Hey guys, this post is just my way in saying thanks for all the help all of you guys have given me and for making it possible to have android on my HD2
Basically I have been doing some testing and have come up with a combination of things you can do to give yourself a fully working android build Ofcorse some of the information I had to test with was provided by other members but this combination I think is flawless, well at least it is for me ^^.
To begin you’re going to want to get the right WM rom for your android, and after testing I found the best one to be
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734238
I have not had any problems with it. Just flash it to your device and let’s go from there.
Next your going to want to do something allot of members do not think of doing, and that is formatting the SD card PROPERLY, as this eliminates allot of problems for various reasons. The correct way to do this is, boot yourself into Linux, Ubuntu is the easiest in my eyes, and you can get it on a live CD or USB so it’s easy to get into, just boot into Ubuntu plug in your SDcard and its better if you can insert it via an SDcard slot in an adapter. Then format it as FAT not FAT32, I wont explain why this is better, but it will. Check this out if you really want to know why you need to do it ^^ but you don’t really need to know
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750780
Next thing is your android build. Now there are ALOT of builds that work well but there is only one that I believe can give you a real working android experience, and the next part of this guide is based on this build so I suggest you use it .
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740963
Ok, so you have got your build on your card you have booted into it and it’s ready to go, right? Not yet. One of the most annoying things that occur in android under the HD2 is the random freezing and this is how I removed this pesky little annoyance.
1. Unlock your screen and hit the settings key (windows key)
2. Hit settings
3. Hit Cyanogenmod Settings
4. Hit User Interface
5. Scroll down to Accelerometer rotation
6. Make sure ONLY 90 degrees is ticked!
7. Done
Now that setting is how I have managed to eliminate the problem, but don’t worry if you still have this issue, just go back into the Cyanogenmod settings and turn off 90 degrees and then under display turn off Auto-rotate screen, this should eliminate the problems but then your screen wont rotate automatically so its swings and roundabouts really ^^
Top Tips!
DONT use live wallpapers, they WILL kill your battery and drastically decrease the performance of your HD2!
Turn off the GPS as it is on by Default, it drains battery ALOT and isn't necessary most of the time ^^
Get the XDA app because its mega? And you suck if you don’t!
Calibrate the Gsensor, it will reduce the screen freezes (that’s if you even have them, witch you shouldn’t after this guide: P)
Finally, always remember that you should turn off your phone to charge it OR have it booted into WinMo, allot of reasons why you should do this but again just do it
Hope this helped someone somewhere Its my first real post that gave something back to the community and I AM a noob hehe, so any addition to this guide is welcome ^^ Again thanks allot all you guys at XDA that made this possible and I will keep this updated as necessary
Thanks allot. Dane.
xpstyle36 said:
1. Unlock your screen and hit the settings key (windows key)
2. Hit settings
3. Hit Cyanogenmod Settings
4. Hit User Interface
5. Scroll down to Accelerometer rotation
6. Make sure ONLY 90 degrees is ticked!
7. Done
Now that setting is how I have managed to eliminate the problem, but don’t worry if you still have this issue, just go back into the Cyanogenmod settings and turn off 90 degrees and then under display turn off Auto-rotate screen, this should eliminate the problems but then your screen wont rotate automatically so its swings and roundabouts really ^^
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Calibrate the Gsensor, it will reduce the screen freezes (that’s if you even have them, witch you shouldn’t after this guide: P)
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If this works, I'll be eternally grateful.
shadiku said:
If this works, I'll be eternally grateful.
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I hope it works for you but remember if you didn't follow all the other steps I cant guarantee and fix and even if it doesn't work, you can disable all screen rotation as I mentioned and this SHOULD fix your problem ^^ I really do hope it works for ya.
Dane.
Forgot to discuss about RADIOS and HARDSPL.
Common man.
FriedSushi87 said:
Forgot to discuss about RADIOS and HARDSPL.
Common man.
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Well if your looking at this guide, you probably already have HardSPL :l and even if you didn't when you take a look at the ROM pages it explains it there, so I don't think its very productive or helpful to post random crap like that :l And as for the radio, i tested several radios and it didn't make any difference TO ME but if you really want to know the radio i am running its, 2.12.50. Happy now ?
Dane.
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Well if your looking at this guide, you probably already have HardSPL :l and even if you didn't when you take a look at the ROM pages it explains it there, so I don't think its very productive or helpful to post random crap like that :l And as for the radio, i tested several radios and it didn't make any difference TO ME but if you really want to know the radio i am running its, 2.12.50. Happy now ?
Dane.
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I think it's incredibly important to post that here.
Imagine someone sees an HD2 with android or hears about it from a friend, does a quick google search and finds this thread.
They come in here looking for a quick fix for android....
They could end up bricking their device or something....
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I think it's incredibly important to post that here.
Imagine someone sees an HD2 with android or hears about it from a friend, does a quick google search and finds this thread.
They come in here looking for a quick fix for android....
They could end up bricking their device or something....
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/sigh, what are you trying to do here ? cause problems.if you had never even heard about android on HD2 you take one look at the writing in this post and think WHAT, it says things like Flash it to your device and lets go. you wouldnt know how to flash or even what it meant, so you couldn't even brick your device as you would not know how :l Please stop filling up this thread that i made to HELP people not argue with some guy who keeps coming up with random crap that is not going to happen, and i am not being unreasonable by saying that and i am sure many other members will agree im not in the wrong.
Dane.
Unfortunately still having the screen freezes, even after toying with CyanogenMod settings.
