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UPDATE *****DarkStone's (HTC Desire base rom) v5 (21-July-2010)*****

Ok everyone so I thought I'd share this with you. I have been messing with this version of Android for quite some time. I find myself comparing all the versions of android to this version. Well heres my story I had the latest version of ShubCraft (1.4d) and didnt like the battery suckage...even with the new zImage from netripper.. So bored at work I decided to try the desire rom v5 with the new zImage and the startup.text from shubcraft's 1.4d. And WOW Let me tell you all, its so awesome I decided to share my info for all who decides to enjoy. Heres the kicker, it says its a Sence Rom but I dont run it with Sence. I use Launcher Pro. So if you want an awesome rom comparable to all the other with BETTER battery usage, then try this out and give props to DarkStone and all the other devs too...
Here is the link for Darkstone's Desire V5:
http://gamesquare.co.uk/desire.html
If you dont have the lastest zImage then go here:
http://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/?C=M;O=D\
Also I will attach the startup.txt for those not currently running shubcraft 1.4d but it will have to be later tonight as my work comp is being dumb and not letting me transfer the text.. stupid thinclients!!!
Now in order to not have sence, when you get this version up and running then use Linda File Manager and nav to system\app and delete rosie.apk and reboot.
Muy Importante!!!! Make sure you have some sort of launcher in either your androidapps folder or in the data\app folder. When I changed roms I didnt delete my androidapps folder that had com.fede.launcher.apk (launcher pro) this is important to make sure its there....and all should be good. Please feel free to try this and post back your results. I will try to post some screen shots but you will have to wait till I get to my home PC. Also this current set up is the brightest/clearest, fastest data, fastest responding. It's just dam beautiful. Please feel free to post any issues and we can get this sorted out for you. PS I havent tried BT or GPS yet but there have been many updates with the lastest modules on netrippers server so if they dont work then you can just replace them by using ADB or SUFB with the system & data mounted as R/W...
Please tell us what you think. I know I have found a winning combination, for me and my daily, monthly, yearly driver, of all the different versions of Android.... but what do you think??
Update:
I have attached the startup.txt for easier access...

move on to mattc's 1.6b and its beats the crap out of DS's desire v5. Trust me.

o thx thx

will have to check this out

move on to mattc's 1.6b and its beats the crap out of DS's desire v5. Trust me.
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I doubt it this set up has no data issues such as I have read for mattc's 1.6b
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Tmous HD2
Android: DarkStone Desire V5
WM: Energy's latest
HSPL 2 Class 6 8gb
Radio: 2.10.50
Sent via Android HD2

I'm trying this build out but How do you replace the system files with the latest git updates to get the gps, bt working? I'm using windows 7 btw so would you tell me how to do so?
thanks for the idea..

Anyone heard from DarkStone in a while? I've just been using his rls, but havent seen him around lately so I might try this or mattc 1.6

worth a try
I will try, since I had the same impression the Desire built is the one handling better the 3g/wifi.
shubcraft has the best look and feel, but so far the best ROM is the mattc 1.6b
regards

I'm trying this build out but How do you replace the system files with the latest git updates to get the gps, bt working? I'm using windows 7 btw so would you tell me how to do so?
thanks for the idea..
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Yea no worries.. I liked the shubcraft build cuz of cyanogen but then I started messing with this set up and I love it... best response to everything... so I have been just having fun with this build..Download Droid explorer and it will let you transfer the files.. just make sure you mount the system as r/w using adb.... I have used super user file browse (sufb) and that let's you mount the system and data as r/w... but from either just copy/push them into the same place as shubcraft has listed System/lib/modules... and them of course reboot..
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Android: DarkStone Desire V5
WM: Energy's latest
HSPL 2 Class 6 8gb
Radio: 2.10.50
Sent via Android HD2

That's sounds like an awesome combo. I've tried pm'ing darkstone to tell him to update ver5 for a while. I always thought in my opinion ver5 was always the Godfather of these builds. Being one of the first ones out, it was more responsive than most of the builds today, and look how long ago that was compared to all the new builds and upgrades of now. Will definitely try this. Like they say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" So tuning up something that was already great should make for one hell of a build.

Isn't v5 android 2.1? That would account for the improved battery life, 2.2 requires more processor power, but it's also 450% faster ( from some test reports) basically it won't work well with sense that's why its better with launcher pro. Also you don't get the advances in 2.2 ( maybe you don't need them anyhow).Its worth doing a quadrant benchmark to test properly if its really faster. Also maybe worth comparing with something like Shu8i v 1.2, pretty similar to what your using but I would bet It would be much faster also.

