Has anyone a definitive answer to the above question ?
Just out of curiosity, but the answer can also lead to the right direction to find a right procedure to flash the phone w/o SEUS help.
Mobinnova
http://www.obsessable.com/company/mobinnova/
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Thanks for your answer, but I think that the question has still sense.
Ferrari is owned by Fiat, but saying "built by ferrari" or "built by fiat" are not synonyms.
Afaik the iphone is built directly by Foxconn and not Mobinnova and from the technical point of view this can lead to great differences.
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The Solutor said:
Thanks for your answer, but I think that the question has still sense.
Ferrari is owned by Fiat, but saying "built by ferrari" or "built by fiat" are not synonyms.
Afaik the iphone is built directly by Foxconn and not Mobinnova and from the technical point of view this can lead to great differences.
P.S. Your link is wrongly formatted...
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yes it's true , but mobinnova 's phones are not common , it's hard to find answers to your question.
SE didn't make a good deal tor switch between from HTC to Mobinnova
kariimb said:
yes it's true , but mobinnova 's phones are not common , it's hard to find answers to your question.
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I know that is not an easy question, this is because I asked on this forum and not just Googled, as usual.
SE didn't make a good deal tor switch between from HTC to Mobinnova
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I can't agree: I think that X2 is an incredibly well built phone, surely better built than the X1 or the average HTC phone.
Its drawbacks are almost all on the SW side and in some project choices, so it's SE to blame and not Mobinnova Foxconn or whatever.
Obiviously the weak and well known HTC bootloader could be a nice addon, but this is not related with the build quality.
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I can't agree: I think that X2 is an incredibly well built phone, surely better built than the X1 or the average HTC phone.
Its drawbacks are almost all on the SW side and in some project choices, so it's SE to blame and not Mobinnova Foxconn or whatever.
Obiviously the weak and well known HTC bootloader could be a nice addon, but this is not related with the build quality.
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You didn't understand my opinion , It's better to us if SE was made the X2 with HTC , because in this case it' was easiest to "hard speel"
kariimb said:
You didn't understand my opinion , It's better to us if SE was made the X2 with HTC , because in this case it' was easiest to "hard speel"
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Yes this is sure.
I'm afraid that we have to find a workaround like what happened with the Milestone on the android side....
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Does anyone know if the crappy camera on O2 Mini (magician) can be upgraded/changed to a nokia camera or any other make camera that is better than the standard ones?
Yes - by getting a Nokia phone instead. All HTC devices have a crap camera, a no amount of firmware upgrade will help. Nor can you change the hardware. So either undderstand that this device has a mediocre camera - or get anothe model of phone with a better camera.
skagen said:
Yes - by getting a Nokia phone instead.
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How did you think of this?! you're so clever!
skagen said:
All HTC devices have a crap camera, a no amount of firmware upgrade will help.
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I think I know this.. thats why im asking about the HW upgrade.
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Nor can you change the hardware.
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You might be able to.. someone who has access to lots spare parts of mobile phones may want to answer this... maybe not now but in the near future..
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So either undderstand that this device has a mediocre camera - or get anothe model of phone with a better camera.
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I understand.. but Im not getting another phone.. also theres nothing wrong with hoping..
The reason, I guess, that the guy was so hostile was because questions like this are ALWAYS asked on phone forums.
For instance, I used to have a SL45, and the questions that were asked over and over again were: "Can you upgrade the SL45 to colour screen, more memory, symbian operating system, polyphonic speaker".
The answer is always: maybe...if you understand how to completely change the insides of the phone...because it'll require more than just a quick swap-over to upgrade the camera. And, in any case, the average person probably doesn't have the knowledge to do it...and the ones that do probably think it's not worth their time.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/19/microsoft-set-to-unveil-mobileme-competitor-next-month
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http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/19/microsoft-set-to-unveil-mobileme-competitor-next-month
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But is it going to be ported for XPERIA too? I don't know I am completely disappointed by SE's software/firmware department. As soon as they sell the device to you then they "don't know you anymore".
im OK with the SE service. its a WinMo device. so basicly thats like a Windows PC. install, deliver and see what the user make out of it.
it can be (soft)modded to death and leaves u pretty much possibilities. but basicly, if u dont want to "hack" ur phone, the device is utter crap
for the 6.5 update, shouldnt be much of a problem. either SE releases it, or we just rip it off from other devices like we allready do. Most of our new ROMs are from the Blackstone allready.
codenamed SkyBox, SkyLine and SkyMarket.
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and after that: SKYNET
itje said:
and after that: SKYNET
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Nice one Anyway, I do fear that...
LOL! SkyLine? i bet they were playing games when they come up with the names...
Is there a way to COMPLETELY replace the android and UI and Timescape and Mediascape that come with Xperia X10?
