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Hi,
I know it might be an odd question but:
Is it possible to flash an HTC HD2 ROM on the nexus one there by changing the OS to Windows Mobile?
I'm asking this because I see that the HW of both phone are almost the same but the nexus one is cheaper.
I want to buy the nexus one but if i don't like the android OS I wanted to know if I can change it to Windows Mobile with the sense interface?
Regards,
Michael
coming from htc diamond to g1 to magic and to nexus one,
HEll u will love the android interface..
WM is crap.
So i think i answered yr questions
No,
Bye!
I don't think I've heard of anyone coming from Windows Mobile to Android and wanting to go back.
When I started using Android from Windows mobile it was like going from swimming in mud to swimming in Evian.
Try it, if you live in the UK you have 14 days to return anyway (I think).
Something like this sounds like it'd break the time space continuum or something. Wasn't the HD2 skin made to look like the Sense Android interface in the first place?
mgear356 said:
WM is crap.
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Actually, Windows Mobile is the ONLY mobile OS that can play pretty much any video file I can throw at it; DivX, Xvid, avi, wmv, etc. And they played flawlessly. That's one of the things I sorely miss during my move to Android
And before you say it takes a lot of power or whatever to do this, I did all this on my Samsung SCH-i730, about 4 years ago. http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-sch-i730-verizon/4505-6452_7-31313312.html
I see absolutely no excuse for Android or the iPhone for not having this.
Paul22000 said:
Actually, Windows Mobile is the ONLY mobile OS that can play pretty much any video file I can throw at it; DivX, Xvid, avi, wmv, etc. And they played flawlessly. That's one of the things I sorely miss during my move to Android
And before you say it takes a lot of power or whatever to do this, I did all this on my Samsung SCH-i730, about 4 years ago. http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-sch-i730-verizon/4505-6452_7-31313312.html
I see absolutely no excuse for Android or the iPhone for not having this.
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It isn't a matter of power, it is a matter of someone making an app to support it. The big names on WM are starting to take a long hard look at Android and developing for it. As well, the SDK has gotten much better and increased overall support for this and that.
I would be willing to bet that by Summer we have coreplayer, or something similar. As well, IIRC the actual HTC version of this phone with SenseUI has support for all of those video formats, except for maybe wmv. And those features and what not will be ported over to the Nexus One when that day comes.
Might as well install the iPhone OS while your at it
CorePlayer will hopefully make its way to Android soon...
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2885
We have been asked if we plan to release a version of CorePlayer for Android. The short answer is yes
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You may find out that the price difference between the Nexus One and the HHD2 Touch is the license for windows mobile. If you want to run Windows Mobile then pay your license!
stewart1988 said:
CorePlayer will hopefully make its way to Android soon...
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2885
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Hmm, almost 6 months...
Just wait for a Sense Rom to hit the N1 then you can have the Sense interface and have android functionality.
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Hmm, almost 6 months...
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Yeah, if you read through(not sure if you did or not) it is pretty clear the delay isn't because they can't make it, it is because they are waiting for and SDK/NDK that supports everything they need, since they want it to be a universal app.
From the sounds of it, Google is working on allowing them to include their libs natively in the near future, and when they do that they should be where they need to be.
WM6.5
Yes there should be a suitable rom, for Nexeus One.
And why not its a lot of fun having dual boot or may be tripple boot using Ubnuntu.
Ashrafali.
HTC HD2
Waking up old threads isn't good for health, they eat your brain.
And if for 10 months nobody cared enough to make such ROM - there's your answer. Because it's worthless waste of developer power. Want one? You can always try to do it yourself. I'm glad the developers work on other things, that are the future, and not the past.
michael_h said:
Hi,
I know it might be an odd question but:
Is it possible to flash an HTC HD2 ROM on the nexus one there by changing the OS to Windows Mobile?
I'm asking this because I see that the HW of both phone are almost the same but the nexus one is cheaper.
I want to buy the nexus one but if i don't like the android OS I wanted to know if I can change it to Windows Mobile with the sense interface?
Regards,
Michael
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At least here in the US the HD2 is really cheap, while the nexus is holding its price really well. In my local craigslist a hd2 costs around $170-250, while a nexus is $300-450. You may want to check ebay and just buy a hd2 for cheap and ship it to your country. However, i doubt you will be disappointed with android so nexus would be a better bet.
OK
Help me learn how to make one I will be glad just show me the way, few links and I will pick up, trust me I like to do this .............
Ashrafali
HTC HD2
I came from Windows mobile to Android recently and too gush at the interface.
The only reason I'd go back to Windows mobile is for activesync functionality, mainly with outlook. (I have tried all the tricks btw)
Would the Sense ROM be a dual boot like the 4g phone has? Will it sync nicely with outlook?
ROM_Guest said:
I came from Windows mobile to Android recently and too gush at the interface.
The only reason I'd go back to Windows mobile is for activesync functionality, mainly with outlook. (I have tried all the tricks btw)
Would the Sense ROM be a dual boot like the 4g phone has? Will it sync nicely with outlook?
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Roadsync works perfectly with outlook. I get my outlook emails on my phone before I get them on my computer.
michael_h said:
Is it possible to flash an HTC HD2 ROM on the nexus one there by changing the OS to Windows Mobile?
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What type of sick individual would do such a thing?!
