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Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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How about making a shortcut of the programs to Windows/Start Menu/Programs ?
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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YES... its same problem here .......
cheers
indra9110
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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I hear about Universal that not work good with all memory
maybe it work good with another memory
in the other site i think they sell SanDisk for Athena
i'm not sure
tanX
victoradjei said:
How about making a shortcut of the programs to Windows/Start Menu/Programs ?
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yes i have try that, it works for the first time, after soft restart, all not working again.......such a waste for this miniSDHC, anyway, i have install all my extra program on micro drive, my first impression is it runs faster than miniSDHC for some reason, will do benchmark on these a bit later
wu5262 said:
yes i have try that, it works for the first time, after soft restart, all not working again.......such a waste for this miniSDHC, anyway, i have install all my extra program on micro drive, my first impression is it runs faster than miniSDHC for some reason, will do benchmark on these a bit later
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if you install in Micro Drive, battery will be empty sooner
why you don't install on device memory?
Do you try another memory on it?
Arya said:
if you install in Micro Drive, battery will be empty sooner
why you don't install on device memory?
Do you try another memory on it?
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i am not sure how bad the battery will be if i use micro drive, but do you really think install on mini-SD is faster than micro drive?
NO!!, micro drive is much much faster, i have run the benchmark on these two, the micro drive is running at least 5 times faster than my high speed miniSD, and the index score of micro drive is way higher than the fastest file index device in the world (dell dx something). The micro drive also use FAT32 format.
So i guess i will keep my program there for now and see how the battery goes
i did the installation into storage card(transcend 4G mini SDHC)...
and then run the program from program files...
it works well!
parkertseng said:
i did the installation into storage card(transcend 4G mini SDHC)...
and then run the program from program files...
it works well!
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!!!!........really......something strange here. where did you buy yours? is it possible mine one is fake? did you do anything special or just install the normal way?
please say here how much battery work?
before and after use micro driver.
I personally think the problem is of your memory and a say test another memory to see do it work good or no?
Arya said:
please say here how much battery work?
before and after use micro driver.
I personally think the problem is of your memory and a say test another memory to see do it work good or no?
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i have found the problem and solve it, it's to do with the name of the sd card, change it to "Stroage Card" and everything works great. So still, i don't know how much battery it drain for running programs on Micro drive, since all my programs are back to mini-SD now, but it does feel faster when you install in Micro drive i think
wu5262 said:
i have found the problem and solve it, it's to do with the name of the sd card, change it to "Stroage Card" and everything works great. So still, i don't know how much battery it drain for running programs on Micro drive, since all my programs are back to mini-SD now, but it does feel faster when you install in Micro drive i think
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Oh, eyval
it is a good news
but this is a problem that you solve it with this work.
tanX
So we can't rename SDcard to install programs on it...
cornelius said:
So we can't rename SDcard to install programs on it...
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that's exactly how i solve my problem, just rename the SD Card and everything is fine
Thanks for all info, i ask for permition to write on athena's wiki all info i get from athena's thread.
cornelius said:
Thanks for all info, i ask for permition to write on athena's wiki all info i get from athena's thread.
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I think this is a good way and find info is easire
tanX
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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I got the same problem on my Dopod U1000 with TOSHIBA 2GB mini-SD, sometime the memory card is readable but the file structure is broken it case some software can not run after reset the device all resume to normal.
I think it is not only the SDHC problem.
simdao said:
I got the same problem on my Dopod U1000 with TOSHIBA 2GB mini-SD, sometime the memory card is readable but the file structure is broken it case some software can not run after reset the device all resume to normal.
I think it is not only the SDHC problem.
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it's not SDHC, it's the name of the SD card, you have to rename it Storage Card, otherwise software won't work
I have always retained the original name for my SD card (Storage Card), but on three occasions so far, the file structure and name were garbed when viewed with file explorer, or were simply missing. In one instance, I was editing an excel spreadsheet and suddenly found that I could not save it. I was forced to first save into the device,reset the device, then transfer the spreadsheet back to the storage card. I read from other forum that I'm not alone in having to reset to regain the Storage Card data.
Perhaps there is a bug in the ROM, Wu?