Back to the waiting game then.
shadiku said:
Unfortunately still having the screen freezes, even after toying with CyanogenMod settings.
Back to the waiting game then.
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Did you turn off all the screen rotation under cm settings and normal settings and did you calibrate the Gsensor these things can also resolve the problem, you can also disable the Gsensor in WinMO and this will cure your problem but thats not reccomended ^^ Give those suggestions a try, again hope it works for you.
Dane.
Are we allowed to start a poll asking people which mainstream rom they're using just so we know what is the most common and popular rom is,? Or is it a taboo?
xpstyle36 said:
Did you turn off all the screen rotation under cm settings and normal settings and did you calibrate the Gsensor these things can also resolve the problem, you can also disable the Gsensor in WinMO and this will cure your problem but thats not reccomended ^^ Give those suggestions a try, again hope it works for you.
Dane.
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I turned all the screen rotation off. Since I'm using ChuckyDroidROM, the gsensor calibration is removed.
In android, it worked for a while but tilting it continually in Gallery3D caused a freeze.
I wish I could disable the theming on shubCRAFT, it's the only thing that puts me off using it.
I think that if you look at this thread you will see
xpstyle36 said:
Next your going to want to do something allot of members do not think of doing, and that is formatting the SD card PROPERLY, as this eliminates allot of problems for various reasons. The correct way to do this is, boot yourself into Linux, Ubuntu is the easiest in my eyes, and you can get it on a live CD or USB so it’s easy to get into, just boot into Ubuntu plug in your SDcard and its better if you can insert it via an SDcard slot in an adapter. Then format it as FAT not FAT32, I wont explain why this is better, but it will. Check this out if you really want to know why you need to do it ^^ but you don’t really need to know
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that this method is a lot of trouble for no additional benefit over a simple format using WinMo in the phone. If you would "explain why" it would be interesting because no one else can. A full WinMo format, not quick, overwrites the complete data space on an SD card with new redundant data. It also only reserves and writes one FAT where Windows on the PC reserves and writes two. You can't get something from nothing and WinMo non-quick format leaves nothing in the data space. (And yes I do understand full mil spec data destruction and redundent and random erase so everything is destroyed.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760996&page=5
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that this method is a lot of trouble for no additional benefit over a simple format using WinMo in the phone. If you would "explain why" it would be interesting because no one else can. A full WinMo format, not quick, overwrites the complete data space on an SD card with new redundant data. It also only reserves and writes one FAT where Windows on the PC reserves and writes two. You can't get something from nothing and WinMo non-quick format leaves nothing in the data space. (And yes I do understand full mil spec data destruction and redundent and random erase so everything is destroyed.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760996&page=5
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Well i may be wrong but as far as i was aware, when you put a linux android build on your SDcard it creates a partition or something like that on the card, (i will look it up and get back to you) and windows cannot see it, wheras linux can see it and therefore it can wipe it, and these left over bits that windows cant see dont always get on when you get a new build Thanks for pointing it out though, just wanna help as many as possible ^^
Thanks
Dane.
shadiku said:
I turned all the screen rotation off. Since I'm using ChuckyDroidROM, the gsensor calibration is removed.
In android, it worked for a while but tilting it continually in Gallery3D caused a freeze.
I wish I could disable the theming on shubCRAFT, it's the only thing that puts me off using it.
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To be honest i think that if you got yourself a Shubcraft build and then followed the guide then you would end up with a pretty stable build, with no freezing, but if you dont like the theme, then i guess that there is nothing i can do, but hope that a sense version of it is relesed so that you can get yourself a nice stable build ;D
Thanks again.
Dane.
shubcraft themes and "stock"
If you dont like the shubcraft theme you can use this ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760641
there is even a shub version 1.4c with "stock" Froyo theme here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760641&page=3
thanks to all dev's & builders
ugghuggh said:
If you dont like the shubcraft theme you can use this ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760641
there is even a shub version 1.4c with "stock" Froyo theme here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760641&page=3
thanks to all dev's & builders
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Ah ! Thanks alot ^^ Hey ! now you can download that one, follow the instructions and hopefully get a working build D:
Thanks again
Dane.
FriedSushi87 said:
Forgot to discuss about RADIOS and HARDSPL.
Common man.
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FriedSushi87 said:
I think it's incredibly important to post that here.
Imagine someone sees an HD2 with android or hears about it from a friend, does a quick google search and finds this thread.
They come in here looking for a quick fix for android....
They could end up bricking their device or something....
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@friedsushi definitely agree with you it isn't clarified correctly about different radios affecting the android or that hspl is necessary for it to work. I am constantly getting people pming me to ask for a walkthrough, which on most occasions I have been able to get this working even though my wordage is more simplified in layman's terms-his looks like its been copy/pasted from all over these pages which in effect isn't a bad thing but to call it a guide and not including vital information is a bit haphazard IMO.
& to the op I am not flaming you but there are already guides out there & don't particularly need another unfinished version to add to the numerous threads which have only just been cleaned up by the mods, plus with only 11 posts 8 of which are on here I honestly don't see much experience to be able to give people guides
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@friedsushi definitely agree with you it isn't clarified correctly about different radios affecting the android or that hspl is necessary for it to work. I am constantly getting people pming me to ask for a walkthrough, which on most occasions I have been able to get this working even though my wordage is more simplified in layman's terms-his looks like its been copy/pasted from all over these pages which in effect isn't a bad thing but to call it a guide and not including vital information is a bit haphazard IMO.
