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Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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How about making a shortcut of the programs to Windows/Start Menu/Programs ?
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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YES... its same problem here .......
cheers
indra9110
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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I hear about Universal that not work good with all memory
maybe it work good with another memory
in the other site i think they sell SanDisk for Athena
i'm not sure
tanX
victoradjei said:
How about making a shortcut of the programs to Windows/Start Menu/Programs ?
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yes i have try that, it works for the first time, after soft restart, all not working again.......such a waste for this miniSDHC, anyway, i have install all my extra program on micro drive, my first impression is it runs faster than miniSDHC for some reason, will do benchmark on these a bit later
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yes i have try that, it works for the first time, after soft restart, all not working again.......such a waste for this miniSDHC, anyway, i have install all my extra program on micro drive, my first impression is it runs faster than miniSDHC for some reason, will do benchmark on these a bit later
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if you install in Micro Drive, battery will be empty sooner
why you don't install on device memory?
Do you try another memory on it?
Arya said:
if you install in Micro Drive, battery will be empty sooner
why you don't install on device memory?
Do you try another memory on it?
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i am not sure how bad the battery will be if i use micro drive, but do you really think install on mini-SD is faster than micro drive?
NO!!, micro drive is much much faster, i have run the benchmark on these two, the micro drive is running at least 5 times faster than my high speed miniSD, and the index score of micro drive is way higher than the fastest file index device in the world (dell dx something). The micro drive also use FAT32 format.
So i guess i will keep my program there for now and see how the battery goes
i did the installation into storage card(transcend 4G mini SDHC)...
and then run the program from program files...
it works well!
parkertseng said:
i did the installation into storage card(transcend 4G mini SDHC)...
and then run the program from program files...
it works well!
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!!!!........really......something strange here. where did you buy yours? is it possible mine one is fake? did you do anything special or just install the normal way?
please say here how much battery work?
before and after use micro driver.
I personally think the problem is of your memory and a say test another memory to see do it work good or no?
Arya said:
please say here how much battery work?
before and after use micro driver.
I personally think the problem is of your memory and a say test another memory to see do it work good or no?
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i have found the problem and solve it, it's to do with the name of the sd card, change it to "Stroage Card" and everything works great. So still, i don't know how much battery it drain for running programs on Micro drive, since all my programs are back to mini-SD now, but it does feel faster when you install in Micro drive i think
wu5262 said:
i have found the problem and solve it, it's to do with the name of the sd card, change it to "Stroage Card" and everything works great. So still, i don't know how much battery it drain for running programs on Micro drive, since all my programs are back to mini-SD now, but it does feel faster when you install in Micro drive i think
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Oh, eyval
it is a good news
but this is a problem that you solve it with this work.
tanX
So we can't rename SDcard to install programs on it...
cornelius said:
So we can't rename SDcard to install programs on it...
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that's exactly how i solve my problem, just rename the SD Card and everything is fine
Thanks for all info, i ask for permition to write on athena's wiki all info i get from athena's thread.
cornelius said:
Thanks for all info, i ask for permition to write on athena's wiki all info i get from athena's thread.
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I think this is a good way and find info is easire
tanX
wu5262 said:
Ok, this is quite a bad news, i put my new Transcend 4GB miniSDHC card in my Athena, it shows up in the memory setting. You can put file and read file ok. But here is the problem, when you install the programs on miniSD, it install ok, but after you try to read it from start menu, it says either some file is missing or the program is not digitally signed!
It's not just one program, all my program which install on miniSD doesn't work, if you use file explorer to click the program, it works.....but not through start menu.
Anyone knows what's going on? I am now going to reinstall all these program in Micro Drive, not sure if that's going to cause slow reading speed or more power drain, but it's the only option now for me.
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I got the same problem on my Dopod U1000 with TOSHIBA 2GB mini-SD, sometime the memory card is readable but the file structure is broken it case some software can not run after reset the device all resume to normal.
