Hi,
i have got a 1GB SanDisk Mini SD in my Wizard and i wanted to know how fast it is. i have done a benchmark with following tool:
http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/downloads/45/SpbBenchmark.e
Here are my results:
SanDisk 1GB:
Writing 1 MB file 3194.4
Reading 1 MB file 1112.6
Copying 1 MB file to storage card 1006.2
Copying 1 MB file from storage card 1042.9
Writing 100 of 10 KB files 39187.6
Reading 100 of 10 KB files 1286.8
Copying 100 of 10 KB files to storage card 36057.7
Copying 100 of 10 KB files from storage card 36231.4
Directory listing: 2000 files 378.5
I have done a comparison with other Memory Cards (SD) with other devices and have recognized that my card is not as fast as other SD Cards. Here is a link (unfortunately in german) where you can find a lot of results (i recommend to switch to the last page at once because these results are the new one):
[url]http://www.pocketnavigation.de/board/thread.php?threadid=6844&threadview=0&hilight=Extr ememory&hilightuser=0&page=1
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What i want to know: Is the SanDisk the slowest part in the system or is it the Wizard itself. To find out i need your help: I want you to do also a benchmark and post the results here. This will help us, to speed up the Wizard by buying an apropriate Mini SD Card to a reasonable price.
You need to install the tool (it is very easy) perform a test, post the results and unistall the tool again.
Thanx in advance.
Hi
I have bought a 120X fast 1 GB mini sd from ebay.
Here is my test results:
O2 Mini S with K-jam wwe rom
120x 1GB Mini SD
Writing 1 MB file 2386
Reading 1 MB file 67
Copying 1 MB file to storage card 820
Copying 1 MB file from storage card 1361
Writing 100 of 10 KB files 16215
Reading 100 of 10 KB files 250
Copying 100 of 10 KB files to storage card 11156
Copying 100 of 10 KB files from storage card 4682
Directory listing: 2000 files 357
Have you measured this in/with your QTEK?
i dont understand: if i compare your results with mine you can be lucky!! A very fast card compared to mine
topcaser said:
Have you measured this in/with your QTEK?
i dont understand: if i compare your results with mine you can be lucky!! A very fast card compared to mine
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Yes I have measured this in my o2 xda mini
but what i dont understand is how the result works is the lower numbers you get mean a faster card or the other way around
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wadialdoor said:
topcaser said:
Have you measured this in/with your QTEK?
i dont understand: if i compare your results with mine you can be lucky!! A very fast card compared to mine
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Yes I have measured this in my o2 xda mini
but what i dont understand is how the result works is the lower numbers you get mean a faster card or the other way around
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The measurement is done in ms. The lower the numbers the faster the card. It measures the time which lasts if a e.g. 1MB file is read from your storage card. The lower, the faster.
topcaser said:
wadialdoor said:
topcaser said:
Have you measured this in/with your QTEK?
i dont understand: if i compare your results with mine you can be lucky!! A very fast card compared to mine
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Yes I have measured this in my o2 xda mini
but what i dont understand is how the result works is the lower numbers you get mean a faster card or the other way around
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The measurement is done in ms. The lower the numbers the faster the card. It measures the time which lasts if a e.g. 1MB file is read from your storage card. The lower, the faster.
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Ok mate
Can you test your card speed in your pc using a card reader and the tool attached to this post choose KByte/Sec & post the result here
Unfortunatly not because i have no adapter to SD. I will get it in appr. one week.
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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How about making a shortcut of the programs to Windows/Start Menu/Programs ?
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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YES... its same problem here .......
cheers
indra9110
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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I hear about Universal that not work good with all memory
maybe it work good with another memory
in the other site i think they sell SanDisk for Athena
i'm not sure
tanX
victoradjei said:
How about making a shortcut of the programs to Windows/Start Menu/Programs ?
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yes i have try that, it works for the first time, after soft restart, all not working again.......such a waste for this miniSDHC, anyway, i have install all my extra program on micro drive, my first impression is it runs faster than miniSDHC for some reason, will do benchmark on these a bit later
wu5262 said:
yes i have try that, it works for the first time, after soft restart, all not working again.......such a waste for this miniSDHC, anyway, i have install all my extra program on micro drive, my first impression is it runs faster than miniSDHC for some reason, will do benchmark on these a bit later
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if you install in Micro Drive, battery will be empty sooner
why you don't install on device memory?
Do you try another memory on it?
Arya said:
if you install in Micro Drive, battery will be empty sooner
why you don't install on device memory?
Do you try another memory on it?