Isn't v5 android 2.1? That would account for the improved battery life, 2.2 requires more processor power, but it's also 450% faster ( from some test reports) basically it won't work well with sense that's why its better with launcher pro. Also you don't get the advances in 2.2 ( maybe you don't need them anyhow).Its worth doing a quadrant benchmark to test properly if its really faster. Also maybe worth comparing with something like Shu8i v 1.2, pretty similar to what your using but I would bet It would be much faster also.
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Yes sir 2.1 but its still kicks a$$... I left my phone on over night not charging for about 8 hours, and my battery went from 63 to 58! Im stoked! And I did benchmark it and my score was just under the nexus 2.2 around 1200.. ill see if I can up a pic... ill see what I can do from my work comp... as my home pc's hard drive kicked the bucket yesterday... so right now I have no way to upload to xda... but ill figure it out. This really an awesome setup! Darkstone if you read this take this setup and run with it señor... you won't regret it.. market is blazing fast.. this feels the like a native Rom for me.... also I have auto rotate on and that is working wonderfully for me too... mind u I have that class 6 card... try it and run the benchmark.. u will see for yourself...
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Tmous HD2
Android: DarkStone Desire V5
WM: Energy's latest
HSPL 2 Class 6 8gb
Radio: 2.10.50
Sent via Android HD2

That's sounds like an awesome combo. I've tried pm'ing darkstone to tell him to update ver5 for a while. I always thought in my opinion ver5 was always the Godfather of these builds. Being one of the first ones out, it was more responsive than most of the builds today, and look how long ago that was compared to all the new builds and upgrades of now. Will definitely try this. Like they say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" So tuning up something that was already great should make for one hell of a build.
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I agree totally! That's why I have always compared this build to other builds in terms of kickassness... Please post back your results to share with the skeptics and nay sayers..
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Tmous HD2
Android: DarkStone Desire V5
WM: Energy's latest
HSPL 2 Class 6 8gb
Radio: 2.10.50
Sent via Android HD2

da-pharoah said:
I agree totally! That's why I have always compared this build to other builds in terms of kickassness... Please post back your results to share with the skeptics and nay sayers..
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Tmous HD2
Android: DarkStone Desire V5
WM: Energy's latest
HSPL 2 Class 6 8gb
Radio: 2.10.50
Sent via Android HD2
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Well Im pretty open minded so I tested your theory with michyprimas, latest zimage and stock zimage from 23rd August sense disabled. Theres no root access to enable setcpu so the processor was running at 768, still running at 998 wont make that huge a difference.
Result your device: 525, exactly what I expected for a 2.1 based ROM.
It is buried by newer Roms in benchmarks, but it runs fast and smooth and I see why you like it.

Wouldn't that original root.fs file work? The file is on linux and android read post 3 thread.

LondonTownGuy said:
Well Im pretty open minded so I tested your theory with michyprimas, latest zimage and stock zimage from 23rd August sense disabled. Theres no root access to enable setcpu so the processor was running at 768, still running at 998 wont make that huge a difference.
Result your device: 525, exactly what I expected for a 2.1 based ROM.
It is buried by newer Roms in benchmarks, but it runs fast and smooth and I see why you like it.
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I dont know how you got 525 but for proof I have attached the quadrant score I just got five minutes ago.. And its not 525 my friend.. its beyond the nexus 2.2 results... and this is a rooted rom.... all my super user access request programs work just fine no issues at all...

Hey Pharoah, how did you get over 1300? Im getting 702 tops. I got set cpu to the max. Are there any special tweaks your using to get that high. I love this combination, and if there is any way i can tweak mine to get up that high, I would appreciate if you shared how you got that high.

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Hey Pharoah, how did you get over 1300? Im getting 702 tops. I got set cpu to the max. Are there any special tweaks your using to get that high. I love this combination, and if there is any way i can tweak mine to get up that high, I would appreciate if you shared how you got that high.
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I havent done anything different that I have learned from the threads of darkstone and shubcraft..I use autokiller with an optimum preset, advance task killer with the auto kill frequency set to kill apps when the screen is turned off and the 4 profiles setting in setcpu to manage the speed of my processor for battery consumption. Nothing else special added to help the speed. Just really the startup.txt and netripper zimage are the only 'major' changes I have made... I restarted my phone and ran quadrant again and got a score just under the nexus 2.2 of 1307 with like 20+ apps running in the backround. Maybe becuase I have a class 6 card??? who knows.. are you running the setup like mine (senseless) or are you running it with sense??
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It cant be the class of card. My friend who has the exact same setup just a class 2 card just scored a 1296... so maybe the setcpu, autokiller, and advance task killer tweeks help.... try and report back..

