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mini-SDHC Issue......bad news

Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.

wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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How about making a shortcut of the programs to Windows/Start Menu/Programs ?

wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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YES... its same problem here .......
cheers
indra9110

wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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I hear about Universal that not work good with all memory
maybe it work good with another memory
in the other site i think they sell SanDisk for Athena
i'm not sure
tanX

victoradjei said:
How about making a shortcut of the programs to Windows/Start Menu/Programs ?
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yes i have try that, it works for the first time, after soft restart, all not working again.......such a waste for this miniSDHC, anyway, i have install all my extra program on micro drive, my first impression is it runs faster than miniSDHC for some reason, will do benchmark on these a bit later

wu5262 said:
yes i have try that, it works for the first time, after soft restart, all not working again.......such a waste for this miniSDHC, anyway, i have install all my extra program on micro drive, my first impression is it runs faster than miniSDHC for some reason, will do benchmark on these a bit later
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if you install in Micro Drive, battery will be empty sooner
why you don't install on device memory?
Do you try another memory on it?

Arya said:
if you install in Micro Drive, battery will be empty sooner
why you don't install on device memory?
Do you try another memory on it?
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i am not sure how bad the battery will be if i use micro drive, but do you really think install on mini-SD is faster than micro drive?
NO!!, micro drive is much much faster, i have run the benchmark on these two, the micro drive is running at least 5 times faster than my high speed miniSD, and the index score of micro drive is way higher than the fastest file index device in the world (dell dx something). The micro drive also use FAT32 format.
So i guess i will keep my program there for now and see how the battery goes

i did the installation into storage card(transcend 4G mini SDHC)...
and then run the program from program files...
it works well!

parkertseng said:
i did the installation into storage card(transcend 4G mini SDHC)...
and then run the program from program files...
it works well!
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!!!!........really......something strange here. where did you buy yours? is it possible mine one is fake? did you do anything special or just install the normal way?

please say here how much battery work?
before and after use micro driver.
I personally think the problem is of your memory and a say test another memory to see do it work good or no?

Arya said:
please say here how much battery work?
before and after use micro driver.
I personally think the problem is of your memory and a say test another memory to see do it work good or no?
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i have found the problem and solve it, it's to do with the name of the sd card, change it to "Stroage Card" and everything works great. So still, i don't know how much battery it drain for running programs on Micro drive, since all my programs are back to mini-SD now, but it does feel faster when you install in Micro drive i think

wu5262 said:
i have found the problem and solve it, it's to do with the name of the sd card, change it to "Stroage Card" and everything works great. So still, i don't know how much battery it drain for running programs on Micro drive, since all my programs are back to mini-SD now, but it does feel faster when you install in Micro drive i think
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Oh, eyval
it is a good news
but this is a problem that you solve it with this work.
tanX

So we can't rename SDcard to install programs on it...

cornelius said:
So we can't rename SDcard to install programs on it...
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that's exactly how i solve my problem, just rename the SD Card and everything is fine

Thanks for all info, i ask for permition to write on athena's wiki all info i get from athena's thread.

cornelius said:
Thanks for all info, i ask for permition to write on athena's wiki all info i get from athena's thread.
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I think this is a good way and find info is easire
tanX

wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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I got the same problem on my Dopod U1000 with TOSHIBA 2GB mini-SD, sometime the memory card is readable but the file structure is broken it case some software can not run after reset the device all resume to normal.
I think it is not only the SDHC problem.

simdao said:
I got the same problem on my Dopod U1000 with TOSHIBA 2GB mini-SD, sometime the memory card is readable but the file structure is broken it case some software can not run after reset the device all resume to normal.
I think it is not only the SDHC problem.
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it's not SDHC, it's the name of the SD card, you have to rename it Storage Card, otherwise software won't work

I have always retained the original name for my SD card (Storage Card), but on three occasions so far, the file structure and name were garbed when viewed with file explorer, or were simply missing. In one instance, I was editing an excel spreadsheet and suddenly found that I could not save it. I was forced to first save into the device,reset the device, then transfer the spreadsheet back to the storage card. I read from other forum that I'm not alone in having to reset to regain the Storage Card data.
Perhaps there is a bug in the ROM, Wu?