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i am not sure how bad the battery will be if i use micro drive, but do you really think install on mini-SD is faster than micro drive?
NO!!, micro drive is much much faster, i have run the benchmark on these two, the micro drive is running at least 5 times faster than my high speed miniSD, and the index score of micro drive is way higher than the fastest file index device in the world (dell dx something). The micro drive also use FAT32 format.
So i guess i will keep my program there for now and see how the battery goes
i did the installation into storage card(transcend 4G mini SDHC)...
and then run the program from program files...
it works well!
parkertseng said:
i did the installation into storage card(transcend 4G mini SDHC)...
and then run the program from program files...
it works well!
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!!!!........really......something strange here. where did you buy yours? is it possible mine one is fake? did you do anything special or just install the normal way?
please say here how much battery work?
before and after use micro driver.
I personally think the problem is of your memory and a say test another memory to see do it work good or no?
Arya said:
please say here how much battery work?
before and after use micro driver.
I personally think the problem is of your memory and a say test another memory to see do it work good or no?
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i have found the problem and solve it, it's to do with the name of the sd card, change it to "Stroage Card" and everything works great. So still, i don't know how much battery it drain for running programs on Micro drive, since all my programs are back to mini-SD now, but it does feel faster when you install in Micro drive i think
wu5262 said:
i have found the problem and solve it, it's to do with the name of the sd card, change it to "Stroage Card" and everything works great. So still, i don't know how much battery it drain for running programs on Micro drive, since all my programs are back to mini-SD now, but it does feel faster when you install in Micro drive i think
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Oh, eyval
it is a good news
but this is a problem that you solve it with this work.
tanX
So we can't rename SDcard to install programs on it...
cornelius said:
So we can't rename SDcard to install programs on it...
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that's exactly how i solve my problem, just rename the SD Card and everything is fine
Thanks for all info, i ask for permition to write on athena's wiki all info i get from athena's thread.
cornelius said:
Thanks for all info, i ask for permition to write on athena's wiki all info i get from athena's thread.
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I think this is a good way and find info is easire
tanX
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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I got the same problem on my Dopod U1000 with TOSHIBA 2GB mini-SD, sometime the memory card is readable but the file structure is broken it case some software can not run after reset the device all resume to normal.
I think it is not only the SDHC problem.
simdao said:
I got the same problem on my Dopod U1000 with TOSHIBA 2GB mini-SD, sometime the memory card is readable but the file structure is broken it case some software can not run after reset the device all resume to normal.
I think it is not only the SDHC problem.
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it's not SDHC, it's the name of the SD card, you have to rename it Storage Card, otherwise software won't work
I have always retained the original name for my SD card (Storage Card), but on three occasions so far, the file structure and name were garbed when viewed with file explorer, or were simply missing. In one instance, I was editing an excel spreadsheet and suddenly found that I could not save it. I was forced to first save into the device,reset the device, then transfer the spreadsheet back to the storage card. I read from other forum that I'm not alone in having to reset to regain the Storage Card data.
Perhaps there is a bug in the ROM, Wu?
I haven't actually installed any programs on my 4 GB mini-SDHC card, but I have no problems running programs on the card. I've created shortcuts to Transport Tycoon, ScummVM and PTGmap and they're all running fine on the card...
Hi,
what is the size of your SD-card that you are using with your WM6 BA?
Does Helmi's ROM support up to 4GB card?
I'm asking because I'd like to buy a new one - preferable 4GB.
Thanks in advance
Phily
BA supports standard SD cards not the SDHC.
So if you manage to get more than 2gb on a regular SD card that would work.
I guess that there is one company that make 4g regular SD cards.
I have 4GB card (Platinum brand) that is not SDHC and works fine in BA. Ideal for multiple navigation systems.
I think Transcend have 4 GB card that is reported to work in ba
(I have not tryed it)
xplode said:
I think Transcend have 4 GB card that is reported to work in ba
(I have not tryed it)
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I have 4G Transcend SD 150x (it is not SDHC) - works very good, but it is slow card. (very slow writing data, both WM5 and WM6).
Thanks
Thank you for your feedback!
SCHC
With the cab SDHC.cab it's possible to read card up to 8Go.
teddybear3k said:
With the cab SDHC.cab it's possible to read card up to 8Go.
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Not in Bleangel
teddybear3k: have you tried? I go for xplode and say, that it's not possible.
Not possible until skilled programmer rewrite the SD Bus driver
SDHC
what about this? (WARNING THIS HP offers warez aswell, but following links are, so far I know, to free ware! So please do not warn, kick or ban me for this links.)