& to the op I am not flaming you but there are already guides out there & don't particularly need another unfinished version to add to the numerous threads which have only just been cleaned up by the mods.
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I dont get it ? not one word of this was copied and pasted from someone else, and this is just the process i went through to get it to work perfectly, i didnt include the parts about the HardSPL and the radio because, i tryed a few different radios and it made no difference to me AND you wouldn't be able to flash or follow these instructions if you didnt know what hard SPL was. Again i am not flaming but i was just providing a set of instructions that i did, to get it working. So its not a unfinished guide, just because it didnt include some realy basic information. Sorry if i did not make this 100% noob friendly, was just trying to get a few more phones running stable ^^
Dane.
No one discussed any where about the below scenarios.
If booting to android, Phone reboots.
If already in booted and trying to make a call or check email again booted.Always getting booten in android randomly after trying various builds.
Anyone has answer for thatt?
Thanks
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I know I am going to cause some trouble by asking this but why?
On taking my new Orange SPV M600 out of the box, I have to agree a bit sluggish, but this was mainly due to Windows.
After a little tweaking with the registry and some third party software it is now flying.
I originally thought that putting third party software over the top of the system would slow it even more, but know, the opposite was true. Using the standard windows task bar and start menu was dreadful. I tried a number of third party softwares such as True Toolbar, Handyswitcher etc, finally settling on Wisbar deluxe.
Everything now opens as soon as it is selected no nasty lag like windows. With some skinning and removal of Customised Today the phone looks great and is performing great. That is apart from my wired hands free. I can now answer and close calls with the button, but it does not activate voice dial when pressed, so I can't dial out hands free. All prevoius phones, Nokia and SE did this no problem, so why not this phone?
Anyway, back to the point of ROMS, why keep flashing?
I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
I can not remember all of the tweaks I used, but there is a big section somewhere in here listing them. I have them somewhere on the computer but my filing is a mess and I can't remember what I called the text file or where I put it.
Basically the tweaks are just simple things like increasing cache size for fonts, programs etc. Moving file storage off main memory to SD card, disabling and enabling etc. It is claimed by doing this that the system will speed up a little. I am not sure if any of these actually did anything or if it is just down to Wisbar. All I can say is that when I click on a program it fires up straight away, before it could take a second or two.
Spenner said:
I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
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check out this tread and application
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=easy+tweaking
good luck
R
Actually, the rule about flashing is: If it's not broken don't fix it.
People upgrade because they want to get rid of bugs or add features like AKU 2.0 that includes push mail and some other stuff.
Also some brands are better that others in some ways, and worse in other ways. There are several ROMs for the Prophet: Dopod, i-mate, Qtek, Orange. Finally some people cook their own ROMs throwing out useless stuff and adding apps they 'must have'.
All in all if you are pleased with your phone there is no need to change the ROM. When I got my Jamin it had the i-mate 1.xx ROM so I upgraded to 2.13 to get the AKU 2.0 goodies.
I always belive the latest is the greatest, even if its not. I still run the latest. While the release notes say "Added this, fixed that" they also contain a lot of fixes and changes not documented.
Hi all.
Thats actually a very good question. From my experience you dont really need to change anything. Maybe as you said some registry tweaking or some basic settings. However as someone already said, the golden rule should be if it is not broken dont try to fix it.
On the other hand you might want to change things with no reason, just because you can.. and I have to admit that it is hard not to do. Then you have to make sure that you know what you are doing cause otherwise you might end up spending your day in forums try to fix whatever you &^%$ up..
Take care.
Thanks for the replies.
I have to admit, when I first got the phone I started tweaking, then I found this forum and others. Once I discovered unlocking and flashing ROMS, I was very close to doing it. Then I remembered what I used to be like on my PC. With old systems like Win ME, I used to spend about 70% of my time tweaking and fixing, and only 30% actually using the damn thing. Not what I want out of a phone.
Just by messing around with skins, I have already managed to lose my phone dialer all together, I was left with a blank screen, so I had a phone that could not phone. I have it nicely skinned and running now, but I was never able to get the Orange dialer back.
Guess the only time I will flash my ROM is when there is a genuine update and it is covered by warranty, that way if the ROM is bad, Orange can give me another phone.
Thanks
I look at it same way as i look at windows.
My windows isn't broke but I always use Windows Update.
Why do YOU update windows, if you do at all. I guess im not sure if this is advisable, but that's just the way i do it.
Regarding upgrading ROM, MOST of the time, it makes the device faster and adds more features ( i never install extended ROM ) so I always upgrade when there is a new one.
I've downgraded ONCE. And only the RADIO because 1.11 didn't agree with my device.
There are ways to Backup the device, change to a different BRAND/VERISON of ROM then restore the backup. This makes changing ROM very easy.
Anyway, I have nothing better to do with my time so i upgrade whenever a new ROM comes out.
Sorry to but in again but I simply must disagree with the Windows update analogy.
I have my PC set to auto update as well, but Windows XP runs updates in the background and doesn't delete you data in the process.
ROM upgrade means HARD RESET, and unless you have a good backup a long restore process.
Also there is the danger of communication / power interrupt during the flashing and a bricked device as a result.
Finlay, like with your radio ROM, some OS updates have new bugs as well as fixes for the old.
But I do wish it was as simple as updating windows - then I would say, update away, couldn't hurt.
My analogy was based only on the reason for updating, not the process itself that you are stating.