I think it is not only the SDHC problem.
simdao said:
I got the same problem on my Dopod U1000 with TOSHIBA 2GB mini-SD, sometime the memory card is readable but the file structure is broken it case some software can not run after reset the device all resume to normal.
I think it is not only the SDHC problem.
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it's not SDHC, it's the name of the SD card, you have to rename it Storage Card, otherwise software won't work
I have always retained the original name for my SD card (Storage Card), but on three occasions so far, the file structure and name were garbed when viewed with file explorer, or were simply missing. In one instance, I was editing an excel spreadsheet and suddenly found that I could not save it. I was forced to first save into the device,reset the device, then transfer the spreadsheet back to the storage card. I read from other forum that I'm not alone in having to reset to regain the Storage Card data.
Perhaps there is a bug in the ROM, Wu?
I haven't actually installed any programs on my 4 GB mini-SDHC card, but I have no problems running programs on the card. I've created shortcuts to Transport Tycoon, ScummVM and PTGmap and they're all running fine on the card...
Well, to everybody that uses ANY miniSD (-512-1gb-2gb-4gb....however, NO SDHC are supported!), try this!
Note:
You MUST have an PC-side miniSD reader
You MUST have...a P3600 and a miniSD
DO NOT INSERT miniSD into PDA until is indicated.....
-Prepare the PDA:
Goto Start-> Programs-> ActiveSync
Open the ActiveSync's "Option" menu
Goto "Add Server" etc...
Fill the text boxes with ANY (fake) data.....do not import...you simply need to tap on "next"....
When you finish (tap on "Finish"), a fake Exhange Server Connection appears
Go back to ActiveSync main screen, tap on "Option"
NOW you can tap on "planning" (i think that the correct traslation from italian is this...)
Set both preferences to "Manually"
Tap "OK" (upper right corner...)
Go back again to ActiveSync's main screen
Tap again on the "Option" menu
Select the (fake) Exhange Server Connection and DELETE it
Now you need to edit the registry.....
(Istruction to edit the registry FROM PDA w/ software like "PHM Registry Editor")
Any security restriction OFF:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies]
Change the DWORD named "1005" to 40
Change the DWORD named "1001" to 1
Change the DWORD named "101a" to 1
Registry from Hive to File
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\ObjectStore]
Change the DWORD named "RegistryType" to 0
SD issue fix
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager]
Change the DWORD named "PNPUnloadDelay" to 8196
Change the DWORD named "PNPWaitIODelay" to 8196
NOW, soft-reset the PDA !!
-Prepare the miniSD:
Download the "Panasonic SD format Tools" (its freeware, you can find it on the net...) and install it on your desktop
Put the miniSd into the PC-side reader
Format the miniSD using the "Panasonic Tool"
NOW, ONLY NOW, JUST NOW......you can insert the miniSD into the P3600 and star to using !!!
ANY miniSD (-512-1gb-2gb-4gb....however, NO SDHC are supported!)
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Humm, never had a issue with miniSD, I used to use a 2gb sandisk, and I now use a mobymemory 4gb, as it can be seen on the attached video the 4gb also works nicely without modifying anything.
sounds great.
Can someoe confirm what this solutions is doing.
Why do you have to prepare the PDA ??
jjplayground said:
Why do you have to prepare the PDA ??
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to fix an ActiveSync bug and improve stability in WM5
Buy yesterday the 4 GB version works perfect on my P3600 without any trick or patch
Heijdemann said:
Buy yesterday the 4 GB version works perfect on my P3600 without any trick or patch
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It will be interesting to see how many of these 4gb cards last longer than 4 months. Read this thread for more info...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302639
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It will be interesting to see how many of these 4gb cards last longer than 4 months. Read this thread for more info...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302639
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That is exactly what I'm looking out for, I think I'll stick with my 2GB until 4GB is properly confirmed...I know Matterhorn has been using it for ages now, but still, I used a 4GB SD on my iPaq for 6 months before it died.
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It will be interesting to see how many of these 4gb cards last longer than 4 months. Read this thread for more info...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302639
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I agree. I had 4gb MobyMemory card and it's fine until you get over 2gb of data on it. Now I have 2 x 2gb Sandisc cards and had no problems so far but it has only been a week. I did write them in diferent card readers a few times but still fine.
any comments?
