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Need a Guidance Counselor (LOL): How to ROM swap.

This could actually help others for I have read many threads and still don't have a clear HOW TO.
The Thread are for Elfs....from reading threads I GUESS I have an Elf(in)....My Box Reads:
HTC Touch [ROM: 256MB; SDRAM: 128MB DDR]
This is a Rogers branded Touch, grayish color. OS is Windows 6 Professional.
Now I have done some registry hacks, shut off animation and sounds (from TouchFlo too) and the Touch is far better than before, but I still find it somewhat laggy, when flipping through apps, eventhough I have the Task Manager off.
After reading many threads I have two routes that I would like help with:
- Being an Avid Palm programmer, who've done it all, including bricking one (lol), I know for a fact that a fresh, light ROM improves performance and makes the unit much zippier. So which ROM would be the best for me? There are so many around and i dunno which is best for my unit.
- Second, Should I just do the Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade, and ride off into the sunset? will it make the unit much better than a custom ROM (i doubt it)...atleast the question is out here.
Lastly, I mainly use the Touch for checking emails, browsing on Wi-fi as well as my network providers'. I use the mobile office a lot, and the messenger as well. For internet browsing I use Netfront, but hope to compare it to the new IE. My aftermarket apps are: SPB Mobile Shell 2.0, Pocket CM, PCM Keyboard, SIP Change, and Advanced Config.
Hope this helps the more experienced members lend me a hand.
Cheers,
Paul

yes!! you should do a rom upfgrade my advice for you is to go with the swiftblades vblue elves rom on the upgrading thread on this great site its very easy for new comers to update their rom using this rom ...its a custom wm6.1 rom ~ so you can ride off into the sunset in style~ and yea 6.1 is alot better than 6,0 its got a threaded sms and it fixes the memory leak...
oh and if you have just post a reply on the forum you got the rom froum usually swiftblade himself will help who ever is having trouble and if he doesnt theres alot of other xda brothers and sisters that will help assist you were like a family here dont be affraid to ask questions theres no stupid questions just stupid people!!!! oh and stupid answers!! ~
and here you go i will help you out with the rom updating process it is very simple but worry some... the reason im saying use blue elves is because it has a cid unlocker built into the package... and it has very clear instructions!!!
FOR FIRST TIME CUSTOM ROM UPGRADERS:
1. Copy the Cert_SPCS.CAB and EnableRapi.CAB from the zip folder to your device's Storage Card.(###*** you dont have to do this step if you have allready used the sim unlocker program!!***###)
2. Install the two cabs to your Device memory and do a soft reset.
3. Restart your PC or laptop (Optional)
USING THE INTEGRATED ROM UPDATE UTILITY WITH USPL CID UNLOCKER:
(ATTENTION: REMOVE YOUR 4GB, 6GB or 8GB mircoSDHC CARD WHEN FLASHING THIS ROM!)
1. Turn off your computer's Anti-Virus software if you can. ( not nescary )
2. Activesync your device to your PC using USB port.
3. When the connection is completed (after synchronisation), double-click on [START] batch file to begin the integrated ROM Updating Utility.
4. Now follow closely the instructions that appear on the computer screen.
5. Press [ENTER] to accept at each prompt to continue the process.
6. After Step 2/3 of USPL CID Unlocker, the device screen will turns "blank white" and your activesync icon gray (in Windows XP only).
Congratulations! You have successfully CID unlocked your device. Press [ENTER] to proceed NOW!
(NB: If you failed to see the "blank white" screen, then your CID unlocking has failed.
Restart your installation process from Step No.1)
(####**** now dont panic if you dont get the white screen just soft reset your device sticking the tip of your styulus in the hole to the right of the usb port... then you may get the tri color loader dont panic just soft reset again then you may get a screen that will prompt you on a few things ###***your screen will not respond.... this is when you remember you have HARD KEYS!!!!! youll need to use them in this if you get it***### dont panic yet just continue pmce your started again set up active sync and start your process all over again!!! your phone shouldnt be bricked
7. Your device will now proceed to update your rom. Select and hit [NEXT] at each prompt to continue.
8. When the rom updating is completed at 100%, your device will restart automatically.
9. Congratz! You have successfully upgraded to a new rom.
Enjoy & Lots of Have Fun!
(((####****and remember this is why you DIDNT BUY AN IPHONE!!! ****####)))

Thank you very much Bereda, and thanks for such a warm welcome. My next question is....which of all the ROMS is the one that I want? I see several versions and only one says Touch on it, the rest say Elf, Elf(in), etc. Mine on the box says Touch, but in here it seems that the Elf is also the Touch, a bit confused...
Cheers,
Paul

i also recomand this rom.

I will go ahead and give it a go, as soon as I know which is the best ROM for my Equipment.
Thanks OmerS,
Paul

Beginner
I have no idea what I am doing. LOL. Why would I do a Rom upgrade??? And secondly where can I upgrade to WM 6.1. I have the HTC Touch..Please help!!!

