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I was curious if one of the senior members could explain how people are able to achieve some of these crazy mflop and mhz when you go to the linpack site. I understand that the droid has a beefier processor so I get the 1300 mhz numbers - I just dont understand how you could hit 80 mflops.
Are these stable everyday devices or are they maxed out to hit the number and then dialed back for normal use.
Thanks.

The Linpack results are manipulable. If you know what you are doing you can get it to say pretty much what ever you'd like it to say.

I have no clue either, but I saw framework hit 8 mflops with evil Eris 3 Rom

korben dallas said:
I have no clue either, but I saw framework hit 8 mflops with evil Eris 3 Rom
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No you didn't. That's fake also and was done well before Evil Eris 3 was done. I assure that Framework is not running a 1ghz overclock on an Evil Eris 3.0 rom. The 5.6 value is the highest legitimate value.

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No you didn't. That's fake also and was done well before Evil Eris 3 was done. I assure that Framework is not running a 1ghz overclock on an Evil Eris 3.0 rom. The 5.6 value is the highest legitimate value.
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Well I did see it regardless if it was fake.

Thats cool - Thanks guys - seemed kind of unrealistic.
I and running XTR and hit about 2.6 - 3.1 @ 710mhz.
Anytime I exceed 710 I get boot looped.

pjsockett said:
No you didn't. That's fake also and was done well before Evil Eris 3 was done. I assure that Framework is not running a 1ghz overclock on an Evil Eris 3.0 rom. The 5.6 value is the highest legitimate value.
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Yeah I can confirm, I hit this number with Tainted Vanilla 1.4, JIT, overclock to 806mhz, and Airplane Mode enabled.

LexusBrian400 said:
Yeah I can confirm, I hit this number with Tainted Vanilla 1.4, JIT, overclock to 806mhz, and Airplane Mode enabled.
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seriously?
the highest i hit was 5.43 or something and that was white widow 3.2 767 overclocked and nothing running in the background... i should try airplane mode.

I faked them, linpack is worthless.

I put froyo on my wife's droid and it gets 9.8 consistently without messing with her everyday settings. It only has a 800mhz kernel too.
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I put froyo on my wife's droid and it gets 9.8 consistently without messing with her everyday settings. It only has a 800mhz kernel too.
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and that is NOT Unbelievable. (Thats not sarcasm BTW)
Froyo is like:
Giving your phone extacy...
Its fasstttt

Moar mFlops plz

So I was running Salvage and now I'm running cm7 nightly 18 and I'm wondering: what's up with my benchmarking being so low? Can't seem to break 41 on Linpack and my quadrant scores are sticking in the low-1000s (they were up around 1300 on a fresh install).
I've seen other people who have had this complaint, and I know benchmarks aren't that important since my phone is running really well, but I want to see some seriously awesome results and I'm wondering if it has something to do with my kernel (savaged-zen), too many widgets on my hoam screen, playing too much ninjump, etc.

tubazeppelin said:
So I was running Salvage and now I'm running cm7 nightly 18 and I'm wondering: what's up with my benchmarking being so low? Can't seem to break 41 on Linpack and my quadrant scores are sticking in the low-1000s (they were up around 1300 on a fresh install).
I've seen other people who have had this complaint, and I know benchmarks aren't that important since my phone is running really well, but I want to see some seriously awesome results and I'm wondering if it has something to do with my kernel (savaged-zen), too many widgets on my hoam screen, playing too much ninjump, etc.
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Highest I broke was about 45 running a toast/net kernel on a sense rom with about 1600 on quads. I break about 41 on cm7 with savagezen. Its really hard to takes scores on the evo serious though they don't mean ish. I also had to delete linpack and quadrant from my phone cause I kept worrying/stressing about scores etc lol. Now I don't download them at all and my life has been great ever since.
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Highest I broke was about 45 running a toast/net kernel on a sense rom with about 1600 on quads. I break about 41 on cm7 with savagezen. Its really hard to takes scores on the evo serious though they don't mean ish. I also had to delete linpack and quadrant from my phone cause I kept worrying/stressing about scores etc lol. Now I don't download them at all and my life has been great ever since.
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Yeah I'm thinking it might start coming to that. I just don't want to be sacrificing performance thanks to having things set up wrong. I'm coming from a Hero where your paltry 4.5 mflops were a true sign that you had your phone organized correctly, and it was going to randomly restart in 8 minutes because you had JIT running.