Yea Im running a class4. But I know that is not the problem. I could get a 1780 on Shubcraft 1.4 My set up is pretty much the same is yours. Im running it with launcher. I did replace the rootfs.img with the one that was on the beginning of the Linux and Android Read Post3 thread. Because as I remember that build isnt rooted. Did you replace your rootfs.img? Or did you use the original one? That might be why mine is running so slow.

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Yea Im running a class4. But I know that is not the problem. I could get a 1780 on Shubcraft 1.4 My set up is pretty much the same is yours. Im running it with launcher. I did replace the rootfs.img with the one that was on the beginning of the Linux and Android Read Post3 thread. Because as I remember that build isnt rooted. Did you replace your rootfs.img? Or did you use the original one? That might be why mine is running so slow.
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That I can remember I didnt switch the rootfs, its the original. But really not rooted huh?? I guess I missed that posting... I have not had any issues running root-required apps. Try it maybe that is the difference.. Im going to see if I can up my rootfs but idk if I can manage via my phone since I cant connect usb to this work computer... usb ports on work comp disabled... but ill try..

Best Cyanogen Mod Based (non-sense) Build?

I don't much care for Sense, as do allot of users, which is I'm sure why there's an increase in CM based android builds.
I haven't tested all of these builds yet, but I'm downloading them now. I know the original ShubCRAFT works great, but hasn't been updated in a while, leading to Warrenb to re-cook it to add the new kernel with Wifi Tethering support, amongst other things.
I've been using for about a week now, the HyperDroid build, which has been amazing, though I've gotten occasional touchscreen freezes, causing reboots. But I can confirm data to work amazingly, in addition to the wifi tethering.
ShubCRAFT 1.5 (RMNET/PPP)
Warrenb's Re-Build of ShubCRAFT 1.5 version 1.2a (RMNET/PPP) - Wifi Tethering
Bansters 1.2a - Wifi tethering
HyperDroid 1.1 - Wifi Tethering
Post your experience with the various non-sense based CM builds, along with any builds I might have missed.
There is allot of general discussion on each individual build, but as each build changes so much from day to day, especially with kernel changes, it's hard to determine which is currently the best and most stable build for HD2. I personally prefer the CM builds as they have the additional settings (long press app number, and mostly the status bar tweaks with the battery/dBm indicator without having to install any additional apps or have them in the background running, taking up bar space with additional batteries).

shubCRAFT is my favorite. I've tried the others, but it feels most like stock CM6 to me and everything just works. I do wish there were other builds based on the nightly CM builds... But oh well!
Dan

For whatever reason I stick with shubcraft. Maybe its a loyalty thing but I feel like Im missing something whenever I am on a different rom. Also aslong as I dont tinker everything works out rather well I actually am starting to feel I have a real android phone and not just a port.

hazard99 said:
For whatever reason I stick with shubcraft. Maybe its a loyalty thing but I feel like Im missing something whenever I am on a different rom. Also aslong as I dont tinker everything works out rather well I actually am starting to feel I have a real android phone and not just a port.
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I agree, it feels just like my nexus one.

I just downloaded Bangsters.....
USB Mass Storage/Tethering/Hotspot!!
I'd say it has the most features to date of all the builds.
But I wonder if the USB Mass Storage is working correctly 100%?
I know in other builds it's been disabled because of data corruption....
Did they just turn it back on or was that issue resolved?

Bangsters the best looking but shubcraft has the killer battery life using Energy ROM so far.
REVISION: Hyperdroid is becoming my personal favorite!

I'm using bangsters and gotta say I'm never going back to sense.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Shubcraft for sure.
I've tried them all, and Shubcraft is the most stable one out there (at least for me!) . Next to that, i took my phone from the charger yesterday morning and i still have 51 percent left (with SetCPU).
That is with internet, messaging, theming and email every now and then

Definitely Shubcraft, many congrats and thanks to its developers.