I haven't actually installed any programs on my 4 GB mini-SDHC card, but I have no problems running programs on the card. I've created shortcuts to Transport Tycoon, ScummVM and PTGmap and they're all running fine on the card...

Large Files Getting Coppupted on Mini SD

I´ve been trying to copy large files, as movies or maps databases to my mini sd and they are all getting corrupted.
Has anyone experienced this issue already? Do you think that it might be a problem with the phont or with the memory stick?
Thanks
Cesar

i remember that long ago i had a similar problem. Then, i formatted the mini sd card on the pc with FAT32 and it is working fine since then.

Are you copying direct to the card in a card reader, or using ActiveSync?
AS has always had a tendency to corrupt large files, and is limited to USB1 transfer rates. Originally the file size limit was about 14MB but I think AS4.0 is capable of a bit more
Anything more than 30MB would be best transferred with a card reader. If you already have corrupt files, I'd suggest copying what you have to the PC, then as suggested above, do a reformat (as long as the card is no larger than 2GB); MiniSD Cards larger than 2GB (as opposed to SDHC, which works in WM6) need special formatting, as the cluster size is modified.

Thanks for the tips. I´ve been using ActiveSync, but i´m going to buy a card reader.
I was thinking that it was a problem with my phone and i´m really glad to know that it´s normal!
Thanks
NeilM said:
Are you copying direct to the card in a card reader, or using ActiveSync?
AS has always had a tendency to corrupt large files, and is limited to USB1 transfer rates. Originally the file size limit was about 14MB but I think AS4.0 is capable of a bit more
Anything more than 30MB would be best transferred with a card reader. If you already have corrupt files, I'd suggest copying what you have to the PC, then as suggested above, do a reformat (as long as the card is no larger than 2GB); MiniSD Cards larger than 2GB (as opposed to SDHC, which works in WM6) need special formatting, as the cluster size is modified.
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Slow storage card reading.

Anyone noticed the same?
When I brows the storage card with Total Commander the files are read real slow by the system.
You can literly see them popup one by one!
I mean when opening a directory on Storage card I must wait a very long time untill all files are vissible!
My opinion is that this has something to do with the device freezes.
Please confirm if you have simular problem?
Thank you,
Leo

Laurentius26 said:
Anyone noticed the same?
When I brows the storage card with Total Commander the files are read real slow by the system.
You can literly see them popup one by one!
I mean when opening a directory on Storage card I must wait a very long time untill all files are vissible!
My opinion is that this has something to do with the device freezes.
Please confirm if you have simular problem?
Thank you,
Leo
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i have never had this problem. You can look up the cab that speeds up your storage card and see if that fixes it. I saw it on here yesterday I believe.

I think there are three possibilities:
1) Your card is defective.
2) You did not format it with the correct parameter.
3) You have a defective reader in your device.
Do a benchmark using sktool to see if your read write speed is within the normal range.

Thank you,
It must be the storage card that came with the device.
Some files are inaccesable, also when I put it in my usb adapter my desktop doesn't read the storage card.
I lost a lot of data I think!
Maybe formatting the card will help.
Grtz,
Leo
eaglesteve said:
I think there are three possibilities:
1) Your card is defective.
2) You did not format it with the correct parameter.
3) You have a defective reader in your device.
Do a benchmark using sktool to see if your read write speed is within the normal range.
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Turbo Speed X1 - ROM 1 - Performance Thread, tweaks and benchmarks

