Normally I`m using Navigon but Copilot is much faster and is getting quicker a fix...but it always stopps when the HD2 - after 1 minute - stopps. With Navigon it doesn`t stopp - do I have to change it in Copilot software or at HD2 ?
How content are you with Copilot generally?
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Normally I`m using Navigon but Copilot is much faster and is getting quicker a fix...but it always stopps when the HD2 - after 1 minute - stopps. With Navigon it doesn`t stopp - do I have to change it in Copilot software or at HD2 ?
How content are you with Copilot generally?
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If you mean it goes into standby, you can turn that off in the settings in Copilot. (It's in menu, settings, backlight).
If you don't mean that, can you explain a bit more?
Great - sorry I missed it !
Another question:
How do I get more POI`s ?
Are you content with Copilot =
To be honest, I've only used it a couple of times. I've always been a TomTom user, but Copilot is so cheap that I'm probably gonna get it. I don't really use POIs either. I simply use it for getting from A to B!
For that, it's nicer than TomTom. It looks better and seems more accurate (despite the fact that accuracy is probably very little to do with software, and more the GPS!)
I also like the pinch-to-zoom in it. It just looks really nice.
Copilot is much better than Navigon and of course TT !
How about your experineces ?
Sorry to hijack this thread slightly (!), but can Copilot be used for navigating on foot?
I am a TomTom user via PNDs in vehicles normally, and would only ever really use my phone to navigate if I was on foot - for this TomTom is no good with.
Also, on a related topic, does Copilot make use of the built-in electronic compass - ie. does it know which way you are facing before you start moving (again a key thing when navigating on foot!)?
Thanks in advance!
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Sorry to hijack this thread slightly (!), but can Copilot be used for navigating on foot?
I am a TomTom user via PNDs in vehicles normally, and would only ever really use my phone to navigate if I was on foot - for this TomTom is no good with.
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Yes it can, also by automobile, motorcycle, bicycle and RV (whatever that is).
I don't think it does work with the built-in compass, which is probably no bad thing as the compass is not that accurate.
I've been using CoPilot Live for two years now and I find it excellent. On the HD2 screen it's brilliant and is very smooth with the fast processor. Don't forget to also download CoPilot Central Live which is a desktop application that lets you plan your routing on your PC and send it to the phone & vice versa. You can download it for free HERE although you'll only get the most out of it if you have CoPilot installed on your phone. Have a look at the CoPilot User Manual HERE[url].
For the money, it's a superb bit bit of software.
Edit: Sorry, my mistake. You could do planning on version 1 of CoPilot Central but it seems they've removed that on version 2. But you can still plan journeys on the desktop using Google Earth and import them via CoPilot Central version 2 though in KML format..
Purchased yesterday, and for the price, cant fault it.
CoPilot 8 Live Au
I've been using it for 2 weeks and like it. Pinch to zoom is great and the graphics are better than TT.
The trial allowed me to download an Au map but unfortunately I can't purchase it here in Aus so I've loaded TT7.
Will buy Copilot 8 when it becomes available here if the price is right.
Copilot 7 was outrageous at over $200Au.
Had co-pilot since 3.5 days.
It has always had odd issues just as Tom Tom (I used the latter when it was Palmtop Route Planner and City Maps for Psion and Palm) has ... dodgy post codes and some addresses and sometimes very odd routing.
It is a shame that they have removed the old desktop s/w ... but given I have the full CPL6 ... I still have that.
In 8, it also appears that the free traffic camera integration from PocketGPS is missing ... I think they are going to charge for that when available in the UK.
I love the fact that in 8, you get speed indication for the road you are on. It probably isn't completely accurate ... but a nice touch.
It is prettier ... but slightly less configurable than previous versions.
Lock with the HD2 is incredible ... 7 satellites in my study when I used to struggle for a lock with the TyTNII ... not sure how HTC have managed that.
As someone else mentioned ... for the cost .... it seems mad not to enable it. I have 7" Sat Nav in both my cars ... so I don't need it unless I'm in someone else's car ... but it's still worth it for planning routes.