I haven't actually installed any programs on my 4 GB mini-SDHC card, but I have no problems running programs on the card. I've created shortcuts to Transport Tycoon, ScummVM and PTGmap and they're all running fine on the card...
Hi, my micro drive keeps coroupting, it happen a few days ago were it said there was no space left although it was only half full, I looked in it with file exploror, all the file and folder names were coroupt. I then hard reset and formated the drive and back to normal then the same happened today, I noticed as Live search kicked up and error on startup so I looked in exploror and all the file names wee croupt and no space soft reset and I've lost 90% of my data on the drive bt it says in setings -- memory that I have about 50% free space (what there should be if all my files where there) but I can't access them does anyone have any ideas how what bor why this is happening?
Pocket Mechanic
I have had this problem ones. I was defragmenting my MicroDrive with Pocket Mechanic and I think that it went corrupt when somen huge files were defragmented. I did a low level format wit Pocket Mechanic and since ten I did not have this problem. I have read that you could also try to format the MicroDrive with WMStorage with your desktop. It works better than te format function of the Athena itself.
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Hi, my micro drive keeps coroupting, it happen a few days ago were it said there was no space left although it was only half full, I looked in it with file exploror, all the file and folder names were coroupt. I then hard reset and formated the drive and back to normal then the same happened today, I noticed as Live search kicked up and error on startup so I looked in exploror and all the file names wee croupt and no space soft reset and I've lost 90% of my data on the drive bt it says in setings -- memory that I have about 50% free space (what there should be if all my files where there) but I can't access them does anyone have any ideas how what bor why this is happening?
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which machine are you using? Ameo, DOPOD U1000 or HTC Advantage?
HTC Advantage
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HTC Advantage
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um....HTC Advantage seems to have a higher chance for this to happen, i have heard someone said there is some recall on this device, but still i can't get that confirm from the official. All i can say is don't put your important data in MD, install all your extra programs to SD not MD.
I use my MD to store music, movie and photo only.
I heard that HTC released later it's X7500 just to solve some problems with microdrive occurred on Ameo. That's very strange. How ever it's really tragic if I cuoldn't use micro drive for important document storage. It's one of the main reasons why I bought it...
P.S. I'm using microdrive for applications, Pictures an Video, I thought that it could be faster and safer than mini sd...
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I heard that HTC released later it's X7500 just to solve some problems with microdrive occurred on Ameo. That's very strange. How ever it's really tragic if I cuoldn't use micro drive for important document storage. It's one of the main reasons why I bought it...
P.S. I'm using microdrive for applications, Pictures an Video, I thought that it could be faster and safer than mini sd...
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you should really save your application on sd card, because it will save you more battery, yes MD does run faster but i have heard at least 7 user now report they have file loss or MD issue, so you should try to avoid saving important doc in MD. i have never heard people report that file loss in sd so it seems to be a better place for storing important data
Ive been reading posts on other threads in the forums, and it appears some users have had the same issue with SD cards on other devices, Although knobody has Id's the problem yet.
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Ive been reading posts on other threads in the forums, and it appears some users have had the same issue with SD cards on other devices, Although knobody has Id's the problem yet.
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some had problem with SD? you mind posting the link? i have read through all the post in Athena, don't seems to remember someone mention this
Well, on my Dopod U1000, I have twice experienced the scenario whereby my miniSD shows gibberish characters in File Explorer. I have to soft-reset my device in order for things to go back to normal. I still have no clue what could have gone wrong as I have only installed MapKing and pRSSreader on the miniSD.
Anyway, one of the things I will do this weekend is to reformat the miniSD on my laptop.
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you should really save your application on sd card, because it will save you more battery, yes MD does run faster but i have heard at least 7 user now report they have file loss or MD issue, so you should try to avoid saving important doc in MD. i have never heard people report that file loss in sd so it seems to be a better place for storing important data
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I'm planning a travel very soon and I thought to use MD to store pictures and videos I will take. So you advice me to use MiniSD for apps and MD for pics, movies and music? I was also thinking about to buy a portable Hard Disk to dowload every day what is stored on MD. What do you think about it?