AfflictedSatisfaction5, Welcome to the Club. A clean ROM eliminates many apps that one rarely uses, that consumes memory and normally are replaced by other third party apps. In General, a modified ROM runs quicker and better than the OE ROM.
You can find the WM 6.1 upgrade on the Microsoft Windows Mobile Site and take it from there OR Get a custom ROM with WM 6.1 already there.
I am just waiting to see which ROM is the one for my phone, since there are several variants of internal ROM memory (64, 128, 256, etc).
Cheers,
Paul

If you have a Rogers branded HTC Touch, BEFORE you do anything, try to dump your ROM. (Read around, you'll find how to do it). The community, including myself, been struggling with this for months. Thanks.

Evilmonkey...will search for ROM dumping...by the way, it IS a Rogers Branded HTC....BUT...my phone will not be used for Rogers network, but for a latin american company called Viva.
Cheers,
Paul

after u dump backup ur current rom.. i suggest u make up ur mind what u want for instance, there are many many variants of touch roms around here ranging from bare naked clean bases to fat boy mem hogging bloated ones.. u can check my thread for a clean base rom or try kokotas's new rom (its fresh) blue elves and shadow ce takes the cake like always
happy flashing

i didn't dump my rom and i have a rogers htc touch aka htc elfin... not elf so paul you have a elfin... and trust me stick with the custom roms theres no need to dump your rom due to the fact that theres like 20 of the "rogers" rom on here already just download a copy of it and your set... thats if you want to step backwards and go back to stock...if you get a stripped down rom from the windows mobile website you loose out on all the features that make this phone a touch and a iphone killer... i think its wrong to take out the cube and other programs that are made for the touch! these programs are why you bought a touch in the first place... its like buying a Lamborghini and taking the five speed and the v12 out of the car and replacing it with a automatic transmission and putting in a little 1.8 litter v4... like what would be the point of buying a Lamborghini if your going to make it just like all the other economy cars... plus you could have saved your self a ton of time and just bought a 318i bmw... and for the people that do strip it down to nothing, why didnt you just buy the htc p3300 plain and simple htc ppc like all the rest.

bereda said:
i think its wrong to take out the cube and other programs that are made for the touch! these programs are why you bought a touch in the first place
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instead of making judgements, i suggest you read the specifications and reasons mentioned by the great rom builders of xda in their threads why they have striped down their roms. people may buy touch so they can get a faster 201mhz device at economy prices
its like buying a Lamborghini and taking the five speed and the v12 out of the car and replacing it with a automatic transmission and putting in a little 1.8 litter v4... like what would be the point of buying a Lamborghini if your going to make it just like all the other economy cars... plus you could have saved your self a ton of time and just bought a 318i bmw
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i dont know anything in detail about cars but i'll still add my 2 cents. its more like buying a lamborghini and heavily tweaking it by stripping the parts and adding some, removing some and building a entirely new car out of that to suite each one's individual likes and dislikes. having done that you get a personalised car designed by your own hands and will n wish
for the people that do strip it down to nothing, why didnt you just buy the htc p3300 plain and simple htc ppc like all the rest
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two words for that one "MORE SPEED" i suggest you take a look at this http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=619&id2=947 and you'll find the answer why we dont buy p3300 against a touch. its good to retain the looks of the touch and have more speed like dual and more options for functionality as per our likes n dislikes
hope paul finds what he is looking out for. i personally dont advice and support picking up a rom from an expert and editing it to your tune. either use it as is or build your own rom happy cooking or flashing

Ha ha ha ha ha, thanks Bereda and thanks Ababrekar, and please...be nice
Bereda: Thanks for the explanation NOW i know my is an "ELFin", LOL, only knew it as a Touch. Thanks also for the tip...so I shouldn't dump it, i don't have a lot of things on my phone....3 weeks old so..... the personal data or course is backed up.
Ababrekar: Thanks for the encouragement pal... Like Bereda said, I'd like the HTC pack that is offered on the Blue Elves ROM, plus if you read my initial post.. most of the apps i used (SIP Change, PCM keyboard,etc) are already in that ROM so....
I take it this is the ROM I want....right? :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364901
Can never be too sure...
Thanks for taking the time.

bereda said:
i didn't dump my rom and i have a rogers htc touch aka htc elfin... not elf so paul you have a elfin... and trust me stick with the custom roms theres no need to dump your rom due to the fact that theres like 20 of the "rogers" rom on here already just download a copy of it and your set... thats if you want to step backwards and go back to stock...
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Can you please point me to at least one? Also, it's a "step backward" for warranty and de-bricking purposes.
Paul, it's okay that its from Latin America, as long as the phone says rogers. Thanks.

evilmonkey1987... umm im not sure but i think that flashing will void warentee iwith any rom even plain wm6.1 because the elf and the elfin and the voque(sprint version of elfin) are all standerd
wm6.0 but heres the good part you can allways flash back for warntee purposes say you need to send it back and they cant
tell at all hehehehe!!! its a sneaky move but its well worth it!!!
sorry i thought you ment point you to a plain wm6.1 hahaha sorry ill find one
PAUL... yea thats it had it when i first flashed to wm6.1 and loved it but make sure you flash a radio with it!!!!!! its very simple to do ... heres the radio link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342265
and
heres a little step by step
1. connect using active sync (after youv flashed the new rom of course )
2.remove sim and sd card
3. locate elf uspl and open it it will bring you to a dos screen *(windows command screen)*
4.press enter continue until you get to step 2/3 press enter then your elfs screen will turn white just like when your flashing the rom then !!!!!!STOPPPP!!!!!!! do not continue to press enter make sure your screen is white!!!!
(####****if your screen doesnt turn white start proicess again****###)
5. open up the radio folder while still keeping the dos screen up
6. youll find a operation call ruu which stands for rom update utility start that
7. follow the on screen steps and it will work fine
8 enjoy
*****#### in bothe the uspl unlocker and in the start batch file it will say elf... dont panic you have the RIGHT!!! FILE AND OPERATION....####****