JK buddy I had the Hd2 at one point but I'd much rather have Android any day of the week
I think it is dumb that people are attacking the author of this topic just because he enjoys using windows mobile. Personally I used to have a mogul and it was a great phone to me. I don't think all you android fan boys need to be all aggressive like that. I personally like android more just because of its rapid updating and ui. But that doesn't mean that other people wouldn't like windows mobile better. But on the other hand I might switch to windows mobile 7 it looks really nice and i'm sure they will get it together with some developers.
Does anyone know if it is possible to install Windows Mobile 6.5 (from the Aria's brother, the HTC Mini). I want to buy an Aria--but if it can not upgrade to Andriod 2.2 with more Bluetooth calling functionality, I actually prefer Windows Mobile with Microsoft's Voice Command.
This topic died, but I want to resurrect it.
In response to those that asked if I am crazy, of course I am. But that is not why I wanted to run WM 6.5.x on the Aria. Here are my reasons:
1) The HTC HD Mini (an Aria running WM 6.5) has 900 and 2100 for HSDPA bands. I am on AT&T which uses the 850 and 1900 bands for HSDPA. So I can’t get a high speed connection on the Mini. But the Aria has the AT&T bands.
2) Android is fine, but I prefer WM (no, this is not crazy). I want WM 6.5.x because I am hooked on having the ability to effectively use voice dialing with 2,000+ contacts, having my callers name announced, having my appointments read, and having email sender and subject read (if I want), all over the phone speaker OR Bluetooth earpiece. Tried Android, and it can’t do any of that.
3) I want to easily sync my phone calendar, contacts, tasks, notes, and favorites directly with my PC and my laptop, ActiveSync does it perfectly—Android does not.
Does anyone know how to install WM 6.5.x on the Aria? Any ideas? Thanks.
It can be upgraded to Froyo and I'd expect it to be later this year.
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Does anyone know if it is possible to install Windows Mobile 6.5 (from the Aria's brother, the HTC Mini). I want to buy an Aria--but if it can not upgrade to Andriod 2.2 with more Bluetooth calling functionality, I actually prefer Windows Mobile with Microsoft's Voice Command.
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ugh... Just buy the HD Mini.
waltah! said:
It can be upgraded to Froyo and I'd expect it to be later this year.
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Thanks. That justifies the purchase now.
fred57 said:
Thanks. That justifies the purchase now.
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Why? What do we expect in AT&T's version of Froyo that we aren't getting now?
The main question is still being leaved unanswered: It is never possible to install WM on an Android phone.
Im suprised that people want windows mobile on android phones. The only thing i really like about windows mobile is MS Office. But honestly, there is little to no chance of ever getting windows mobile on an android device.
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Why is this. What is there to keep WM from working on the HTC Aria. I am not a programer and I shure do not understand the innerworking of cell phone operating systems. I own several HD2 phones and found it to be very simple to install cooked roms. I have spent the past two days reading through the forums on the Aria and am not any closer to understanding what is needed to be done to get there. Anyway, It would be nice to see WM working on the Aria.
The aria is just a hd mini with android you want winmo get hd mini check the specs they are pretty much identical
Um im not 100% sure on this
But i believe the bootloaders are different for windows mobile and android phones. There phones are also partitioned differently and just because the phones have identical specs doesn't mean it uses identical components and drivers. I.e. the wifi chip could be a different type, the speakers might be different, you would have to find the correct drivers, IF it were even possible to use the bootloader to boot windows mobile. Its not as simple as flashing an htc hd mini rom to an aria because the phones look the same. But if you really want windows mobile so bad, id say just buy a windows mobile phone.
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I could be wrong as I am not a cook but from what I understand;
Android seems to work well at adapting to different operating environments. The core is just more versatile than WinMo. A lot of that comes from the more open development environment of Linux and proprietary nature of Microsoft. Android is made to just work unlike Microsoft's archaic mobile platform.
I think of it like this;
Android(Linux) = Nails, They will simply drive into nearly anything and function.
Windows = Screws, Things have to line up perfectly, you usually have to pre-drill, and it takes a lot of twisting.
There seems to be enough failed WM phones out there anyway. I hate to see someone take a functional phone and cripple it. My old tilt went through maybe 15 different WM ROMs and none of them worked as smoothly as Android.
fred57 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to install Windows Mobile 6.5 (from the Aria's brother, the HTC Mini). I want to buy an Aria--but if it can not upgrade to Andriod 2.2 with more Bluetooth calling functionality, I actually prefer Windows Mobile with Microsoft's Voice Command.
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Juss buy a mini [email protected] up the Aria with the outdated stupidity off windows mobile that's like going from a bently(android) to a Buick(WinMo)... DON'T DO IT!!!!
Blackbery Curve 8330>Blackberry Pearl Flip>HTC FUZE>HTC Tilt 2>HTC Aria
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that's like going from a bently(android) to a Buick(WinMo)
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A Buick? You're giving WinMo too much credit.
Shovelhead84 said:
I could be wrong as I am not a cook but from what I understand;
Android seems to work well at adapting to different operating environments. The core is just more versatile than WinMo. A lot of that comes from the more open development environment of Linux and proprietary nature of Microsoft. Android is made to just work unlike Microsoft's archaic mobile platform.
I think of it like this;
Android(Linux) = Nails, They will simply drive into nearly anything and function.