tubazeppelin said:
Yeah I'm thinking it might start coming to that. I just don't want to be sacrificing performance thanks to having things set up wrong. I'm coming from a Hero where your paltry 4.5 mflops were a true sign that you had your phone organized correctly, and it was going to randomly restart in 8 minutes because you had JIT running.
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+1 I came from the hero also with 4.5 running darchdroid/cm6 lol. It wasn't going to get any better than 4.5 ahh I remember those days man. With the evo I don't recommend taking stock in scores because its just not gonna get any better. My chicks g2 out the box stock(800mhz) is 1550 on quads and like 60 on linpack lol of course w/ help of their newer processors. Our evos are kind of maxed out I guess you could say. Jit doesn't help much its only keeping our apps warm and ready not really effecting scores much. I'd say what were getting now is about the best man. I still love my evo and hopefully it will last until my upgrade this September when newer phones are out.
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dirkyd3rk said:
+1 I came from the hero also with 4.5 running darchdroid/cm6 lol. It wasn't going to get any better than 4.5 ahh I remember those days man. With the evo I don't recommend taking stock in scores because its just not gonna get any better. My chicks g2 out the box stock(800mhz) is 1550 on quads and like 60 on linpack lol of course w/ help of their newer processors. Our evos are kind of maxed out I guess you could say. Jit doesn't help much its only keeping our apps warm and ready not really effecting scores much. I'd say what were getting now is about the best man. I still love my evo and hopefully it will last until my upgrade this September when newer phones are out.
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Man I was planning on upgrading in May but I got bit by the Sprint Premium downgrade, and all the sudden my upgrade turned into "use it or lose it" by April 1. I'd much rather be stuck with the EVO for 2 years than the Hero for another year. That poor little phone just doesn't cut it anymore. Right now I'm trying to figure out how I can get a full upgrade next year, or perhaps just get a new phone for Christmas, which is about the time I'll be sick of the EVO.
Still, for now I'm loving this thing. It's like going from an '88 Accord to a 2010 Cadillac.

Atrix quadrant scores

Hello everyone. What's a good quadrant score for a stock 860? I have been seeing 2600-2650 on average, is this fairly common for this model? Is there a good way to prepare to take the test by closing apps, features etc?
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Ive been averaging consistent 2500 of four attempts in quadrant after the 4.1.57 update. I normally run it just after start up and I get those scores.

I achieved 2740 with 4.1.57

I've gotten around 2900 once, but it usually falls between 2650 and 2800. To be fair though Quadrant only tests a single core, if you compare it vs say an inspire on stock rom (Or probably even a custom) at stock clocks it will only get about 1900-2100. So really the Atrix gets 20%-30% better scores and it's only using 1 of 2 cores. Another thing you'd notice on the Atrix is it has nearly no slowdowns, even an Inspire running at a 1.8 OC (battery life is horrible) will bog when you install/update programs while doing something else because it's still a single core and needs to share cycles across programs where the Atrix can devote a core to all background activities and the other to what you're doing in the foreground. I didn't really notice how fast the Atrix was until I had to fix something on my girlfriends Captivate (Gave her mine when I upgraded) and she has like 25 apps and a custom rom with a 1.4 OC and OMG it felt so slow compared to my Atrix.

I got a 2774 with the gingerblur ROM. That's the best I've ever gotten and I've run it on stock, 1.52, the new update and gingerblur. Gingerblur has gotten me, by far the highest and most consistent scores of all. I usually run between 2600-2750 under normal usage, which is quite a bit.
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smartbench 2011 it said to support dual core. Have any of you run that app to see what kind of scores you get? On quadrant I get around 2400-2500.
With Smart bench I get around 2900 on productivity and around 2400 on game index

aszrael1266 said:
smartbench 2011 it said to support dual core. Have any of you run that app to see what kind of scores you get? On quadrant I get around 2400-2500.
With Smart bench I get around 2900 on productivity and around 2400 on game index
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That's about what I get, it's also funny (although not surprisingly) the single cores get obliterated except for a galaxy S because the GPU in those are amazing.

aszrael1266 said:
smartbench 2011 it said to support dual core. Have any of you run that app to see what kind of scores you get? On quadrant I get around 2400-2500.
With Smart bench I get around 2900 on productivity and around 2400 on game index
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Maybe this will interest you:
smartphonebenchmarks.com/

Hianz said:
Maybe this will interest you:
smartphonebenchmarks.com/
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I saw an Atrix running 2.3.3 in that listing. How is that possible? Faking the OS or something?