Will do it tonight, btw.....STUPID QUESTION NO.1:
What is a Radio?

the radio is what is used to get your calls its what gives you your signal and there are every now and then a update for the phones which will either give you more signal or better call quality

Thanks for asking these questions, I had the same ones in my head

Installation Froze. I am on step 2, 75%...Touch/Elfin Reads:
Welcome to Haret
VRAM ADDR: 0X200001020
CREATING PRELOADER 1:1 MAPPING.
PREJUMPER IS AT 0X17EF40000
JUMPING TO SYSTEM MODE...
LOADING SPL TO RAM....
waited 10 minutes, nothing has happened. I removed the USB cable
the program on my screen stated that the Touch should have a white screen, if not, to repeat steps. SHould I restart/reset the Touch?
Help needed, I'll wait a while see if I get a response from one of you

Removed Battery, Restarted Phone, everything seems as before i did anything....gonna re-try the ROM upgrade from Step 1.
Restarting Computer....

sync with disk drive option or sync with outlook?

sorry for the dumb question but i accidently clicked the "dont show this message again" check box on my phone when trying to sync for the first time on my pc when it prompts you with the two options on my phone. how can i get that option back and also does it make a difference which one i choose to download cabs to my phone? i think i made sense? also im looking for the CLEAN RAM, SOFT RESET BUTTON, WIFI BUTTON download link but cant find it nowhere in this forum. thanks for any replies i have been reading all these posts for the last month, finally got my hd2 yesterday! didnt really understand what everyone talked about due to not having my phone to experiment! nwbie to the whole windows thing but very excited to learn all there is to know.

parmakr said:
sorry for the dumb question but i accidently clicked the "dont show this message again" check box on my phone when trying to sync for the first time on my pc when it prompts you with the two options on my phone. how can i get that option back and also does it make a difference which one i choose to download cabs to my phone? i think i made sense? also im looking for the CLEAN RAM, SOFT RESET BUTTON, WIFI BUTTON download link but cant find it nowhere in this forum. thanks for any replies i have been reading all these posts for the last month, finally got my hd2 yesterday! didnt really understand what everyone talked about due to not having my phone to experiment! nwbie to the whole windows thing but very excited to learn all there is to know.
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On the bottom slider--- Settings > Other > Usb to pc and check the bottom box. I never use outlook sync, just disk drive to transfer files. Here is the file for clean ram...its the only one I have.

parmakr said:
sorry for the dumb question but i accidently clicked the "dont show this message again" check box on my phone when trying to sync for the first time on my pc when it prompts you with the two options on my phone. how can i get that option back and also does it make a difference which one i choose to download cabs to my phone? i think i made sense? also im looking for the CLEAN RAM, SOFT RESET BUTTON, WIFI BUTTON download link but cant find it nowhere in this forum. thanks for any replies i have been reading all these posts for the last month, finally got my hd2 yesterday! didnt really understand what everyone talked about due to not having my phone to experiment! nwbie to the whole windows thing but very excited to learn all there is to know.
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go to settings>>menu>>all settings>>connections>>usb to PC and put a check mark on ask me first about USB...
for tweaks and cabs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415 just read through it you'll find what you need.
get cookies home tab here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483 for editing your sense home tab and add cookie home tab editor http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633590. these two works together.
and for more tweaks and eye candy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639002.
A word of caution read, re-read, and be cautious....
Happy tweaking and WELCOME to XDA the best place for modding and tweaking.

thanks secano and spencer911 i appreciate your help guys looking forward to tweaking my new hd2. thanks for the welcoming!

[Guide] Fully working android guide :)