Htcclays SuperHD2

I like shubCRAFT but then i recently switched to Hyperdroid, and so far? I LOVE IT!

ive tried them all and for me me, its definitely hyperdroid!
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Well as far as builds go htcclays 1.2 is flawless no sod slow wake ups and everything works
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Htcclay all the way... no freezes, great battery life. Its my day to day is now.
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Haven't tried the others, but hyperdroid v1.1 was good (no crashes, and a very few problems) and now the v 1.2 is even better, high frame rate and very fluid (1845 in quadrant)

I voted shubcraft because I've been using it daily since 1.4.
I just last night tried out hyperdroid and bangsters. Both of the used the really high res look which I like. I ended up liking bangsters more because launcherpro and adw were built in. Performance seemed about equal.
Its hard to give a preference if you just try them out like I did. They need long term use for a better evaluation. I wish one build was clearly superior to make this decision easier.
Stuck with bangsters as shubcraft hasn't been updated in a while.

mccm. good loking.

Switched to JDMS since shubcraft & hyperdroid are discontinued, and it's the best I've found thus far.

Been using Bangsters 1.5 and have been happy with it, even have it down to 0-3ma during standby. He's been slow to update lately though, as he had some IRL things goin on.
I was going to try Shubcraft, but then noticed it got discontinued, and didn't notice WarrenB's version, so I'll give that a try instead.
I did have some issues when transfering a large file (+500mb) to the card while the phone was running, and the system just didn't want to work right until I deleted that file, so not sure if the usb mass storage is working 100%. Perhaps there's a file size limit for "working".

HyperDroid is the first ROM that works stable, and I can actually use for more than a few hours.
Thus my vote is for HyperDroid.

Quick guide to the ROMS + bases

People want summaries of the Android builds, so here we go:
1. For the most stable builds, pick the ones which are simpy Froyo 2.2 based, or based on the cyanogen mod (CM6) without sense, and are usually based on builds for the Google Nexus.
2. Then you have froyo + sense. now there are different versions of sense out there and froyo. you have the 'supersonic' over the air update which made it 2.2.1 versus the original 2.2. FRG** and FRF** denote different versions of android core.
Following that you have all the ones which are (usually) based on 2.2.1 android....BUT...the magical sauce is in the sense build they use. Unlike WM with 2018 and 2016 etc for sense we now have a few variants as defined by the phone they run on:
2a) Desire
2b) Evo (sense build: 3.29.651.5)
2c) Desire HD roms (sense build: 1.24.405.1)
2d) Desire Z (1.22.405.1)
2e) Lexicon ()
Lexicon seems to be a quick sense build, BUT things like compass and gsensor and camera dont seem to work.
Desire Z seems to be visually nicer, almost as nippy, much newer....but the font sizes are not optimised for the HD2 - the PPI is too low and fonts bigger - i.e. you see less on the screen at the time. same gsensor, camera and compass issues as above.
Desire HD builds are the biggest resource hogs...but nevertheless remain fast if you have a taskkiller and are visually the most stunning. same gsensor and compass and camera issues as above. Having used this more extensively I can also confirm that I get data disconnects (which plague all recent builds), but the HTC reader does not work, and the HTC locations/latitude does not work fully. HTC hub etc works fine tho.
Evo - more stable and more fully featured than any of the above, but not quite as quick nor as pretty. also font scaling not as good as on Desire HD rom. Data disconnects still on this build. Has voice activiation/dialing with long send key.
Desire - the oldest set of builds - or was it HTC ACE/bravo??/ I can't quite remember. very stable, but not very quick. I think this came with voice dialing activated with long send key.
I am using the Desire HD based mdeejay ROM 24/7 now. seems very good. I don't like the gmail email app tho...fortunately I dont need the camera. I get no music stuttering. BT works perfectly (stereo+mono), as does GPS. Voice search/commands work when you launch the app, but it does not seem to be triggered by a long send...can't remember if voice command works triggered from BT headset.
It does use more battery than WM - I barely get two days solid use whereas I used to get a solid 3 on WM only. I have installed setcpu and run it quite aggressively with my own settings to really get the most out of the battery. Without setcpu mdeejay's desire HD build would often run at 1138Mhz constantly.....
Also remember that not only do the builds differ in terms of Android build, and sense build (if included), but often come with different kernels - such as by hastarin, michyprima and the more stock ones based on the zimage database maintained by the htc-linux team. The kernel will usually determine what works and what doesn't.
Hope this helps.