Perhaps the best thing is it's ability to have multiple stops. This can be used to guide CPL not to use stupid routes.
Paul.
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Sorry to jump in here, but can anyone who has Copilot for Europe tell me if the Canary Islands are included please?
Thanks
QWERTY and Contacts search?
I'm agreeing that for the price it seems like a winner. I too am a TomTom user and have sat nav in all the vehicles I use regularly, but well always a nice-to-have!
Two things that I can't figure out with it though:
1) How do I change to a QWERTY keyboard for address entry etc?
2) When I'm searching my contacts - it doesn't actually search - I seem to have to type it in exactly.. can this not be changed?
Thanks.
I want to know if you can change it to QWERTY too.
For the price, you'll struggle to beat it, however I do prefer TomTom, the quick/shortcut button on the screen on TT7 is damned useful..
Also can you change how it plans your route, speed/distance etc the same as on TT?
I'd love to get a QWERTY keyboard on Copilot too! It does bug me when apps have their own keyboards in them. I can't see it happening though. REALLY would love to be wrong in this case though!
I've got a question about CoPilot.
How the heck do you remove it? There is no uninstall option in the Remove Programs
Can you just delete it from the storage card and remove the icons? This seems a bit ham fisted.
I need the space for my TT maps
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I'm agreeing that for the price it seems like a winner. I too am a TomTom user and have sat nav in all the vehicles I use regularly, but well always a nice-to-have!
Two things that I can't figure out with it though:
1) How do I change to a QWERTY keyboard for address entry etc?
2) When I'm searching my contacts - it doesn't actually search - I seem to have to type it in exactly.. can this not be changed?
Thanks.
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1. According to the faq on the website of CoPilot the querty keyboard is planned for one of the updates of CoPilot 8 in the future.
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Will a Qwerty keyboard be added to CoPilot Live v8?
We currently have a QWERTY keyboard in iPhone and are working to add a QWERTY keyboard via a free update soon to Android and Windows Mobile.
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I bought and activated the trial of Copliot 8 that was on my hd2, and I like it.... I've run it alongside Tomtom too and it sometimes chooses slightly different routes, but it's not failed to get m eto my destination yet. For £24.99 you can't go wrong. However There is a problem that I can't add custome poi's such as the gps pocket camera database... seems to be a bug with a specific version of 8, which is a little annoying.
I bought it when it first appeared in the early beta roms...
I really like it, although bicycle mode does seem to want to send me on some bizarre routes and round the wrong way on roundabouts.
and some streets don't seem to have house numbers (mine included)
I tried Copilot several days in Paris.
What I can say is that this software is really really bad.... Except you like to be lost or are fond of wrong way streets.
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Sorry to jump in here, but can anyone who has Copilot for Europe tell me if the Canary Islands are included please?
Thanks
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I have contacted the customer service about this question and they told me that canary ARE present in europe map.
Are you planning holidays in canary? Me too I'm ready to go in about 15days for 3-4 months in Fuerteventura
Bye
Erik
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Hi folkes
I've just purchased a GPS (bluetooth) receiver for my Hermes/SPVm3100 and I was wondering what good software there is out there that I can get/use to make the most of it.
I've got Google maps and Live search which both work really well finding locations with GPS but would like something else/better.
Any comments much appreciated
Regards
JON
I would have to recommend TomTom - it's probably a predictable response, but for a reason
I've tried Navigon and really didn't like - I couldn't find an easy way to browse the map and just find the place I wanted to go to and it ran a bit slow for my taste.
TomTom is the only choice in my opinion (though, the iGO software looks quite cool too but i don't think there's any UK maps as yet
Cheers,
Smiffy.
The best software are : TomTom, I-Go and Route66
Check them out and pick one that suites you the best
P.S. Don`t get me wrong but this has nothing to do with WM6, this should be in Hermes General IMHO
another vote for tomtom. i like route66 but the map size is huge, compared to tomtom
Which GPS receiver did you get..and do you like it or have any issues with it? Just curious..
I'm using TomTom. It's pretty good.
