Is there a way to COMPLETELY replace the android and UI and Timescape and Mediascape that come with Xperia X10?
How?
What would you install?
Would like like to change the OS or just version of your Android? Do you want to remove the components or the whole OS?
Nimche said:
Would like like to change the OS or just version of your Android? Do you want to remove the components or the whole OS?
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I don't like SE UI. Guess it consumes a lot of hardware resources.
I would like my Xperia X10 to run the system the HTC Desire runs, for instance.
I would like to change the whole thing.
Is it possible? How?
What OS would you install then?
Answer to all them questions
No it's not possible. You can change to a diffrent home menu. Try adw launcher. But thats about it
What your asking for is possible.. but not until the bootloader has been cracked and someone has created custom ROM based on HTC Sense, but with all of the drivers etc for the X10 hardware..
But I have to ask.. why didn't you buy a HTC if you prefer their UI?
Oh.. and I don't think that your theory.. "Guess it consumes a lot of hardware resources." is valid.. but just to be sure - which resources are you talking about?? Battery? Memory? Processor bandwidth?
u guys dont know how to answer that question cuz they didnt understand that but i do but i dont know how to do that.i also want to know that.but i know one thing u can update the original software by going to SE repair center.but u have to pay for it.in my country i have to pay $50
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u guys dont know how to answer that question cuz they didnt understand that but i do but i dont know how to do that.i also want to know that.but i know one thing u can update the original software by going to SE repair center.but u have to pay for it.in my country i have to pay $50
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What? That makes no sence.
telmoabff said:
Is there a way to COMPLETELY replace the android and UI and Timescape and Mediascape that come with Xperia X10?
How?
What would you install?
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Why would you buy the X10 to begin with...? There's dozens of phones that come with stock Android.
To answer your (weird) question: No. Not until the bootloader is cracked and the devs make a new ROM.
I'm utterly confused by you.
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Why would you buy the X10 to begin with...? There's dozens of phones that come with stock Android.
To answer your (weird) question: No. Not until the bootloader is cracked and the devs make a new ROM.
I'm utterly confused by you.
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In his defense: Timescape looks pretty good and it even works well enough for demo purposes. It's when you really start using the phone it becomes useless so it's an easy mistake to make.
But yeah, I'm confused too.
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What your asking for is possible.. but not until the bootloader has been cracked and someone has created custom ROM based on HTC Sense, but with all of the drivers etc for the X10 hardware..
But I have to ask.. why didn't you buy a HTC if you prefer their UI?
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Oh, well.. Let's wait foi it then.
In Brazil, HTC are rare and I couldn't find any shops or carriers that sell them. On the contrary, Sony Ericsson is popular and has lots shops and technical assistance in case I need.
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Oh.. and I don't think that your theory.. "Guess it consumes a lot of hardware resources." is valid.. but just to be sure - which resources are you talking about?? Battery? Memory? Processor bandwidth?
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Especially battery and memory. But could I be wrong?
On the aesthetics side, I don't like the low customisation level that SE UI offers...
lildic said:
u guys dont know how to answer that question cuz they didnt understand that but i do but i dont know how to do that.i also want to know that.but i know one thing u can update the original software by going to SE repair center.but u have to pay for it.in my country i have to pay $50
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Listen... I'm not talking about updating. I'm talking about replacing completely. So that my SE Xperia X10 would look and behave just like an HTC.
You can find anything on Ebay, remember that...
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Why would you buy the X10 to begin with...? There's dozens of phones that come with stock Android.
To answer your (weird) question: No. Not until the bootloader is cracked and the devs make a new ROM.
I'm utterly confused by you.
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Look at posts #11 and #12.
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In his defense: Timescape looks pretty good and it even works well enough for demo purposes. It's when you really start using the phone it becomes useless so it's an easy mistake to make.
But yeah, I'm confused too.
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I'm getting a bit confused myself. But you can look at posts #11 and #12.
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You can find anything on Ebay, remember that...
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I know it. But when it comes to a fairly expensive piece of equipment I would like to buy one from a brand which offers technical assistance in my country.
It will, but we still have to wait till they crack the boatloader and make SE hardware compatible with the 2.2 Froyo.
