.
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Yep. Processor is meh at best. Don't doubt that it will hit 360000 on Quadrant because it looks like it was specifically designed to do that, but compared to what is on the horizon and even what is out there already, its will be coming in at the low end of the dual core line.
I'm guessing the evo view is that evo tablet they were talking about?
Ya, the one that runs froyo and custom htc crap.
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I'm guessing the evo view is that evo tablet they were talking about?
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Yeah it's the only Android tablet coming out that isn't 3.0. Some might say it'll be DOA but I think it does have a chance. Its ROM weighs in at 700MB (CM7 is 90MB) so its custom interface better have some magic in there.
As for the processor, it's the Qualcomm MSM8x60 which is a dual-core with an Adreno 220 GPU. The Adreno 220 is comparable with the SGX540 in our phones if not faster.
Android Police just referenced this post about the EVO 3D.. not entirely sure how accurate it is, but these specs are getting very interesting nonetheless.
http://androidforums.com/2456934-post597.html
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Android Police just referenced this post about the EVO 3D.. not entirely sure how accurate it is, but these specs are getting very interesting nonetheless.
http://androidforums.com/2456934-post597.html
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Good find and read
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making me mad

before my top device comes out, better ones are coming out or at least rumored too...i understand technology but this is too fast for me, jeez at least let me buy one first before coming out with the next better thing...
http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/05/...orlds-first-1-5-ghz-dual-core-phone-tablet-i/
ps im talking processor speed btw
No thanks. I'll pass on a pantech product.
Is computer hardware or phone tech moving faster
Im not sure what's worse, pantech or kyocera. I think pantech phones would be alright if the UI was better.
Faster doesn't always = better.
Pantech & TFT kinda detracted from the wow factor too.
I oddly like the name "Vega Racer". Why? I'm scared to ask myself.
they look like crappy iphones...IMO..
You need to stop looking at it that way and be happy by how fast the market is going. Would you prefer it if we're still sitting on 500MHz processors like in 2009?
No no not at all, I hear your side too, it just that I would like to get my Evo 3d befirevits outdated by q better processor
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You need to stop looking at it that way and be happy by how fast the market is going. Would you prefer it if we're still sitting on 500MHz processors like in 2009?
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The evo 3d uses the same chipset.
I said this a couple of weeks ago. By the time the 3D comes out there will be 3 or 4 more phones with better specs set to drop a couple weeks/months later. Look at the Samsung phone that just leaked on Tmobile.. the Hercules.
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I said this a couple of weeks ago. By the time the 3D comes out there will be 3 or 4 more phones with better specs set to drop a couple weeks/months later. Look at the Samsung phone that just leaked on Tmobile.. the Hercules.
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The cpu inside the Hercules is the same family as the dual core Snapdragon found in the Evo 3d.
It's not just hardware you have to look at, it's also software. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but Sense is pretty smooth.
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No thanks. I'll pass on a pantech product.
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QFT*************.
vbetts said:
The cpu inside the Hercules is the same family as the dual core Snapdragon found in the Evo 3d.
It's not just hardware you have to look at, it's also software. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but Sense is pretty smooth.
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Im guessing you missed the point.
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Im guessing you missed the point.
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Your point was by the time the 3d is out, there will be faster devices out. You then referenced the Hercules, which will most likely have near same performance of the 3d, but probably borked support from Samsung.
Interesting...but pantech? No thanks.
This epic reply brought to you by none other than my roxx'd out Evo.
Correct me if I'm wrong, might be same family but isn't the 3d at 1.2 dual core?
And I totally get your point, I feel outdated just three months later. Same reason I'm holding off on a tablet...ipad is a perfect example, couple months after spending 600 or so my friend feels like an idiot just a few months later he's considering another 600 just cuz of the stupid camera...
vbetts said:
The cpu inside the Hercules is the same family as the dual core Snapdragon found in the Evo 3d.
It's not just hardware you have to look at, it's also software. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but Sense is pretty smooth.
