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Windows Mobile 6.5 on N1

I know for many this sounds stupid and copletely unnecessary to do because android is so awesome ;P
but i was just wondering if its possible?
Regards,
j

Well, there's something that lets you dual-boot WinMo and Android on a WM device, optimized for 6.5. Dunno about the other way around, though.

dear sweet lord above, why would you pollute this device with winmo?

your right it is stupid ! winmo sucks !

see those answers are exactly what i was trying to avoid

grainysand said:
Well, there's something that lets you dual-boot WinMo and Android on a WM device, optimized for 6.5. Dunno about the other way around, though.
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yea i have that on my old i900 but i dont think it works the other way around, cheers tho

This has been asked once or twice before and the conversations just do not end well. It might be possible but it would require quite a bit of low level work, the bootloader (or whatever it is called in embedded systems) being a significant hurdle in and of itself. If you want winmo you are far better off going with an HD2 or waiting till something else comes out.

JanetPanic said:
This has been asked once or twice before and the conversations just do not end well. It might be possible but it would require quite a bit of low level work, the bootloader (or whatever it is called in embedded systems) being a significant hurdle in and of itself. If you want winmo you are far better off going with an HD2 or waiting till something else comes out.
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ok cool, thank you very much for your reply
cheers

i wouldnt mind dual booting in WinMo 6.5 or better yet to iPhone OS (to get all the good apps)

I'll probably through winmo7 on my nexus when it comes out.

wow, ANOTHER thread on this....

Wmware is releasing mvp soon. It runs on windows ce now but they are making it for android. Soon you will be able to run any os on your phone.
http://www.vmware.com/products/mobile/

screw that!
i rather hackintosh the nexus! i love my iphone only reason i got the nexus is for my 3g in tmobile in the us. i still have the grandfathered 5.99tzones and i get 3g all day. got the nexus unlocked for 529 with tax it was 570 i think.
imagine an iphone running snapdragon, oled screen, 5meg camera 512ram SWEET!!!
HACKINTOSH BEFOR WINMOBILE!

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I would definitely try WM on my nexus one.
I think those people that are saying, that android is so great that you do not need anything else, are stupid at least.
For example - try getting cracked navigation software working on your Nexus One...With WM you can have iGO working very well or Navigon or Tom Tom. You might say that you can use built in maps - but in Europe people are changing countries after driving few hundred miles - so data roaming would cost more than buying new GPS device...
So while I understand that you love your android, but there are plenty of good stuff on the "dark-side"...
Isn't HD2 hardware wise very similar to Nexus One? Wouldn't it be possible to put HD2 boot loader on Nexus One?

timothydonohue said:
dear sweet lord above, why would you pollute this device with winmo?
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I share that sentiment.

maktucali said:
i rather hackintosh the nexus! i love my iphone only reason i got the nexus is for my 3g in tmobile in the us. i still have the grandfathered 5.99tzones and i get 3g all day. got the nexus unlocked for 529 with tax it was 570 i think.
imagine an iphone running snapdragon, oled screen, 5meg camera 512ram SWEET!!!
HACKINTOSH BEFOR WINMOBILE!
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Ew. ifail OS on the Nexus, ala single task at a time on this hardware? Repulsive.

looking for the answer...

now that they have announced that the hd2 will not be upgraded to wp7s.. should i even bother getting this phone ? or should i get an android such as the nexus or other?

donovanhorn said:
or should i get an android such as the nexus or other?
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They wont get windows 7 either, so no.

well yes i get that but they will update the os on their phones and make it better, possibly, for the long term

Nexus has smaller screen. I would not go to smaller screen anymore.
Sum up all you want from the phone .. HD2 may still be the best solution.

i want a phone that i can use everyday for just about everything. i want a phone that can replace my phone my laptop and camera and just use the one device ....i love the size of this phone and everything that i have read about it and have been waiting for it to come to the US with t-mobile, but I dont want to spend a huge amount of money now and then have to at the end of the year again, because it doesnt get any updates..

i guess another problem i have is the apps... from what i have read it seems that android will over the next few years be the one that will be the best app store, but i don't know that to be true obviously.. i want to be able to find the OS that will be the best that i can get behind. i have not used an android phone yet so i don't really know how to compare the two personally

lol @ replacing laptop - no phone can replace a stand alone PC

I wouldn't be so sure about android. the android code recently split from the main kernel (or something,im not a linux freak,) the upshot being that pretty much all development moved in house to google, who are implementing code that makes it "their" os. a move to get control of a platform to fight the I phone, but anyway...plus, android is as much infringing the same apple patents that htc face,I can see it becoming a fringe os in a few years.