Hi,
A nod towards Tomtom, i tried a couple of others forgot what, but nothing was as nice to use as tomtom. (despite its anoyances... why can't i decide how far to zoom in, why must tomtom decide it knows best a few seconds after i have set my desired zoom level... "bad tomtom!! bad!"
If you want to use your hemres for off road navigations
(walking, cycling, hiking that kinda thing)
anquet is very good. Its a digital version of the proper Ordiance survey maps, you can now buy it online for just the area you want and download the maps. I wouldn't recomend it instead of a propper map, as a flat battery could leave you stranded but as an extra its fantastic!!!!!
auto centering and tracking 1:25K maps are really nice for hiking off.
(bit pricey though.)
One vote for iGuidance Been using iGuidance for 2 years, version 2 and now i'm on v. 3. They just released v4. But i'm in the US.
my vote is for iguidance v3... just wish it had the traffic feature of tomtom6... tomtom for me lags and has made me miss a turn or 2, but its also got me out of a few traffic jams...
TOM TOM 6 DOES the job for me the maps take up some room but it works 100 percent with wm6
My vote is TomTom as well.
I tried a couple others and they looked like toys compared to TomTom
tomtom is the most used mapping app, it has the best support and features available like pois extra voices but you should be aware there is a known freezing bug on most hermes configs.
iNav v4.0 is completely compatible with WM6 on the 8525. It's been a good prog and v4 added TextToSpeech and more compressed maps. This is US version, don't know of it's Euro version status.
My vote is for iGuidance v3. I've used TomTom 6 but the Maps were really outdated here in Florida. Plus I had issues getting TomTom to pick up my OnCourse GPS. iGuidance worked flawlessly and had a friendlier user interface.
I've had no freeze issue since i went to version 6.0.30
BUT the mute issue is anoying me!
Iguidance is only available for North America mapping isn't it?
TomTom its the best, i tried igo, route66, ndrive, and TomTom, rules.....
Go for it
If you need help, ask me!
I use Tomtom 6. Very easy to use, nice iterface. I won't say I never get a crash, but the crash is usually when turning it on or exiting - it has not let me down mid journey.
Mike
If you can afford it TomTom is very good.. but also worth a look is Smart2GO (I know its Nokia owned but there's a Windows Mobile version)
It uses more up to date maps than TomTom (IMHO), is totally free.. has free updates of any map anytime you want it (updated twice yearly).. full world coverage, maps can be downloaded either via a pc (totally free) or in sections as needed over the air (with data costs of course - but no other charges)
They make the money on addon's.. like navigation by voice which is chargeable (but it works out way way cheaper than TomTom and you can buy a year of UK voice navigation coverage for way less than a single country of TomTom maps.. then when you go on holiday just pay for a week of coverage for that country.. saving a huge amount)
I actually get on well with it and like the fact you can get free map updates whenever you need them.
www.smart2go.com and you can try out the whole lot for free. assuming you dont need voice navigation its free for life.. if you do its dirt cheap.
I am looking for a good set of Scottish/UK maps/application that is wm GPS compatible - designed for walkers/hikers. Tomtom 6 and the likes always tries to jump you onto the nearest road which is pointless if you're on a remote trail.
Mike
I'd look into MemoryMap Mike.. its all Ordenance Survey Licenced maps at varying scales.. and it works fine (is designed for..) for walking/hiking.. It works on WM devices too.. and there are a huge number of maps available as addons.. including themed packs such as hikers guides etc...
Its way more detailed than TomTom, but theres no navigation of course as its a GPS mapping solution not a navigator.
It can even do a very nice 3d view of the landscape based on the OS gradients of the maps.. its very clever stuff.
oh should have added the url
www.memory-map.co.uk the sites a bit of a mess but the mapping is top quality. Theres a few online places doing the software and maps at discount, and you often get good deals at outdoor shows apparently.
Hi to All,
i want to be provocative and make a strong statement to know your opinion:
the conclusion: navigon 7.3.0 is superior in all aspects to TomTom 7.910.
In fact, i am having a very pleasant experience with Navigon after many years of TomTom "study".
In summary, the added benefits which i see:
definitely a clearer graphics, both in 2D and 3D in particular realview and also special highway indications to make driving safer. This includes more information like the turn after the next one.