Windows = Screws, Things have to line up perfectly, you usually have to pre-drill, and it takes a lot of twisting.
There seems to be enough failed WM phones out there anyway. I hate to see someone take a functional phone and cripple it. My old tilt went through maybe 15 different WM ROMs and none of them worked as smoothly as Android.
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That's an awesome analogy, I'm gonna have to use it sometime.
I know the HD2 guys are porting Android over to their WM phones. This is the first time I've heard of anyone wanting to go the other way though.
It seems most of the discussion is Android vs. WM, but I think some people just want to know if it's possible to put WM on an Android device.
In all likelihood it probably is though with limited functionality. However there aren't many, if any, devs that are interested in trying to get it to work. For the most part Android has taken over the crown for people who want to tinker with their phone. Even while I had a WM phone it was obvious most of the devs were moving to Android phones, or just porting Android to the WM devices. If you really want WM the easiest way is probably to just get a WM phone, or you'll probably have to do your own work in trying to port.
uberamd said:
A Buick? You're giving WinMo too much credit.
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LOL well i have to i had WinMo at 1 point LMAO
fred57 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to install Windows Mobile 6.5 (from the Aria's brother, the HTC Mini). I want to buy an Aria--but if it can not upgrade to Andriod 2.2 with more Bluetooth calling functionality, I actually prefer Windows Mobile with Microsoft's Voice Command.
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Having not used MS Voice Command I'm not sure exactly what features you are looking for, but Attn1's CM6 Liberty ROM for the Aria has functioning voice dialing over bluetooth.
hd mini and aria
simple problem solver...i have both phones..i enjoy usuing them both but i am starting to sway to the aria.. once i get the att stuff off the phone ill like it even better. just get both then decide.
...perhaps off topic, but what about iOS on an Android phone?
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...perhaps off topic, but what about iOS on an Android phone?
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Never... apple has unique hardware and writes their OS for that hardware... think of it like their comps before the intel switch
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i've testing android roms on my hd2 for a few weeks and i still have this question:
WHY A WM USER WOULD WANT ANDROID ON HIS/HERS HD2?
1. generaly a wm user doesn't like iOS (iphone). and android is in so many ways similar to ios
2. i can't find something that android could do and wm couldn't
3. i can't see any difference in speed or smoothness between wm and android
4. i can agree that the amount of applications or games is definetely higher on android, but one can find basicaly anything he/she wants also for wm
so, please guys let me know why do you want android on yours hd2
thank you!
noris08 said:
i've testing android roms on my hd2 for a few weeks and i still have this question:
WHY A WM USER WOULD WANT ANDROID ON HIS/HERS HD2?
1. generaly a wm user doesn't like iOS (iphone). and android is in so many ways similar to ios
2. i can't find something that android could do and wm couldn't
3. i can't see any difference in speed or smoothness between wm and android
4. i can agree that the amount of applications or games is definetely higher on android, but one can find basicaly anything he/she wants also for wm
so, please guys let me know why do you want android on yours hd2
thank you!
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Well i asked this question myself a lot!
Even if i'm running on Android for 3 weeks now and i didn't use WM since than; it is still not easy in my opinion to answer it!
I've done it just for curiosity and for change!
All i can feel is that it's more stable and that is what i'm interested in a phone! I don't like freezes or crashes and as you said anyone can find whatever he wants in any OS... As for speed and smoothness yes they are really the same...
Thing is... since you can have both with no problems at all, why not have both?
You get the stability and efficiency of Windows Mobile for daily work, including Office Mobile and other features Android doesn't have, and then you have Android with its huge application pool for more "fun" uses.
Windows Mobile = professional tool.
Android = kid's toy
For now at least - Android is still way to instable and also, even worse, way too power hungry to be used professionally on a HD2. I need to be able to use my phone intensively all day long without having to recharge after a few hours because the battery gets drained big time.
Android is just better, even with some bugs.
+1
for me the mail app and the google sync is miles apart from the rubbish windows dishes up
I really don't like HTC Sense and I find WM 6.5 ugly, cumberson and very un user friendy
Added to the fact that the app store is miles better than Market place the apps and widgets are generally of a very high standard and most are free...
I will never go back to Windows mobile now, completely hooked on android ..
- Speaksearch
- Augmented Reality (Goggles, Layar)
- Java Development
noris08 said:
i've testing android roms on my hd2 for a few weeks and i still have this question:
WHY A WM USER WOULD WANT ANDROID ON HIS/HERS HD2?
1. generaly a wm user doesn't like iOS (iphone). and android is in so many ways similar to ios
2. i can't find something that android could do and wm couldn't
3. i can't see any difference in speed or smoothness between wm and android
4. i can agree that the amount of applications or games is definetely higher on android, but one can find basicaly anything he/she wants also for wm
so, please guys let me know why do you want android on yours hd2
thank you!
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scbrother said:
Android is just better, even with some bugs.
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now, this is definetely a solid statement. can you bring some arguments equaly solid?
Jezwick said:
+1
for me the mail app and the google sync is miles apart from the rubbish windows dishes up
I really don't like HTC Sense and I find WM 6.5 ugly, cumberson and very un user friendy
Added to the fact that the app store is miles better than Market place the apps and widgets are generally of a very high standard and most are free...
I will never go back to Windows mobile now, completely hooked on android ..