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
Sorry i did not explain that clearly. The guy just asked why update if you are content with what you have.... It has nothing to do with "I would update only if the process were simpler" like what you stated.
Sorry for the misunderstanding
I upgrade because I can cook my own ROM with better application suite
Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
I think the main point is you dont have to upgrade, you can if you want, its a matter of choice.
I like to always update, some like to keep the same and have never hard reset in their life. Im on my 9th this week :S but it is a new device and im still figuring it all out.
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Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
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TheBrit said:
Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
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I was talking about Windows, not WM5.
My phone came shipped with an AKU2 rom and it's fine - after a little tweaking. I'm not going to risk bricking my pride and joy with a rom upgrade - as so many people have done already on this forum. :wink:
Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Look at the top left of this very page and you will see a link to the wiki section of this site. How to flash is in there.
The extended rom is where the operator adds thier own customisations (over and above what M$ provide) to the device, for example Orange and O2 add their own options in there and they install when the device is powered up for the first time or when it's hard reset. If you get access to the extended rom (again look in the wiki) you can manipulate what gets installed and if you're really clever, add some of your own stuff.
Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
cool, thanks paul
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Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
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Actually, it is virtually impossible to brick your device by manipulating the contents of the extended ROM. It is only accessed once, during first boot, and event that can be avoided by quickly soft resetting the device.
Basically it acts exactly like "file store" used to on WM 2003 devices, the only difference being it is hidden so ordinary users won't get rid of the operator junk.
In my case it was very nice of i-mate to provide various goodies there like voice dial (should be in ROM) anti virus (not only useless but damaging crap) Skype (could have just downloaded from their site, but nice thought) and backgammon (toys are always welcome).
But now ofter the initial installation it makes all the sense in the world to save these cabs (9MB~) to my PC and have extra 10 MB storage on the device.
Hi Guys,
Just got my new HD2 and wow, what a phone. I just retired a 3GS after about 12 month and wanted back to WM which I really missed. That said, the iPhone gave me some bad habbits that I need to break.
First thing I did was flash the HSPL ready for flashing some new roms but before I do that, I wanted to get used the WM again. My last was 6.5 on a kaiser so this is similar but different.
Anyway, couple of things. First is the Facebook app. On my iphone, when someone had posted XYX Name Likes the Group "WM 4 Me", the "WM 4 Me" portion was linked. I dont see that in the WM app. Am I missing something or is it that you cant just jump to that group? Any tips here.
Next thing is if anyone can recomend a good program to remote erase all data if I loose it or if there is anything out there to enrypt my sd card to make it useless without a password?
Last, is there a way to get the HD2 into landscape mode? I assumed it would be automatic but... Thats what I get for assuming.
Thanks in advance guys.
Next thing is if anyone can recomend a good program to remote erase all data if I loose it or if there is anything out there to enrypt my sd card to make it useless without a password?
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remotetracker - brilliant, loads of options.
Last, is there a way to get the HD2 into landscape mode? I assumed it would be automatic but... Thats what I get for assuming.
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stock rom isnt landscapeable, some cooked roms are, but its never been released like that, it was a test rom that leaked with the landscaped tabs and the chefs cooked them in.
I'm running the stock ROM and it's correct there's no native landscape rotation built in, but I've been using the cab attached below, and it works great for putting sense and even WM apps (like file explorer!) into landscape when you physically rotate the phone. Just put the cab on your SD card, run it (install to phone), then soft-reset.
Hey thanks guys. Just installed the cab and bingo. Dont know why they didnt send it from the factory that way?
Sam, going to se if I can get hold of that remotetracker and give it a shot.
So far, happy with the stock rom so I might just tweak it a little bit. Would still like to figure this Facebook app out. Is it an actual app or a mobile webpage I'm looking at? Also need to find a new gps since my old favorite site (gpsunderground)seems to have shut down.
Thanks again.
remotetracker
Cheers mate. If you have any must haves, let me know. I'm searching for footprints and I should be done.
After pondering which phone to get for months, and whilst everything pointed to getting the Desire... I just couldn't resist!! I'm a slave to WinMo after my HTC Diamond
So any way, it arrives, I have a silent orgasm, open it up...
What are the next 5 essential things I should do?
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After pondering which phone to get for months, and whilst everything pointed to getting the Desire... I just couldn't resist!! I'm a slave to WinMo after my HTC Diamond
So any way, it arrives, I have a silent orgasm, open it up...
What are the next 5 essential things I should do?
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1.) Kiss it
2.) Hug it
3.) Stroke it
4.) Love it
5.) Wipe the mess from the first 4 off of it ....
But seriously ...
1.) I would start looking at what custom ROM you want on it, the Stock ones tend to SUCK.
2.) Make a full backup of your SD card.
3.) If your are gonna Flash a custom ROM HSPL it .
4.) Make a list and start Downloading your "Essential" Apps you want so you can have them ready, while the phone is getting its first full charge.
5.) See the first list .....
1) Sell it.
2) See point n.1
3) See point n.2
4) See point n.3
5) See point n.4
I'm kidding....
install these...
1.Coreplayer/TCPMP
2.FPSEce
3.Cookies Home Tab&CHT Editor
4.Some wallpapers/JMWD icon changer/and some icons
5.Skyfire browser
There's loads more, but that's a good start..
I've not bothered with a custom rom yet, as i've not had any trouble with the stock rom, but there's a load of custom roms and it looks like there's good progress being made with the Android port.
if you're in the uk I'd also recommend myplayer (iplayer and digital tv)
1. Find a decent Rom, or update to latest official release.
2. Cookies Home Tab
3. Install Opera Mobile 10
4. Get Resco Explorer
5. Get G-Alarm
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Hi!