Here it is the thread you all been waiting for, these simple tools and freely avaliable software will turbo charge your X1 into the stratosphere, safely, consistantly and error free, upto 8 X faster !!!
To check these wild claims use SKTools 5 supplied here, within there is a benchmark program to test key paramenters like Video speed and Memory Card speeds, run benchmark a few times to get a consistant reading.
View attachment SKTools5.CAB
To find the Bench mark Program: Click Catagory at the bottom, then Information, then you will find the benchmark program.
1) Turbo charge your micro SD card.
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This simple program written by XDA developers will increase the read speed of your micro SD card by a facter of 8 !
Benchmark before program: Read Speed: 2,000 approx
Benchmark after program: Read Speed: 16,000 approx
2) Turbo charge your graphics
Within SkTools5 there is a program called Optimize, it is under the first catagory : Standard. It will automatically pick 3 settings that can be adjusted, tick Font Cache Size and TCP window size. Then click the Action button at the bottom, make sure Performance is ticked and then click Optimize. The program will then do a soft reset.
Using Benchmark: Draw bitmaps: before Optimize: around 180, pathetic ! a 5 year old can draw faster than that.
Using benchmark: Draw bitmaps: after Optimize : around 780 - wow ! i-robot speed ha ha
Thats 4 X graphics - its smokin !
3) General performace tweaks
View attachment Schaps_AdvancedConfig_v2.0.2.0.CAB
Using Advanced Configuration settings, under performances check these settings.
File System Cache: Enabled
File System cache size: 8mb
File system filter cache: 16384 sectors
Glyph cache: 32 kb
The effect of all these tweaks and enhancements means I can play 800 x 480 video perfectly just like TV, and Touch 3D is silky smooth and fast.
These are not idle claims, my X1 has vastly improved performance all round, I am finally happy with my X1, it rocks, bring on that iphone and our 'cuz' the Touch HD.
With this site.
And a bit of insight.
Through our will.
And XDA Developer skill.
The X1 is...the king of the hill
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thanks a lot. Will try out later

Don't see much of a difference but then again i had most of these tweaks already in with the exception of the sd card read/write speed increase.

I did these tweaks and like Bxsteez only the SD card read speed increased.. from around 2000kb to 15-16k kb... However the bitmat draw speed was already 781 from the start.. perhaps there are ways to evern further increase it?
And what more can we do?
Thank you so much!

Increasing the filesystem cache improved my file navigation. The Windows folder used to take a long time to display, now it's faster.
Can't see much improvement on the display though. BTW, any trade offs in terms of battery life with the tweaks?

Thanks for the tnyynt SD TuneUP.cab and it indeed make the Micro SD Card reading faster.
However, the Advanced Config program is not so good compared to another version I have as I cannot find many section like the calendars etc.
Thanks for your effort anyway.

Can anyone say what the dispaly/graphics tweaks do? Are they modifying certain registry entries?
Could someone tell us what is exactly changed, so we don't need to download that program, and can manually edit the registry entries?
Same for the SD Card tweak, what exactly is being changed here?
For learning for us all, I think it is much more interesting and important to know what is being done and being applied so we can learn from it and improve further, than just blindly install .CAB files!

I believe you can use advanced config to do all of those tweaks with the exception of the sd card tweak. I have no idea what is being done there.

The fastest X1 in the west !
After all your tweaking and performance enhancements, its time to put your X1's on the track. Tick all 6 benchmark catagories in SKTools5 and run the test, if anyone consistantly gets higher than any of these results please post your results, and any explanation or tools you may have to help us all improve.
Rules, there are none, may the fastest X1 win !
Custom Roms entries are welcome , any smokin hot rods out there ?
I have a stock Rom with a 16 gb sd card
Phone and wifi ( traction control ) off
Integer: 329
Floating point :7.47
Ram access:1519
Draw Bitmaps:797
Main storage (write):11070
Main storage (read):17066
Storage card (write): 483
Storage card (read): 16832
Can you brake the 800 barrier on Bitmaps ?
Can your SD card out run the 17,000 sound barrier