Hey guys, this post is just my way in saying thanks for all the help all of you guys have given me and for making it possible to have android on my HD2
Basically I have been doing some testing and have come up with a combination of things you can do to give yourself a fully working android build Ofcorse some of the information I had to test with was provided by other members but this combination I think is flawless, well at least it is for me ^^.
To begin you’re going to want to get the right WM rom for your android, and after testing I found the best one to be
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734238
I have not had any problems with it. Just flash it to your device and let’s go from there.
Next your going to want to do something allot of members do not think of doing, and that is formatting the SD card PROPERLY, as this eliminates allot of problems for various reasons. The correct way to do this is, boot yourself into Linux, Ubuntu is the easiest in my eyes, and you can get it on a live CD or USB so it’s easy to get into, just boot into Ubuntu plug in your SDcard and its better if you can insert it via an SDcard slot in an adapter. Then format it as FAT not FAT32, I wont explain why this is better, but it will. Check this out if you really want to know why you need to do it ^^ but you don’t really need to know
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750780
Next thing is your android build. Now there are ALOT of builds that work well but there is only one that I believe can give you a real working android experience, and the next part of this guide is based on this build so I suggest you use it .
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740963
Ok, so you have got your build on your card you have booted into it and it’s ready to go, right? Not yet. One of the most annoying things that occur in android under the HD2 is the random freezing and this is how I removed this pesky little annoyance.
1. Unlock your screen and hit the settings key (windows key)
2. Hit settings
3. Hit Cyanogenmod Settings
4. Hit User Interface
5. Scroll down to Accelerometer rotation
6. Make sure ONLY 90 degrees is ticked!
7. Done
Now that setting is how I have managed to eliminate the problem, but don’t worry if you still have this issue, just go back into the Cyanogenmod settings and turn off 90 degrees and then under display turn off Auto-rotate screen, this should eliminate the problems but then your screen wont rotate automatically so its swings and roundabouts really ^^
Top Tips!
DONT use live wallpapers, they WILL kill your battery and drastically decrease the performance of your HD2!
Turn off the GPS as it is on by Default, it drains battery ALOT and isn't necessary most of the time ^^
Get the XDA app because its mega? And you suck if you don’t!
Calibrate the Gsensor, it will reduce the screen freezes (that’s if you even have them, witch you shouldn’t after this guide: P)
Finally, always remember that you should turn off your phone to charge it OR have it booted into WinMo, allot of reasons why you should do this but again just do it
Hope this helped someone somewhere Its my first real post that gave something back to the community and I AM a noob hehe, so any addition to this guide is welcome ^^ Again thanks allot all you guys at XDA that made this possible and I will keep this updated as necessary
Thanks allot. Dane.

xpstyle36 said:
1. Unlock your screen and hit the settings key (windows key)
2. Hit settings
3. Hit Cyanogenmod Settings
4. Hit User Interface
5. Scroll down to Accelerometer rotation
6. Make sure ONLY 90 degrees is ticked!
7. Done
Now that setting is how I have managed to eliminate the problem, but don’t worry if you still have this issue, just go back into the Cyanogenmod settings and turn off 90 degrees and then under display turn off Auto-rotate screen, this should eliminate the problems but then your screen wont rotate automatically so its swings and roundabouts really ^^
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Calibrate the Gsensor, it will reduce the screen freezes (that’s if you even have them, witch you shouldn’t after this guide: P)
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If this works, I'll be eternally grateful.

shadiku said:
If this works, I'll be eternally grateful.
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I hope it works for you but remember if you didn't follow all the other steps I cant guarantee and fix and even if it doesn't work, you can disable all screen rotation as I mentioned and this SHOULD fix your problem ^^ I really do hope it works for ya.
Dane.

Forgot to discuss about RADIOS and HARDSPL.
Common man.

FriedSushi87 said:
Forgot to discuss about RADIOS and HARDSPL.
Common man.
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Well if your looking at this guide, you probably already have HardSPL :l and even if you didn't when you take a look at the ROM pages it explains it there, so I don't think its very productive or helpful to post random crap like that :l And as for the radio, i tested several radios and it didn't make any difference TO ME but if you really want to know the radio i am running its, 2.12.50. Happy now ?
Dane.

xpstyle36 said:
Well if your looking at this guide, you probably already have HardSPL :l and even if you didn't when you take a look at the ROM pages it explains it there, so I don't think its very productive or helpful to post random crap like that :l And as for the radio, i tested several radios and it didn't make any difference TO ME but if you really want to know the radio i am running its, 2.12.50. Happy now ?
Dane.
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I think it's incredibly important to post that here.
Imagine someone sees an HD2 with android or hears about it from a friend, does a quick google search and finds this thread.
They come in here looking for a quick fix for android....
They could end up bricking their device or something....

FriedSushi87 said:
I think it's incredibly important to post that here.
Imagine someone sees an HD2 with android or hears about it from a friend, does a quick google search and finds this thread.
They come in here looking for a quick fix for android....
They could end up bricking their device or something....
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/sigh, what are you trying to do here ? cause problems.if you had never even heard about android on HD2 you take one look at the writing in this post and think WHAT, it says things like Flash it to your device and lets go. you wouldnt know how to flash or even what it meant, so you couldn't even brick your device as you would not know how :l Please stop filling up this thread that i made to HELP people not argue with some guy who keeps coming up with random crap that is not going to happen, and i am not being unreasonable by saying that and i am sure many other members will agree im not in the wrong.
Dane.

Unfortunately still having the screen freezes, even after toying with CyanogenMod settings.
Back to the waiting game then.

shadiku said:
Unfortunately still having the screen freezes, even after toying with CyanogenMod settings.
Back to the waiting game then.
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Did you turn off all the screen rotation under cm settings and normal settings and did you calibrate the Gsensor these things can also resolve the problem, you can also disable the Gsensor in WinMO and this will cure your problem but thats not reccomended ^^ Give those suggestions a try, again hope it works for you.
Dane.

Are we allowed to start a poll asking people which mainstream rom they're using just so we know what is the most common and popular rom is,? Or is it a taboo?

xpstyle36 said:
Did you turn off all the screen rotation under cm settings and normal settings and did you calibrate the Gsensor these things can also resolve the problem, you can also disable the Gsensor in WinMO and this will cure your problem but thats not reccomended ^^ Give those suggestions a try, again hope it works for you.
Dane.
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I turned all the screen rotation off. Since I'm using ChuckyDroidROM, the gsensor calibration is removed.
In android, it worked for a while but tilting it continually in Gallery3D caused a freeze.
I wish I could disable the theming on shubCRAFT, it's the only thing that puts me off using it.