I had some minor issues when I bought HD2, but thanx to XDA developers, now I have none.
The result is the great amount of joy every time I use the phone, and I really don't care about wp7, Android or anything else.
Besides, by the time wp7 sees light, i am sure HTC will think of something new and exciting as always...

how much of the phone can be used in landscape? also.. how good is the music player? is there a way i can use this phone to replace mp3 player in car?

donovanhorn said:
how much of the phone can be used in landscape? also.. how good is the music player? is there a way i can use this phone to replace mp3 player in car?
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%70 of the phone can be used as landscape approx. Music player is good,does not make me miss my iPhone..dont know about mp3 thing for the car tough.

CRO_Misho said:
I had some minor issues when I bought HD2, but thanx to XDA developers, now I have none.
The result is the great amount of joy every time I use the phone, and I really don't care about wp7, Android or anything else.
Besides, by the time wp7 sees light, i am sure HTC will think of something new and exciting as always...
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What problems did you have? how did you fix them?

I really do not think that "7" missing from the phone is going to
bother me. One of the main reasons I'm getting the phone
is for the -Sense- UI. Very impressed by it.
Do I need to go to Windows 7 after only having Vista
for a year....No, I'm happy. Still using Windows 2000 at work...lol

Hd2 or windows phone 7 i say hd2

NO MULTITASKING NO FILE EXPLORER
enough for me will buy leo and not go on wp7 WHY??????
IF I want nice OS can take Iphone or nokia s4o and get all like new wp7,but if anyone want mobile computer....... wp7 is nice good looking and thats it no more hacker boosting cant go in system well I could do that 4 y ago in my 66oo and want to do that now. microsoft make big big mistake windows mobile will lose lots of users.I will go on 6.5 and hd2 or will wait little more for maemo6 and see what device will go with it but windows phone 7 is big disappointment for me and cant understand why microsoft do this.
Wait for yours opinion guys

dont know if all these windows phone 7 rumours are true but if they are and it looks like the vids we are seeing im going to android next.

sharpey said:
dont know if all these windows phone 7 rumours are true but if they are and it looks like the vids we are seeing im going to android next.
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Yep, I agree.

erosennin said:
sharpey said:
dont know if all these windows phone 7 rumours are true but if they are and it looks like the vids we are seeing im going to android next.
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Yep, I agree.
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+1 here
when the rumors come true, my next device is definitely android/maemo/meego.

One of the reasons I have been using WM and HTC phones for the last 4 years is because I absolutely love tinkering with them, I don't think more than a couple of days pass without me doing something to the phone with new mods or apps.
A fixed OS would be a big turn off for me, I love the ability to customize my phone and just mess about with it, wherever I am.

I was WinMo then switched to Android for about 15 days with G1 phone... then returned it all together (2 times two different devices) and got myself Symbian )e71) which I use now. I was tired of touchscreen a bit and had no problem going to smartphone... since I wanted iphone that is not iphone litteraly I read the review if no touchscreen is a must - E71 is a way to go... review did not dissapoint. I quite happy user but that was about 2 years ago... I am now ready for another phone and it will be either MeeGo device (Nokia+Intel), Maemo (n900) or HD2. I am not thinking Windows 7 Phone for numerous reasons...
iPhone I do not want... Androids are simply NOT THAT SMOOTH as advertised but all models are simply compared to the previous Android device and blown out of proportion how better it is... problem is I want something that opens stuff in the blink of an eye, that has no bugs, that hold battery enough for me to operate on my stuff I need (1 days is kewl) and that's it... oh yeah - I want Garmin XT installed which I have now and my other choice is HD2 besides Symbian S60 devices... Nokia Touchscreen is not that perfect yet - so my favorite now is HD2 - however, I will not get it yet - I want to see massive reviews from people that get it...

i love htc sense and i will follow it to android

hoss_n2 said:
i love htc sense and i will follow it to android
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I'm leaving android sense for a hd2. android sense is nothinglike the winmo sense.

HD2 is just fine plus i am sure they will at some point make the WM7 avaible for it. And if not - the shefs will manage to cook similar roms.
Plus - waiting sucks, i've already waited way too long for the Leo and it was worth it!

