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Has anyone tried TomTom 6 ?
hi, yes i have tried it and i am a bit confused due to the problem i am experiencing. when i start tomtom 6 on my mda pro everything is ok , but, it dosnt work in landscape mode..i mean i does in landscape left-handed but it doesnt work in landscape right-handed mode, why is that , is there anyway to fix this problem. have a look at screens on the website:
http://pocketsoft.1500mb.com/
cheers, cudo
Anyone knows where to get the TomTom 6 yet?
I got it running and all fine.. also i am right handed....I can honestly say that this is the best navigation software out there as yet!! .....great stuff but no inbuilt screen rotation like the last version???.... apart from that AWESOME!!
wbr
Is it much different from 5.2?
What new features are there? Is it faster?
MUCH faster, it loads in less thatn half the time on my Blueangel
Midget_1990 said:
MUCH faster, it loads in less thatn half the time on my Blueangel
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Back to Universals...
On the Exec:
No noticeable change in startup time. Slightly quicker if its already been used that day.
I would say it is slightly slower navigating in 3d mode than 5.21, particularly off the motorway (i.e. where it has more to draw). However it is faster than the sluggish 5.00. (5.21 was super smooth)
Not sure if it's due to the massive map file containing all western europe, as opposed to a lone UK map.
Left and Right hand landscape seem to work ok. I had some screen issues after installing & running tt6 without soft-reseting the Exec.
After soft-reset, was working fine.
Navigating through the options/setup menu windows is slightly sluggish too. Buttons seem to need a firmer (longer?) press to register and action the change/change pages etc. Sometimes the buttons will be highlighted, indicating it knows you pressed it, but not actually do anything.
I miss the sharp, quick response of the 5.21 menus.
This might cause problems whilst trying to quickly change setting/change destination whilst driving.
i was really hopping that the lanscape refresh was fixed in this version but it's not. Just have to live with it.
Hi, can anybody tell me where I can buy TOMTOM6, been look very hard and cannot find anywhere, cheer in advance
Hi, is any body willing to send me the TomTom6 files as I still cannot download them.
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53454&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
download the files from this ftp site :wink:
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That`s a dead link mate.
IE Link: ftp://xda+pcsmart24.com:[email protected]/
After clicking that link enter the username: [email protected] and the password: developers
try this then
Still a dead link!!
uh strange try this post in the forum then and scroll down to the 15th reply
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=354321#354321
1st page of that thread 15th reply down
Are maps newer in version 6 vs version 5.2, or is the update just software?
Thanks.
BillB said:
Are maps newer in version 6 vs version 5.2, or is the update just software?
Thanks.
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not sure if they're updated, but its still trying to navigate through several roads which have been blocked off for more than a year (in some cases since 2000) in Brum n West midlands...so as far as i am concerned its the same old maps.
Further to my previous post about speed of tt6:
When only using the "GB map with major roads of western europe"...it runs a little faster (3d nav + flicking through the menus), than when i was using the 800+MB map with all of western europe.
I still think 5.21 was smoother / more responsive in menus.
hate to think how it will run with the map of US which is > 1GB
tomtom 6
I have the tomtom6 running the GB plus map. it defenitely starts up quicker and the map is updated with new roads
Apparently, the older v5 maps are not compatible with this new v6. However, as far as i can ascertain, the POI are compatible so that is handy. I will try loading those later to check for myself.
Regarding the problems some are having. I also find the start up time has been vastly improved in this version. I only loaded the GB maps so cannot vouch for the speed of a full western europe installation. However, i can definately say that the speed with this version is quicker than v5 maps.
As for the "Rotate" function, this is correct, it has been removed from v6. Why this is so i have absolutely no idea, as i found this feature not only useful, but it became absolutely essential. Due to the car holder, i have to use the Universal in landscape mode and rotated 180*. Therefore, i have to make sure that the screen is rotated the correct way before starting tomtom. TomTom will use the orientation that the Universal is set at upon startup, so if you forget, you have to close it, rotate the screen and then restart tomtom again!