A question......i'll try to DISABLE the "writing" on memory card....just to test an idea.....
somebody know how i can do it??
Maybe COVERING a pin.....or a registry hack...
Please, helpme!
The only problem I have is that I can not see the card in a USB card reader/writer (works a lot faster with maps and movies etc. with the external USB reader/writer)
Hi, my micro drive keeps coroupting, it happen a few days ago were it said there was no space left although it was only half full, I looked in it with file exploror, all the file and folder names were coroupt. I then hard reset and formated the drive and back to normal then the same happened today, I noticed as Live search kicked up and error on startup so I looked in exploror and all the file names wee croupt and no space soft reset and I've lost 90% of my data on the drive bt it says in setings -- memory that I have about 50% free space (what there should be if all my files where there) but I can't access them does anyone have any ideas how what bor why this is happening?
Pocket Mechanic
I have had this problem ones. I was defragmenting my MicroDrive with Pocket Mechanic and I think that it went corrupt when somen huge files were defragmented. I did a low level format wit Pocket Mechanic and since ten I did not have this problem. I have read that you could also try to format the MicroDrive with WMStorage with your desktop. It works better than te format function of the Athena itself.
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Hi, my micro drive keeps coroupting, it happen a few days ago were it said there was no space left although it was only half full, I looked in it with file exploror, all the file and folder names were coroupt. I then hard reset and formated the drive and back to normal then the same happened today, I noticed as Live search kicked up and error on startup so I looked in exploror and all the file names wee croupt and no space soft reset and I've lost 90% of my data on the drive bt it says in setings -- memory that I have about 50% free space (what there should be if all my files where there) but I can't access them does anyone have any ideas how what bor why this is happening?
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which machine are you using? Ameo, DOPOD U1000 or HTC Advantage?
HTC Advantage
myrapid said:
HTC Advantage
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um....HTC Advantage seems to have a higher chance for this to happen, i have heard someone said there is some recall on this device, but still i can't get that confirm from the official. All i can say is don't put your important data in MD, install all your extra programs to SD not MD.
I use my MD to store music, movie and photo only.
I heard that HTC released later it's X7500 just to solve some problems with microdrive occurred on Ameo. That's very strange. How ever it's really tragic if I cuoldn't use micro drive for important document storage. It's one of the main reasons why I bought it...
P.S. I'm using microdrive for applications, Pictures an Video, I thought that it could be faster and safer than mini sd...
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I heard that HTC released later it's X7500 just to solve some problems with microdrive occurred on Ameo. That's very strange. How ever it's really tragic if I cuoldn't use micro drive for important document storage. It's one of the main reasons why I bought it...
P.S. I'm using microdrive for applications, Pictures an Video, I thought that it could be faster and safer than mini sd...
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you should really save your application on sd card, because it will save you more battery, yes MD does run faster but i have heard at least 7 user now report they have file loss or MD issue, so you should try to avoid saving important doc in MD. i have never heard people report that file loss in sd so it seems to be a better place for storing important data
Ive been reading posts on other threads in the forums, and it appears some users have had the same issue with SD cards on other devices, Although knobody has Id's the problem yet.
myrapid said:
Ive been reading posts on other threads in the forums, and it appears some users have had the same issue with SD cards on other devices, Although knobody has Id's the problem yet.
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some had problem with SD? you mind posting the link? i have read through all the post in Athena, don't seems to remember someone mention this
Well, on my Dopod U1000, I have twice experienced the scenario whereby my miniSD shows gibberish characters in File Explorer. I have to soft-reset my device in order for things to go back to normal. I still have no clue what could have gone wrong as I have only installed MapKing and pRSSreader on the miniSD.