I would:
1. Try it for a week without tweaking it in any way. (then you have something to compare it to when you start tweaking and so on)
2. Meantime install Resco explorer, CorePlayer and apps you need.
3. Take a look at Co0kies Home Tab
4. Make sure to drain the battery a couple of times to get the best out of it.
5. Now you can start looking for a cooked ROM
1. Install a screenprotector and don't carry it around without it before.
2. HSPL
3. NRG ROM
4. Install ur software
5. Love it.
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Hi!
I would:
1. Try it for a week without tweaking it in any way. (then you have something to compare it to when you start tweaking and so on)
2. Meantime install Resco explorer, CorePlayer and apps you need.
3. Take a look at Co0kies Home Tab
4. Make sure to drain the battery a couple of times to get the best out of it.
5. Now you can start looking for a cooked ROM
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would do the same
just add pocketplayer to the appslist, much better than the standard htc player to listen to music ^^
Well I would suggest 5 steps to a beginner:
1. Backup your Outlook calender and contacts folders.
2. Sync these to the phone.
3. Read about what "cabs" are
4. 5 must have apps: a. Opera Mobile 10; b. copilot (navigation apps are like religion - I like this one); c. Resco explorer; d. Omarket (for freeware); e. AEButton+ (great for getting the volume keys to do extra things, like up/down)
5. Then explore XDA software forum and slowly get used to the device. Don't try to do too much at the start
The great thing about the windows mobile devices is you can change nearly everything; the bad thing about winmo is you can change nearly everything !
kashinoda said:
After pondering which phone to get for months, and whilst everything pointed to getting the Desire... I just couldn't resist!! I'm a slave to WinMo after my HTC Diamond
So any way, it arrives, I have a silent orgasm, open it up...
What are the next 5 essential things I should do?
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Well, assuming that you're not a stranger in ROM-flashing, just flash a into a custom ROM as fast as you can, really! Sorry to differ, but stock ROMs are mediocre. You can try THIS one.
These guys are VERY wise, indeed.
Maggot #7 said:
1. Install a screenprotector and don't carry it around without it before....
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Cheesy Dave said:
....
The great thing about the windows mobile devices is you can change nearly everything; the bad thing about winmo is you can change nearly everything !
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Cheesy Dave said:
The great thing about the windows mobile devices is you can change nearly everything; the bad thing about winmo is you can change nearly everything !
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I love that quote! Can I use it in my sig? I'll credit you
As for the OP, when I first got mine, I download a shed load of apps and tried all the tweaks going, basically completely changed everything. I then made a note of the apps and changes I wanted to keep/were stable and did a hard reset and reintalled the good ones, making sure I wouldn't have anything that would crash my phone later down the line.
yeoldgreat1 said:
I love that quote! Can I use it in my sig? I'll credit you
As for the OP, when I first got mine, I download a shed load of apps and tried all the tweaks going, basically completely changed everything. I then made a note of the apps and changes I wanted to keep/were stable and did a hard reset and reintalled the good ones, making sure I wouldn't have anything that would crash my phone later down the line.
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Feel free to use the Quote - no credit needed
I used the first week to install all kinds of recommended apps, without worrying about maybe ****ing things up.
Then after I managed to **** things up, I knew what apps I liked and did a hard reset and set it up correctly with just those apps.
I highly recommend the LMT launcher, which allows to start apps with gestures.
BumAround said:
Well, assuming that you're not a stranger in ROM-flashing, just flash a into a custom ROM as fast as you can, really! Sorry to differ, but stock ROMs are mediocre. You can try THIS one.
These guys are VERY wise, indeed.
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May I ask, what difference does it make when changing the rom from the original? What are the advantages?
Also can anyone help me with installing the ps eumlator and how to convert the games i have from my original ps cd's.
Some great replies and suggestions here guys thanks a lot!!
Chance is I'll have it running under a new ROM within an hour... Even if the stock is good enough, I'm just compelled to.
Can anyone suggest a good screen protector??
Also
The great thing about the windows mobile devices is you can change nearly everything; the bad thing about winmo is you can change nearly everything !
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Best sentence ever.
andyjm said:
May I ask, what difference does it make when changing the rom from the original? What are the advantages?.
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Well, I would suggest reading the ROMs thread, there are alot of advantages, some apply to more people than others ...
More or Less apps cooked into the ROM (hard resets give you more or less)
Customized
Some are more stable, and faster, some are faster and less stable some are slower but more stable ...
There is really too much about custom ROMs to sum up here, all I can say is , Read Read Read, and decide for yourself .....
thanks for that info watcher, much appreciated. Would it be ok if i pm you i have another question.
andyjm said:
thanks for that info watcher, much appreciated. Would it be ok if i pm you i have another question.
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No problem .... PM away ....
I would use it a for a couple of weeks without changing anything. Give yourself some time to get used to the phone "as it is". After that, when you "own" the phone, I would gradually modify/expand it with some software/roms/tweaks.
The idea behind this is that you have to have a sollid fundament to work from (imo). If you don't have this base experience, there's the risk that you keep searching for the right customization... forever
my 2 cents
mdmhd2 said:
1) Sell it.
2) See point n.1
3) See point n.2
4) See point n.3
5) See point n.4
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This!