Where do you think it could be safe to store tomtom maps?
THX 4 your replay...
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I'm planning a travel very soon and I thought to use MD to store pictures and videos I will take. So you advice me to use MiniSD for apps and MD for pics, movies and music? I was also thinking about to buy a portable Hard Disk to dowload every day what is stored on MD. What do you think about it?
Where do you think it could be safe to store tomtom maps?
THX 4 your replay...
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personally, i will suggest you to install app in SD, tomtom map should be in SD as well, this way you can save more battery. Store only music and old and movie on MD. These file are large so they should be in MD , and if MD is loss, these data are not important as well, you can transfer again from computer.
Now for the new photo you take by the camera, store them i n SD, organize them then you can store a copy in MD.
Follow the above suggestion, you should then have no problem with all your files, app and data, and it gives you a longer usage time as well
wu5262 said:
... yes MD does run faster ...
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Is this right - My MicroDrive takes longer to do a file listing in File Explorer than the memory or an SD card?
Also, I seem now to have developed a MicroDrive directory and my MD is now called MicroDrive2. The only thing in the MicroDrive directory is an empty directory for email attachments. How could this have happened?
@wu5262
I will follow your suggestions, so I will HR my device and format microdrive and MiniSD as well. Any news about 4gb MiniSd support?
PS I will leave in july...I hope WM06 upgrade will be available as soon as possible...maybe should I wait for it before Hresetting?
About MicroDrive format do I follow procedure within Hreset, when it asks to do Hreset and MD format both?
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Also, I seem now to have developed a MicroDrive directory and my MD is now called MicroDrive2. The only thing in the MicroDrive directory is an empty directory for email attachments. How could this have happened?
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Did you happen to move your messaging folder from \Windows to the MicroDrive?
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Did you happen to move your messaging folder from \Windows to the MicroDrive?
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No - I did ask Outlook to store attachments on the Storage Card (before I had inserted an SD card). I wanted attachments to be on the MD.
Also, I've just noticed I have a directory for attachments on my MD as well!!! I have no idea what is going on.
Do I have to hard reset? (I'm beginning to think my Universal was a lot easier to live with!!!)
asci said:
@wu5262
I will follow your suggestions, so I will HR my device and format microdrive and MiniSD as well. Any news about 4gb MiniSd support?
PS I will leave in july...I hope WM06 upgrade will be available as soon as possible...maybe should I wait for it before Hresetting?
About MicroDrive format do I follow procedure within Hreset, when it asks to do Hreset and MD format both?
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wm6 Upgrade isn't coming that soon, no official date yet. All we know is summer, and usually there is a delay. I am using transcend miniSDHC 4GB, it works well on my machine, no problem at all.
When you hard restart, it will ask you whether you want to format the MD, just click yes. I have heard other people saying using other tools to format MD is better, but i have had no problem with the default tool in our machine
I've had the same problem. Won't make the same mistake twice.
I tried to defrag the HD with Pocket Mechanic but it found errors on the HD. So I ran scandisk. Scandisk fixed the problems and when I went back to defrag it locked up and programs wouldn't run and I lost data. Just sucks.
I have since installed all programs to my 4gig miniSD card and am only using the HD for temporary storage.
Hope this isn't an ongoing problem because I paid a lot for this device.
wu5262 said:
some had problem with SD? you mind posting the link? i have read through all the post in Athena, don't seems to remember someone mention this
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303092
the thread is about storage card corruption on a Hermes, but it is identical to what i have been getting on the athena. - the screen shot on the first post looks just like my device looked when it went bad.
myrapid said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303092
the thread is about storage card corruption on a Hermes, but it is identical to what i have been getting on the athena. - the screen shot on the first post looks just like my device looked when it went bad.
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well, we are not really talking about Hermes here, i think the issue is a bit different here, since the MD issue happens more often on the HTC Advantage until instead of others, and personally, i think the Athena's ROM is far more stable then Hermes.
The weird problems happened to my Dopod D810 twice.
The first time: The whole file system on card went crazy with all folder names became gibberish (like: &%*()jhui&%^&&!#%&). After a soft reset many folders disappeared, a few folders remained but became duplicated but many files inside were not readable (e.g there are two identical folders named My ebooks).