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mail app and google sync - nonsense as wm has exchange and myphone for sync.
interface ugly - that's a question of taste, but you can personalise your interface in so many ways. take for instance maxsense or spb mobile shell. android interface is so iphoneish...
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- Augmented Reality (Goggles, Layar)
- Java Development
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now this is something, although speak search you can have also in wm (bing for instance).
augumented reality - i don't know what that is and how can i use it on my android hd2
java development - is this important? in wich way?
for al 3 guys above - if android is so cool and wm is not, why don't you buy an android phone instead of using a wm phone with an imperfect android ported rom?
this is not a flame attempt is just an honest question
thank you all!
Personally Its about looks and widgets.
I know It sounds odd but I hate the look of winmo.
I also dont like having to scroll through a bunch of different screens when I can have a screen with a bunch of different info on it.
Sense on winmo comes across as a big hinderence. Only thing that made winmo bareable to me was cht and even that drove me crazy.
I always say this but as a user of all three os I am just more comfortable with android than anything else.
So i guess I would not consider myself a winmo user. I bought the phone with the intent on using android at some point.
It is hard to get people to adjust to something different. Most avid winmo users will say they like winmo better. Most avid android users will say that like android.
It all boils down to what you like.
If someone has always used intel and you get them to buy a amd when they get a virus they will blame you for suggesting the amd. I know this because I work retail. I have learned not to let my feelings or judgements get in the way.
So I say if you like winmo stick with it.
Old winmo is dead hopefully windows phone 7 can be ported to the hd2. Otherwise those who like winmo will be stuck doing it old school.
I'am waiting for the Motorola Defy. ;-)
I find the HD2 with WM also good. But i'am curious.
Bing? Speaksearch? How?
noris08 said:
for al 3 guys above - if android is so cool and wm is not, why don't you buy an android phone instead of using a wm phone with an imperfect android ported rom?
this is not a flame attempt is just an honest question
thank you all!
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As for why people dont flat out buy a android phone.
I am a t-mobile user. I do not wish to use sprint or verizon so that limits the number of phones I can use with the very large 4.3 inch screen.
We arent getting the Desire hd here in the Us. and frankly the samsung captivate is too small and missing led flash.
google 2 nexus 1 mytouch slide screens are all too small!
price is also important. If someone already has an hd2 why spend more money on a new phone when you can use android.
buggy as it maybe its pretty dang fantastic.
Turn by turn gps in Google maps is great. Windows mobile is dated. Looks basically the same as it did 8 or 9 years ago. It was designed to be used with a stylus and android was designed for touch. I don't know why people say android looks like i OS, it really looks nothing like it with widgets instead of page after page of apps.
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Turn by turn gps in Google maps is great. Windows mobile is dated. Looks basically the same as it did 8 or 9 years ago. It was designed to be used with a stylus and android was designed for touch. I don't know why people say android looks like i OS, it really looks nothing like it with widgets instead of page after page of apps.
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I agree sir I truly agree. I cant stand Ios personally.
Windows is unstable, it crashes at least once or twice a week without any heavy usage.
I went back to the HD2 after owning an iphone for 18 months, I didn't like the way apple control everything so went back to Windows and regretted it ever since. The iphone required maybe three or four reboots in 18 months.
Now I'm running Android on the HD2 and rarely drop back to windows for anything.
There are certainly problems at the moment with Android on the HD2, these will be overcome (remember these are really just beta versions at the moment) relatively quickly and we will have a stable operating system that is highly configurable and far far superior to Windows.
I'm using mdeejay_froyo_sense_v2.1a_ppp with a 2.12 radio and stock 02 uk Rom. I still lose signal occasionally with this release but no screen freezes after a week of heavy use. For me it is now more stable than windows.
guys, this is not wm vs android
please remember the question - Why do you want Android on HD2?
you all bought hd2 as a wm phone, so i find it odd that you say so many bad words about wm. did somebody twist your arms to buy hd2 or did you chose it freely?
i completely disagree with the guy saing wm is instable - on my hd2 i use custom roms and they are extremely stable (nrgz, miri&steve, indie to name just a few chefs)
turn by turn - almost any gps sofware has it
and wm may be outdated but on hd2 is very finger friendly. i don't see the need of a stylus no matter what i do
where i live a second hand hd2 is selling for 3-400Euros. with that money you can buy a samsung galaxy s - same size, even better technical specs
and yes, bing has speak search. in the home page you will see a small microphone icon. press it and the speak what you are looking for and wait for the magic
and as i said before, you can customize your interface in so many ways...
so, again, why android on hd2?
thank you!
noris08 said:
guys, this is not wm vs android
please remember the question - Why do you want Android on HD2?
you all bought hd2 as a wm phone, so i find it odd that you say so many bad words about wm. did somebody twist your arms to buy hd2 or did you chose it freely?
i completely disagree with the guy saing wm is instable - on my hd2 i use custom roms and they are extremely stable (nrgz, miri&steve, indie to name just a few chefs)
turn by turn - almost any gps sofware has it
and wm may be outdated but on hd2 is very finger friendly. i don't see the need of a stylus no matter what i do
where i live a second hand hd2 is selling for 3-400Euros. with that money you can buy a samsung galaxy s - same size, even better technical specs
and yes, bing has speak search. in the home page you will see a small microphone icon. press it and the speak what you are looking for and wait for the magic
and as i said before, you can customize your interface in so many ways...
so, again, why android on hd2?
thank you!