2.1 is coming this month sooo
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Please use your update button, would be nice if you post all your comments etc in one post
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I know it. But when it comes to a fairly expensive piece of equipment I would like to buy one from a brand which offers technical assistance in my country.
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You do realize that by replacing the OS on your phone, you lose that technical support, right?
Also, the amount of customization on the X10 is equal to any HTC phone. The beauty of Android means you can change things to look like you want them too. Just look at any theme thread. People have changed the notification bar, the font, the menu colors, and system icons. Has nothing to do with what phone they are using.
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You do realize that by replacing the OS on your phone, you lose that technical support, right?
Also, the amount of customization on the X10 is equal to any HTC phone. The beauty of Android means you can change things to look like you want them too. Just look at any theme thread. People have changed the notification bar, the font, the menu colors, and system icons. Has nothing to do with what phone they are using.
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I'll take it in consideration.
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Does anyone know if the crappy camera on O2 Mini (magician) can be upgraded/changed to a nokia camera or any other make camera that is better than the standard ones?
Yes - by getting a Nokia phone instead. All HTC devices have a crap camera, a no amount of firmware upgrade will help. Nor can you change the hardware. So either undderstand that this device has a mediocre camera - or get anothe model of phone with a better camera.
skagen said:
Yes - by getting a Nokia phone instead.
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How did you think of this?! you're so clever!
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All HTC devices have a crap camera, a no amount of firmware upgrade will help.
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I think I know this.. thats why im asking about the HW upgrade.
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Nor can you change the hardware.
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You might be able to.. someone who has access to lots spare parts of mobile phones may want to answer this... maybe not now but in the near future..
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So either undderstand that this device has a mediocre camera - or get anothe model of phone with a better camera.
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I understand.. but Im not getting another phone.. also theres nothing wrong with hoping..
The reason, I guess, that the guy was so hostile was because questions like this are ALWAYS asked on phone forums.
For instance, I used to have a SL45, and the questions that were asked over and over again were: "Can you upgrade the SL45 to colour screen, more memory, symbian operating system, polyphonic speaker".
The answer is always: maybe...if you understand how to completely change the insides of the phone...because it'll require more than just a quick swap-over to upgrade the camera. And, in any case, the average person probably doesn't have the knowledge to do it...and the ones that do probably think it's not worth their time.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/19/microsoft-set-to-unveil-mobileme-competitor-next-month
ignore the headline and read further down...
fards said:
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/19/microsoft-set-to-unveil-mobileme-competitor-next-month
ignore the headline and read further down...
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But is it going to be ported for XPERIA too? I don't know I am completely disappointed by SE's software/firmware department. As soon as they sell the device to you then they "don't know you anymore".
im OK with the SE service. its a WinMo device. so basicly thats like a Windows PC. install, deliver and see what the user make out of it.
it can be (soft)modded to death and leaves u pretty much possibilities. but basicly, if u dont want to "hack" ur phone, the device is utter crap
for the 6.5 update, shouldnt be much of a problem. either SE releases it, or we just rip it off from other devices like we allready do. Most of our new ROMs are from the Blackstone allready.
codenamed SkyBox, SkyLine and SkyMarket.
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and after that: SKYNET
itje said:
and after that: SKYNET
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Nice one Anyway, I do fear that...
LOL! SkyLine? i bet they were playing games when they come up with the names...
Hey guys and chiefs.
has anyone of you planned to make a Sony-Ericsson Xperia X8 ROM for HTC Hero?
that would be great because Hardware is very similar (only about 10% slower CPU and a bit less RAM) and my girlfriend is using my old hero. I have the X10 and i love timescape and mediascape but the X8 version is much faster and more cute
would be cool if anyone could port the X8 software when its released
Thanx for replies
Greetz
Blacky
that would be veeeeeeeery nice
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that would be veeeeeeeery nice
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that would be veeeeeeeery nice +1 =D
X10 (and X8 even much more) are very not popular devices, so i think nobody will try to port ROMs from that devices.
One of reasons is eg. no support for multitouch... And if we have genuine 2.1, what can be better in port... ?
Rather somebody could try to run X10/X8 apk's on hero... I think it could be possible, but need support from users of that devices...