Windows Mobile 6.5 on Aria?? - Resurrected December 26, 2010

Does anyone know if it is possible to install Windows Mobile 6.5 (from the Aria's brother, the HTC Mini). I want to buy an Aria--but if it can not upgrade to Andriod 2.2 with more Bluetooth calling functionality, I actually prefer Windows Mobile with Microsoft's Voice Command.
This topic died, but I want to resurrect it.
In response to those that asked if I am crazy, of course I am. But that is not why I wanted to run WM 6.5.x on the Aria. Here are my reasons:
1) The HTC HD Mini (an Aria running WM 6.5) has 900 and 2100 for HSDPA bands. I am on AT&T which uses the 850 and 1900 bands for HSDPA. So I can’t get a high speed connection on the Mini. But the Aria has the AT&T bands.
2) Android is fine, but I prefer WM (no, this is not crazy). I want WM 6.5.x because I am hooked on having the ability to effectively use voice dialing with 2,000+ contacts, having my callers name announced, having my appointments read, and having email sender and subject read (if I want), all over the phone speaker OR Bluetooth earpiece. Tried Android, and it can’t do any of that.
3) I want to easily sync my phone calendar, contacts, tasks, notes, and favorites directly with my PC and my laptop, ActiveSync does it perfectly—Android does not.
Does anyone know how to install WM 6.5.x on the Aria? Any ideas? Thanks.

It can be upgraded to Froyo and I'd expect it to be later this year.

fred57 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to install Windows Mobile 6.5 (from the Aria's brother, the HTC Mini). I want to buy an Aria--but if it can not upgrade to Andriod 2.2 with more Bluetooth calling functionality, I actually prefer Windows Mobile with Microsoft's Voice Command.
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ugh... Just buy the HD Mini.

waltah! said:
It can be upgraded to Froyo and I'd expect it to be later this year.
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Thanks. That justifies the purchase now.

fred57 said:
Thanks. That justifies the purchase now.
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Why? What do we expect in AT&T's version of Froyo that we aren't getting now?

The main question is still being leaved unanswered: It is never possible to install WM on an Android phone.

Im suprised that people want windows mobile on android phones. The only thing i really like about windows mobile is MS Office. But honestly, there is little to no chance of ever getting windows mobile on an android device.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App

Why is this. What is there to keep WM from working on the HTC Aria. I am not a programer and I shure do not understand the innerworking of cell phone operating systems. I own several HD2 phones and found it to be very simple to install cooked roms. I have spent the past two days reading through the forums on the Aria and am not any closer to understanding what is needed to be done to get there. Anyway, It would be nice to see WM working on the Aria.

The aria is just a hd mini with android you want winmo get hd mini check the specs they are pretty much identical

Um im not 100% sure on this
But i believe the bootloaders are different for windows mobile and android phones. There phones are also partitioned differently and just because the phones have identical specs doesn't mean it uses identical components and drivers. I.e. the wifi chip could be a different type, the speakers might be different, you would have to find the correct drivers, IF it were even possible to use the bootloader to boot windows mobile. Its not as simple as flashing an htc hd mini rom to an aria because the phones look the same. But if you really want windows mobile so bad, id say just buy a windows mobile phone.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App

I could be wrong as I am not a cook but from what I understand;
Android seems to work well at adapting to different operating environments. The core is just more versatile than WinMo. A lot of that comes from the more open development environment of Linux and proprietary nature of Microsoft. Android is made to just work unlike Microsoft's archaic mobile platform.
I think of it like this;
Android(Linux) = Nails, They will simply drive into nearly anything and function.
Windows = Screws, Things have to line up perfectly, you usually have to pre-drill, and it takes a lot of twisting.
There seems to be enough failed WM phones out there anyway. I hate to see someone take a functional phone and cripple it. My old tilt went through maybe 15 different WM ROMs and none of them worked as smoothly as Android.

fred57 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to install Windows Mobile 6.5 (from the Aria's brother, the HTC Mini). I want to buy an Aria--but if it can not upgrade to Andriod 2.2 with more Bluetooth calling functionality, I actually prefer Windows Mobile with Microsoft's Voice Command.
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Juss buy a mini [email protected] up the Aria with the outdated stupidity off windows mobile that's like going from a bently(android) to a Buick(WinMo)... DON'T DO IT!!!!
Blackbery Curve 8330>Blackberry Pearl Flip>HTC FUZE>HTC Tilt 2>HTC Aria

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that's like going from a bently(android) to a Buick(WinMo)
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A Buick? You're giving WinMo too much credit.

Shovelhead84 said:
I could be wrong as I am not a cook but from what I understand;
Android seems to work well at adapting to different operating environments. The core is just more versatile than WinMo. A lot of that comes from the more open development environment of Linux and proprietary nature of Microsoft. Android is made to just work unlike Microsoft's archaic mobile platform.
I think of it like this;
Android(Linux) = Nails, They will simply drive into nearly anything and function.
Windows = Screws, Things have to line up perfectly, you usually have to pre-drill, and it takes a lot of twisting.
There seems to be enough failed WM phones out there anyway. I hate to see someone take a functional phone and cripple it. My old tilt went through maybe 15 different WM ROMs and none of them worked as smoothly as Android.
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That's an awesome analogy, I'm gonna have to use it sometime.
I know the HD2 guys are porting Android over to their WM phones. This is the first time I've heard of anyone wanting to go the other way though.