Initially, this was a major pain. But i can assure everyone that it is amazing how quickly you will adapt and remember to set the orientation before using the tomtom. I really thought that it was going to be a major problem and was about to revert back to v5. Thankfully i stuck with it as it is a better product than v5 imho.
If you like this version, i recommend supporting tomtom by purchasing this fine release, thereby ensuring the continued development of the TomTOm PDA releases!
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Ok.. I'm so confused.
I just got a US version of the HTC Dual Touch from Best Buy. Apparently it's not even a Nike device. It's a Neon.
The only reason I know that is because I donwloaded and tried to installed the HTC Keyboard patch and it of course told me the patch was for Nike devices.
Regardless.. the problem I'm having is that in some applications, I cannot get the application to recognize the 20 key keyboard. What I mean is that it only registers numeric keys and the 1st letter of the other keys. So I can type 0-9, q, a, z, o, l, del, enter.
I've tried holding down the SYM key to get it to switch to another text entry mode and it won't.
The biggest problem I'm having is that my company uses Good Mobile Messaging. That means my email, calendar and address book are all served up through the Good suite of apps. And these apps won't recognize the keyboard properly.
I've also noticed this same problem using both the Windows Live and Google Search home screen plugins. They won't recognize the keyboard either.
Keyboard apps like TouchPal seem to work but I bought the dual to get the suretype keyboard.
Any ideas?
Your right.
Never noticed it because i don´t use those apps frequently. Maybe some Niki users could let us know if they ave the same issue.
I have the same problem as well. Got my Touch Dual from Best Buy. Found that the keyboard does not work in Goodlink and some other applications. Exactly the same symptoms reported by adamrogers. I'm disappointed to say the least.
Tried the keyboard patch from HTC's website and ran into the same "this is not a Nike" issue.
This may or may not help, but as soon a I uninstalled PCM Keyboard it was fine and was back to normal. I have not tried the mentioned apps though.
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This may or may not help, but as soon a I uninstalled PCM Keyboard it was fine and was back to normal. I have not tried the mentioned apps though.
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So you are able to use the keyboard in apps like "Windows Live Search" from the Home Screen plugin?
I'm not even sure what PCM Keyboard is so unless it was already installed when I got the device, I don't have it installed.
It's just that stupid program from htc wich lets you choose what input to be used, (as far as i recon) the dual won't let you select the right input if you haven't selected a genuine wm textfield (like in opera 9.x, and the above mentioned apps). In my case, i can only enter numbers. Its a shame that htc uses a kind of software that doesn't recognizes those textfields...
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So you are able to use the keyboard in apps like "Windows Live Search" from the Home Screen plugin?
I'm not even sure what PCM Keyboard is so unless it was already installed when I got the device, I don't have it installed.
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PCM Keyboard is an aftermarket keyboard it seems to confuse the device. I ended up using a cab from htc that disables xt9 and am much happier now...
UPDATE_ I just tried and it does not help when I enable the windows live plugin and try to search... Numbers still... Dang Google plugin works fine though
UPDATE_ I just tried and it does not help when I enable the windows live plugin and try to search... Numbers still... Dang Google plugin works fine though
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Weird.. Google plugin doesn't work for me. Do you have the 20-key? If so, it sounds like that CAB automatically enables ABC keyboard. Maybe they can make a CAB that enables XT9 by default. Who did you contact or where did you go to get that CAB?
Hi
Having tried TomTom 7, Copilot and the "try before buy" Navigon; I found all to be wanting in some way. I have not tried: Garmin XT is fixed to a SD card - I don't want to swop cards; IGO 8 looks good but seems to require lots of fixes.
Is there a GPS application (not google or similar online app) that just works from the box or cab ?
I like the google app but I don't like the high data rates which could get expensive when I'm roaming.
I just want a GPS app that has its own maps on my SD card (16 gbyte card so loads of space available). Does this really exist ?
When I check the official GPS provider sites (e.g., TomTom and Copilot) then they say their product is not compatible with the HTC HD - I guess that explains all the various hoops people have to jump through to get an app working.