I think that if you look at this thread you will see
xpstyle36 said:
Next your going to want to do something allot of members do not think of doing, and that is formatting the SD card PROPERLY, as this eliminates allot of problems for various reasons. The correct way to do this is, boot yourself into Linux, Ubuntu is the easiest in my eyes, and you can get it on a live CD or USB so it’s easy to get into, just boot into Ubuntu plug in your SDcard and its better if you can insert it via an SDcard slot in an adapter. Then format it as FAT not FAT32, I wont explain why this is better, but it will. Check this out if you really want to know why you need to do it ^^ but you don’t really need to know
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that this method is a lot of trouble for no additional benefit over a simple format using WinMo in the phone. If you would "explain why" it would be interesting because no one else can. A full WinMo format, not quick, overwrites the complete data space on an SD card with new redundant data. It also only reserves and writes one FAT where Windows on the PC reserves and writes two. You can't get something from nothing and WinMo non-quick format leaves nothing in the data space. (And yes I do understand full mil spec data destruction and redundent and random erase so everything is destroyed.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760996&page=5

johnboatcat said:
that this method is a lot of trouble for no additional benefit over a simple format using WinMo in the phone. If you would "explain why" it would be interesting because no one else can. A full WinMo format, not quick, overwrites the complete data space on an SD card with new redundant data. It also only reserves and writes one FAT where Windows on the PC reserves and writes two. You can't get something from nothing and WinMo non-quick format leaves nothing in the data space. (And yes I do understand full mil spec data destruction and redundent and random erase so everything is destroyed.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760996&page=5
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Well i may be wrong but as far as i was aware, when you put a linux android build on your SDcard it creates a partition or something like that on the card, (i will look it up and get back to you) and windows cannot see it, wheras linux can see it and therefore it can wipe it, and these left over bits that windows cant see dont always get on when you get a new build Thanks for pointing it out though, just wanna help as many as possible ^^
Thanks
Dane.

shadiku said:
I turned all the screen rotation off. Since I'm using ChuckyDroidROM, the gsensor calibration is removed.
In android, it worked for a while but tilting it continually in Gallery3D caused a freeze.
I wish I could disable the theming on shubCRAFT, it's the only thing that puts me off using it.
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To be honest i think that if you got yourself a Shubcraft build and then followed the guide then you would end up with a pretty stable build, with no freezing, but if you dont like the theme, then i guess that there is nothing i can do, but hope that a sense version of it is relesed so that you can get yourself a nice stable build ;D
Thanks again.
Dane.

shubcraft themes and "stock"
If you dont like the shubcraft theme you can use this ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760641
there is even a shub version 1.4c with "stock" Froyo theme here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760641&page=3
thanks to all dev's & builders

ugghuggh said:
If you dont like the shubcraft theme you can use this ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760641
there is even a shub version 1.4c with "stock" Froyo theme here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760641&page=3
thanks to all dev's & builders
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Ah ! Thanks alot ^^ Hey ! now you can download that one, follow the instructions and hopefully get a working build D:
Thanks again
Dane.

FriedSushi87 said:
Forgot to discuss about RADIOS and HARDSPL.
Common man.
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FriedSushi87 said:
I think it's incredibly important to post that here.
Imagine someone sees an HD2 with android or hears about it from a friend, does a quick google search and finds this thread.
They come in here looking for a quick fix for android....
They could end up bricking their device or something....
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@friedsushi definitely agree with you it isn't clarified correctly about different radios affecting the android or that hspl is necessary for it to work. I am constantly getting people pming me to ask for a walkthrough, which on most occasions I have been able to get this working even though my wordage is more simplified in layman's terms-his looks like its been copy/pasted from all over these pages which in effect isn't a bad thing but to call it a guide and not including vital information is a bit haphazard IMO.
& to the op I am not flaming you but there are already guides out there & don't particularly need another unfinished version to add to the numerous threads which have only just been cleaned up by the mods, plus with only 11 posts 8 of which are on here I honestly don't see much experience to be able to give people guides

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@friedsushi definitely agree with you it isn't clarified correctly about different radios affecting the android or that hspl is necessary for it to work. I am constantly getting people pming me to ask for a walkthrough, which on most occasions I have been able to get this working even though my wordage is more simplified in layman's terms-his looks like its been copy/pasted from all over these pages which in effect isn't a bad thing but to call it a guide and not including vital information is a bit haphazard IMO.
& to the op I am not flaming you but there are already guides out there & don't particularly need another unfinished version to add to the numerous threads which have only just been cleaned up by the mods.
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I dont get it ? not one word of this was copied and pasted from someone else, and this is just the process i went through to get it to work perfectly, i didnt include the parts about the HardSPL and the radio because, i tryed a few different radios and it made no difference to me AND you wouldn't be able to flash or follow these instructions if you didnt know what hard SPL was. Again i am not flaming but i was just providing a set of instructions that i did, to get it working. So its not a unfinished guide, just because it didnt include some realy basic information. Sorry if i did not make this 100% noob friendly, was just trying to get a few more phones running stable ^^
Dane.