It seems most of the discussion is Android vs. WM, but I think some people just want to know if it's possible to put WM on an Android device.
In all likelihood it probably is though with limited functionality. However there aren't many, if any, devs that are interested in trying to get it to work. For the most part Android has taken over the crown for people who want to tinker with their phone. Even while I had a WM phone it was obvious most of the devs were moving to Android phones, or just porting Android to the WM devices. If you really want WM the easiest way is probably to just get a WM phone, or you'll probably have to do your own work in trying to port.

uberamd said:
A Buick? You're giving WinMo too much credit.
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LOL well i have to i had WinMo at 1 point LMAO

fred57 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to install Windows Mobile 6.5 (from the Aria's brother, the HTC Mini). I want to buy an Aria--but if it can not upgrade to Andriod 2.2 with more Bluetooth calling functionality, I actually prefer Windows Mobile with Microsoft's Voice Command.
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Having not used MS Voice Command I'm not sure exactly what features you are looking for, but Attn1's CM6 Liberty ROM for the Aria has functioning voice dialing over bluetooth.

hd mini and aria
simple problem solver...i have both phones..i enjoy usuing them both but i am starting to sway to the aria.. once i get the att stuff off the phone ill like it even better. just get both then decide.

...perhaps off topic, but what about iOS on an Android phone?

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...perhaps off topic, but what about iOS on an Android phone?
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Never... apple has unique hardware and writes their OS for that hardware... think of it like their comps before the intel switch
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Windows 6.5.X ROM ?

the only way i will get this phone is if there is a Windows 6.5.X rom for it. Does anyone know where i can get a custom ROM from? I want to upgrade from my Touch pro 2 and dont want to switch over to droid!

Have you ever thought of searching it?

eazy2001x said:
the only way i will get this phone is if there is a Windows 6.5.X rom for it. Does anyone know where i can get a custom ROM from? I want to upgrade from my Touch pro 2 and dont want to switch over to droid!
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So you want to downgrade the Epic by installing WM6.5 on it? Just wait until the 7 Pro comes out, for the sake of sanity..please?

eazy2001x said:
the only way i will get this phone is if there is a Windows 6.5.X rom for it. Does anyone know where i can get a custom ROM from? I want to upgrade from my Touch pro 2 and dont want to switch over to droid!
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SWITCH, you won't regret it

amosher13 said:
SWITCH, you won't regret it
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x2, there are several WM converts on here that can assist you if you are looking for specific functions..Android has everything, just about.

mekeke said:
Have you ever thought of searching it?
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Yes i did..
scriz said:
So you want to downgrade the Epic by installing WM6.5 on it? Just wait until the 7 Pro comes out, for the sake of sanity..please?
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I want no part of WM7
and to everyone else.. I just cant make the switch.. :-(

I switched from a TP2, and if you search my name you can see how I went from all WM to several Android phones, and I went back in the Rhodium forums and had discussions about WP7, WM6.5, and Android compared.
I had no intention of switching. I had no interest in WP7. I loaded Android ROMS onto my Rhodium for fun. In our discussions I decided all hardcore WM fans shoudl naturally migrate to Android. The reason is because WP7 is not the XDA Windows that WM was. However Android is. It is like WM in that you can customize everything. It is unlike it only in the fact that we customize here more out of fun than need, because Android is way more inherantly stable. However everything from the dialer, to the lockscreen, to the homescreen, is natively customizable. You just download, install, and hit the 'default' check.
I would suggest you load an Android rom on your Rhodium and check it out.
BTW... I ended up with an Epic 4g bc it was most similar to the Rhodium, however HTC has done amazing work with Sense on Android. It's not a cover on Android, its its own system.

eazy2001x said:
Yes i did..
I want no part of WM7
and to everyone else.. I just cant make the switch.. :-(
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After making the switch to Android from the TP2, holy crap is WinMo garbage. Android is so much ridiculously better.

eazy2001x said:
I want no part of WM7
and to everyone else.. I just cant make the switch.. :-(
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Why so resistant to change? Do you miss the days of the telegraph? Do you wish you could drive a Model T? Flawed logic and resistance to advancement and change is just ludicrous. You may have liked WinMo 6.5, but it's a dead OS. Either go Android, WP7, or just get a plain non-smartphone ffs.