NavTeq maps are, at least in my area, much more detailed and precise with respect to roads and also speed limits indications are strictly matching the signs!
Richer and more informative POI collection (for example, with the actual logos and graphics for the different fuel stations, supermarkets, etc.etc.)
text to speech by default: in french it is really excellent!
Cheaper: 99 Euros (149 with the 2 years maps subscription) is definitely less than TomTom....if a touch HD owner could buy it!
fix is instantaneous in Navigon: time that the software loads, the gps is already there!
Now the remaining defects of Navigon:
to install it you have to use a mortscript and modified xml files (all listed in other threads)
still, in 800x480 the screen aspect ratio is slightly distorted (see other threads)
exiting from the program is surprisingly slow!
switching from landscape to portrait and viceversa can only be done at startup (actually, i like this behaviour but i am probably the only one...)
Still, the touch HD is not an officially supported device. However, differently from TomTom, they don't try to keep you out and allow freshmaps and synchronization, for example.
Just wanted to propagate my experience, since the small installation issues related to point 1. were somehow keeping me away from this fantastic product. In addition, TomTom pissed me off - since i sincerely tried to buy it and at the end they refunded me since i didn't have an HTC Touch but "only" a Touch HD...e.g. "only" the best PDA ever! Maybe it is too much nicer than TomTom PNA boxes?
...Am i right?
for the speedcam alerts navigon is still a bad solution and even with the mortscript mn7 doesn't run on some hd... igo 8 seems to be the best solution...
i like Navigon but the interface could be improved. I can't see the info because the text is too small which is a problem on my motor bike. Also there is a lot of wasted space in the direction arrow window which could be used better. All the info in the dreaded TomTom is very clear on the motor bike so no stress trying to read the info - I never use voices while driving - would drive me nuts.
Would be nice to see some screen shots of both and other software even for comparison.
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Really? When I'm on my motorcycle, I have my HD in my jacket pocket and use the earphones for voice Nav. I can't imagine navigating the Swiss mountain roads while watching a PDA screen! Anyway, maybe your eyes are faster than mine
I agree
and what about Navigon Vs IGO8??
i think IGO8 is the best navi on pda...
I have Navigon and TomTom installed on my HD. TomTom has all hi res graphics whereas Navigon has some stretched graphics in some places. Maps are hi res in both. However, Navigon has Text to Speech and announce road names whereas TomTom does not. That does it for me
When forced to use mortscript to simply install a program - it can´t be a goot solution anyway. I even had a hard time go get iGO running.
For Navigon, I never used mortscript. Installed fine with WVGA xml files. All works fine, except I get the memory errors. After several taps of the ok button it finally runs ok.
Totally agree...
I'm using Navigon since the version 5 on PDAphone... and it was since the beginning a lot better than Tomtom !!
From my point of view, Tomtom always had the world's ugliest graphical interface...!!
The version 7.450 is still installed on my HD, and the only positive points are the speedy loading time and the Master Yoda’s voice… ;-)
Right now, with the version 7 of Navigon, I'm also a bit disappointed with the too small text... however the maps are a lot more accurate than the Tomtom maps !!
I'm also using iGo 8 sometimes... not bad at all !!
Hi
Having tried TomTom 7, Copilot and the "try before buy" Navigon; I found all to be wanting in some way. I have not tried: Garmin XT is fixed to a SD card - I don't want to swop cards; IGO 8 looks good but seems to require lots of fixes.
Is there a GPS application (not google or similar online app) that just works from the box or cab ?
I like the google app but I don't like the high data rates which could get expensive when I'm roaming.
I just want a GPS app that has its own maps on my SD card (16 gbyte card so loads of space available). Does this really exist ?
When I check the official GPS provider sites (e.g., TomTom and Copilot) then they say their product is not compatible with the HTC HD - I guess that explains all the various hoops people have to jump through to get an app working.
I suspect I have to wait until spring next year for the app companies to provide a working HD compatible version ? Or, does anyone know better ??
Thanks & holiday greetings to all, Dave.