How?
What would you install?
Would like like to change the OS or just version of your Android? Do you want to remove the components or the whole OS?
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Would like like to change the OS or just version of your Android? Do you want to remove the components or the whole OS?
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I don't like SE UI. Guess it consumes a lot of hardware resources.
I would like my Xperia X10 to run the system the HTC Desire runs, for instance.
I would like to change the whole thing.
Is it possible? How?
What OS would you install then?
Answer to all them questions
No it's not possible. You can change to a diffrent home menu. Try adw launcher. But thats about it
What your asking for is possible.. but not until the bootloader has been cracked and someone has created custom ROM based on HTC Sense, but with all of the drivers etc for the X10 hardware..
But I have to ask.. why didn't you buy a HTC if you prefer their UI?
Oh.. and I don't think that your theory.. "Guess it consumes a lot of hardware resources." is valid.. but just to be sure - which resources are you talking about?? Battery? Memory? Processor bandwidth?
u guys dont know how to answer that question cuz they didnt understand that but i do but i dont know how to do that.i also want to know that.but i know one thing u can update the original software by going to SE repair center.but u have to pay for it.in my country i have to pay $50
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u guys dont know how to answer that question cuz they didnt understand that but i do but i dont know how to do that.i also want to know that.but i know one thing u can update the original software by going to SE repair center.but u have to pay for it.in my country i have to pay $50
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What? That makes no sence.
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Is there a way to COMPLETELY replace the android and UI and Timescape and Mediascape that come with Xperia X10?
How?
What would you install?
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Why would you buy the X10 to begin with...? There's dozens of phones that come with stock Android.
To answer your (weird) question: No. Not until the bootloader is cracked and the devs make a new ROM.
I'm utterly confused by you.
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Why would you buy the X10 to begin with...? There's dozens of phones that come with stock Android.
To answer your (weird) question: No. Not until the bootloader is cracked and the devs make a new ROM.
I'm utterly confused by you.
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In his defense: Timescape looks pretty good and it even works well enough for demo purposes. It's when you really start using the phone it becomes useless so it's an easy mistake to make.
But yeah, I'm confused too.
im_iceman said:
What your asking for is possible.. but not until the bootloader has been cracked and someone has created custom ROM based on HTC Sense, but with all of the drivers etc for the X10 hardware..
But I have to ask.. why didn't you buy a HTC if you prefer their UI?
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Oh, well.. Let's wait foi it then.
In Brazil, HTC are rare and I couldn't find any shops or carriers that sell them. On the contrary, Sony Ericsson is popular and has lots shops and technical assistance in case I need.
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Oh.. and I don't think that your theory.. "Guess it consumes a lot of hardware resources." is valid.. but just to be sure - which resources are you talking about?? Battery? Memory? Processor bandwidth?
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Especially battery and memory. But could I be wrong?
On the aesthetics side, I don't like the low customisation level that SE UI offers...
lildic said:
u guys dont know how to answer that question cuz they didnt understand that but i do but i dont know how to do that.i also want to know that.but i know one thing u can update the original software by going to SE repair center.but u have to pay for it.in my country i have to pay $50
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Listen... I'm not talking about updating. I'm talking about replacing completely. So that my SE Xperia X10 would look and behave just like an HTC.
You can find anything on Ebay, remember that...
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Why would you buy the X10 to begin with...? There's dozens of phones that come with stock Android.
To answer your (weird) question: No. Not until the bootloader is cracked and the devs make a new ROM.
I'm utterly confused by you.
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Look at posts #11 and #12.
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In his defense: Timescape looks pretty good and it even works well enough for demo purposes. It's when you really start using the phone it becomes useless so it's an easy mistake to make.
But yeah, I'm confused too.
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I'm getting a bit confused myself. But you can look at posts #11 and #12.
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You can find anything on Ebay, remember that...
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I know it. But when it comes to a fairly expensive piece of equipment I would like to buy one from a brand which offers technical assistance in my country.
It will, but we still have to wait till they crack the boatloader and make SE hardware compatible with the 2.2 Froyo.
2.1 is coming this month sooo
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Please use your update button, would be nice if you post all your comments etc in one post
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I know it. But when it comes to a fairly expensive piece of equipment I would like to buy one from a brand which offers technical assistance in my country.
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You do realize that by replacing the OS on your phone, you lose that technical support, right?
Also, the amount of customization on the X10 is equal to any HTC phone. The beauty of Android means you can change things to look like you want them too. Just look at any theme thread. People have changed the notification bar, the font, the menu colors, and system icons. Has nothing to do with what phone they are using.
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You do realize that by replacing the OS on your phone, you lose that technical support, right?