It's easy to find the ROM.
The real question is how are you going to install with your Windows 3.1 computer?

So the answer to my question is?? There is no WM 6.5.X rom?

no. there is not.

Hey, don't be so tough on the guy. I can see where he's coming from...
I was a Windows mobile guy myself (going back before it was put on a phone), and it wasn't easy to just give it up. What got me to switch... was playing with Android before even thinking of making a purchase.
I played around with the Android SDK Virtual for a few days (which I quickly realized was gimped until you start adding the Market and all the apps), but even with just the very basic shell, it was completely functional - moreso than WM.
So, my suggestion is to play with Virtual machine on your PC, or find a friend who will let you fiddle around with their phone. I'm pretty sure you will quickly change your mind.

I had to read this thread. My first thought when I saw the title was that it was a joke. I had come to the conclusion that I would keep my TP2 forever with the Energy roms on it... now it's a whole new world out there and I'm looking forward to all the developers here providing all the "play with" fun I can handle and not just making my phone work. The Epic is wonderful hardware...why hold it back?

Wait.. this was a serious post?.. dude trust me i came from a touch pro 2.. i flashed pretty much every single rom that was made for it an none of them come close to being as good as the epic stock.. i hve no doubt in my min you wont regret the switch
Tapatalkin' it from my EPIC 4g

eazy2001x said:
the only way i will get this phone is if there is a Windows 6.5.X rom for it. Does anyone know where i can get a custom ROM from? I want to upgrade from my Touch pro 2 and dont want to switch over to droid!
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While we are asking silly questions, is there anyone that can port a Rom of Windows Me for the Epic, so I can take a great OS and replace it for a giant steaming pile of crap.

There isn't one, and I don't think it's going to happen.
Windows Mobile is just dead. Microsoft killed it when they decided to ditch it for WP7.
It may be possible someone can get WP7 to run WM programs in some of compatibility layer similar to wine for unix. Of course in that same token, ARM is ARM, it should be similarly possible to get WM running in a virtual machine on Android, but a lot less likely. Mostly because, even though WP7 isn't WM, it is in fact still running on Windows CE.
So hypothetically it could be as simple as copying over some dll's from WM. It'll probably be a lot harder than that, and quite possibly too hard for the dev community that's left clinging to WM.
Unlike some people here, I have a lot of respect for your position. WM is an OS written for a handheld computer that had a phone added to it as an afterthought. I liked this, because I used it on PDA's before that. I even remember telling people, "one day your PDA, cell phone, and music player will all be the same thing".
While I'm just being silly, I tell you what I'd really like to see, and that's a netbook with a "snap in" (a piece of hardware) handset. We're already carrying around 5" devices, let's go on up to a netbook size, but have the phone part detachable. At this point I almost feel silly carrying around a laptop AND a smartphone, because there's so much redundancy. I'll just put the netbook in a manpurse and be done with it.
So anyway, back on topic, no there's not a WM ROM for the Epic, and I seriously doubt there will ever be. The reason simply boils down to drivers. There won't ever been any drivers written for Galaxy S hardware for WM, and writing drivers is really tough stuff. There probably aren't even that many people who know how to write WM drivers from scratch, let alone in the dev community. And it would take so many man hours you'd really need a team to do it before the hardware reached obsolescence.
You really have three options at this point. The first is to wean yourself off WM. Android really, really is linux running on a phone, with a pretty GUI. The GUI is so good that, until you really dig down into it, it's hard to realize that. Think about what you like about WM, and then see if you can get the same functionality out of Android. Almost everyone does if they give it an honest try.
The second is to see what Microsoft is going to offer you in terms of continued support for WM. There's some talk about them separating consumer mobile Windows (WP7S) from business mobile Windows. Motorola did the ES400, and more might follow. But that could be a tougher pill to swallow than swapping platforms. (More info here.)
The third is rely on the dev community to get virtualization or a compatibility layer for WP7 going, and hopefully mod the UI.
That's really it. I wish you the best. I decided like a lot of people here to swithch to Android, and I haven't regretted it one bit. The Epic is an amazing device. There's an Android learning curve, but it's really not that bad.

thank you for your reply.. Ill just wait it out for the next big thing like the TP3 and hope that it comes out W/O Win7. also thank you to anyone who gave me a simple answer to my question.. "NO"..

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Ill just wait it out for the next big thing like the TP3 and hope that it comes out W/O Win7.
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Never buying a new phone again eh?

I just stumbled on this thread... HA. I came from the mogul->tp->tp2 and I am so glad I am rid of windows mobile. My wife has my old tp2, and I hate working on it now. Roms w/ android are just better all around.
Anything wimo can do android can do better.