No one discussed any where about the below scenarios.
If booting to android, Phone reboots.
If already in booted and trying to make a call or check email again booted.Always getting booten in android randomly after trying various builds.
Anyone has answer for thatt?
Thanks

[Q] Can you keep me from throwing my HD2 off a 12 story bldg?

I loved this phone -- at first, i got one of the first from Tmobile, was all excited. Then it kept freezing. 2 "new" HD2s later i hate it. And at the moment, I have a horrific sinus infection and no patience to find the links to the drivers and i want to take it to my husband's office and throw it off the top of the building. Unfortunately i think, since it's a police station, they'd frown upon that.
I also don't understand "computer" speak... please help me in "stupid person" terms if you can
1. A new driver to keep it from freezing, locking up etc. Every time i'm doing something, like typing a text mssg - and i'm recving a text mssg, the darn thing needs to be rebooted!
2. Tell me what i need to do to keep getting my gmail without the damn thing overheating and draining the battery.
3. Cool apps/games -- preferably free (i have kids that need to be entertained mid-air)
4. the name of a good bluetooth device.
If you can help me and you live within the 415, 510, 408, or 925 area codes i can reward you with cupcakes (when i'm no longer sick of course) -- i bake them professionally.
Also, can the hd2 with win 6.5 be upgraded to win 7? and if so, how?

mity287 said:
I loved this phone -- at first, i got one of the first from Tmobile, was all excited. Then it kept freezing. 2 "new" HD2s later i hate it. And at the moment, I have a horrific sinus infection and no patience to find the links to the drivers and i want to take it to my husband's office and throw it off the top of the building. Unfortunately i think, since it's a police station, they'd frown upon that.
I also don't understand "computer" speak... please help me in "stupid person" terms if you can
1. A new driver to keep it from freezing, locking up etc. Every time i'm doing something, like typing a text mssg - and i'm recving a text mssg, the darn thing needs to be rebooted!
2. Tell me what i need to do to keep getting my gmail without the damn thing overheating and draining the battery.
3. Cool apps/games -- preferably free (i have kids that need to be entertained mid-air)
4. the name of a good bluetooth device.
If you can help me and you live within the 415, 510, 408, or 925 area codes i can reward you with cupcakes (when i'm no longer sick of course) -- i bake them professionally.
Also, can the hd2 with win 6.5 be upgraded to win 7? and if so, how?
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1. WHich ROM do you use, Stock or Custom?
2. Gmail never has a problem with WInmo. We all know about the battery drains. You can either buy the extended battery or else turn off your 3G and Wifi when not needed (set everything manually)
3.I dont know about much about games and apps in WInmo. But, I like to play teeter, neon and bejewel
4. I have bluetooth devices from SOny Ericsson and Motorolla. All is good in term of quality.
Cheers..

silverwind said:
1. WHich ROM do you use, Stock or Custom?
2. Gmail never has a problem with WInmo. We all know about the battery drains. You can either buy the extended battery or else turn off your 3G and Wifi when not needed (set everything manually)
3.I dont know about much about games and apps in WInmo. But, I like to play teeter, neon and bejewel
4. I have bluetooth devices from SOny Ericsson and Motorolla. All is good in term of quality.
Cheers..
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1. Stock -- last time i did the Tmobile "update" it just made it worse so i did a factory reset and have been living with it ever since. Custom would be awesome since my "1 yr warranty" no longer exists.
2. seems too time consuming when the darn thing doesn't like to do what i ask in the first place
3. i have all those games
4. i'll try those, sick of using the corded one and my bluetooth broke.

1) Your T-Mobile HD2 needs no driver. What it needs is a Custom Rom because it seems that you have the Stock Rom 2.13 or 3.14. First you need to Unlock your device with HSPL3 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433 . Here is the Link for your TMOUS HD2 Roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=992 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
2) Your device overheats because you might be running alot of programs or streaming alot of media on your device.
3) For games theres alot of sites for instance http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-game.html
4) I dont normally use a bluetooth so i dont have an answer to that.
5) Yes, your phone Windows Mobile 6.5 can be hack and upgrade it Windows Phone 7 with the latest rom with NoDo thanks to DFT for making it possible to run Windows Phone 7 and YukiXDA Rom for the NoDo rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080950
I hope this helps

thebest1 said:
1) Your T-Mobile HD2 needs no driver. What it needs is a Custom Rom because it seems that you have the Stock Rom 2.13 or 3.14. First you need to Unlock your device with HSPL3 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433 . Here is the Link for your TMOUS HD2 Roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=992 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
2) Your device overheats because you might be running alot of programs or streaming alot of media on your device.
3) For games theres alot of sites for instance http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-game.html
4) I dont normally use a bluetooth so i dont have an answer to that.
5) Yes, your phone Windows Mobile 6.5 can be hack and upgrade it Windows Phone 7 with the latest rom with NoDo thanks to DFT for making it possible to run Windows Phone 7 and YukiXDA Rom for the NoDo rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080950
I hope this helps
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1. i need someone to explain the link (original thread) in rom for dummies
2. i try to exit out of everything when i'm done with it -- HD2 really needs a task mangager
3. thx for the link
4. i need one for driving, it's the law in California.
5. i will try that when everything else is said and done.