Setcpu settings r same for rach build. Or u use different
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I run it much more aggressively than set in most builds. I use the conservative and powersave clock governor settings and have it staged at different battery %ages and whether the screen is on or off to adjust the min and max cpu speeds.

Nice summary man, thanks!

@chris_ah1
AWESOME!! This post is much appreciated! I am sure that this is the information many users were looking for and hopefully are willing to join this project!!
again: GREAT JOB!

chris_ah1 said:
People want summaries of the Android builds, so here we go:
1. For the most stable builds, pick the ones which are simpy Froyo 2.2 based, or based on the cyanogen mod (CM6) without sense, and are usually based on builds for the Google Nexus.
2. Then you have froyo + sense. now there are different versions of sense out there and froyo. you have the 'supersonic' over the air update which made it 2.2.1 versus the original 2.2. FRG** and FRF** denote different versions of android core.
Following that you have all the ones which are (usually) based on 2.2.1 android....BUT...the magical sauce is in the sense build they use. Unlike WM with 2018 and 2016 etc for sense we now have a few variants as defined by the phone they run on:
2a) Desire
2b) Evo (sense build: 3.29.651.5)
2c) Desire HD roms (sense build: 1.24.405.1)
2d) Desire Z (1.22.405.1)
2e) Lexicon ()
Lexicon seems to be a quick sense build, BUT things like compass and gsensor and camera dont seem to work.
Desire Z seems to be visually nicer, almost as nippy, much newer....but the font sizes are not optimised for the HD2 - the PPI is too low and fonts bigger - i.e. you see less on the screen at the time. same gsensor, camera and compass issues as above.
Desire HD builds are the biggest resource hogs...but nevertheless remain fast if you have a taskkiller and are visually the most stunning. same gsensor and compass and camera issues as above. Having used this more extensively I can also confirm that I get data disconnects (which plague all recent builds), but the HTC reader does not work, and the HTC locations/latitude does not work fully. HTC hub etc works fine tho.
Evo - more stable and more fully featured than any of the above, but not quite as quick nor as pretty. also font scaling not as good as on Desire HD rom. Data disconnects still on this build. Has voice activiation/dialing with long send key.
Desire - the oldest set of builds - or was it HTC ACE/bravo??/ I can't quite remember. very stable, but not very quick. I think this came with voice dialing activated with long send key.
I am using the Desire HD based mdeejay ROM 24/7 now. seems very good. I don't like the gmail email app tho...fortunately I dont need the camera. I get no music stuttering. BT works perfectly (stereo+mono), as does GPS. Voice search/commands work when you launch the app, but it does not seem to be triggered by a long send...can't remember if voice command works triggered from BT headset.
It does use more battery than WM - I barely get two days solid use whereas I used to get a solid 3 on WM only. I have installed setcpu and run it quite aggressively.
Also remember that not only do the builds differ in terms of Android build, and sense build (if included), but often come with different kernels - such as by hastarin, michyprima and the more stock ones based on the zimage database maintained by the htc-linux team. The kernel will usually determine what works and what doesn't.
Hope this helps.
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Simply put: KERNEL is a model, different designer put different clothes on her, its still her.
We have two models, Nexus one base, and Evo base model

thanks for this summary!!! it is really helpfull info you provided here.
I will try mdeejay Desire HD build. Currently I have Darkstone Froyo Stone 3.1, but battery life is horrible for me. Even with Set Cpu, Task Killer and JuiceDefender I can't make a day... and I barely use my device during a day...

Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

jgunna405 said:
Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
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I'm not sure about yahoo mail, but everything else works on shubcraft

Thanks chris_ah1, nice breakdown of the builds. Simple and informative. Any volunteers to do the same for kernels? That'd be awesome!

anap40 said:
I'm not sure about yahoo mail, but everything else works on shubcraft
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Shubcraft? I'll check it out and report back. Thanks.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I want it to have Sense as well.

thanks a lot for this info!
Now this is clear, I hope the devs will kinda keep us informed about which version they're using
As I'm having serious battery issues (using setcpu and all) I'll try Froyo 2.2 or cyanogen mod.
Too bad there hasn't been an update to those builds lately

android.hd2roms.com !

jgunna405 said:
Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
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Take a look at the Core Droid build! Very nice build with good batterylife (out of the box), great stability, almost fully working and sexy looks. Tried various sense builds, but this one i really recommend at the moment.
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you rock!
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android.hd2roms.com !
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genius, thankyou! its so much easier to take in. love it. its absolutely fantastic!