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Get over it. Buy a phone you like, enjoy it, and get past the need for having the latest and greatest. Phone envy is a *****. Either that, or man up every 6 months and fork out the dough for the newest on the market. Technology will always be 2 steps ahead of you, that's just the way it is.
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Get over it. Buy a phone you like, enjoy it, and get past the need for having the latest and greatest. Phone envy is a *****. Either that, or man up every 6 months and fork out the dough for the newest on the market. Technology will always be 2 steps ahead of you, that's just the way it is.
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Truth.
Not sure this is exactly a new thing, across the board as a whole. Always something better around the corner. And what's there to be bothered about something being better than something you don't even own yet ... ? Whether or not it is 'entirely' better or 'marginally' better.
And talk about not wanting to buy a Samsung device ... but a Pantech?
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lakhanim87 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, might be same family but isn't the 3d at 1.2 dual core?
And I totally get your point, I feel outdated just three months later. Same reason I'm holding off on a tablet...ipad is a perfect example, couple months after spending 600 or so my friend feels like an idiot just a few months later he's considering another 600 just cuz of the stupid camera...
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Yup the evo 3d is undervolted to 1.2 ghz for minimum battery drain but will be overclocked soon enough, just look at the g2 overclock threads to see the potential qualcomm chips have.
After a year with my evo, I believe I can easily wait until next year to upgrade since every phone coming out has specs bumps and nothing else . Just because a better spec laptop comes out doesn't mean to run out and get it.
It will be hard but I'm sure ill hold off on the evo 3d and get the next gen evo next july.
What's the point of this thread? The EVO3D has a better screen, higher resolution, and although the clock speed is 1.2 gigahertz, it will easily be able to overclock significantly higher.
The G2, as someone else mentioned, has been overclocked up to 2 gigahertz. A G2, which has an older chipset and has a stock speed of merely 800 MHz.

Everyone wants ICS but...

does anyone know how laggy our phones will be?
I'm sure it will be fine. If the Nexus S can run it smoothly we can too
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If we were to get on ota it would be problematic. But with rom developers bringing it to us we should be fine. Just a bug here and there. I'm waiting for cm9 and a few variants I follow.
It kind of seems like they are already using ics in the cm nightlies.
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It'll run better than trying to shoehorn Sense 3.5 onto the DZ lol.
Just like the above poster said though. If it runs fine on the Nexus S we'll have no problem running it.
martonikaj said:
It'll run better than trying to shoehorn Sense 3.5 onto the DZ lol.
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I actually find that Sense 3.5 ROMs run a lot smoother on my DZ than 3.0 ROMs.
Still looking forward to trying out ICS ROMs though
Don't think it will be laggy at all.
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G2 wont get ICS officially and I don't think CM would work on it for the G2 if it were too laggy.
BTW just because the Nexus S can run it doesnt mean our G2 can. Our GPU is alot weaker than the PowerVR SGX540 in the Nexus S (My biggest grip with Snapdragon SoC and why I will not own another Snapdragon device but thats another story).
All that being said I think the G2 will run ICS decently but we will only get it from developers, no official build.
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G2 wont get ICS officially and I don't think CM would work on it for the G2 if it were too laggy.
BTW just because the Nexus S can run it doesnt mean our G2 can. Our GPU is alot weaker than the PowerVR SGX540 in the Nexus S (My biggest grip with Snapdragon SoC and why I will not own another Snapdragon device but thats another story).
All that being said I think the G2 will run ICS decently but we will only get it from developers, no official build.
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The problem is not the gpu.
It is a very fast adreno205 gpu and fast enough for ICS.
I doubt that this will be a bottleneck.
The problem is ICS together with Sense could be too much for the 512MB ram.
boost3d23 said:
BTW just because the Nexus S can run it doesnt mean our G2 can. Our GPU is alot weaker than the PowerVR SGX540 in the Nexus S
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You're confusing the Adreno 200 in the Nexus One with the Adreno 205 in our G2's. Despite the small number bump, it a LOT faster.