I suspect I have to wait until spring next year for the app companies to provide a working HD compatible version ? Or, does anyone know better ??
Thanks & holiday greetings to all, Dave.
You can't compare Google Maps with a navigation solution like TomTom, IGo or Navigon. Google Maps is just showing the area around your current position, whereas the other programs can navigate you through the country.
As far as I know TomTom works just without any work, all others need to be configurated. How to do that is mentioned in the various threads here, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.
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Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
Well I can use google to navigate as it has a "show directions" option. I know it is not as sophisticated as the other GPS apps.
My problem with google is it needs a data link which gets expensive when I'm out of my home country (hence need often a GPS) because I have to make a gprs link to have google working.
TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
Thanks anyway for answering.
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Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
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I never heard Google Maps talking to me something like "in 400 metres turn left". Maybe I missed something .
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TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
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Then you will have to try get IGo8 or Navigon working.
Here is a new app - anyone use this successfully on the HD ?
http://directions.ltd.uk/pda-navigation/pocket-navigator-8-europe
Does CoPilot work on the HD?
I've got Version 6 currently on my XDA Orbit & was thinking of upgrading
Garmin Mobile XT works great on my HD
Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
I also gave Garmin XT a try.
One problem though, up until now, i am feeling that there is Lag or the cpu is not following up too fast to show changes, so if i am making a turn in a roundabout, you can see a strange thing happen on the screen.
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Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
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Thanks davast. I actually got a copy of CoPilot which was sold to me as CoPilot7 for windows mobile. It turned out to be the specific version for the HTC Diamond.
I think I will wait for the new version and double check this time that the supplier knows what they are doing.
Regards, D.
What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
I'm going to try a new one when I get a minute, beta atm but works on my hacked Hermes to wm6.1 and is nice
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What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
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Hi Gulioth, I received version 7 "for the HTC Diamond" which will only load to the internal storage of the Diamond - hence, I returned it as this would not work on the HD.
I don't know the specific current version other than "7". If you have CoPilot Central then you should be able to find it. Unfortunately with the Diamond version there also is no copy of the CoPilot Central.
I have returned the Diamond version and I'm sitting waiting for someone (PLEASE !!) to make a legally correct version work.
If you check here: http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/compatibility.asp you can see that ALK says the HD is not yet compatible.
I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
Thanks - that's a new one to me - I will investigate "on course navigation"
Ciao, Dave
Route 66 Version 7 works sweeet for me
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I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
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Hmmm - this seems to be only USA & Canada according to their site:
Map Coverage USA and Canada.
The latest maps and up-to-date points of interest for United States. Full road coverage with over 10 443 000 kilometers of updated roads, and over 12.3 millions points of interest. Includes maps of Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico.
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/ocn8_intro.aspx
I did not specify in my original question that I'm based in Europe.
I'm looking for a legally correct GPS application that works "out-of-the box" or direct from the cab without having to tweak xml files or anything else and which is recognised by the software provider as compatible and acceptable. TomTom and CoPilot do not yet list the HD as a compatible device. I also don't want a software that is linked to one micro SD card (like Garmin XT).
I believe that CoPilot will be the right choice when it is HD compatible. I like also TomTom but it seems so difficult to make it work - there are many threads here about the tricks needed to make maps work. I do have TomTom running but only with the sample map. Trying to get TomTom home to accept the HD and legally download new Maps does not seem legally correct now - maybe next year ...
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Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
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Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
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WOW - this seems to be a first, a GPS app that claims the HTC HD is compatible:
http://www.66.com/route66/index.php?cid=UK&act=1&prodid=5723
Normally I`m using Navigon but Copilot is much faster and is getting quicker a fix...but it always stopps when the HD2 - after 1 minute - stopps. With Navigon it doesn`t stopp - do I have to change it in Copilot software or at HD2 ?
How content are you with Copilot generally?