You can't compare Google Maps with a navigation solution like TomTom, IGo or Navigon. Google Maps is just showing the area around your current position, whereas the other programs can navigate you through the country.
As far as I know TomTom works just without any work, all others need to be configurated. How to do that is mentioned in the various threads here, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.
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Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
Well I can use google to navigate as it has a "show directions" option. I know it is not as sophisticated as the other GPS apps.
My problem with google is it needs a data link which gets expensive when I'm out of my home country (hence need often a GPS) because I have to make a gprs link to have google working.
TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
Thanks anyway for answering.
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Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
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I never heard Google Maps talking to me something like "in 400 metres turn left". Maybe I missed something .
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TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
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Then you will have to try get IGo8 or Navigon working.
Here is a new app - anyone use this successfully on the HD ?
http://directions.ltd.uk/pda-navigation/pocket-navigator-8-europe
Does CoPilot work on the HD?
I've got Version 6 currently on my XDA Orbit & was thinking of upgrading
Garmin Mobile XT works great on my HD
Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
I also gave Garmin XT a try.
One problem though, up until now, i am feeling that there is Lag or the cpu is not following up too fast to show changes, so if i am making a turn in a roundabout, you can see a strange thing happen on the screen.
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Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
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Thanks davast. I actually got a copy of CoPilot which was sold to me as CoPilot7 for windows mobile. It turned out to be the specific version for the HTC Diamond.
I think I will wait for the new version and double check this time that the supplier knows what they are doing.
Regards, D.
What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
I'm going to try a new one when I get a minute, beta atm but works on my hacked Hermes to wm6.1 and is nice
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What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
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Hi Gulioth, I received version 7 "for the HTC Diamond" which will only load to the internal storage of the Diamond - hence, I returned it as this would not work on the HD.
I don't know the specific current version other than "7". If you have CoPilot Central then you should be able to find it. Unfortunately with the Diamond version there also is no copy of the CoPilot Central.
I have returned the Diamond version and I'm sitting waiting for someone (PLEASE !!) to make a legally correct version work.
If you check here: http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/compatibility.asp you can see that ALK says the HD is not yet compatible.
I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
Thanks - that's a new one to me - I will investigate "on course navigation"
Ciao, Dave
Route 66 Version 7 works sweeet for me
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I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
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Hmmm - this seems to be only USA & Canada according to their site:
Map Coverage USA and Canada.
The latest maps and up-to-date points of interest for United States. Full road coverage with over 10 443 000 kilometers of updated roads, and over 12.3 millions points of interest. Includes maps of Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico.
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/ocn8_intro.aspx
I did not specify in my original question that I'm based in Europe.
I'm looking for a legally correct GPS application that works "out-of-the box" or direct from the cab without having to tweak xml files or anything else and which is recognised by the software provider as compatible and acceptable. TomTom and CoPilot do not yet list the HD as a compatible device. I also don't want a software that is linked to one micro SD card (like Garmin XT).
I believe that CoPilot will be the right choice when it is HD compatible. I like also TomTom but it seems so difficult to make it work - there are many threads here about the tricks needed to make maps work. I do have TomTom running but only with the sample map. Trying to get TomTom home to accept the HD and legally download new Maps does not seem legally correct now - maybe next year ...
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Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
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Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
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WOW - this seems to be a first, a GPS app that claims the HTC HD is compatible:
http://www.66.com/route66/index.php?cid=UK&act=1&prodid=5723
Hi all, just bought my HD2 and i'm searching for some navigation software, I saw the TomTom version being installed on the HD2 is the same as on my old HTC Elf, so I'm a bit confused, what's the best navigation software for our device? Just shoot!
Thankz
I have used both TomTom and iGO8 both work for me. But being a long term Tomtom user tend to use that the most
i have tom tom, but am yet to give it a good work out(so to speak)
thankz for the input!
TomTom user here, too. Been very happy with it on my TyTnII, looking forward to experiencing it on an HD2. Though every now and again the maps are not 100% accurate (like sending you down a fire road in very rural areas) that applies to any navigation product. I find it easy to use, reliable and there's a large community of TomTom users out there to get help from.