Thank You
thank you very much this a very informative and useful post

Thank-you! I've been going through builds like I'm bar-hopping on a Saturday nite. This will definitely help with settling down.
I'm looking for a working camera, minimal or skip-free music, yahoo mail linkability, and Facebook contact linking. Everything else I can compromise.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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-what do you mean by yahoomail linkability? I'm curious cause I'm only using yahoomail app for android.
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tnx for this handy overview

Please stick this. It finally answered my question about what is the difference between desire, desire hd, desire z and other base of roms. I was prepared to post a topic when I stumbled upon this.
Great guide.

Rom:GingerTwiz3.1 ..one of the greats

I find my self keep coming back to this rom. I am not sure how many xda members had the honor of this great 2.2 rom. I have tryed many different roms. Does any one know of any Froyo roms that are just as fast and snappy? The rom must be able to handle 1.5 oc. ! Has any one else had the chance to use this rom, If so..what did u think of it?
Rom: GingerTwiz3.1 Kernel: 1.3ghz MODz Nightly #3 smartass/ scary

naturallight said:
I find my self keep coming back to this rom. I am not sure how many xda members had the honor of this great 2.2 rom. I have tryed many different roms. Does any one know of any Froyo roms that are just as fast and snappy? The rom must be able to handle 1.5 oc. ! Has any one else had the chance to use this rom, If so..what did u think of it?
Rom: GingerTwiz3.1 Kernel: 1.3ghz MODz Nightly #3 smartass/ scary
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Just about every froyo rom is snappy an it's not the rom that can't handle Oc it's phone some phones can do more than others
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And its the kernel that decides whether the phone can oc or not...
You want snappy? Go to cm7...thats godly fast
Sent from a cell tower to the XDA server to you.

I have personal issues with cm7. It don't like me
Rom: GingerTwiz3.1 Kernel: 1.3ghz MODz Nightly #3 smartass/ scary

naturallight said:
I find my self keep coming back to this rom. I am not sure how many xda members had the honor of this great 2.2 rom. I have tryed many different roms. Does any one know of any Froyo roms that are just as fast and snappy? The rom must be able to handle 1.5 oc. ! Has any one else had the chance to use this rom, If so..what did u think of it?
Rom: GingerTwiz3.1 Kernel: 1.3ghz MODz Nightly #3 smartass/ scary
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Team Toxic Presents "Toxic Crazy8" Froyo Gone Crazy on Ginger"
It has some features that will give you what you want like..
Tweak to make phone stop attempting signal location once strongest signal is found.
Build prop edit to make phone sleep in standby (decreasing battery drain)
More edits and tweaks to optimize speed and stability.
V6 Supercharge Option
You get scriptmanager app to apply whichever script from the v6 supercharge that you want.. the more aggressive, the less apps it keeps in memory, the less apps, the more snappy-- any running app gets as much ram as it might need so doesn't slow down. The tradeoff.. if you want to go to a previously running app, it won't continue where it left off like you might with stock memory profiles. NOTE: it doesn't work like an auto task killer, it decides how the OS allocated the ram.
Just flash the same kernel you are already using over that rom. The best part of it is, that rom does have exceptional battery life, so if you are going to overclock.. then that rom would be a good marriage for the combo of snappy performance and longevity.

Same as Naturallight here, CM just doesn't work on my phone.
I've tried every install method available and it just sits there twitching like it's having some sort of fit
None of the habitatc buttons work, they won't even light up, gps doesn't lock at all (it can't even see 1 satellite) 911 doesn't work at all.
I don't know what all the hubub is about but from where I'm sitting, CM is worse than going back to 1.1 stock
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Using ErwinP's CM-9 ROM, its fast with some issues

Hello all,
Today i installed the CM-9 ROM by ErwinP on my 1 year old Wildfire.
Its good with some issues:
1. Camera doesn't work.
2. gallery has a bug. The albums were visible when we tap and hold on the screen and drag to left or right. when we lift the finger the screen goes blank.
3. menu loading is slow every time.
4. screen lock is present but you have to select slide in the lock screen settings.
For any further issues, i'll update here, as I am new to this forum.
Some facts:
The ROM after install takes 151.8 MB of internal memory.
I have custom MTD partition of 160MB and 15MB cache. I'm getting 290 of internal memory but the system initially is taking 40 MB(I don't know why.)
So, usable is 250MB internal memory.