So if you're owner of X10/X8, publish here apk's of apps that you'd like to see on hero, if that apks will don't work from scratch, maybe one of our best devs (eg. somebody from TeamVillain or Feeyo, or sbd else) will try to modify that apk's...
honestly why would you want sonys rom?
if you have ever used an x10 then you know anything built by sony has been nothing but garbage...
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honestly why would you want sonys rom?
if you have ever used an x10 then you know anything built by sony has been nothing but garbage...
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totally crap!
i own an X10 with new R2B firmware and its a great device..... i have also an Nexus one and tried an HTC desire and i would never change to one of these devices for daily use......
and what are you talking about bad selled phone??? in japan it is the best selled phone of all the time by Docomo after iPhone.... in europe they sell it very much!!!
and don't compare it if you have only seen the release firmware..... if you would compare this then the hero would be one of the worst android phone ever...... slow like hell!!!!
if you can't believe me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqqeAFONSbw
and btw..... the X8 is not yet on the market so don't talk about bad selled device.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aknf9PhLW8A
Go die
Xperia sucks more balls than Mr.Bucket
The hero on the other hand is a masterpiece of art
Rather than discussing about which phone is better (which is the hero) lets talk about the Possibility of a X8 rom for the hero
Mikeytjee said:
Rather than discussing about which phone is better (which is the hero) lets talk about the Possibility of a X8 rom for the hero
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THANX
lets go back to topic
because i don't seem to be the only one who would like X8 IU on Hero
the_black_dragon said:
THANX
lets go back to topic
because i don't seem to be the only one who would like X8 IU on Hero
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Yeah would love to see it aswell!
Is there an X8 dump available?
someone said they were gonna do this befor, but nothing happened.
ive got the dimp/apk's for it if anyone needs them, ive alreadyy made a really small theme of it on my hero but idd love the wholee rom
mojtaba.alhoseine said:
someone said they were gonna do this befor, but nothing happened.
ive got the dimp/apk's for it if anyone needs them, ive alreadyy made a really small theme of it on my hero but idd love the wholee rom
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Send me the dump, including boot.img.
Can I please have the dump too? Thanks.
http://www.mediafire.com/?lnzyge2yydy
this is all i have, i dont know if anythings missing or not because i havent been in it for months.
but i found it on the x10 section on xda, so if you ask them they probably wouldnt mind giving you one
Thats an X10 dump..
mojtaba.alhoseine said:
someone said they were gonna do this befor, but nothing happened.
ive got the dimp/apk's for it if anyone needs them, ive alreadyy made a really small theme of it on my hero but idd love the wholee rom
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could you upload that theme please?
I don't think that we should port the whole ROM,only the UI.Those blue menus,Timescape,Mediascape and generally all of Sony's stuff that can't be found somewhere else.But I think the ROM should be based on one of Hero's 2.1 ROMs.
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I don't think that we should port the whole ROM,only the UI.Those blue menus,Timescape,Mediascape and generally all of Sony's stuff that can't be found somewhere else.But I think the ROM should be based on one of Hero's 2.1 ROMs.
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I think that would be impossible because of the framework.
the_black_dragon said:
totally crap!
i own an X10 with new R2B firmware and its a great device..... i have also an Nexus one and tried an HTC desire and i would never change to one of these devices for daily use......
and what are you talking about bad selled phone??? in japan it is the best selled phone of all the time by Docomo after iPhone.... in europe they sell it very much!!!
and don't compare it if you have only seen the release firmware..... if you would compare this then the hero would be one of the worst android phone ever...... slow like hell!!!!
if you can't believe me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqqeAFONSbw
and btw..... the X8 is not yet on the market so don't talk about bad selled device.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aknf9PhLW8A
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The whole rom itself is garbage - mediascape timescape everything sony has modified is garbage - even the theme is
I returned my x10 and got an acer liquid with 2.1 - rooted and installed modified by me rom and the performance on this (with the same cpu at lower clock) is that I have 2x the performance in benchmarks than the x10 with the same hardware - so whatever sony has done slowed that chip down quite a bit - I would not trust anything from them after such a botched release - this **** is worse than what I run on my magic - literally was using my magic again after 1 day because 2.1 cyanogen is SO much better than anything sony can cook up... its pretty sad actually - now Im happy with the acer liquid until I get the Galaxy S
Following on from THIS thread which raises a valid point imo...