(10 char)
go to www.windowsmobile.com/getstarted
download step 2 and 3 if you don't have that
then just follow the instructions
start microsoft activesync on your PC and connect your device
then just wait a minute and it's done
Then,
download HSPL, install it and open it, now you can see at your mobile it's installing
don't shock if you see ''we've hacked it'' that's good
well, that's done
now download CustomRUU and place it on your desktop
after that download an RadioROM that's higher then 2.08....(the first downloads)(this link is for the HTC HD2, for other HTC phones just search it at Google) and place it also on your desktop
your mobile must still be connected with ActiveSync
use CustomRUU and follow the instructions, press next enz
then you come to a menu with a button UPDATE, press that one
now i'ts updating, first on your mobile you see the colour screen, then just wait
then on your pc and mobile you see a progress balk, just wait till 100%, and you mobile restarts
now that's done, you can start with android stuff
download the Froyostone_Sense.7z
unzip the file, then place the folder ''Android'' to your mobile's SD card
wait till that's done and the folder is on your mobile
then unmount your mobile from your PC
go to the file manager app on your mobile,
file manager>storage card>android
then tap the file CLRCAD, sometimes there comes a little install screen, tap YES on that
well, after tapping CLRCAD, nothing happens, so that's good
then tap the file HARET, then there comes a progress balk with ''booting linux''
well, then you just need to wait
your mobile's screen turns black, and first there come little white numbers enz, that became bigger ones later
well, just wait a few minutes till your mobile restarts
first you see the white screen with HTC in the middle
then after a minute or something there comes a black screen with Android in the middle
now you're done, and you can start figuring out how everything works
Greetz, Donny
And people, i just made this post cause i couldn't find a FULL build to install android, now it's just all together in one post, and no, i didn't made the downloads or something, it's just to help you
hi some screenshot please
what is the difference between this thread and others?
i dont want android on a sd card but i want to replace the whole WM system by android and use the phones main memory and ram. To do this you can use the architecture of the HTC Desire HD, because it is almost the same product.
What the h....?
This is very old stuff from Darkstone.... 7th of August? What kind of joke is this?
The ops better close this thread.
You mean I will be able to run Android on my HD2 then? This cannot be happening! What a Christmas present...
In this Sense: Merry Christmas to you all !!!
Flaming Removed
Why dont you just put this thread under something different like "The Dummies guide to putting Android on your HD2 with a build from August wich is now outdated and not all the bugs are gonna be ironed out anyway but im a dummie so i suppose i have to use it" Long Title i know,is this guy seriuse or is this anougher joke thread
i thought somebody figured out nand. Oooopss. Wrong turn i guess. Wait what DARKSTONE HAS RAM VERSION and ITS FASTERRRR. Thanks MDJ for the Gingerbread
JayVee said:
You mean I will be able to run Android on my HD2 then? This cannot be happening! What a Christmas present...
In this Sense: Merry Christmas to you all !!!
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You could of been doing this since late June early July.
mattfmartin said:
You could of been doing this since late June early July.
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I know I am also running Android since August on my HD2... Maybe you missed the smiley at the end of my (ironical) statement...
ah please... what a fail
everyone on xda knows that you have to put your files on your SD card and start CLRCAD and HaRET...
i really don't understand that somebody who is very new here make this tread: did he think we don't understand how our devices works? XD
ooh, what a joke :')
karanx said:
hi some screenshot please
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yea soon i will make some screenshots, i'm now figuring out wich are handy
soon there will be some screens
timoboontjuh said:
ah please... what a fail
everyone on xda knows that you have to put your files on your SD card and start CLRCAD and HaRET...
i really don't understand that somebody who is very new here make this tread: did he think we don't understand how our devices works? XD
ooh, what a joke :')
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not EVERYBODY knows,
yea, people that are working on it knows a lot, but if you just figured out that you can get android @your HTC, you don't really know what to do right?
it's just to help people so i made an acc on xda, i know a lot to...
donny123 said:
go to www.windowsmobile.com/getstarted
download step 2 and 3 if you don't have that
then just follow the instructions
start microsoft activesync on your PC and connect your device
then just wait a minute and it's done
Then,
download HSPL, install it and open it, now you can see at your mobile it's installing
don't shock if you see ''we've hacked it'' that's good
well, that's done
now download CustomRUU and place it on your desktop
after that download an RadioROM that's higher then 2.08....(the first downloads)(this link is for the HTC HD2, for other HTC phones just search it at Google) and place it also on your desktop
your mobile must still be connected with ActiveSync
use CustomRUU and follow the instructions, press next enz
then you come to a menu with a button UPDATE, press that one
now i'ts updating, first on your mobile you see the colour screen, then just wait
then on your pc and mobile you see a progress balk, just wait till 100%, and you mobile restarts
now that's done, you can start with android stuff
download the Froyostone_Sense.7z
unzip the file, then place the folder ''Android'' to your mobile's SD card
wait till that's done and the folder is on your mobile
then unmount your mobile from your PC
go to the file manager app on your mobile,
file manager>storage card>android
then tap the file CLRCAD, sometimes there comes a little install screen, tap YES on that
well, after tapping CLRCAD, nothing happens, so that's good
then tap the file HARET, then there comes a progress balk with ''booting linux''
well, then you just need to wait
your mobile's screen turns black, and first there come little white numbers enz, that became bigger ones later
well, just wait a few minutes till your mobile restarts
first you see the white screen with HTC in the middle
then after a minute or something there comes a black screen with Android in the middle
now you're done, and you can start figuring out how everything works
Greetz, Donny
And people, i just made this post cause i couldn't find a FULL build to install android, now it's just all together in one post, and no, i didn't made the downloads or something, it's just to help you
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You couldn't find a full guide? Then I apologize, but you haven't read very well.