Anyway, one of the things I will do this weekend is to reformat the miniSD on my laptop.
wu5262 said:
you should really save your application on sd card, because it will save you more battery, yes MD does run faster but i have heard at least 7 user now report they have file loss or MD issue, so you should try to avoid saving important doc in MD. i have never heard people report that file loss in sd so it seems to be a better place for storing important data
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I'm planning a travel very soon and I thought to use MD to store pictures and videos I will take. So you advice me to use MiniSD for apps and MD for pics, movies and music? I was also thinking about to buy a portable Hard Disk to dowload every day what is stored on MD. What do you think about it?
Where do you think it could be safe to store tomtom maps?
THX 4 your replay...
asci said:
I'm planning a travel very soon and I thought to use MD to store pictures and videos I will take. So you advice me to use MiniSD for apps and MD for pics, movies and music? I was also thinking about to buy a portable Hard Disk to dowload every day what is stored on MD. What do you think about it?
Where do you think it could be safe to store tomtom maps?
THX 4 your replay...
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personally, i will suggest you to install app in SD, tomtom map should be in SD as well, this way you can save more battery. Store only music and old and movie on MD. These file are large so they should be in MD , and if MD is loss, these data are not important as well, you can transfer again from computer.
Now for the new photo you take by the camera, store them i n SD, organize them then you can store a copy in MD.
Follow the above suggestion, you should then have no problem with all your files, app and data, and it gives you a longer usage time as well
wu5262 said:
... yes MD does run faster ...
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Is this right - My MicroDrive takes longer to do a file listing in File Explorer than the memory or an SD card?
Also, I seem now to have developed a MicroDrive directory and my MD is now called MicroDrive2. The only thing in the MicroDrive directory is an empty directory for email attachments. How could this have happened?
@wu5262
I will follow your suggestions, so I will HR my device and format microdrive and MiniSD as well. Any news about 4gb MiniSd support?
PS I will leave in july...I hope WM06 upgrade will be available as soon as possible...maybe should I wait for it before Hresetting?
About MicroDrive format do I follow procedure within Hreset, when it asks to do Hreset and MD format both?
apd said:
Also, I seem now to have developed a MicroDrive directory and my MD is now called MicroDrive2. The only thing in the MicroDrive directory is an empty directory for email attachments. How could this have happened?
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Did you happen to move your messaging folder from \Windows to the MicroDrive?
chrisoyh said:
Did you happen to move your messaging folder from \Windows to the MicroDrive?
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No - I did ask Outlook to store attachments on the Storage Card (before I had inserted an SD card). I wanted attachments to be on the MD.
Also, I've just noticed I have a directory for attachments on my MD as well!!! I have no idea what is going on.
Do I have to hard reset? (I'm beginning to think my Universal was a lot easier to live with!!!)
asci said:
@wu5262
I will follow your suggestions, so I will HR my device and format microdrive and MiniSD as well. Any news about 4gb MiniSd support?
PS I will leave in july...I hope WM06 upgrade will be available as soon as possible...maybe should I wait for it before Hresetting?
About MicroDrive format do I follow procedure within Hreset, when it asks to do Hreset and MD format both?
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wm6 Upgrade isn't coming that soon, no official date yet. All we know is summer, and usually there is a delay. I am using transcend miniSDHC 4GB, it works well on my machine, no problem at all.
When you hard restart, it will ask you whether you want to format the MD, just click yes. I have heard other people saying using other tools to format MD is better, but i have had no problem with the default tool in our machine
I've had the same problem. Won't make the same mistake twice.
I tried to defrag the HD with Pocket Mechanic but it found errors on the HD. So I ran scandisk. Scandisk fixed the problems and when I went back to defrag it locked up and programs wouldn't run and I lost data. Just sucks.
I have since installed all programs to my 4gig miniSD card and am only using the HD for temporary storage.
Hope this isn't an ongoing problem because I paid a lot for this device.
wu5262 said:
some had problem with SD? you mind posting the link? i have read through all the post in Athena, don't seems to remember someone mention this
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303092
the thread is about storage card corruption on a Hermes, but it is identical to what i have been getting on the athena. - the screen shot on the first post looks just like my device looked when it went bad.
myrapid said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303092
the thread is about storage card corruption on a Hermes, but it is identical to what i have been getting on the athena. - the screen shot on the first post looks just like my device looked when it went bad.