NoNameAtAll said:
I saw an Atrix running 2.3.3 in that listing. How is that possible? Faking the OS or something?
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No, you have to register in that listing. So Maybe he has registered false data. You only have to proof it with a screenshot when you are in the top 20.

i usually hit 2600-2800 on gingerblur but have hit 3000 before.

i got 2449 here

I average 2900 or so lately though I've been hitting 3000+ consistently. Im running rooted 4.1.57 pushing cpu to a constant 1ghz with setcpu. Hopefully once they get over clock we'll be on par with the xoom
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I've gotten around 2900 once, but it usually falls between 2650 and 2800. To be fair though Quadrant only tests a single core, if you compare it vs say an inspire on stock rom (Or probably even a custom) at stock clocks it will only get about 1900-2100. So really the Atrix gets 20%-30% better scores and it's only using 1 of 2 cores. Another thing you'd notice on the Atrix is it has nearly no slowdowns, even an Inspire running at a 1.8 OC (battery life is horrible) will bog when you install/update programs while doing something else because it's still a single core and needs to share cycles across programs where the Atrix can devote a core to all background activities and the other to what you're doing in the foreground. I didn't really notice how fast the Atrix was until I had to fix something on my girlfriends Captivate (Gave her mine when I upgraded) and she has like 25 apps and a custom rom with a 1.4 OC and OMG it felt so slow compared to my Atrix.
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1-what kernel were you using when this 'bog' down happened at 1.8 ghz when something was updating. cause my inspire at 1.8 ghz while downloading a file through web, and updating apps in the market will still be faster than the atrix. ive NEVER even had so much as a hiccup at 1.8 ghz on my kernel, and i just did exactly that, downloaded a file, while 4 apps were updating in the market, and at the same time opened app to qr, and the apps loaded instantly. the atrix takes a few seconds for it to load up, with nothing at all going on, with all bloat removed and only the factory default apps on it. the inspire has over 100. also, i posted this elsewhere also, testing my kernel yesterday running at 1804 mhz all day long, i got over 16 hours off a charge with 3.5 hours screen on time. screen brightness was at 100%. if it was at 50 it could have went much longer. not horrible if you ask me. the inspire with a single core doesnt lag when a live wallpaper is put on it, and i can actually type on the keyboard without having to correct errors every other word cause its lags so bad.
just another note, my inspire rom and kernel at default 1ghz (no overclock) hit 2700+ quadrant

I just got 4000 on CM7

4900 with cm7 + overclock to 1.3ghz ;P
the motoblur software and at&t crap really slows stuff down.

Quadrant score

What rom has the highest quad score for the vibrant?
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Depends on many factors, not just the rom. There's also the Kernel, OCing, UVing and even the launcher.

Highest I have had without an overclock was 2456, and that was on Simply Galaxy v3 RC3 (Port from i9000) with all the tweaks engaged. It was very very fast. Faster than any other ROM I have used, even with overclock. Hell, if I could OC with that ROM I would bet that I could break 3000+ quads easy. But quads are worthless. You just have to try using the phone with the speed of that ROM. I didn't know the vibrant could be that fast.

Running Trigger right now. Get anywhere from 1400-1600. Runs ok. Was just wondering what some of the other Rome were capable of. How is the Simply Galaxy rom? I personally don't know anyone who has used it.
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2750 Quadrant.
Darky 9.5 Froyo 2.2.1 base rom, 1.48Ghz Bullet Kernel linked in my sig.
Phone is FLYIN. Gingerbread 2.3.3 builds can go higher (but have bugs).

I got a Quadrant of 3300.....!!
I was using my TI-83 calculator with a tic-tac stuck in the DC in slot!

2000 flat w/ bi winning V2 no OC w/ voodoo. VERY FAST though. Quadrant doesn't give it justice.

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2750 Quadrant.
Darky 9.5 Froyo 2.2.1 base rom, 1.48Ghz Bullet Kernel linked in my sig.
Phone is FLYIN. Gingerbread 2.3.3 builds can go higher (but have bugs).
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I get the same on darkys rom
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Quads dont mean anything.
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I have a 3500 quadrant. On top of that, my battery increases 2% every hour as a result.

I'm running Android 3.3 on mine. 4700 quadrant score and when I plug my usb up to my laptop the phone charges it.

5000 with a V8 hemi under the hood!

With the battery in, I get around 16K but I only get 8K if I take the battery out.
I'm using the FBS ROM.