rajumack07 said:
Hello all,
Today i installed the CM-9 ROM by ErwinP on my 1 year old Wildfire.
Its good with some issues:
1. Camera doesn't work.
2. gallery has a bug. The albums were visible when we tap and hold on the screen and drag to left or right. when we lift the finger the screen goes blank.
3. menu loading is slow every time.
4. screen lock is present but you have to select slide in the lock screen settings.
For any further issues, i'll update here, as I am new to this forum.
Some facts:
The ROM after install takes 151.8 MB of internal memory.
I have custom MTD partition of 160MB and 15MB cache. I'm getting 290 of internal memory but the system initially is taking 40 MB(I don't know why.)
So, usable is 250MB internal memory.
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first two issues you pointed are already given issues. read op to check common issues present as well as replacement app particularly for gallery and some other stuff.
other than that i think i dont have any issues like the other things you mentioned.
try 210/25 custom mtd partitions...it worked for me

@pauch_19: thanks for the information. I will look into alternatives to the bugs. Also you can try my custom MTD settings if you want more internal memory. Can you help me in getting the Market app to work(or any alternative app).

rajumack07 said:
@pauch_19: thanks for the information. I will look into alternatives to the bugs. Also you can try my custom MTD settings if you want more internal memory. Can you help me in getting the Market app to work(or any alternative app).
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What's your problem with the market?
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I installed the market v3.4.4 backed up previously. When I open it, it shutdowns automatically. kindly, guide me.

rajumack07 said:
I installed the market v3.4.4 backed up previously. When I open it, it shutdowns automatically. kindly, guide me.
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Did you flash Google apps first? Or just install 3.4.4 apk?
You need to flash gapps I think, don't bother with 3.4.4 you should get an auto update to the new play one eventually.
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Scratch0805 said:
Did you flash Google apps first? Or just install 3.4.4 apk?
You need to flash gapps I think, don't bother with 3.4.4 you should get an auto update to the new play one eventually.
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Yeah, you'll need the entire gapps since the market also relies on some extra stuff.
(I had the same problem when I just installed the market .apk on my Elf.)
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that's probably the reason why you have more space on your internal memory because you forgot to flash gapps. incase you havent, flash gapps as what scratch and nejc suggested.. its also posted in op. its the latest gapps, about 52 mb in size so you will have to set your mtd partitions to default which is 250. im using the modified version which is just about 19 mb.
goodluck!

First of all thanks to all(Scratch0805,pauch_19 and nejc121) for your support in providing the information.
After getting the solution suggested by "Scratch0805". I again installed the ROM and along with the gapps at the same time. This time, I have taken the partition as 200 and 20. And after the boot, in terminal i found that system is using 186.4 MB. Still 13.6MB left.
Note: i installed the gapps with the size 51.88MB unmodified zip.
Now, everything works as it should have with camera as the exception.
One thing I want to know, what should be the CPU settings to follow for more than a day of battery life. Previously, i was using ON-DEMAND with 264-672MHz
and getting less than 22hrs of backup in CM7.

rajumack07 said:
First of all thanks to all(Scratch0805,pauch_19 and nejc121) for your support in providing the information.
After getting the solution suggested by "Scratch0805". I again installed the ROM and along with the gapps at the same time. This time, I have taken the partition as 200 and 20. And after the boot, in terminal i found that system is using 186.4 MB. Still 13.6MB left.
Note: i installed the gapps with the size 51.88MB unmodified zip.
Now, everything works as it should have with camera as the exception.
One thing I want to know, what should be the CPU settings to follow for more than a day of battery life. Previously, i was using ON-DEMAND with 264-672MHz
and getting less than 22hrs of backup in CM7.
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mine is 352/729 smartassv2. on minimal - regular use, mine last a day and a half..i really think it depends on phone usage.