Not nearly as fast as the SGX540 of course but you don't need _that_ much gpu to render smoothly as wp7 and ios has shown.
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convolution said:
does anyone know how laggy our phones will be?
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Android 4.0 should actually be **LESS** laggy than android 2.3.7. Reason being that Android 4.0 uses GPU acceleration for UI. Android 2.3.7 uses CPU.
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mrx1983 said:
The problem is not the gpu.
It is a very fast adreno205 gpu and fast enough for ICS.
I doubt that this will be a bottleneck.
The problem is ICS together with Sense could be too much for the 512MB ram.
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Sense? What is this cruft you speak of? No, sorry. NOT AN ISSUE. Sense cruft is NOT a welcome bloat.
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ChronoReverse said:
You're confusing the Adreno 200 in the Nexus One with the Adreno 205 in our G2's. Despite the small number bump, it a LOT faster.
Not nearly as fast as the SGX540 of course but you don't need _that_ much gpu to render smoothly as wp7 and ios has shown.
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SGX540 is a piece of garbage.
And think of the GPU requirements similarly to the requirements for DESKTOP COMPOSITING on Linux. You can composite a pair of massive 1920x1200 monitors with a GPU that is LESS POWERFUL than an Adreno 200. There is no issue compositing a measly 800x480 on an Adreno 205.
mrx1983 said:
The problem is not the gpu.
It is a very fast adreno205 gpu and fast enough for ICS.
I doubt that this will be a bottleneck.
The problem is ICS together with Sense could be too much for the 512MB ram.
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I've been on custom roms for so long, that I can hardly recall what stock was like...but I'm pretty sure the T-Moble G2 never came with ANY build of Sense. I think you are confusion the G2 and the Desire Z. Similar phones (differing in hboot and 3G radio bands), but not the same device.
It is possible that HTC might skip the Desire Z when it comes to ICS, as ICS and Sense might not live happily together on our gracefully aging beauties. However I'm guessing that Desire Z users could flash the G2's update for ICS goodness, provided they are willing to forgo Sense.
Just a thought....
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I've been on custom roms for so long, that I can hardly recall what stock was like...but I'm pretty sure the T-Moble G2 never came with ANY build of Sense. I think you are confusion the G2 and the Desire Z. Similar phones (differing in hboot and 3G radio bands), but not the same device.
It is possible that HTC might skip the Desire Z when it comes to ICS, as ICS and Sense might not live happily together on our gracefully aging beauties. However I'm guessing that Desire Z users could flash the G2's update for ICS goodness, provided they are willing to forgo Sense.
Just a thought....
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You're right, forgot that the american g2 has no Sense.
In this case i think for the g2 there is no problem at all, since nexus s is confirmed for ICS.
Nexus s also has pure android with just 512MB ram, same as g2
Don't you guys forget that G2 is discontinued?
Its discontinued, but if I had a thousand bucks to buy a new phone i'd buy some more g2s. And mine got stolen the other day. Just got it back tonight. So, I was faced with the issue.
Cm will do ics. I would like to see others working straight from source, too.
But whatever we get will beat stock.
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ufoman said:
Don't you guys forget that G2 is discontinued?
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Yeah, but still on sale. I went to some commercials center in montreal this weekend, and surprisingly Bell and all-brand-sellers-phone-shops are selling the DZ. (12 nov 2011).
And they put the DZ in the show counter next to the htc sensation and other new phones.
Its 0$ with a mobile contract. But the full price still high, around 449$ new.
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Yeah, but still on sale. I went to some commercials center in montreal this weekend, and surprisingly Bell and all-brand-sellers-phone-shops are selling the DZ. (12 nov 2011).
And they put the DZ in the show counter next to the htc sensation and other new phones.
Its 0$ with a mobile contract. But the full price still high, around 449$ new.
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I meant specifically the T-Mo G2, DZ is supported alright...

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