Speaking of Quadrant...It sucks

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Speaking of Quadrant...It sucks
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I second this.
So useless of an app, it has nothing to do with the actually smoothness and snapyness in any phone. Sometimes I feel it's scores are the other way around, the lowest you get the better your phone is

I'm a total lurker, but after "bricking" my vibrant about 3 weeks after getting it home last Fall and discovering the fix here, I've been tweaking, wiping, flashing, odining, and having a helluva lot of fun with it. I'll probably betray myself as still being a noob, but I see everyone kind of poo-pooing Quadrant as meaningless (and other benchmarks, it seems). Is there any objective measurement that you guys consider worthwhile?
I thought I was all hot **** for breaking the 2K mark, but I guess none of that matters?
Trigger 3.2 with Bullet 1.42...just added bullet, so currently OC'd to 1.2 while I get a feel for what the phone can handle.

anthonys2r said:
I have a 3500 quadrant. On top of that, my battery increases 2% every hour as a result.
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What are you currently on and what kernel are you using?

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What are you currently on and what kernel are you using?
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He was obviously being sarcastic. Can't believe someone fell for the increasing battery **** LOL.
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On Biwinning with o.c. I am getting 2580 ....... but it does not perform ant better than leaving the clock @ 1000 so I leave unclocked ......... I get great battery life then...........

Quadrant is amusing...
but it's not always telling of how a rom actually performs. Back in the day when we were using the OCLF, quad scrores were in the 2k range and that was with 2.1
That being said, I felt compelled to post this anyway, mainly just to show the cpu score improvement that we get with gingerbread. My phone was running Cyanogenmod7 at stock speeds. Comparing quadrant scores between roms that are all based off of each other is pointless.
The 1815 score is from CM7
The 1755 score is from MIUI
MIUI performs great, but it's not as buttery smooth as CM7. But from the two scores you wouldn't see that. More importantly I think this also lends to what I said about comparing two scores between roms that are based off of each other.

Why do YOU Overclock (or refuse to) on the Atrix?

After the release of Clemsyn's 1.6 GHz Kernel for CM7 based ROMs last night, I immediately switched to it just to see.
But before that I was running Faux123 1.3 GHz.
I'm keeping the Clemsyn kernel for now, simply because I can. My phone can run it with little difficulty thus far and I have a profile to lower the max freq when the CPU gets to a certain temperature. I think I went with about 65 Celsisus.
Before I switched back to CM7 (or rather Neutrino) I was using Wet Dream. I OCed to 1.45 then in attempt to compensate for only half decent webtop performance.
But now I really only do it because I can. Whenever possible, my phone is on the lapdock since I like to HDMI mirror. Battery is not a concern since the lapdock charges the phone and I pretty much always keep the lapdock charger on hand in my bag.
I just thought it would be an interesting subject for the community to discuss as I'm sure it's something that a number of us haven't even thought of and I bet a good number of us fall into the because I can or bragging rights category.
Specific instances of problems OCing helped with in x app or y app might make someone else want to OC whereas someone who doesn't OC might persuade a user like myself to drop it for amazing battery ETC.
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Why I DO OC.
Right now I have my Atrix OC'ed at 1.45. I'm currently running Alien ROM Build #4.
The CPU has never gotten past ~55º C.
I also have 2 profiles set
1 for Screen off - 800 MHz max.
1 for Battery< 10% -216 MHz max.
This paired with Alien ROM and LP has left me with a buttery smooth experience.
Is the 1.6 OC kernel worth giving a shot? Or does it make the CPU run excessively hot?
EDIT: I didn't really address battery life. I don't notice a huge decrease in battery life, I'm a pretty heavy user- SMS, Web, Video streaming, Facebook, Twitter. Over all OC'ing is definitely worth it to me.

I like to keep mine overclocked because it seems snapier. I use faux 1.45 and its great. Ive noticed clem's likes to make my phone very hot when running video or games and has actually shut my phone down due to heat. If I run clems I like to drop the overclock with setcpu to around 1.3 so it doesnt shut down but seems to get way hotter than faux's. Anything over 1.5 is just going to cause damage to peoples phones and IMO it should not be used so lightly.

I'm OC'd to 1.45ghz I do it for performance and those random times I need to benchmark I want to try 1.5-6 but I can't seem to get them to boot with the ICS mod2 cm7 so till cm9 or neutrino ill just float about with what I have
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No need for 1.6 IMO.
1.3 is plenty for the Atrix. Even Faux 1.0 is fine. Its a phone, not a PC.
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I dunno...my webtop configuration may want to take exception to that statement

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I dunno...my webtop configuration may want to take exception to that statement
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i honestly haven't been able to really tell a difference between 1.0 and 1.3GHz in most of my applications. it definitely doesn't help with system slowdown due to live wallpapers, which is a disappointment.