See my signature.
This is all well meant which I can understand, but it's another topic about something that is mentioned a gazillion times already...
donny123 said:
not EVERYBODY knows,
yea, people that are working on it knows a lot, but if you just figured out that you can get android @your HTC, you don't really know what to do right?
it's just to help people so i made an acc on xda, i know a lot to...
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ya i understand ur trying too help but leave the how to guides to the seniors please because you have to give more detail then that if ur only try to help noobs plus ur telling then to use darkstones extremely out dated rom i knw ur new donny so im tryin to help you out but posts like this will get ur flamed!! badly this is a dog eat dog thread lol
waste of my time reading this stupid post...what a dumb guy...who allowed him to post this stuff? I think you better stay in the bathroom and do what you really good at...
You could easily instructed: Copy Android folder into SD, and Click on those two files...and wait.
It make you looked so stupid by writing three pages on something that can be said and done via just one line....
My opinion - if to do faq for beginners that to do properly. Why in a cap it is told that it is necessary to establish custom rom and hspl? When it is possible to update simply an firmware on last official? I met many posts where people complained of those or which other problems at me was not. And at all these people stood custom firmware. Conclusions do.
Sorry for my english
please Screenshots
donny123 said:
not EVERYBODY knows,
yea, people that are working on it knows a lot, but if you just figured out that you can get android @your HTC, you don't really know what to do right?
it's just to help people so i made an acc on xda, i know a lot to...
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you have a good intention, but you're just too funny. you're making a guide in a forum full of similar guides that are more comprehensive than yours.
What a load of crap...
Vote here Android fix you want to be next
hey guys
What you see:
You see some Bugs that have to be fixed, you think about the way your are using the phone and set a personal priority.
What you don't see:
-Some Bugs are connected to other Bugs. If you start fixing G-Sensor for example, you also fix Lightsensor..
-Some Bugs need much more time to work on than others. If you want battery to be working perfectly, you will have to wait a loooooooooong time for other fixes. On the other hand some minor bugs, maybe headset i.e., could be done very quickly.(didnt look at it, yet)
-I, for example, can not work on one thing all the time, sometimes i have to switch between the issues
-you try to tell the developers what they have to work on. It could be that some of us have other, personally, priorities, that they want to work on. They do it in their free time, where they could satisfy their girlfriends and wifes
This is not meant as warning or something, just think of it
A Voting could be seen as a public-opinion poll.. but not as a directive for the developers
schlund said:
hey guys
What you see:
You see some Bugs that have to be fixed, you think about the way your are using the phone and set a personal priority.
What you don't see:
-Some Bugs are connected to other Bugs. If you start fixing G-Sensor for example, you also fix Lightsensor..
-Some Bugs need much more time to work on than others. If you want battery to be working perfectly, you will have to wait a loooooooooong time for other fixes. On the other hand some minor bugs, maybe headset i.e., could be done very quickly.(didnt look at it, yet)
-I, for example, can not work on one thing all the time, sometimes i have to switch between the issues
-you try to tell the developers what they have to work on. It could be that some of us have other, personally, priorities, that they want to work on. They do it in their free time, where they could satisfy their girlfriends and wifes
This is not meant as warning or something, just think of it
A Voting could be seen as a public-opinion poll.. but not as a directive for the developers
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I believe most visitor understand your concern Schlund. They are happy you and other devs are working on it regardless the order. Maybe we can look at the poll as an exhaust of our hopes. And only look at it as a directive when you don't know what to decide yourself. So thanks again and keep on the excellent work!
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App
Nice thing Tzacapaca,
for me, the Battery (all),G-sensors and Video fix are the most needed for me.
Thank you for nice posts
schlund said:
A Voting could be seen as a public-opinion poll.. but not as a directive for the developers
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it's my fault, i suggested the idea to tzacapaca
of course this poll is not a work order for devs, but it gives an idea of what is important to the common photon users, and what is less important.
it helps to put priority to the long list of bugs
I hope to increase more SD CARD suport.
I have tested five SD card.But all can't work.
Sandisk 2G x 3
Transcend 8G(class2)x 1
Apacer 4G(class4)x1
ALL card format by "SDFormatter" first,then format again by PC(fat32).
But still can't work......
HALOHA said:
I hope to increase more SD CARD suport.
I have tested five SD card.But all can't work.
Sandisk 2G x 3
Transcend 8G(class2)x 1
Apacer 4G(class4)x1
ALL card format by "SDFormatter" first,then format again by PC(fat32).
But still can't work......
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changing so many cards and still not working?
Then i believe is not cards fault..it's yours
usually guys here after replacing the SD card ONLY ONCE had Android running on their phones.
HALOHA said:
I hope to increase more SD CARD suport.
I have tested five SD card.But all can't work.
Sandisk 2G x 3
Transcend 8G(class2)x 1
Apacer 4G(class4)x1
ALL card format by "SDFormatter" first,then format again by PC(fat32).
But still can't work......
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i had the same. then i used a HARD reset and it works fine.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to put all the known bugs on:
http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/issues/list
And then the devs can update as they wish, so it means everyone can check what bugs exist easily, and also means we can see what the dev's are working on too.
It might stop the repeaded questions of "Is this not working?" as a Forum is good, but information can be lost easily or become snowed under. Atleast this site keeps it clean and accessable?