Just installed TomTom, i'll try IGO8 also, looks promising
I love my Copilot live (Version 8) with TTS and Live Traffic. Roxxx!
And: after 3 years of usage (including Live traffic) it has cost almost as much as navigon (30 € Copilot + 5€ TTS + 3x20€ Live Traffic) and: It is much better (in my humble opinion).
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I love my Copilot live (Version 8) with TTS and Live Traffic. Roxxx!
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Same here, but I don't use the TTS service.
Can safely say that it is pretty impressive, especially as it was cheap too.
My CoPilot 8 trial has just ended and was considering purchasing the full version... (£26.99 for UK/Ireland & £59.99 for Europe)
im using tomtom too. works well and connects to satellite pretty fast bout 20-30seconds.
after a long search I decided to use IGO8, I'm really surprised about this navigation software, love it!
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Hi all, just bought my HD2 and i'm searching for some navigation software, I saw the TomTom version being installed on the HD2 is the same as on my old HTC Elf, so I'm a bit confused, what's the best navigation software for our device? Just shoot!
Thankz
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I have tried TOMTOM, IGO8, TELENAV, DESTINATOR, for me and my uses, I stick with and will continue to use GARMINXT, all the extra fancy crap is overkill, it works great. you should try them all and find out which one, in your opinion, is best for you.
Currently have Garminxt - Tomtom -IGo8 - route66 - ndrive each have their own plus and conns garminxt is really good for finding things through google, tomtom is simple and does the job(die hard) igo8 is stunning to look at and runs on the hd2 like silk with no gps lag like the others and the arrow movement is soo smooth, but its pio's are not accurate, was a loyal tomtom user but igo8 has edged it and is the one i will always use first.
I've been looking at this too. CoPilot is very smooth. I must say I am very surprised by it. Saw a demo comparing the performance of both CoPilot and TomTom on YouTube, (nice look at the HD2 too) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHB_8_4cBw4
I have always used tomtom on my Touch HD despite the GPS Lag. Looks like the HD2 has the same problems. What do people think?
yep same lag, but also had lag on my xperia x1, for me on hd2 igo8 rules.
WAZE
its a great app.. turn by turn navi.. plus its FREE!!!! and it has soo many features that other gps navi's do not..
I have always used Garmin Mobile XT and on this phone it is no different. Always works get a lock in 10sec and I am on the move with pinpoint POI placement for speed-camera warning and easy integration of custom POI.
Been using it the last week and the large screen makes this application even better and the colour and contrast is very very good.
Have not used the others but am impressed with Garmin Mobile XT.
My first thread. Hope it's not a report. Credit SD
Free turn-by-turn voice guided navigation for Windows 6.x phones, powered by Bing Maps, for owners with a Windows phones on Sprint, T-Mobile, or AT&T. Bing will calculate your route, and guide you as you drive. You can select the fastest or shortest route, choose to avoid traffic and/or tolls, get a map or a list of directions, and see arrows and hear alerts to know which way to turn next. The navigation feature is compatible with the phones below:
•HTC Fuze
•HTC Pure
•HTC HD2
•HTC Tilt 2
•HTC Touch Diamond 2
•HTC Touch HD
•HTC Touch Pro
•HTC Touch Pro 2
•Motorola Q9c
•Samsung Jack
•Samsung Omnia II
•Samsung Propel
•T-Mobile Dash 3G
How to install it (your phone should have data plan in order to use it):
1.On your phone, open your web browser and go to m.bing.com
2.Click on "Download Bing App" to download and install the app (or download directly fromhttp://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx to install manually)
3.After installing the app, go to Start menu and click on "Bing"
4.Select "Direction"
5.Enter addresses and select "Navigate"
This is an update to the previous Bing cab. It auto updates if you run the old one. Looks like a good update. Similar to Google Maps. Looks like a good update.
I was never really a user of Bing, until yesterday. I never really liked the interface and the usibility of MS apps, they tend to be very utilitarian and clunky. Sort of like 80% apps, they are almost good, but not quite.
That is until I tried this new version of Bing. I don't know about the rest of it, but the maps and the navigation is 100%. Sure its not TomTom or iGo, and you need a data connection (so no wandering the back roads of montana) but it is an excellent FREE altinative especially for city driving.