I thought it might be card-related and I hard reset, formated the card, and re-installed all softwares.
Today it happened again but differently:
- I had some video files in Storage card\My Documents\My Videos folder like this ... video_28.mp4, video_29.mp4, video_30.mp4
- After a video shot, I opened Resco Explorer to check and to replay but all folders and files previously in Storage card\My Documents disappeared. Other folders and programs on the card were still intact and ran fine
- I tried shooting another few video clips (with option saving to card, of course). They all disappeared after shooting.
- But the weird thing is: After shooting, I chose the preview option and WMP played the file well. I paused the playing, check the properties of the now playing file and it showed clearly: Storage card\My Documents\My videos\Video_33.mp4
But in File Explorer and Resco explorer the Storage card\My Documents is absolutely empty despite the file IS BEING PLAYED in WMP
- I tried again and again, the video clips preview were always named in sequence like video_34.mp4 then video_35.mp4, .... but they all mysteriously disappeared.
What is wrong? Has anyone experienced the same problem? Is that a hardware failure (writing-to-card)? Should I send in for repair? Please help! I have some important clips that I really want to keep. Is there any way, any tool to help recover the files that are probably still there?
Do you have another miniSD to run some tests?
This could give you an idea of what is going wrong?
The miniSD could be malfunctioning.
Regards!
Apparently, you are a new user here...
The Trinity has a hardware problem that HTC can't still fix by now. Go search for some posts. There is currently NO solution available - you may try cards with smaller capacity, or you do some preventive measures, such as install SD Sentry.
I have found that rebooting without the card in and then putting it back in sorts this out. Also I am attaching fixes from HTC and others which stop minimise this happening. Finally, it is suggested you use the Sandisk MiniSD Ultra II cards instead as they have a faster transfer rate. These are available on Amazon for about 15 UK pounds.
Hawk
Damn it! They're gone
Thanks for all the suggestion.
I did reboot without the card then reinserted it but didn't help.
The card is Kingston 2GB
@Nighthawk2050: what does the first patch do? the second patch seem to be for another set, not Trinity?
@WW2250: what does SD Sentry do?
I bought a Transcend card reader, but could not recover any video files.
The card reader however showed the My Videos folder containing only one last video clip.
It also showed 4 other folders which report error when clicked on
.gif
1.gif
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p0.gif
There are also 2 other files
/p300p1..gif (two dots) with a reported size of 1,838,093 KB
i/p320p1..gi with a reported size of 789,709 KB
I think with a faulty product like this, I have the right to return it (to Three Australia - a 3G provider)
I think they only have one other 3G set which is the Dopod 838 Pro
Please advise if the 838 Pro has any similar problem (or other potential problems)?
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I have found that rebooting without the card in and then putting it back in sorts this out. Also I am attaching fixes from HTC and others which stop minimise this happening. Finally, it is suggested you use the Sandisk MiniSD Ultra II cards instead as they have a faster transfer rate. These are available on Amazon for about 15 UK pounds.
Hawk
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First patch (miniSD HC Patch.cab) don't work....download the new one from the official thread (anyways, it work only on LVSW's ROM v2.0.1.1 and on AX3L's ROM anyversion) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1341004#post1341004
Second patch (ArtemisSDEnhancement.CAB) is only for ARTEMIS, not Trinity
Try Panasonic SD formater for format your SD card.
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Borut
The first patch might not be working for WM5, since it was originally extracted from Hermes WM6 ROM. But you mileage may vary.
SD Sentry is a program written by a Spb developer, who had exactly the same problems of you (for his Artemis though). At that time, there was no fix available from HTC. So he wrote that little program to check constantly for indications of SD card corruptions, such as missing files or folders, screwed up file and folder names, etc.
If such indications are found, it offers you a warning and an option to reboot such that you won't be doing further damages to your card writing to it in an already corrupted state. If you reboot in time, you can yourself a day before it wreaks havoc.
For details, you may want to visit his page at http://www.nixie.narod.ru/sdsentry/index-en.htm
BTW, there was an official fix from HTC for Artemis, but none is released for your precious Trinity, AFAIK.