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Normally I`m using Navigon but Copilot is much faster and is getting quicker a fix...but it always stopps when the HD2 - after 1 minute - stopps. With Navigon it doesn`t stopp - do I have to change it in Copilot software or at HD2 ?
How content are you with Copilot generally?
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If you mean it goes into standby, you can turn that off in the settings in Copilot. (It's in menu, settings, backlight).
If you don't mean that, can you explain a bit more?
Great - sorry I missed it !
Another question:
How do I get more POI`s ?
Are you content with Copilot =
To be honest, I've only used it a couple of times. I've always been a TomTom user, but Copilot is so cheap that I'm probably gonna get it. I don't really use POIs either. I simply use it for getting from A to B!
For that, it's nicer than TomTom. It looks better and seems more accurate (despite the fact that accuracy is probably very little to do with software, and more the GPS!)
I also like the pinch-to-zoom in it. It just looks really nice.
Copilot is much better than Navigon and of course TT !
How about your experineces ?
Sorry to hijack this thread slightly (!), but can Copilot be used for navigating on foot?
I am a TomTom user via PNDs in vehicles normally, and would only ever really use my phone to navigate if I was on foot - for this TomTom is no good with.
Also, on a related topic, does Copilot make use of the built-in electronic compass - ie. does it know which way you are facing before you start moving (again a key thing when navigating on foot!)?
Thanks in advance!
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Sorry to hijack this thread slightly (!), but can Copilot be used for navigating on foot?
I am a TomTom user via PNDs in vehicles normally, and would only ever really use my phone to navigate if I was on foot - for this TomTom is no good with.
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Yes it can, also by automobile, motorcycle, bicycle and RV (whatever that is).
I don't think it does work with the built-in compass, which is probably no bad thing as the compass is not that accurate.
I've been using CoPilot Live for two years now and I find it excellent. On the HD2 screen it's brilliant and is very smooth with the fast processor. Don't forget to also download CoPilot Central Live which is a desktop application that lets you plan your routing on your PC and send it to the phone & vice versa. You can download it for free HERE although you'll only get the most out of it if you have CoPilot installed on your phone. Have a look at the CoPilot User Manual HERE[url].
For the money, it's a superb bit bit of software.
Edit: Sorry, my mistake. You could do planning on version 1 of CoPilot Central but it seems they've removed that on version 2. But you can still plan journeys on the desktop using Google Earth and import them via CoPilot Central version 2 though in KML format..
Purchased yesterday, and for the price, cant fault it.
CoPilot 8 Live Au
I've been using it for 2 weeks and like it. Pinch to zoom is great and the graphics are better than TT.
The trial allowed me to download an Au map but unfortunately I can't purchase it here in Aus so I've loaded TT7.
Will buy Copilot 8 when it becomes available here if the price is right.
Copilot 7 was outrageous at over $200Au.
Had co-pilot since 3.5 days.
It has always had odd issues just as Tom Tom (I used the latter when it was Palmtop Route Planner and City Maps for Psion and Palm) has ... dodgy post codes and some addresses and sometimes very odd routing.
It is a shame that they have removed the old desktop s/w ... but given I have the full CPL6 ... I still have that.
In 8, it also appears that the free traffic camera integration from PocketGPS is missing ... I think they are going to charge for that when available in the UK.
I love the fact that in 8, you get speed indication for the road you are on. It probably isn't completely accurate ... but a nice touch.
It is prettier ... but slightly less configurable than previous versions.
Lock with the HD2 is incredible ... 7 satellites in my study when I used to struggle for a lock with the TyTNII ... not sure how HTC have managed that.
As someone else mentioned ... for the cost .... it seems mad not to enable it. I have 7" Sat Nav in both my cars ... so I don't need it unless I'm in someone else's car ... but it's still worth it for planning routes.
Perhaps the best thing is it's ability to have multiple stops. This can be used to guide CPL not to use stupid routes.
Paul.
Hi
Sorry to jump in here, but can anyone who has Copilot for Europe tell me if the Canary Islands are included please?
Thanks
QWERTY and Contacts search?