It loads fast, it looks good, it READS THE STREET NAMES, and it will get you there. So if you are off in an area you are not familliar with, and you are looking for an address, this program will certainly get you there.
You don't have to have nearly 1GB of SD card space taken by maps either. For the power traveler who is always on the go and always navigating, then this may not be for you. But for the other 90% of us, who have to go to Aunt Sally's house, and you have not been there in 20 years... this will do the job, and do it well.
It also pulls addresses from your contacts, it allows you to do voice search and then it will navigate you to the location of your choice. Also, traffic data is on by default (I think, but its there either way). The routing options are a little limited, but they include shortest, fastest, no tolls and account for traffic delays in calculating route (interesting option I have not had the chance to try).
i have the tmo tp2 with energy rom on it and i can't get it to work it is installed and the gps map works but nothing else does??? it says " sorry, we can't complete your search. please check your connection and try again." but i have 3g running and two to three signal bars. what the problem what wrong????
I have the same phone and am running the latest NRG ROM with Cookie (see signature). The update worked in my ROM as does the latest version of Bing... You might try updating to the same version I'm running or reflashing and reapplying the update...
If you want a good, free, turn by turn nav solution the pain of reflashing is worth it I think
nice, i will try this app, never used bing before...
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
I'm gonna have to disagree with you. It can and has replaced TomTom for me. I ran TT7 on my old Tilt for a long time. The bing search is much more powerful and better than TT. TT does some things well but Bing is more well rounded. Plus there's no way I'm shelling out the cash for TT maps when this is free. The voice guidance leaps it in front of WM Google Maps as well. It's probably only just gonna get better as well. It's pretty good right now though.
Aaron McCarthy said:
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
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Its not as good as hiring a local guide who can come and drive your car for you either. Ultimately that is not the point.
Android (and iPhone) may be good devices, but this program is for windows mobile, so it is only fair to compare it to windows mobile options. If you read my mini review I mentioned that it would be good for light around town navigating. For example, I was traveling a few weeks ago, and I was really craving something other than McDonalds to eat. I decide on Chipoltle, but since they are not as common as McD I needed to search for them. I first loaded google maps and did a search. Found one a few miles away. Due to the confusing roads, and the heavy traffic, I wanted voice navigation rather than just following a line on the screen. So I had to write the address down on a piece of paper, then loaded iGo and keyed the address in and let it guide me to my dinner.
This new version of Bing would have done that all in one step. With the additional possibility to direct you based on traffic volumes (I was in suburban Washington DC, that feature could have been HUGE for me).
Google's flagship software on their OS should be great, and if they had a equivalent program on the WM platform then it would be a fair comparison. Personally this integration of contacts, maps, and directions, along with real time traffic brings the mobile phone to a whole new level of effective. Now if they could work weather into the mix (like radar imagery over the map, all in the same program) it would be perfect. (I live in an area where it could be snowing very heavily 1 mile down the road, and you would never know it or predict it without checking the radar)
My main issue with it... the turn screen comes on over the entire map screen and shows the name of the street you are gonna turn on, and a big arrow indicating the type of turn. It does not seem like it goes away until after the turn. I for one would like the know that info then go back to the map so I can see the route in reference to the other roads around. It has a hide button on the left softkey, but that is kinda annoying to have to do on repeated turns.
edit: All I can say is that my wife's first smart phone, and this easy to use bing software just game me the need to buy a window mount for the phone in her car.
Used it today for the first time. I've been a long time Garmin user and I still like the UI better of garmin but bing gets rid of the lag. It was very accurate where as with garmin I have about a 1 second delay.
Wish garmin would release a newer version fixing the lag issue. overall though I was very impressed with the capability of the free bing app.
Aaron McCarthy said:
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
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boufa said:
Its not as good as hiring a local guide who can come and drive your car for you either. Ultimately that is not the point.
Android (and iPhone) may be good devices, but this program is for windows mobile, so it is only fair to compare it to windows mobile options.