@pauch_19 : So, it means you are not using any apps to control the cpu settings.
I also used the smartassv2 governor and i found that backup decreases as it was in on-demand.
But, the smoothness in using gets better in smartassv2. So, can you tell me which governor will be better in terms of battery life and speed or any post where its mentioned.

atm i dont have too many apps which is also i think one reason why my phone is alot smoother, responsive and gives me a very decent battery life. In performance - processor, my cpu frequency minimum is 352 and 729 max. i used this values even when i was on cm7 nightlies coz its much stable..havent tried it at 768 though cpu governor is smartass v2.

rajumack07 said:
@pauch_19 : So, it means you are not using any apps to control the cpu settings.
I also used the smartassv2 governor and i found that backup decreases as it was in on-demand.
But, the smoothness in using gets better in smartassv2. So, can you tell me which governor will be better in terms of battery life and speed or any post where its mentioned.
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I'm using the miui rom which is basically a modified version of cm9, I use setcpu just to set an underclock profile for when the screen goes off. My settings are on demand176/576 and powersave 176/352 as I've noticed that unless i'm straining the cpu by playing angry birds or watching a video with on demand my cpu tends to stay low doing normal things like making a phone call or checking xda but with smartassv2 it seems to jump high even when it doesn't really need to.
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@pauch_19 : As for your settings goes, it good for performance. And you are also getting good life out of it. Nice to know that. I also read a post earlier where members are saying CM7 is better than SplashMOD. If its true, kindly tell me If you know which CM7 nightlies version do i use and how to remove the apps(I once used CM7 # 256,I didn't like the camera UI but it was smooth though) I then, switched to SplashMOD 1.6.
@Scratch0805 : I like the CPU settings you were using. I will definitely try those when I'll install the SPlashMOD v2.0 downloaded yesterday. But, I haven't tried on 176 because i thought then I'll get delay in getting calls and also lag in the background process. If these are not the issues you are getting, then I will must use these, and I can say that I will get at least 35+hrs of backup. And how MIUI is as compared to CM9?
thanks again for the responses I'm getting.

Somewhere in themes and apps section is a thread for miui camera, its a flashable zip which will give you a much nicer camera ui than the cm7 one.
Miui is beautiful as a standalone Rom but gets even better if your prepared to put some effort in, it has the same bugs as cm9, but spend a few hours setting up workarounds and it runs like a dream, I only have 2 problems now 1 is the camera (nevermind tho, I have a digital cam anyway) 2 is if you like theming your phone miui is awesome for it, the only problem is it was designed for hdpi and gingerbread so all the top themes need modding to fit ldpi and ics.
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@Scratch0805 : I don't have any knowledge of modding. But I will definitely try MIUI ROM and can you tell me which CM7 version you are using, just asking if I may try that one anytime soon along with the miui camera.

rajumack07 said:
@pauch_19 : As for your settings goes, it good for performance. And you are also getting good life out of it. Nice to know that. I also read a post earlier where members are saying CM7 is better than SplashMOD. If its true, kindly tell me If you know which CM7 nightlies version do i use and how to remove the apps(I once used CM7 # 256,I didn't like the camera UI but it was smooth though) I then, switched to SplashMOD 1.6.
@Scratch0805 : I like the CPU settings you were using. I will definitely try those when I'll install the SPlashMOD v2.0 downloaded yesterday. But, I haven't tried on 176 because i thought then I'll get delay in getting calls and also lag in the background process. If these are not the issues you are getting, then I will must use these, and I can say that I will get at least 35+hrs of backup. And how MIUI is as compared to CM9?
thanks again for the responses I'm getting.
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Personally I haven't tried Splashmod so I really couldnt say CM7 is better. I only tried CM7 and Im really impressed at how Cyanogen turned it into a very nice and fast rom. Before trying erwin's CM9 I was on nightly 256 build 14 and everything is working well.

I will try that one also with the miui camera Scratch0805 suggested. If all goes well, at the end of the day I'll be using CM7.

The camera should be fine on any rom I think, splashmod is basically either cm7 or oxygen (can't remember which one its based on atm as the "dev" changes his mind more often than I change my wallpaper ) with some apps removed or substituted for another. Underneath though it will always be cm7 or oxygen.
I'm on miui v4 atm and loving it but I'd recommend till you get into the swing either cm7 nightly 256 or keep an eye on the cm7 thread and look for the unofficial builds which have been built by erwinp and cobje, they may have a few bugs though I doubt anything serious otherwise they wouldn't release it + we are still clinging on to some fairly talented people that will most likely suss out the bugs and let everyone know how to fix them in the thread.
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Well CM9 is really great, i love it, but sometimes my phone randomly reboot. Especially when i start phone.apk. Anybody with the same problem? I'm running on 352-710 MHz.
Also my GPS doesn't work.