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We arent bashing windows mobile. These are our reasons as to why we want android on the hd2. A lot of regular users I know have had horrible experiences with the hd2. Most of the people I speak with hate the phone. The fact that they have winmo on the phone matters not to them.
You must have by passed the fact that I said the galaxy's screen is to small for me. Yes .3 inches matters and the fact that the galaxy s doesnt have led flash for camera's is a major kill
Like I said I chose it freely to put Android on it. When i got my phone The nexus 1 was the only android phone with decent spec's. Frankly the 3.7 inch screen is too small.
Why, because i can have Android on it, that's why
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Why, because i can have Android on it, that's why
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and if you have a gun you will start kill people just because you can?
please , how many clicks does it take in
wm/android
from lockscreen to enable wifi and go back to homescreen , 5/2
how many clicks does it take to disable orientation and go back to homescreen 6/1
how many clicks does it take to adust brightness and go back to homescreen 6/1
how many clicks does it takes to download email and fb updates after a successful wifi connect and go back to homescreen 6/0
cht may improve theese values ... but gimme a break with questions like theese , u do not deserve to run android on ur fone if u ask somthing like this
Honestly What is the point behind this question other than you just wanted to ask.
And while I do respect that you wanted to I ask I cant but wonder what you expect.
Each one of these members has a reason for wanting or not wanting android.
You really should consider accepting peoples reasons.
as you said I am not flaming I am just stating what I see.
I look forward to your response.
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please , how many clicks does it take in
wm/android
from lockscreen to enable wifi and go back to homescreen , 5/1
how many clicks does it take to disable orientation and go back to homescreen 6/1
how many clicks does it take to adust brightness and go back to homescreen 6/1
how many clicks does it takes to download email and fb updates and go back to homescreen 6/1
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Remember Windows mobile does have toggles and widgets
wait i know for sure it has toggles but widgets Im thinking not very many not that I could find anyway.
Hey Guys, i'm new here and would like to know what the best OS for the HD2 is (in your opinions).
After the default Win 6.5 i tried Android and i liked it very much.
So what do you Guys use, and like most ?
ty, mxxshadow
Similar thread already exists,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919218
I don't think another one is necessary
WM6.5.x Energy ROMs, 23699 being my favourite.
Android is a long way off from what I need & comes not even close to custom WM with a user who has educated himself from XDA forums.
thx, did not find it with the keywords "best os"
Android hands down, never liked WINMO ever!
and is there any special build, that is wroth to name it ?
As far as best os without any issues, as much as it pains me to say so I would have to go with wm6.5 especially if you're just starting out and don't really know how to work on your phone yet. But once you do get a little bit of knowledge behind you I would give it to Android. I've been using NAND as my daily driver for months now
Win mo for day to day os and android for weekends on sd card. They are 2 of the best os currently available. Win 6.5 blows anything else for customization. Android comes a close 2nd especially with cyanogen mod.
Love them both long live hd2
I'm using android as my daily OS now...WM6.5 with energy ROM+CHT is excellent...but i think HD2 runs better with Android,especially GB.
Android's the best for me
Mister B said:
WM6.5.x Energy ROMs, 23699 being my favourite.
Android is a long way off from what I need & comes not even close to custom WM with a user who has educated himself from XDA forums.
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I didn't know there were still someone using Winmobile on their HD2s.
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I didn't know there were still someone using Winmobile on their HD2s.
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Yeh that's what happens when your a fandroid user, can't keep up to date as your platform is a backward muddle & you've slowed your device down by downloading all those two minute developed trashy apps ... lol
Android is ok, have a Desire kicking around but it does not work well as a daily runner for me.
Somewhere between the 2 platforms would be the perfect OS !
ok thx guys, i'm gonna try some android roms
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Yeh that's what happens when your a fandroid user, can't keep up to date as your platform is a backward muddle & you've slowed your device down by downloading all those two minute developed trashy apps ... lol
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Lol u don't even know how good and smooth android works on the HD2, for sure way better than Winmobile does. And what 2 minutes developed trashy apps?? Well at least we have a decent market, look at yours...
Have fun with your Mobile OS supported by none, not even from Microsoft itself...
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Segnale007 said:
Lol u don't even know how good and smooth android works on the HD2, for sure way better than Winmobile does. And what 2 minutes developed trashy apps?? Well at least we have a decent market, look at yours...
Have fun with your Mobile OS supported by none, not even from Microsoft itself...
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It runs no where near as smooth as my current WM ROM setup & I have tried it & also on a native device, won't really notice the difference in term of Microsoft support as we haven't had much help from them over the last 6 years. The amount of quality professional applications for Android is still very limited as for the market, not into that Apple idea, I found all I need via XDA & good web searching & 8 years experience with the platform.
At this current time I could not perform my work tasks via Android hence why my Desire is a toy & paper weight on my desk.
With more platform & professional application support Android will be as good as people boast about at the moment but that takes time & that is why WM still can hold its own ground in the professional user market.
androooooooooooid only android
Mister B said:
It runs no where near as smooth as my current WM ROM setup & I have tried it & also on a native device, won't really notice the difference in term of Microsoft support as we haven't had much help from them over the last 6 years. The amount of quality professional applications for Android is still very limited as for the market, not into that Apple idea, I found all I need via XDA & good web searching & 8 years experience with the platform.