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I dunno...my webtop configuration may want to take exception to that statement
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Haha, I was in that boat before I switched to HDMI mirroring coupled with VNC or Splashtop (when applicable) from experience, I can tell why Webtop users want OC. You can turn your phone into such a useful computer, and then it falls flat on its face because the inner-workings aren't streamlined. The extra power DOES help in that situation.
But in my actual experience, I haven't seen many realworld benefits past 1.2.
Especially since 1.6 kept eventually shutting down on me after about an hour (assuming there is the same issue as in Clemsyn 1.5, setting your max to a lower frequency than 1.6 won't stick so my temperature profile wouldn't actually work)
My "because I can" mindset is going to leave me stuck on 1.45 though most likely. I keep it maxed at 1.2(or is it 1.1? I'm not using the kernel right now) and then have a profile to ramp it up to 1.45 when it's on the charger (aka my lapdock)
I don't think it is quite the same for Blur based ROMs, but on CM7 1.0 seems perfectly adequate for the Atrix. Even at it's stock speed, it is snappy.
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I dont overclock. I used to be at 1.3ghz, but I didnt see a big enough difference to keep it. At least on CM7, the Atrix is plenty fast on stock speed.

I overclock, but I wait for thoroughly tested kernels before doing so. Right now I'm with faux's v023r @ 1.3 Ghz. I'll try Clemsyn's after its second or third "redesign" or bugfix.

I stick to optimal battery life kernels rather than performance (faux 123 0.2.3 being the one I'm currently on and most likely will be for the foreseeable future)
Also I can't imagine performance possibly getting any quicker or running programs any faster than they already are on the atrix.

Honestly, I never understood why people oc their phone, especially the Atrix. I mean the phone is already fast being that it is 1Ghz dual core. Plus from what I have seen, the Atrix overheats like crazy with the stock frequency so why would you want to increase that even more, so it explodes? I use my phone to mostly play 3D games and I have never encountered any lag or low fps whenever I play games.

Atrix_Owner said:
Honestly, I never understood why people oc their phone, especially the Atrix. I mean the phone is already fast being that it is 1Ghz dual core. Plus from what I have seen, the Atrix overheats like crazy with the stock frequency so why would you want to increase that even more, so it explodes? I use my phone to mostly play 3D games and I have never encountered any lag or low fps whenever I play games.
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The Atrix is plenty fast already. I can understand if you OC a HTC Magic, or a Hero; but there's no real need to do so on the Atrix.

Idk I see a difference on any launcher when I flip through pages and through apps. 1.3 or 1.45. But I def notice the difference in snappyness.
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95% of the time I overclock I do it for getting awesome benchmark scores that I can admire. 5% of the time I do it when playing 3D games like Fruit Ninja, It seems a lot smoother to me. But I hardly ever do it because it sucks the battery down so fast, so usually I'm at 1ghz. Also it's just kind of cool to see the the potential the phone has when overclocking.

i used faux's kernel to overclock to 1.3 for a few months but i didnt really see any difference except when i run quadrant or how my phone got hotter than stock when under load. another thing that annoyed me with faux's kernel was constantly losing widgets on reboot. i use two batteries so i reboot pretty often.

I used faux 23r 1.4GHz with setCPU profiles.
Profiles clamped speed to 1ghz at cpu temp of 50degc and 800mhz at 60degc.
Most noticeable difference was in k9 mail, indexing and searching were slightly improved.
I ran it so I would get a short boost if the cpu was cold.
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Hey
On my old and feeble Hero I had to OC, if I wanted it to run fine, however I never felt the need to OC my Atrix. it has so much juice in it without OC, making it useless to squeeze the battery for the extra 0.2-0.5 GHz. Moreover, since we have no real ICS, our CPU runs freely and waste energy for nothing, so OC it will just make it run ever faster for nothing (In Hebrew there is a saying- running full throttle on neutral ).
I used to run Faux123 1.0Ghz kernel just to UV the device, but since I flashed weekly 6 I use the stock kernel, and it runs great, no overheating, and extremely stable (What cannot be said on UV kernels...)

The only time i oc is when using webtop, that extra speed makes a difference. The rest of the its running at 1ghz and seems plenty
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