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Please advise if the 838 Pro has any similar problem (or other potential problems)?
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Don't know for sure for 838 Pro - but it seems to me that this problem is a special free feature from HTC for newer devices like Artemis and Trinity. Besides this issue, I think it's not worth to go back to 838 Pro since it's an older device, slower, and has different sets of problems by itself.
I read extensive from the Artemis forum - and from there I learn that they have a worthy workaround that you may want to try: Don't ever press the power button - let the power save timeout take care of shutting down the machine when not in use.
Their theory is that there's a problem with the HW/OS that interact with the SD card whenever there's a power event, probably lies in the cache or the controller, creating corrupted filesystem data, when unfortunately being actually flushed to your card, would actually inflict real damage. So, if you get strange card suddenly disappear errors, strange filename folders, etc... you'd better reboot it immediately.
Removing the card and re-inserting it seems to reinitialize the driver and will probably revive your card too, but I'd say reboot it is your best bet.
Looks like you now need some software recovering tools to savage your files from your already damaged card. Grab as many as you can recover, re-format the card, and install SD Sentry.
I thought Dopod 838 Pro (Hermes 100) is more or less the same as a Trinity with a keyboard and without GPS?
Anyway, maybe I have to stick with this Trinity for now.
About SD Sentry: another program, would it further slow down the phone?
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Anyway, maybe I have to stick with this Trinity for now.
About SD Sentry: another program, would it further slow down the phone?
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It's incredibly light-weight. I even forgot its existence once installed and configured. It never get into your way unless absolutely necessary - when your card get corrupted
Hope it helps.
Hmm maybe its only my trinity but I observed everytime all the SD data is lost is when I use the internet explorer to download and install something onto the ppc.I've done downloading Flash player 7 from my ppc internet explorer and after a soft reset the sd data is also lost.tell me if I am wrong pls.maybe we can avoid it by not using the ppc i.e. to download stuff and intsall it
if you can reproduce it every time exactly, then it's good. Record the exact procedure and tell HTC about it. I read the guys at artemis forum did that and get a fix from HTC.
I want to do that but I just couldn't reproduce it.
Hello,
same pb with me. Pretty anoying...
I saw that i'm sharing this pb with several people. but doing a wide search on google doesn't give the impression that every body has this pb.
Is it a hardware pb, should I take in back for repair.
Does a WM6 upgrade would solve it ?
thanks for your help.
It's indeed annoying especially when you got nothing left in the card. I don't know about the scope of your search in google - but it's a pretty big problem here in this forum - definitely not limited to Trinity or Artemis.
I am sure not everyone encounter this problem - since it's quite related to write i/o activities to the card. Playing music with media player count as one - since it updates (read: writes) the DRM files in the card automatically whenever it is running; people who use camera reported corruption; and the original poster who downloads and installs cabs on the card.
It's definitely a hardware + software problem, which might be able to get fixed by a software driver patch, but only after HTC has identified the root cause of the problem. That's why I asked s4cr3d to report the bug to HTC if he has a recipe to reproduce the bug step by step.
Take it back for repair? Forget it. WM6 doesn't seem to resolve it as well. I read someone with WM6 (cooked) still have this problem. Don't know about the official rom.... yet.
thanks for your answer. need to wait then... still great device...
I'm using AX3L's ROM v2.0.8 and I must say the SD problem affects WM6 cooked ROMs too. It seems to me that it has something to do with software/hardware incompatibilities.
The specs are as follows:
- Corsair 2GB MiniSD
- AX3L v2.0.8
- AX3L ExtROM v2.0.5
The problem started when I used Resco Explorer's built-in unzip tool to unzip a file onto the Storage Card. Everything went ok until I opened up "Storage Card" and went, "where's the My Documents folder?". In a spectacular twist, I managed to corrupt the card (thru formatting, re-formatting again and again) and now it's dead. I used Panasonic SD Formatter, formatting in Linux, etc. and they weren't much help. My word of advice is to store everything safe in your computer the moment you see disappearing files because it might just go downhill from there.
I strongly believe it is Resco Explorer but I cannot verify this cos' I don't wanna screw up more cards.