The Galaxy Spica (also known as the i5700) has been blessed with multitouch support in some homebrew drivers that are making their way into homebrew kernels for homebrew ROMs, despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time. Really drives home the point that "support" can refer both to the hardware's capability and the manufacturer's willingness to maximize it, doesn't it?
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-mobile.engadget.com
...MT may just be possible after all.
It means nothing.
IBTL.
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It means nothing.
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Or could mean it is possible, but will take a developer to realise it.
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
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Who knows now, but this news opens up to the possibility that it just might work...
despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time.
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As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
This is just another pointless thread, When we crack the boot loader and can put on Custom Roms we will find out if its a yes or a no, till then we can all debade the meanings of life and all the other types to topics that are there to waste time.
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This is just another pointless thread
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It might be, in your opinion, the point of the thread is to highlight that another handset of which it's maker said MT wasn't available now actually is thanks to a developer, so there just might be a possibility that other handsets sold with no MT support might not necessarily be because of a hardware issue.
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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they have to say something, if it supports, SE wont launch drivers for it so soon... Without know the model of the panel, no way to know.
tigger69 said:
As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
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I just love how you refer to it everytime without fail, as crapple.
I think the best way is asking a SE dev if x10 supports MT
Maybe SE will enable it on 2.1 if the hardware supports it....
Sent from my rooted 026 x10i using XDA App
Im closing this because it could have easily been put into the other multitouch debate threads
I really respect the efforts of developers to port all roms to our x8, but see sony is a Japanese company they know what x8 can hold and what it can't , so they stopped updating it after 2.1.a...
I've tried 2 roms myself
1. GingerDX 0.8 and 0.9
2. FroyoBread 0.20
and after 1 day switched back to stock rom using xrecovery, the reason was performance was like I was playing Assassin's creed brother hood on fx5500 overclocked..
i'm not *****ing about something, i'm just sharing my opinion, you may not agree with me but in my experience stock rom is so far best for x8.
maybe in future gingerDX will get better, but right now it's very slow in performance it's like when You installed few applications , it starts to lag... common, what is phone for? to call someone in emergency, what if you're touching the Dialer Icon on your screen 5 times and it opens after 10 Seconds and when you touch the dial button it takes more 5-6 seconds to dial..
sorry if I hurt someone..
Erhm, mine is doing alright, with GingerDX.
Then again, i havent tried a single game on this phone.
I'm also no offense, Stock ROM is on 2.1, Custom's are on 2.2/2.3. Which means we have more useful features, for e.g: App2SD. Also, our devs makes our CPU runs smoother, you can see it on benchmark, it's over 3000 without OC!
If you think just some lag on dialer which makes you feel Custom ROM is not good as Stock ROM, just use Stock ROM.
yah i'm using stock rom now and sticking to it for a long time now, the only featured I liked in custom rom was text to speech in sms, is it possible in stock ? can't find it anywhere...
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but see sony is a Japanese company they know what x8 can hold and what it can't , so they stopped updating it after 2.1.a...
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LOL! Do they? Or are they trying to make costumers buy their new phones?
And yes you are *****ing, saying that the devs work is worthless because it makes the phone slow..
YES I'M MAD
Well, I really do respect your opinion, but see, I know there are several ROM`s here and there, some of them functional, while others are kinda beta stage, there is no offense in saying what you think as long as you say it with respect, which is just what you did, but guess what?, I am using miniCM 7 2.0.5a in a daily basis, for some weeks now, and I don`t have any kind of trouble at all, everything works fine for me, of course stock ROM may be the most stable, but also is very limited in some areas, ie: there are some apps which need 2.2 and up to run, I have USB tethering and WIFI hotspot functionality, automatic market updates, enhanced copy-paste and a (not so) few extras.
All in all, what really matters is to enjoy your phone, we do with our rooted ones, we really enjoy playing, searching, experimenting, discovering, we are free just as linux is.
Nikkopt said:
LOL! Do they? Or are they trying to make costumers buy their new phones?
And yes you are *****ing, saying that the devs work is worthless because it makes the phone slow..
YES I'M MAD
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you're just moaning, I never said anything bad about developers, so just use custom and let me use stock...