At this current time I could not perform my work tasks via Android hence why my Desire is a toy & paper weight on my desk.
With more platform & professional application support Android will be as good as people boast about at the moment but that takes time & that is why WM still can hold its own ground in the professional user market.
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Yea, sure, I want u to believe that ... Btw, look at the score above, see the result so far and come back and see it in a couple of days.
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Yea, sure, I want u to believe that ... Btw, look at the score above, see the result so far and come back and see it in a couple of days.
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The score may say andriode but it is not a true reflection of wich OS is better. Win Mo comes out the box more functional an ready for use then Android. Eindows is a stand alone OS where if it was no Lenuix it would be no Android. Everyone likes Android because it runs smooth out the box, but if you use a custom Win Mo ROM it is just as smooth if not smoother than Android.
Now this is partially do to the lack of Microsofts support for Win Mo but tbey have been to busy developing the stupid and redundant WP7 is why. Why is this because people are to lazy to actually spend time to learn how to use Win Mo and how capable and useful it is. Andriod to me feels like a very trimmed down version of Win Mo to me. I mean you have an app tray and thats it, atleast with Win Mo you can organize apps as you want. The Android home screen if cool but install Cookies Home Tab on Win Mo and you have a better home screen then any Android device or ROM. Heck I even prefer the HTC Sense UI in thd stock ROM over Android home screen. I can not no matter how many apps I search for in the Android matket use Android as a literal extension of my home or work PC. As far as apps go hey the apps or out there but once again I go back to people being to lazy to search for them as they are not all in one place. I call that being true open sourced as anyone can make a app for Win Mo. But if Google does .ot like your app it will never be on the market or get pulled from the market. Sure you can still side load it but if it messes up your device there goes your waranty. Besides I have tried a ton of Android apps and what good are apps tbat only do one thing or 500 of the same apps I mean really. Oh and just incase someone wants to mention flash, flash only works on the default Android browser does that really make it flash capable? In short give me a Win Mo and a Android device and I am going with the Win Mo everytime. So have fun with playing with Android while us Win Mo users are actually using or devices to be productive.
T-Macgnolia said:
The score may say andriode but it is not a true reflection of wich OS is better. Win Mo comes out the box more functional an ready for use then Android. Eindows is a stand alone OS where if it was no Lenuix it would be no Android. Everyone likes Android because it runs smooth out the box, but if you use a custom Win Mo ROM it is just as smooth if not smoother than Android.
Now this is partially do to the lack of Microsofts support for Win Mo but tbey have been to busy developing the stupid and redundant WP7 is why. Why is this because people are to lazy to actually spend time to learn how to use Win Mo and how capable and useful it is. Andriod to me feels like a very trimmed down version of Win Mo to me. I mean you have an app tray and thats it, atleast with Win Mo you can organize apps as you want. The Android home screen if cool but install Cookies Home Tab on Win Mo and you have a better home screen then any Android device or ROM. Heck I even prefer the HTC Sense UI in thd stock ROM over Android home screen. I can not no matter how many apps I search for in the Android matket use Android as a literal extension of my home or work PC. As far as apps go hey the apps or out there but once again I go back to people being to lazy to search for them as they are not all in one place. I call that being true open sourced as anyone can make a app for Win Mo. But if Google does .ot like your app it will never be on the market or get pulled from the market. Sure you can still side load it but if it messes up your device there goes your waranty. Besides I have tried a ton of Android apps and what good are apps tbat only do one thing or 500 of the same apps I mean really. Oh and just incase someone wants to mention flash, flash only works on the default Android browser does that really make it flash capable? In short give me a Win Mo and a Android device and I am going with the Win Mo everytime. So have fun with playing with Android while us Win Mo users are actually using or devices to be productive.
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I agree for business winMo is better.. winMo is just as smooth and stable when ROM'd...
with android.. i cant find a CALENDAR (not a stinkin tasker) that will allow notes IN a meeting BEFORE AND AFTER its occurrence.
i cant adjust screen sensitivity
i cant sort my apps
i am limited to # of home screens...etc etc
the market charges for foolish things that should be free like solitaire.
1/2 the games dont work universally or across droid versions (2,2 2,3).
flash is an afterthought.
the office emulation is not very good either.
android will take off when it gets the basics down pat.. in the mean time its a toy like the Iphone... but at least better with the sd card slot
Good accurate replies, Android hit the big sales by targeting the main Mobile market. Windows was alway first a profesional choice or geeks toy.
Windows is far better in the hands of a capable user who can set it up well & thus that is why I am still using it.
hi guys...
I have the Leo for a year or so,
i used to have WM EnergyROM and iit was perfect for me...
and then DFT came and gave us the Android gift, so i've flashed the NAND ROM
and using it ever since... BUT i don't like the idea of "cloud" sh** of the Android, I see no differance in speed, sure it looks better than WM6.5....
but it never felt solid like WM....
now i simply don't know what to do....
Leave it as is and use the Android OS or go back to WM??
i sure need some advice....
I would install Pyramid rom like I did and be happy!
Im happy with my HD2 Using android Pyramid rom with everyday use and its stable nice and solid. P.S. Im using CLK...
having used all three OS's a lot on the HD2, i can give you a fairly good idea of what id do but its very much personal preference.