If you guys do want all the issues on that site, I'm happy to help put them on there... and if I ever do end up buying a new motherboard for my PC i'd be happy to help dev, I know C, C++, Java... would need help setting everything up ready to dev though.
JAntrobus said:
Wouldn't it be a good idea to put all the known bugs on:
http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/issues/list
And then the devs can update as they wish, so it means everyone can check what bugs exist easily, and also means we can see what the dev's are working on too.
It might stop the repeaded questions of "Is this not working?" as a Forum is good, but information can be lost easily or become snowed under. Atleast this site keeps it clean and accessable?
If you guys do want all the issues on that site, I'm happy to help put them on there... and if I ever do end up buying a new motherboard for my PC i'd be happy to help dev, I know C, C++, Java... would need help setting everything up ready to dev though.
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bugs are already posted by r0bin here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073817
what is working and what is not working is posted here http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=PhotonStatus
Devs are aware of the issues so..
tzacapaca said:
bugs are already posted by r0bin here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073817
what is working and what is not working is posted here http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=PhotonStatus
Devs are aware of the issues so..
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True, but there is a difference from having it on a forum or in a table for a website, than having it on a project page. The project page allows them to put what progress the bug is in... it kinda brings the best of both, into one place.
The wiki page is good for a quick reference page of what is and isn't working... but it doesn't provide why its not working. The forum explains why its not working, but it is much more bulky and can easily be lost. It also doesn't state the progress of the 'project' unless it is maintained. Project pages tend to maintain themselves with very little input from the dev's...
In my experience(10 years of working in projects like games etc), the project page is always easier to update and use. Just my input anyway...
Feel free to add the issues to the google code page =)
In fact,I have only one sd card can work android.
It is a Transcend 8G(class2) card,my wife buy that card about helf years ago.
That card can work android very fine on my hd mini and my wife's.
But I have another Transcend 8G(class2) card can't run it.
So I think this android program still have some question.
HALOHA said:
In fact,I have only one sd card can work android.
It is a Transcend 8G(class2) card,my wife buy that card about helf years ago.
That card can work android very fine on my hd mini and my wife's.
But I have another Transcend 8G(class2) card can't run it.
So I think this android program still have some question.
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I bought a 16GB sandisk class2 from a well known auction site for about £14 and it worked from day 1 without formatting it.
If anyone wants a link to it PM me
Sleep and wakeup bug +n cannot install on sd
To report that when the phone sleeps u need to wait for around 3 minutes so that it wakes up ... if it ever does
+
Cannot install apps on sd..
thanks
extremetech said:
To report that when the phone sleeps u need to wait for around 3 minutes so that it wakes up ... if it ever does
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Cannot install apps on sd..
thanks
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it does wake up if you click vol + power
apps can be installed on SD card except angry birds
tzacapaca said:
it does wake up if you click vol + power
apps can be installed on SD card except angry birds
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some other app need tu unmount sd card for instal skull candy app or slice it but we can instal it
tzacapaca said:
bugs are already posted by r0bin here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073817
what is working and what is not working is posted here http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=PhotonStatus
Devs are aware of the issues so..
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that's true, but i created this buglist page before the photon project page was populated.
it is easier to follow on the project page, at the end all the issues shall be posted there. the problem is i could not find the time yet to re-write all the issues in the bug tracker.
so anybody feel free to copy the bugs from this page and populate the issue list, with as much as details as you can write.
(how to recreate the issue, what you expect, what you get instead, on which version, etc)
feel free to open new issues or bug reports as well, nobody will blame you for that, this is the usage of the page ;-)
at least be sure the issue does not exists yet in the bug listing and that you give enough details to understand it!
http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/issues/list
this way we can follow up what isses are pending and what issues have been fixed, and everybody can contribute to this, you can add your own comments to each separate issue and provide a workaround if there is one (today with the buglist on the forum, only me can edit the page, which is not efficient)
i count on you guys, you're part of the photon team
hi all,
i also wanted to add touch screen problem to the bug list...i know that dev's have already corrected most of the touch screen problem that we all were having in the early release and usually there are no problem with it...but while typing text messages or any thing with keypad it gets messy....when i type fast in WM there is no error in words...but in droid it occurs all the time..
so i used smart keyboard pro..it has an option that enables u to see what area u have touched while typing. The touchscreen calibration is still 10-20 % off from where the buttons are and it can't be corrected with the screen calibration option present in settings as i've tried it so many time.
i know its not a big problem and not a priority, all i wanted is to point it out. Maybe when all the major bugs like battery, 3g, etc will be fixed. Dev's can correct this one too..
THankz and thumbs up for everyone who's working and helping in making hd mini a fully workiing android device
sunnyhj said:
hi all,
i also wanted to add touch screen problem to the bug list...i know that dev's have already corrected most of the touch screen problem that we all were having in the early release and usually there are no problem with it...but while typing text messages or any thing with keypad it gets messy....when i type fast in WM there is no error in words...but in droid it occurs all the time..
so i used smart keyboard pro..it has an option that enables u to see what area u have touched while typing. The touchscreen calibration is still 10-20 % off from where the buttons are and it can't be corrected with the screen calibration option present in settings as i've tried it so many time.
i know its not a big problem and not a priority, all i wanted is to point it out. Maybe when all the major bugs like battery, 3g, etc will be fixed. Dev's can correct this one too..
THankz and thumbs up for everyone who's working and helping in making hd mini a fully workiing android device
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+1..i noticed that too,but i thought its just me