Also, the amount of customization on the X10 is equal to any HTC phone. The beauty of Android means you can change things to look like you want them too. Just look at any theme thread. People have changed the notification bar, the font, the menu colors, and system icons. Has nothing to do with what phone they are using.
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I'll take it in consideration.
Following on from THIS thread which raises a valid point imo...
The Galaxy Spica (also known as the i5700) has been blessed with multitouch support in some homebrew drivers that are making their way into homebrew kernels for homebrew ROMs, despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time. Really drives home the point that "support" can refer both to the hardware's capability and the manufacturer's willingness to maximize it, doesn't it?
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-mobile.engadget.com
...MT may just be possible after all.
It means nothing.
IBTL.
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It means nothing.
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Or could mean it is possible, but will take a developer to realise it.
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
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Who knows now, but this news opens up to the possibility that it just might work...
despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time.
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As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
This is just another pointless thread, When we crack the boot loader and can put on Custom Roms we will find out if its a yes or a no, till then we can all debade the meanings of life and all the other types to topics that are there to waste time.
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This is just another pointless thread
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It might be, in your opinion, the point of the thread is to highlight that another handset of which it's maker said MT wasn't available now actually is thanks to a developer, so there just might be a possibility that other handsets sold with no MT support might not necessarily be because of a hardware issue.
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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they have to say something, if it supports, SE wont launch drivers for it so soon... Without know the model of the panel, no way to know.
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As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
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I just love how you refer to it everytime without fail, as crapple.
I think the best way is asking a SE dev if x10 supports MT
Maybe SE will enable it on 2.1 if the hardware supports it....
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Im closing this because it could have easily been put into the other multitouch debate threads
Anyone knows if x8 can support multitouch. Is it hardware limitation or just software stupidity of SE?
While I was reading x10 news about multitouch, the article basically said the phone developers themselves had to "hack" the phone and enable it via software.
Basically if I understood it correctly from the article, the hardware is flagged as "non supportive", while it can be enabled via software.
That above ^ makes no sense, so I'd just say it's a software issue.
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While I was reading x10 news about multitouch, the article basically said the phone developers themselves had to "hack" the phone and enable it via software.
Basically if I understood it correctly from the article, the hardware is flagged as "non supportive", while it can be enabled via software.
That above ^ makes no sense, so I'd just say it's a software issue.
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If thats right,ppl can make it multitouch
I wish that will happen
Look here:
www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=199987
So we just 'might' get multitouch too.
Can someone try this.
Please.
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Look here:
So we just 'might' get multitouch too.
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Right, basically means the software for multitouch is already done.
Now let's see how long it'll take them to dispatch the update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907736
similar :/
Does the X8 digitizer support multi touch?
Yes, it does.
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Right, basically means the software for multitouch is already done.
Now let's see how long it'll take them to dispatch the update
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yeah.. if the 2.2 & 2.3 update will not come, so we can forget about the multitouch.
Tehouster said:
yeah.. if the 2.2 & 2.3 update will not come, so we can forget about the multitouch.
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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nice job.
but I can always put the original firmware from 2.2 OS or 2.3
Yes, we also can do it. But it won't work.
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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Excuse me for being upfront, but you'll have to change your slogan in that mini "campaign"
The whole intention of them not updating software is most likely to just force you to buy new versions of mobile phones you already have ( x10 -> arc, x8 -> some new phone that'll come in 2011 ).
So it's all the same for them if you stick to your x8 for example, as the only thing they're attempting to do here is to force you to buy a new mobile phone - if you don't succumb to it, they don't give a flying **** cause you'll be stuck on a outdated, non-updating platform, and it's in your best interest to get off it if you're at least a bit of a tech savvy individual.
Also, people who stick with Sony Ericsson brand since their first phone ( such as myself, from old Ericsson t20e 'till newest x8 ), is their main market. No matter how bad service is, I won't change my mobile phone brand, as it's something I've gotten used to ever since I was 8 ( 13 years later, still using the same brand ), and same goes for many many users out there who don't need tech stuff like most of us here on xda want.
At least that's my point of view on it.
Sad really, but heh :\ Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread, and I signed up on facebook for the 2.2 support.
if is for X10, so it's will be for X8 also
NEW UPDATE
Tehouster said:
if is for X10, so it's will be for X8 also
NEW UPDATE
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possible dude but only the employer know it yet :S
@refract : I dont know.I think I will never buy a SE again if they dont publish new updates like 2.2+ for SE X8 because for exp : If I buy a new SE mobile next year,maybe will there again no updates for it -.-
Next phones will have better updates schedule.
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Does anybone here knows how to root x8 running on android 2.1??
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use search amit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811457
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Does anybone here knows how to root x8 running on android 2.1??
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after rooting x8, do we have available ROMs here?