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well, we are not really talking about Hermes here, i think the issue is a bit different here, since the MD issue happens more often on the HTC Advantage until instead of others, and personally, i think the Athena's ROM is far more stable then Hermes.
Hi all...
for the 3rd time, all data on my Transcend 2GB minisd card disappeared, and again with the same "symptoms" : first some strange jibberish letters appear in new directories, then all the dirs become unreadable..
I managed to recover some data, unfortunately not all of it, but now I'm trying to find a way to prevent this very irritating known issue of our trinities I always made a soft-reset whenever I couldn't access the card anymore, or whenever i noticed any strange behavior, and this worked fine until this case..
Anyway, do you have any recommendation on what's the best way to format the minisd card?? I'm unable of formatting it inside the Trinity, I don't know how to do it (if there is such a method), and strange enough, the card reader embedded in my laptop isn't reading the card at all
Is there a way to format the card inside the trinity?
I have the exact same problem with my sdhc 4gb card and I was about to ask the exact same question. What are the best formatting options to use?
filesystem fat16? fat32?
block size? 4? 8?
etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267475&highlight=partition
@Rudgear: unfortunately it didn't work
Great I tried formatting it using a card reader and using the Panasonic software for formatting SD cards, and now I can't do anything with the card . It still recognizes it both on the PC and on the trinity, but I can't format it again, because it says it is copy protected or something like this
What can be done now?? Is there a program for low-level format or something like that???
pocket mechanic ?
Rudegar said:
pocket mechanic ?
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Nothing It still tells me that the card is write-protected or something like this.
any other ideas?
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Nothing It still tells me that the card is write-protected or something like this.
any other ideas?
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Can you use RESCO File Explorer for format?
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Can you use RESCO File Explorer for format?
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It actually makes a format, I mean it gives a msg of successful format, but eventually nothing changes
It's a known problem for so long - it seems quite unrelated to fat16/fat32/cluster size. It has been reported for corruption problem for many of th combination. It has been discussed too many times here. Do a search and it would turn up some solutions for you.
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It's a known problem for so long - it seems quite unrelated to fat16/fat32/cluster size. It has been reported for corruption problem for many of th combination. It has been discussed too many times here. Do a search and it would turn up some solutions for you.
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I know what you are talking about, but the problem now is the card itself, and not how it works on the trinity. The card is simply corrupted right now, I can't do anything with it, even not format it to use it as a normal card on other devices!!
Anybody knows a low level DOS format program??
Anyone noticed the same?
When I brows the storage card with Total Commander the files are read real slow by the system.
You can literly see them popup one by one!
I mean when opening a directory on Storage card I must wait a very long time untill all files are vissible!
My opinion is that this has something to do with the device freezes.
Please confirm if you have simular problem?
Thank you,
Leo
Laurentius26 said:
Anyone noticed the same?
When I brows the storage card with Total Commander the files are read real slow by the system.
You can literly see them popup one by one!
I mean when opening a directory on Storage card I must wait a very long time untill all files are vissible!
My opinion is that this has something to do with the device freezes.
Please confirm if you have simular problem?
Thank you,
Leo
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i have never had this problem. You can look up the cab that speeds up your storage card and see if that fixes it. I saw it on here yesterday I believe.
I think there are three possibilities:
1) Your card is defective.
2) You did not format it with the correct parameter.
3) You have a defective reader in your device.
Do a benchmark using sktool to see if your read write speed is within the normal range.
Thank you,
It must be the storage card that came with the device.
Some files are inaccesable, also when I put it in my usb adapter my desktop doesn't read the storage card.
I lost a lot of data I think!
Maybe formatting the card will help.
Grtz,
Leo
eaglesteve said:
I think there are three possibilities:
1) Your card is defective.
2) You did not format it with the correct parameter.
3) You have a defective reader in your device.
Do a benchmark using sktool to see if your read write speed is within the normal range.
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