Page Link -- http://myppc.ru/2007/09/14/sdhc_driver.html
File Link -- http://myppc.ru/uploads/files/myppc.ru-1881_sdhc.rar
Is it the same? I would like to install it, but I'm aware, if it could scratch my device....
The given page actually is a good newsticker for PPC programs, I like it even more, than HPC.ru
if this cab should work, then even SDHC Cards with more then 32GB should probably work aswell....
wfg. - Mihail
Mihail: on the list there is NO BlueAngel. Installing it won't kill your device, you will just loose SD card access (and you will need to reverse the operation or make hard reset to get back the access).
We need SD driver made especially for BlueAngel.
List only tells,
on which devices this driver was already applied! Not for which devices it is maid!
That's why!
Mikhail: test it and report. Make backup before and prepare for HR.
Test to 50%
O don't have any SDHC cards! So I could only test, if this cab allows to use SD-Cards, not more... but I will do it!
HTC driver - but not BA
Is not working for BA.... and I'm not a progger (and for shure not a disassembler/hacker) to change this.
So you just confirmed what we said. Please confirm it on your own before publishing any new "breakthru" news.
sd bus driver
Does any one you think that it is possible to use the bsquare development kits to build support for higher/faster sd cards for blue angel?
If you had source code for the SD reader driver and knew how to update it to support SDHC (by hand probably) yes, this is doable with ANY devkit. Without this you are left with desassembling and analysing it in assembler/C.
sd card
hmm i am a high level programmer. (But I like to dive into the subject for giving something back to this community) (I can program in C but have never build a driver before) (Assembly is far beyond my scope) Though I have some good system programmers in my business environment. I will post my findings in this thread and maybe it's a good idea to change the direction of this thread to making this possible (and the way to doing it) instead of asking which is the max card working on the blue angel. Making the BA take advantage of the new generation SD cards is IMHO a very important step.
Can anyone tell me how to format micro SDHC 6GB card on my TyTn II?
I cant format on my pc, it says "Can not format"
I use Resco Explorer 2007. It can format the storage cards in the device. Its not free but well worth the price:
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/default.asp
You might want to be careful as the memory card might be a fake one if bought from Ebay. I have bought a memory stick pro duo on ebay and it came out to be a fake memory card. It had a capacity rating of 2gb but whenever I placed files onto the memory card after a certain amount, the files became corrupted and did not work. It showed that it was still there but the actual file when tried to open didn't work. Trying to format it was a pain in the butt as well.
Norwagian Mobile Networking Site
no i got it from the site where i got he TyTn II mobile at www.netcom.no itts norwegian
FreddernLFC said:
Can anyone tell me how to format micro SDHC 6GB card on my TyTn II?
I cant format on my pc, it says "Can not format"
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MemMaid has a function called "Card Tools"
Where 2 download?
FreddernLFC said:
Where 2 download?
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G-O-O-G-L-E
It's not just for p0rn anymore!
kyphur said:
G-O-O-G-L-E
It's not just for p0rn anymore!
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i tryd, but only some other stuff comes up
FreddernLFC said:
i tryd, but only some other stuff comes up
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MemMaid+PPC
Right on the first page at least 3 different places to download it from!
Maybe I can give you a download for the google I use?
Anyone noticed the same?
When I brows the storage card with Total Commander the files are read real slow by the system.
You can literly see them popup one by one!
I mean when opening a directory on Storage card I must wait a very long time untill all files are vissible!
My opinion is that this has something to do with the device freezes.
Please confirm if you have simular problem?
Thank you,
Leo
Laurentius26 said:
Anyone noticed the same?
When I brows the storage card with Total Commander the files are read real slow by the system.
You can literly see them popup one by one!
I mean when opening a directory on Storage card I must wait a very long time untill all files are vissible!
My opinion is that this has something to do with the device freezes.
Please confirm if you have simular problem?
Thank you,
Leo
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i have never had this problem. You can look up the cab that speeds up your storage card and see if that fixes it. I saw it on here yesterday I believe.
I think there are three possibilities:
1) Your card is defective.
2) You did not format it with the correct parameter.
3) You have a defective reader in your device.
Do a benchmark using sktool to see if your read write speed is within the normal range.
Thank you,
It must be the storage card that came with the device.
Some files are inaccesable, also when I put it in my usb adapter my desktop doesn't read the storage card.
I lost a lot of data I think!
Maybe formatting the card will help.
Grtz,
Leo
eaglesteve said:
I think there are three possibilities:
1) Your card is defective.
2) You did not format it with the correct parameter.
3) You have a defective reader in your device.
Do a benchmark using sktool to see if your read write speed is within the normal range.
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