I'm agreeing that for the price it seems like a winner. I too am a TomTom user and have sat nav in all the vehicles I use regularly, but well always a nice-to-have!
Two things that I can't figure out with it though:
1) How do I change to a QWERTY keyboard for address entry etc?
2) When I'm searching my contacts - it doesn't actually search - I seem to have to type it in exactly.. can this not be changed?
Thanks.
I want to know if you can change it to QWERTY too.
For the price, you'll struggle to beat it, however I do prefer TomTom, the quick/shortcut button on the screen on TT7 is damned useful..
Also can you change how it plans your route, speed/distance etc the same as on TT?
I'd love to get a QWERTY keyboard on Copilot too! It does bug me when apps have their own keyboards in them. I can't see it happening though. REALLY would love to be wrong in this case though!
I've got a question about CoPilot.
How the heck do you remove it? There is no uninstall option in the Remove Programs
Can you just delete it from the storage card and remove the icons? This seems a bit ham fisted.
I need the space for my TT maps
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I'm agreeing that for the price it seems like a winner. I too am a TomTom user and have sat nav in all the vehicles I use regularly, but well always a nice-to-have!
Two things that I can't figure out with it though:
1) How do I change to a QWERTY keyboard for address entry etc?
2) When I'm searching my contacts - it doesn't actually search - I seem to have to type it in exactly.. can this not be changed?
Thanks.
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1. According to the faq on the website of CoPilot the querty keyboard is planned for one of the updates of CoPilot 8 in the future.
Quote from the FAQ:
Will a Qwerty keyboard be added to CoPilot Live v8?
We currently have a QWERTY keyboard in iPhone and are working to add a QWERTY keyboard via a free update soon to Android and Windows Mobile.
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I bought and activated the trial of Copliot 8 that was on my hd2, and I like it.... I've run it alongside Tomtom too and it sometimes chooses slightly different routes, but it's not failed to get m eto my destination yet. For £24.99 you can't go wrong. However There is a problem that I can't add custome poi's such as the gps pocket camera database... seems to be a bug with a specific version of 8, which is a little annoying.
I bought it when it first appeared in the early beta roms...
I really like it, although bicycle mode does seem to want to send me on some bizarre routes and round the wrong way on roundabouts.
and some streets don't seem to have house numbers (mine included)
I tried Copilot several days in Paris.
What I can say is that this software is really really bad.... Except you like to be lost or are fond of wrong way streets.
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Sorry to jump in here, but can anyone who has Copilot for Europe tell me if the Canary Islands are included please?
Thanks
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I have contacted the customer service about this question and they told me that canary ARE present in europe map.
Are you planning holidays in canary? Me too I'm ready to go in about 15days for 3-4 months in Fuerteventura
Bye
Erik
Hi, got my HD2 last week and love it, so i got a stand-alone GPS unit for christmas, but are thinking about returning it. I got an HD2 right, so i want it to act as a GPS aswell. Tried starting the Copilot app that came witht the phone, but after i choose voice, and starts downloading i get "One or more files could not be unpacked. The corrupted files will be deleted". And the app quits, anyone know a fix to this? And is there other good navigation apps?
Anyone tried tomtom? Its rather expensive but.. ? And does Garmin have one?
Thanks
First thing I'd do is try a fresh install. I have used it without any problems. If it persists id try a fresh install with the updated version. Its not a bad program but its not great imo. They rely way too heavily on people updating the maps for them. I've had about 4 occasions where it led me to a dead end on streets that have been closed of for years. the only thing they got going for them is that they are cheap. Tomtom, garmin, are good programs. tried them both with no problems (although theres a compatibility concern with maps and program version which is annoying on Tomtom). the only reason i really wanted copilot is because they built a version that integrates with the hd2 footprints and navipanel function.
Get the official CoPilot update for the HD2. You can find it here:
http://blog.copilotlive.net/?p=1190
Arhh, update didnt work stille the same irritating error..
Do Garmin excist for Windows mobile? Looks like it's only for BlackBerry?