This new version of Bing would have done that all in one step. With the
Google's flagship software on their OS should be great, and if they had a equivalent program on the WM platform then it would be a fair comparison. Personally this integration of contacts, maps, and directions, along with real time traffic brings the mobile phone to a whole new level of effective. Now if they could work weather into the mix (like radar imagery over the map, all in the same program) it would be perfect. (I live in an area where it could be snowing very heavily 1 mile down the road, and you would never know it or predict it without checking the radar).
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I'd really say the only thing I like more about tomtom and other gps programs like it are the 3d views.... That's about it. The UI of tomtom I have always liked best but thats sort of something for each person to decide on their own. This only has a straight up google like map that has the turn directions pop up. Plain yes, handy, definatly... Crazy it took them this long to impliment something like that if you ask me
That said, I wasnt meaning to give a straight up comparision to something not even available for wm (google navigator) but google navigator IS coming to windows mobile and they said that it will more or less look identical accross all platforms (android, WM and Iphone OS) So... comparing them in the light that it will be here... well.... that I dont really think is stepping that far out of line.
For scooting around town for sure this can be a great tool. Especially the fact that you can speak your destination and have it navigate there. Something that tomtom has yet to impliment in there wm aps. Navigon does voice navigation, or at least used to when I used it on my phone years ago, but if I recall correctly you could only speak directions to names of people or places you yourself saved in so for sure points go to bing navigator for that feature. That's why I said aps like this are going to make the stand along gps programs like tomtom and garmin and the sort ancient history! As much of a step up this feature is it's only going to get better. As soon as they add in the 3d map view that tomtom, garmin, google navigator etc I'll be using the program every day!
Aaron McCarthy said:
I'd really say the only thing I like more about tomtom and other gps programs like it are the 3d views.... That's about it. The UI of tomtom I have always liked best but thats sort of something for each person to decide on their own. This only has a straight up google like map that has the turn directions pop up. Plain yes, handy, definatly... Crazy it took them this long to impliment something like that if you ask me
That said, I wasnt meaning to give a straight up comparision to something not even available for wm (google navigator) but google navigator IS coming to windows mobile and they said that it will more or less look identical accross all platforms (android, WM and Iphone OS) So... comparing them in the light that it will be here... well.... that I dont really think is stepping that far out of line.
For scooting around town for sure this can be a great tool. Especially the fact that you can speak your destination and have it navigate there. Something that tomtom has yet to impliment in there wm aps. Navigon does voice navigation, or at least used to when I used it on my phone years ago, but if I recall correctly you could only speak directions to names of people or places you yourself saved in so for sure points go to bing navigator for that feature. That's why I said aps like this are going to make the stand along gps programs like tomtom and garmin and the sort ancient history! As much of a step up this feature is it's only going to get better. As soon as they add in the 3d map view that tomtom, garmin, google navigator etc I'll be using the program every day!
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Despite my snotty response, I would be thrilled to see Google Navigator come to the WM platform. I like the fact that Google and Microsoft are taking shots at each other in this "maps war" Ultimatly WE all win. If I am not navigating I like google maps. I keep it on and use it just for seeing where I am at the moment and to see traffic. I like the visual look of the google maps better and the road construction information is great too. But the navigating is a whole ton better on the new Bing.
I really want to like Waze. I really tuely do. I like the idea of driving down streets that I can see that no one else has gone down. I like adjusting my route to get one of the prize locations. However, the stability of the program is very poor. I get crashes once in every 2 or 3 uses.
From what I have seen Google Navigator takes the voice navigation and puts it onto the google maps, and for me that would be the perfect solution... IF it lives up to the promise.
Bing is a great step in the right direction. Sure there are features that are missing now BUT the improvement is a night and day difference. Can't wait to get other features (gas prices, etc). Also, an off-line mode would be amazing. Giving users the ability to download map information in advance for those rural trips (we are heading to North Idaho next month) would be a great option. 99% of the time I have a data connection but when I don't ... that's probably the time I need GPS the most
jrey said:
My first thread. Hope it's not a report. Credit SD
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thanks for posting. people here are generally nice. no need to worry about sucking up to the douchebags at sd...