There is nothing wrong with wm, I personally think its an amazing OS, yeah it doesnt look as good, yeah it doesnt run as fast but its a work horse and will do anything.
the other two OS's, WP and android are two very different kettles of fish, WP is in my opinion the best PHONE OS out there, it has a lot of great features especially around exchange support and social networks. android is a bit flaky in my opinion, but appears to have more "modability" If you dont like the whole idea of uploading to a clould then that only leaves android and WM, in my humble opinion WM wins from a userbility point of view and android wins from a interface perspective (WP wins that if you include that in to the mix!)
dazza9075 said:
having used all three OS's a lot on the HD2, i can give you a fairly good idea of what id do but its very much personal preference.
There is nothing wrong with wm, I personally think its an amazing OS, yeah it doesnt look as good, yeah it doesnt run as fast but its a work horse and will do anything.
the other two OS's, WP and android are two very different kettles of fish, WP is in my opinion the best PHONE OS out there, it has a lot of great features especially around exchange support and social networks. android is a bit flaky in my opinion, but appears to have more "modability" If you dont like the whole idea of uploading to a clould then that only leaves android and WM, in my humble opinion WM wins from a userbility point of view and android wins from a interface perspective (WP wins that if you include that in to the mix!)
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mmm food for thought....
personally i'd go for WP7 BUT MS insist not giving me an Activition key they told me to contact HTC for that beacuase "it should be provided withe your new HD7" (MS Israel) i sent mail to MS USA and they told me to contact my local MS service... so WP7 is a dead end for me...
the idea fo giving google all personal information with Android is also disturbing me but there are a very good and usfule apps in it like Whatsapp (that i use daily)...
on the other hand WM provides me a better an much more convinent way of data Sync to my PC and most of the apps that i use on Android can be replaced with equivilant apps on WM exept Whatsapp...
the G-sensors on WM don't work on all apps (like WAZE that i use daily) kind of annoing...
my friend is a Developer he told me that Android works better on the HD2 i don't know how or why or if it's true even thou the HD2 is WM native...
so i really don't know what to choose very confused and tierd of flashing from one to another just becuase "every one use this OS or the other"
honestly i think that when HTC built the HD2 they aimed for WP7 and Windows will always work better on it and Windows is much more convinient for data Sync. no "special" drivers is required or some other tricks just to allow me to connect my HD2 to PC....
Me knowing that there are no more updates for WM6.5.x from MS holds me back call me stupid but it makes me think that this platform is dead (and i know it's not true)
bahhhh very very confused......
I have tried wm, and wp7 and android, and HyperDroidCM7v3.1 is the best ROM for the hd2 that is out there now. Just give it a try and you'll know what I mean ;-) Really.
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se1988 said:
I have tried wm, and wp7 and android, and HyperDroidCM7v3.1 is the best ROM for the hd2 that is out there now. Just give it a try and you'll know what I mean ;-) Really.
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i'm currently usin it if you look at my sig.
and in my former post i explaind myself about my opinion but yrt kind fo dont know what to do... i thought about dual boot of WM and Android but it's not a solution because i want to use one OS.... not a GAZILION OS's.....
I stuck with NRG WM6.5 on my hd2. Tried android on HD2 & also via HTC Desire with native Android. Android lacked in a lot of areas I needed daily & is in no way a great looking or clever GUI. I use NRG Dinik further modded by myself & it works perfect for me in business & pleasure & is solid & all functions I use & have tested work well, closest a phone OS gets to having a PC in your pocket.
Have very little experience of WP7 on HD2, used it on native handset but not enough to go verbal on opinions.
Main call is down to how you use your device & what you prioritise, unfortunately you are one of the few who are caught with needs that can not come from one OS.
Best you can do is work with the OS that comes closest & resolve lacking apps ect the best you can ...
I am surprised that a whatsapp alternative for WM has not materialised & also surprised the XDA app never went to WM.
WM is not dead & will be in real use for some while yet but chances of new applications & any form of evolution within the OS itself is unlikely. Shame really as 6.5.5 had a hell of a lot of potential, if MS had developed it faster Android could of been unknown & buying or flashing a phone would of been much simpler.
baraks said:
i'm currently usin it if you look at my sig.
and in my former post i explaind myself about my opinion but yrt kind fo dont know what to do... i thought about dual boot of WM and Android but it's not a solution because i want to use one OS.... not a GAZILION OS's.....
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Well, it comes down to a matter of taste really... You prefer WM, use WM. I prefer Android, because it owns everything else.
se1988 said:
Well, it comes down to a matter of taste really... You prefer WM, use WM. I prefer Android, because it owns everything else.
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By saying everything else, what do you mean??? I really dont understand the difference between all the os's....
For general knowledge i use data sync alot with my pc lots of mail use office acrobat reader gps and im soft.... if this helps to advise me...
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By saying everything else, what do you mean??? I really dont understand the difference between all the os's....
For general knowledge i use data sync alot with my pc lots of mail use office acrobat reader gps and im soft.... if this helps to advise me...
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Android can meet your demands and more. Maybe WM is good enough for you, but give Android a try! I promise you, you will never go back
Why drive a Toyota Corolla, when you can have the Bugatti Veyron for free?
se1988 said:
Android can meet your demands and more. Maybe WM is good enough for you, but give Android a try! I promise you, you will never go back
Why drive a Toyota Corolla, when you can have the Bugatti Veyron for free?