mity287 said:
I loved this phone -- at first, i got one of the first from Tmobile, was all excited. Then it kept freezing. 2 "new" HD2s later i hate it. And at the moment, I have a horrific sinus infection and no patience to find the links to the drivers and i want to take it to my husband's office and throw it off the top of the building. Unfortunately i think, since it's a police station, they'd frown upon that.
I also don't understand "computer" speak... please help me in "stupid person" terms if you can
1. A new driver to keep it from freezing, locking up etc. Every time i'm doing something, like typing a text mssg - and i'm recving a text mssg, the darn thing needs to be rebooted!
2. Tell me what i need to do to keep getting my gmail without the damn thing overheating and draining the battery.
3. Cool apps/games -- preferably free (i have kids that need to be entertained mid-air)
4. the name of a good bluetooth device.
If you can help me and you live within the 415, 510, 408, or 925 area codes i can reward you with cupcakes (when i'm no longer sick of course) -- i bake them professionally.
Also, can the hd2 with win 6.5 be upgraded to win 7? and if so, how?
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1. As the above post said you do not need any drivers. I recommend you look into a custom Windows Mobile ROM like any of the Energy or Duttys ROMs. You can also check into running android on it or WP7. Any of those three choices run a lot smoother then a stock ROM.
2. Sorry I could never get my HD2 to even set up my gmail account in the Manila/Sense email.
3. again agree with the above post, go to freewarepocketpc.net to get the Omarket, it has a lot of free games. Also do several Google searches for games for Windows Mobile 6.5.
4. Sorry again no advice here, I do not use any bluetooth devices.
5. Yes you can put Windows Phone 7 on your HD2. Click on the guide in my sig and read the very first couple of paragraphs and you will find a link to a guide on how to install WP7. You can also check out the rest as it might bed helpful to you. I also have two guides to installing Andriod linked close to the link for the WP7 guide. I recommend the WP7 ROM by YukiXDA as it is the newest and only WP7 ROM for the HD2 that has NoDo working.
Last make sure you do plenty of reading and researching before attempting any OS change, it is best to be informed.

T-Macgnolia said:
1. As the above post said you do not need any drivers. I recommend you look into a custom Windows Mobile ROM like any of the Energy or Duttys ROMs. You can also check into running android on it or WP7. Any of those three choices run a lot smoother then a stock ROM.
2. Sorry I could never get my HD2 to even set up my gmail account in the Manila/Sense email.
3. again agree with the above post, go to freewarepocketpc.net to get the Omarket, it has a lot of free games. Also do several Google searches for games for Windows Mobile 6.5.
4. Sorry again no advice here, I do not use any bluetooth devices.
5. Yes you can put Windows Phone 7 on your HD2. Click on the guide in my sig and read the very first couple of paragraphs and you will find a link to a guide on how to install WP7. You can also check out the rest as it might bed helpful to you. I also have two guides to installing Andriod linked close to the link for the WP7 guide. I recommend the WP7 ROM by YukiXDA as it is the newest and only WP7 ROM for the HD2 that has NoDo working.
Last make sure you do plenty of reading and researching before attempting any OS change, it is best to be informed.
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1. i have NO idea how to go about doing any of this. Seriously, i am a computer/electronics dummy. i'm lucky i can turn the darn thing on. when instructions are saying check your HSPL OSPL SPL, unistall it, save it to SD, rename it, or whatever, i have NO idea how to go about doing that. so please someone help me here.

HSPL is like the key to the phones guts... SPL is what the phone comes with by default that is the LOCK of the phone.. Cotulla managed to change it around and called it HSPL so with that you can do stuff on your HD2 that HTC and Microsoft don't want you doing...
So by putting HSPL following the guides mentioned your simply starting a Windows Application that will restart you phone into the phones bootloader or SPL (what turns on at first and is covered by the HTC logo or T mobiles Stick Together)
then it flashes (installs) HSPL so that your phone becomes unlocked to custom ROMS or modified update packages and in turn allows you to put MAGLDR which is a custom DFT (Dark Forces Team) project that after HSPL is loaded a new Operating System Loader starts up and allows you to run Android or Windows Phone from the phones internal memory. Radios are a little bit risky since some Radios will brake your device and make it unusable but for some people its worth the risk with improved Cell coverage and Faster speeds but in some cases drains the battery faster. You have the latest Radio since it was included with T-Mobiles 3.14
In your case if don't want Windows Mobile 6 then the alternatives are either Android with its large Market Place or Windows Phone (new) with its some what limited Market but with free games none the less
BUT a custom build of Windows Mobile 6 will have better performance since it won't be filled with T-Mobiles junk and you will be familiar with it instead of switching to Android or Windows Phone with their different Interface

Just read t-mac's guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837

keep in mind to explain everything COMPLETELY so you can understand over online text might be a little tedious. here's a guide to flash android onto your phone, but it isn't limited to android. you can flash windows phone 7 roms similarly. i can empathize with you, there was a time i didn't know what anyone was talking about but take it all in stride, do some looking around the forums and see if you can gradually understand what people are saying. trust me, just grab a hot coffee sit down and browse through things i have faith you'll figure things out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

mity287 said:
1. i have NO idea how to go about doing any of this. Seriously, i am a computer/electronics dummy. i'm lucky i can turn the darn thing on. when instructions are saying check your HSPL OSPL SPL, unistall it, save it to SD, rename it, or whatever, i have NO idea how to go about doing that. so please someone help me here.
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Then why are you even here?
You have absolutely zero chance of been able to do any of this simply because you obviously are not even prepared to go and sit down and read. If you was you would be reading teh guides and sticky topics etc instead of back and forth in this topic.