I didn't join this forum to spam, but to share opinions, as everyone does...
a noob huh, pretty much offensive language, okay it's no use talking here I guess..
if you had a company like SONY you would be doing the same, why don't u buy Xperia Ray which is even water proof, if you love features ? don't have money ? then buy Nokia 3310
No offense, but as I see you don't need Android phone then. It's more than just a phone, and beacuse of this, it is slower in some aspects than a normal simple mobile. Keep in mind that all OS on phones are slower than any non-OS phone (like old SEs, W300, K810...etc).
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I really respect the efforts of developers to port all roms to our x8, but see sony is a Japanese company they know what x8 can hold and what it can't , so they stopped updating it after 2.1.a...
I've tried 2 roms myself
1. GingerDX 0.8 and 0.9
2. FroyoBread 0.20
and after 1 day switched back to stock rom using xrecovery, the reason was performance was like I was playing Assassin's creed brother hood on fx5500 overclocked..
i'm not *****ing about something, i'm just sharing my opinion, you may not agree with me but in my experience stock rom is so far best for x8.
maybe in future gingerDX will get better, but right now it's very slow in performance it's like when You installed few applications , it starts to lag... common, what is phone for? to call someone in emergency, what if you're touching the Dialer Icon on your screen 5 times and it opens after 10 Seconds and when you touch the dial button it takes more 5-6 seconds to dial..
sorry if I hurt someone..
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I have tried every rom on this Dev site and in my opinion they're a million times better than the Sony Erricson rom. i respect your opinion but come on, the stock rom crashed all the time on my X8, added a contact had to restart, switching to custom roms was my best decision with this gone, i'm using GingerDX.v008 and had no trouble with any of the GingerDX roms
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LOL! Do they? Or are they trying to make costumers buy their new phones?
And yes you are *****ing, saying that the devs work is worthless because it makes the phone slow..
YES I'M MAD
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SE want us to buy neo/play/arc these high-level's phone. But they makes us not to buy their phone anymore by not upgrading X8.
If Sony thought like that, wouldnt it be better for them to upgrade gingerbread, so what we think great se supports any phone and since x8 is so good, then other se phone must be better so they would maintain a loyal customer base
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Hey man, you aren't forum moderator. Just stfu ok?
orangzeb said:
you're just moaning, I never said anything bad about developers, so just use custom and let me use stock...
I didn't join this forum to spam, but to share opinions, as everyone does...
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I respect your opinion, i just don't accept it.. You didn't say directly that their work is worthless but in your opinion why should people use or prefer a ROM that just makes the phone slower and laggy? Why should people prefer that, right?
That's about the same thing as saying that it's not worthy to use a custom ROM.
Tyanno, you really need an anger therapy.. Leave your house a bit, go watch the trees and the birds
Aiduharan said:
If Sony thought like that, wouldnt it be better for them to upgrade gingerbread, so what we think great se supports any phone and since x8 is so good, then other se phone must be better so they would maintain a loyal customer base
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Yes, but now they're not upgrading our phone or unlock bootloader either.
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Tyanno, you really need an anger therapy.. Leave your house a bit, go watch the trees and the birds
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lol, i dont
its just unfair to complain devs and their roms in a 'nice' way
i wonder what makes the thread creator visit these forums regularly?
Aiduharan said:
If Sony thought like that, wouldnt it be better for them to upgrade gingerbread, so what we think great se supports any phone and since x8 is so good, then other se phone must be better so they would maintain a loyal customer base
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Exactly , this is where I agree with you... but money talks u know.. so maybe they don't care, this is real world... maybe I install too much applications to slow down custom roms..
peace..
Tyanno said:
lol, i dont
its just unfair to complain devs and their roms in a 'nice' way
i wonder what makes the thread creator visit these forums regularly?
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And i wonder why did you just registered this month
Tyanno said:
lol, i dont
its just unfair to complain devs and their roms in a 'nice' way
i wonder what makes the thread creator visit these forums regularly?
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I visit this forum co'z I'm a human not a robot, I need help with my new x8, I never used android before, I had a w910,w800,w810,j300
and know what I'd bought those phones 3 times each..
if this thread was that bad, who gave it a rating of 1 star in just 10 minutes ?