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Because you will likely crash an burn in the bugatti and it will cost you more in the long run.
WM is solid, if the OEMs and networks didnt screw it up so much then it might still be a leading contender today.
as it is, WM is the best SMARTPHONE OS out there, in my opinion WP7 is the best Phone OS out there (android would fit in to this if it wasnt bloated and becoming more fragmented by the week) There is a big difference between Smartphone and phone, and iOS, android and WP do not fit the bill for a true smartphone.
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Because you will likely crash an burn in the bugatti and it will cost you more in the long run.
WM is solid, if the OEMs and networks didnt screw it up so much then it might still be a leading contender today.
as it is, WM is the best SMARTPHONE OS out there, in my opinion WP7 is the best Phone OS out there (android would fit in to this if it wasnt bloated and becoming more fragmented by the week) There is a big difference between Smartphone and phone, and iOS, android and WP do not fit the bill for a true smartphone.
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You get my vote, could not of worded it any better.
MS have to take some flack for not developing it faster & reducing OEM derived bugs by creating a base platform that did not need so much modding & stayed more in MS control.
WM is an amazing Phone OS & I find it so wasteful & short sighted on MS to of totally dumped it ...
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Android can meet your demands and more. Maybe WM is good enough for you, but give Android a try! I promise you, you will never go back
Why drive a Toyota Corolla, when you can have the Bugatti Veyron for free?
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Dude i'm driving a Suzuki swift 09 with 102HP and i would not swap it for buggati its too rich for my blood even for free... lol
For the os wm is the best out ther i use android just because it has whatsapp....
As i said before i dont bellive on the cloud..... it's stupid imo...
Android feels like a toy to me and suits more for teens WM feels like i have a smaller version of pc in my hand
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Dude i'm driving a Suzuki swift 09 with 102HP and i would not swap it for buggati its too rich for my blood even for free... lol
For the os wm is the best out ther i use android just because it has whatsapp....
As i said before i dont bellive on the cloud..... it's stupid imo...
Android feels like a toy to me and suits more for teens WM feels like i have a smaller version of pc in my hand
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Indeed WM is the smartest in base platform functionality & closest any phone OS has been to a notebook in your pocket.
Mister B said:
Indeed WM is the smartest in base platform functionality & closest any phone OS has been to a notebook in your pocket.
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is there a way that you can tell me the differance between th OS's WM Android and WP?
exept that Android is LiMO based.. i mean the overall difference...
UPDATE: (1.10 20:45 GMT+2) got back to WM6.5 21916 Energy ROM CHT2.0 4.7.11.... and it feel so GOOD
UPDATE: (2.10 2:33 GMT+2) Restored my NANDroid WM keeps on freezing
Well, I do agree that WM WAS a good OS. Just too bad that both support, myphone and marketplace has been discontinued, just to let WM die a silent death... At least Android is guaranteed to keep up for a long time to come
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baraks said:
is there a way that you can tell me the differance between th OS's WM Android and WP?
exept that Android is LiMO based.. i mean the overall difference...
UPDATE: (1.10 20:45 GMT+2) got back to WM6.5 21916 Energy ROM CHT2.0 4.7.11.... and it feel so GOOD
UPDATE: (2.10 2:33 GMT+2) Restored my NANDroid WM keeps on freezing
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Have a look at this link (if not done already!)for some comparisons comments on various OS's
If your WM is freezing you need to review HSPL/Radio & ROM build you are using & perhaps apps you install !
The 23699 is my favourite & most stable Energy ROM & the 290xx builds are good if you want newer ROMs (New does not always mean better) ...
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se1988 said:
Well, I do agree that WM WAS a good OS. Just too bad that both support, myphone and marketplace has been discontinued, just to let WM die a silent death... At least Android is guaranteed to keep up for a long time to come
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No big deal never used it anyway.
I have all personal apps & work apps on my own server archive & also contacts are saved on server & via Gmail so we can access & install anywhere if needed.
Why rely on a 3rd party when you can be in control yourself.
As for Market appeal, personally I prefer sourcing apps originally via good old web searching & checking known bugs & best builds(latest ain't always greatest) ...
If you find installing loads of poor quality apps and never finding favourite version of an app again a great hobby then yes a market is a great tool !
i don't think it's HSPL/Radio ROM since i havn't changed them since last radio rom update (2.15.50.14)
maybe some app (i susspect the XDA_IE_6.1.cab)
and my favorite build is 21916, didnt like that the start is on the bottom bar...
btw when i Sync the Outlook all my appointments nd holydays are duplicated on the HD2 (and i didn't PIM backup before Sync)....
baraks said:
i don't think it's HSPL/Radio ROM since i havn't changed them since last radio rom update (2.15.50.14)
maybe some app (i susspect the XDA_IE_6.1.cab)
and my favorite build is 21916, didnt like that the start is on the bottom bar...
btw when i Sync the Outlook all my appointments nd holydays are duplicated on the HD2 (and i didn't PIM backup before Sync)....
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Interesting how we all differ as I find the lower start bar far easier for touch input ...
Have you tried these tools for duplicate cleaning ! never tested them myself but thought would mention them as you might want to review them;
TrineFix
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Mister B said:
Interesting how we all differ as I find the lower start bar far easier for touch input ...
Have you tried these tools for duplicate cleaning ! never tested them myself but thought would mention them as you might want to review them;
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thanx i'll give it a try