Dump Windows Mobile, and go Android There are a bunch of guides in the Android thread, if you get overwhelmed you can always post a question
But if you still decided to throw it from the 12th floor, let me know when and where...

HTC 7 Trophy running mango

Today I got the invitation to install mango on my trophy, have any one installed mango and any trouble with the beta.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Hello,
Yes i already installed MAngo on Trophy and it works perfect, i have it from 3 days and its run awesome, very fast and stable..
Regards

One of the best upgrades I have made to my phone so far, although it took me 4 tries until I finally had mango unlocked XD.
Messenger integration with the phone is pretty nice (although buggy sometimes)

Mango is the bizniss! I had to tinker with my actual location to get access to services though. Live tiles for a lot of apps,stay away from the 3g if you're on prepaid.

I will also agree, Mango is well worth the upgrade, I have it on my Verizon HTC Trophy. Runs perfect and all the new features are worth it.

Doesnt even feel like a beta, perfect!

Hi
Newbie for wp7.
Where to download mango for trophy ?
I bought the Xbox game, after upgrade to mango,
The game will b delete o not ?
Thanks

stussy said:
Hi
Newbie for wp7.
Where to download mango for trophy ?
I bought the Xbox game, after upgrade to mango,
The game will b delete o not ?
Thanks
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I haven't upgraded yet but from what i understand all settings, games etc will still exist after upgrade.
If you do need to download the game again, then the marketplace will recognise the previous purchase.

The applications did remain after the update, but I official updated the phone to mango.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Thanks for your info, but u haven't tell me where to download MANGO ????!!!!

stussy said:
Thanks for your info, but u haven't tell me where to download MANGO ????!!!!
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You have to be invited from Microsoft to try it out...

tsupersonic said:
You have to be invited from Microsoft to try it out...
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Hi tsupersoni
Any way or link to download it ?
Can you send me ?
Thanks

tsupersonic said:
You have to be invited from Microsoft to try it out...
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Really ? Have you not looked or are you just being rude ? The info on this has been out on the net over a week now how to install this on a non-dev phone. You don't even need to unlock your phone.
This info is ALL over this site, never mind the big Win phone 7 sites...(check the WP7 areas on this site)
Read all the details here...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/2123450-post27.html
After reading that you could be installing it in 5 min, but, the whole process takes about 2-3 hours (so plan on not using your phone in that window)
I wrote the PPCgeeks page...btw it works awsome on the HTC Trophy.

DavidinCT said:
Really ? Have you not looked or are you just being rude ? The info on this has been out on the net over a week now how to install this on a non-dev phone. You don't even need to unlock your phone.
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Well Said
When I hear things like this - I grind my teeth
and hope someone else says something
Thank You Well Done

chill dude, I wasn't aware of that. I will admit I didn't read the whole thread if you mentioned it before.

Thanks bro DavidCt.
I downloaded n installed. Its amazing !!
Can feel the different. But sad is still no flash support n custom ringtone.

stussy said:
Thanks bro DavidCt.
I downloaded n installed. Its amazing !!
Can feel the different. But sad is still no flash support n custom ringtone.
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It is pretty awsome but, keep in mind, it is a beta (there will be bugs) and make sure you keep your backup, you might need to restore back before you go to the final version. Your right, no Adobe flash but, you can install custom ring tones.
Talys said:
Custom Ringtones
1. Copy MP3 or WMA to Zune Collection. Choose Edit, and type in manually under Genre "Ringtone". The song must be less than 40 seconds and smaller than 1MB.
2. Go to Settings -> Ringtones + Sounds, tap Ringtone. Your custom ringtone will appear under a new tree called "Custom", above "Windows Phone"
Note that it is identified by the filename, rather than the track title.
Also, you can tap and HOLD a ringtone, and Delete will be offered (but only on the Custom ones; preloaded ones grey out delete).
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From the first page on ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147892
tsupersonic said:
chill dude, I wasn't aware of that. I will admit I didn't read the whole thread if you mentioned it before.
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Hey, no worries, I said you otherwise didn't know or were rude, I guess you didn't know but, it's been all over the net for over a week now.
Guys/Gals if I helped you any bit could you hit the thanks button on the post I helped you with. Thanks !!!

Hi There
is it possible to send and receive files via Bluetooth in mango?

Hi David
I still cant custom the ringtone bcos i can't connect with ZUNE.
When i plug in phone will connect just 2 - 3 second and then disconnect.
Anyway to help ?

David
Anyway to solve this problem ?
Everytime i plug in phone connect to ZUNE, will show me the ZUNE need to update,
Downloading .... after that show me current the ZUNE version is the lastest .....