Mark A Cilenti said:
After all your tweaking and performance enhancements, its time to put your X1's on the track. Tick all 6 benchmark catagories in SKTools5 and run the test, if anyone consistantly gets higher than any of these results please post your results, and any explanation or tools you may have to help us all improve.
Rules, there are none, may the fastest X1 win !
Custom Roms entries are welcome , any smokin hot rods out there ?
I have a stock Rom with a 16 gb sd card
Phone and wifi ( traction control ) off
Integer: 329
Floating point :7.47
Ram access:1519
Draw Bitmaps:797
Main storage (write):11070
Main storage (read):17066
Storage card (write): 483
Storage card (read): 16786
Can you brake the 800 barrier on Bitmaps ?
Can your SD card out run the 17,000 sound barrier
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Hi, below are my Benchmark results :
Integer: 332.1045
Floating point :7.513
Ram access:1417
Draw Bitmaps:801
Main storage (write):11191.26
Main storage (read):16297.08
Storage card (write): 646
Storage card (read): 16384

Contender
Hi Chongbh
Nice Bitmaps, I bet your runnin a 4gb card ?

Mark A Cilenti said:
Hi Chongbh
Nice Bitmaps, I bet your runnin a 4gb card ?
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Yes, you are right. Still running on default 4GB MicroSD Card.

Mine with Jacks 1.06 ROM
Integer: 329.2297
Floating point :7.486
Ram access:1481
Draw Bitmaps:789
Main storage (write):10326.05
Main storage (read):15794.66
Ramdisk (write): 5394.21
Ramdisk (read): 16925.62
Although I think i've slowed it down a bit by installing/uninstalling too much stuff, perhaps it'll be better with a fresh installation

Ram disc nitrous !
Hi, THJahar
Whats the ramdisc, that more than 10 X my SD write, you,ve taken the lead, for now ha ha

Mine with Jacks 1.07 ROM
Integer: 328
Floating point :7.442
Ram access:1470
Draw Bitmaps:787
Main storage (write):11548
Main storage (read):15022
Ramdisk (write): 5242
Ramdisk (read): 15835
Ran twice

Thanks for this write up. I got:
Integer: 328.89
Floating point :7.521
Ram access:990
Draw Bitmaps:786
Main storage (write):8641.35
Main storage (read):11273.39
Storage card (write): 409.03
Storage card (read): 15633.59
Why are my numbers lower?
ok ran it again just to be sure:
Integer: 331.2134
Floating point :7.54
Ram access:1510
Draw Bitmaps:798
Main storage (write):8904.35
Main storage (read):13444.20
Storage card (write): 425.54
Storage card (read): 16605.41
Yay at least everything went up the 2nd time haha.

Hmmm whats the down side of applying all those tweaks?
battery life?
heat?
Can we undo all of those changes and get the phone back to what it was just in case something goes wrong ?
Thanks

what about the camera recording/encoding at vga?
any enhancement with these tweaks?

rotsu said:
Hmmm whats the down side of applying all those tweaks?
battery life?
heat?
Can we undo all of those changes and get the phone back to what it was just in case something goes wrong ?
Thanks
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memory leaks = more freq. soft resets. they're all just registry changes so easy to revert.

aussiebum said:
memory leaks = more freq. soft resets. they're all just registry changes so easy to revert.
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What are you talking about? Most tweaks are just use more memory for caching to increase performance. The SD cab probably just enable DMA to increase throughput. All of them has nothing to do w/ memory leak.
BTW, why use SKtool instead of SPB Benchmark? SPB takes much longer but provide more detail.

how can i check my SD card speed?

i got a class 6, 4gig card at kmart for like 9.99 on sale..seems to good of a price. how can i check to see what my sd card speed atually is?
thanks

Put it in a Card Reader and then run CristalMark on it! Be sure to select 100MB test file or the test will continue for eternity!

how about if i dont have a card reader?

Which card should i Use?
OrionBG said:
Put it in a Card Reader and then run CristalMark on it! Be sure to select 100MB test file or the test will continue for eternity!
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Which of the 2 cards should I use?
The only con of the 4GB is that the seq write is slower than the 8gb. I've attached the tests.
Thanks