I have since bought a Sandisk 1GB card and reflashed AX3L v2.0.8 without the ExtROM (and so, no Resco Explorer). It might be the card, it might be Resco Explorer but I have had no problems since (it's been 10 days now).
Anyway, hope this helps someone in some way. Will definitely try the SDSentry program just to be absolutely safe. These cards don't come cheap over here..
Hi all...
for the 3rd time, all data on my Transcend 2GB minisd card disappeared, and again with the same "symptoms" : first some strange jibberish letters appear in new directories, then all the dirs become unreadable..
I managed to recover some data, unfortunately not all of it, but now I'm trying to find a way to prevent this very irritating known issue of our trinities I always made a soft-reset whenever I couldn't access the card anymore, or whenever i noticed any strange behavior, and this worked fine until this case..
Anyway, do you have any recommendation on what's the best way to format the minisd card?? I'm unable of formatting it inside the Trinity, I don't know how to do it (if there is such a method), and strange enough, the card reader embedded in my laptop isn't reading the card at all
Is there a way to format the card inside the trinity?
I have the exact same problem with my sdhc 4gb card and I was about to ask the exact same question. What are the best formatting options to use?
filesystem fat16? fat32?
block size? 4? 8?
etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267475&highlight=partition
@Rudgear: unfortunately it didn't work
Great I tried formatting it using a card reader and using the Panasonic software for formatting SD cards, and now I can't do anything with the card . It still recognizes it both on the PC and on the trinity, but I can't format it again, because it says it is copy protected or something like this
What can be done now?? Is there a program for low-level format or something like that???
pocket mechanic ?
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Nothing It still tells me that the card is write-protected or something like this.
any other ideas?
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Nothing It still tells me that the card is write-protected or something like this.
any other ideas?
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Can you use RESCO File Explorer for format?
dinopall said:
Can you use RESCO File Explorer for format?
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It actually makes a format, I mean it gives a msg of successful format, but eventually nothing changes
It's a known problem for so long - it seems quite unrelated to fat16/fat32/cluster size. It has been reported for corruption problem for many of th combination. It has been discussed too many times here. Do a search and it would turn up some solutions for you.
ww2250 said:
It's a known problem for so long - it seems quite unrelated to fat16/fat32/cluster size. It has been reported for corruption problem for many of th combination. It has been discussed too many times here. Do a search and it would turn up some solutions for you.
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I know what you are talking about, but the problem now is the card itself, and not how it works on the trinity. The card is simply corrupted right now, I can't do anything with it, even not format it to use it as a normal card on other devices!!
Anybody knows a low level DOS format program??
I fiddled around with my wm6'd hx4700 (thanks kuzuhara!) and a registry editor and found a way to make it regard SD as ram and xip from it.
This renders my device to achieve usage smooth enough i allow myself to reffer to the device as a mini-umpc^_^
For SD only atm, miniSD may or may not work depending on your devices driver. No MMC for the time being.
I sooooo hope this isn't old news
Here's to me not ****ing any of your devices up, it worked wonders for me.
P.S
IMPORTANT!
Delete the Program Files folder and reset again once you see the SD's been renamed to Program Files2.
On the next boot it'll mount as Program Files and everything will load from it.
Excuse me, my brains are stuck in google translator mode
4.11.2007
It seems i was rather in the wrong and am taking a whole new direction.
One which involves reading more carefully before i charge head into the guts of windows embedded.
Will take me a while until next post, and it might become hx4700 exclusive, but i promise you some cool stuff to come yet.
Anybody wanting to make their SD into Program Files to save space,
just start resco reg editor and change hklm\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\Folder: Program Files.
(Originally is SD Card).
You can also try messing with it, making it into diffenent sys folders, just be careful
Mine is currently application cache (Volatile) and [email protected] Files.
(Running sweet with what i got to with the enablement of complete graphics accelaration, except for a minor hang up when returning from sleep).
Sooooooooooo...
ONLY DOWNLOAD AND APPLY THE CURRENT PATCH IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR'E DOING AND WANT TO GIVE BEATING ME TO IT A SHOT!
I'm hoping for a next release in a day, but not necessarily of this project but of an off-chute.
BTW, is it just me or is WM real *nix like?^^
anyone tried this ?
ranasrule said:
anyone tried this ?
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Downloaded, but waiting to see what others think.
Want to know what it does to the SD card and device as the readme does say to move the devices contents of its program files folder to the sd card?????
downloaded it too. but i notice its his forst post.
Lol... it's my first post, sorry..
All it does is make the device call the card drive "Program Files" and set a swap file that's used as most device memory (don't worry, it's faster than most none-nand flash). i had to leave a small buffer in device memory though.
The memory file is unallocated, so just don't forget to leave 528MB free at all times.
Re-read the original post
It is and will be updated with periodic updates should they come.
I've been using it for 72 hours now.
It takes the odd reset to free up memory, but nothing worst than what we had before.
well if all thing got wrong.. anyway to revert it back?.. well ofcourse hard reset is one of it. uhmm.. lets put hardreset aside first..
well.. cant wait to test this.. i made a whole backup of my registry so if thing went wrong.. ill just restore the registry backup..
Good point doube_ofour.
Just export the StorageManager registry key before applying the changes, and if worst comes to worst restore your backed up original.
So, anybody else installed and can connect to tell the tale?
DuperMan said:
So, anybody else installed and can connect to tell the tale?
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I made a cab with the regs and installed it But I'm still experimenting .. Nothing bad happened so far how do i know the device is faster ?!! how did you measured your device's speed ?
So let me get this straight -- it will use the microSD in my TyTN as RAM -- the icky sticky stuff I run out of because internet explorer, pocket player, and spb mobile shell grab it all for themselves?
Is there any way to specify how much of the SD card is used as RAM -- since I don't really need 1 GB of RAM on my device.
I saw your post about 558 MB free but didn't quite understand it. You also said you need the odd softreset to free memory? but why would you need to free up a few MB when you have access to hundreds?
But thanks for sharing with the community -- if this really does work out well for us, that's pretty freaking amazing.
@DuperMan
Does this hack simply make our "Storage Card" transform into "Program Files"?.. Thats it?.. cant see any speed improvement.. besides my memory usage increased by that means my device will perform slow..
My "Program Memory and Storage Memory" Stays the same as 47mb total on both memory..
Exactly Ragart!
Only it's set to use miniSD, i think you'd have to mess with it a little to make it work on miniSD... if response is good i'll make a mini version.
Remember - It's only been tested on wm6 hx4700!
double_ofour said:
@DuperMan
Does this hack simply make our "Storage Card" transform into "Program Files"?.. Thats it?.. cant see any speed improvement.. besides my memory usage increased by that means my device will perform slow..
My "Program Memory and Storage Memory" Stays the same as 47mb total on both memory..
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in my case my program memory decreased by something around 10mb ! and I can't see any improvement in speed too ...
miniSD, hmm? Well that's the slightly-larger brother of my 1GB MicroSD. So I guess I'll just watch the thread and see others' reactions before I try anything (though I do have fullbackups)
Thanks for the quick response. So how much RAM does your hx4700 'have' now? and did you set it to 558 extra for a reason? Just curious questions from a person who doesn't understand the intricacies of reg editing
@doube_ofour:
Use it for a while, constant usage should be smoother. Did you free the space up by deleting the old Program Files as well?
Use it to surf for a while, multiple windows style, and you'll notice the difference.
Also, don't be mean to my hack Don't load it to spite, wait for each app to load and keep on starting apps without (majorly) worrying about a system crash.
@hma4:
The age old method of feel
It doesn't boost anything per say, but your device shouldn't be as compaction ridden as it was, so less mem degradation over time=more time between resets under heavy work loads. and i mean heavy. also, multi-tasking is MUCH more usable.
@ragart:
I set it to have a 512Mb paging area on the SD, plus 512kb in main for caching and another 16Mb for caching on SD, so that's a total of 528.5Mb overall mem, 16.5Mb cache and half a gig paging (good for them internet chaches etc..
i check on the registry that u have made in ur reg hack. seems like all the folders etc is the same even for a miniSD card ... so do u think it will work on miniSD too?