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ok.. please someone tell me there is a hack or something..
I bought this phone to replace all my gadgets I use for my bike. MP3 player, Cycle computer,heart monitor.
I had knee surgery and just now being able to do some small bike riding again..
I loaded up my songs and played them through my S9 headset (blue tooth)
WTF, at max volume its not going to work with a 20mph head wind.. Let alone, just relaxing outside with no wind, max volume seems to be decent, but far from loud.
Then I tried my dads Jabra bluetooth headphones. .Same thing.
Then I tried Skull candy plug in headphones, no change.
I finally plugged it into my friends Iphone, and holy #@#$ at 3/4 volume it plenty loud let alone full blast.
I read on another forum that there might be a hackfor this.. I know there are a couple audio hacks but I think it might only be for the external speaker, and I don't really want to do that..
So tell, please there is a way, other wise well.... it would suck marjory
Could be your files are too soft.
All I can tell you is that plugged in using my Skullcandy FMJ's or Koss insulating buds, I can't go above 3/4 volume without getting ringing in my ears. Full volume on my RF-MAB2's is fairly loud, though admittedly they don't insulate against ambient sound well (nor do they focus audio down the ear canal properly...).
I'm guessing you're using a Stock ROM, right? Try out CyanogenMod 6.1.2. It's got a better Bluetooth stack (for your BT headphones), better music player, and even a DSP manager.
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Could be your files are too soft.
All I can tell you is that plugged in using my Skullcandy FMJ's or Koss insulating buds, I can't go above 3/4 volume without getting ringing in my ears. Full volume on my RF-MAB2's is fairly loud, though admittedly they don't insulate against ambient sound well (nor do they focus audio down the ear canal properly...).
I'm guessing you're using a Stock ROM, right? Try out CyanogenMod 6.1.2. It's got a better Bluetooth stack (for your BT headphones), better music player, and even a DSP manager.
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same my bose make my ears ring if i go to high
Im using Fresh 3.5 rom.
Not stock..
its pretty obvious when I compare it to an Iphone that the EVO is extremely weak in this department.. I love this phone, I would even call it an Iphone killer. but I would get rid of it, if it can't do something simple like play music through headphones.. (at level beyond decent)
Mixzing paid app has a 10 band EQ that you can crank up.
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Im using Fresh 3.5 rom.
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Fresh is a stock-based ROM. Therefore it has all of the Stock ROM's disadvantages; crappy software, bad bluetooth stack, poor audio drivers, etc.
fastfed said:
its pretty obvious when I compare it to an Iphone that the EVO is extremely weak in this department.. I love this phone, I would even call it an Iphone killer. but I would get rid of it, if it can't do something simple like play music through headphones.. (at level beyond decent)
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The iPhone also has iTunes automatically adjust the volume of files to be normalized, and rather than edit the files directly, transfers that adjustment as part of the meta-data which the iPhone in turn reads and uses. The EVO does not have this advantage. Again, try CM 6.1.2 and play with the DSP Manager. You'll be surprised.
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Fresh is a stock-based ROM. Therefore it has all of the Stock ROM's disadvantages; crappy software, bad bluetooth stack, poor audio drivers, etc.
The iPhone also has iTunes automatically adjust the volume of files to be normalized, and rather than edit the files directly, transfers that adjustment as part of the meta-data which the iPhone in turn reads and uses. The EVO does not have this advantage. Again, try CM 6.1.2 and play with the DSP Manager. You'll be surprised.
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Cm, has no 4g right? has no sense right?
I mean come on, is this what it has to come down to?
I mean I will do what I have to do..
Can someone give me a quick instruction on how to mess with my music files to make them louder again.. I remember doing this way back in the day, I can adjust things with the actual file themselves..
PowerAMP
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Must be your phone. I'm running a stock rom with a cheap set of ear buds and 3/4 is all I want.
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fastfed said:
ok.. please someone tell me there is a hack or something..
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the "hack" is CM with dsp manager.
p.s. are you plugging the wired headphones all the way in? i ask because i do a little bit of cycling and use cheapo wal-mart ear buds and still run about 75% volume.
p.p.s. maybe you're going deaf?
Some Sense ROMs include DSP manager.
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Cm, has no 4g right? has no sense right?
I mean come on, is this what it has to come down to?
I mean I will do what I have to do..
Can someone give me a quick instruction on how to mess with my music files to make them louder again.. I remember doing this way back in the day, I can adjust things with the actual file themselves..
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CyanogenMod does have WiMax (kinda, it's in an alpha build, which also boosts the speed on your 3G). And as for Sense, hell no. Sense is a bloated POS smacked on Android.
As for the music file audio, look up dBpoweramp. It has the ability to do so in batch. But like the other posters in this thread, I think that either you're going deaf, you're not connected all the way, or there's some sort of hardware/wetware issue going on.
seems like you might have an issue with your phone or you have an issue with your rom, i'd try flashing a different rom before anything else.
I have the s9-hd's and don't turn them all the way up and they sound great . I also have various headphones and never turn them all the way up either.
You guys obviously don't ride..its a very common issue..I'm not going deaf..its called 20 mph head wind or more average..search on this forum for volume as the topic, you will see pages of the same issue..a real shame is all I gotta say.. That's 2for the iphone
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Hey I cycle too and never really found a cure to the head wind trying all kinds of styles of headphones (even the big over the ear dj headphones), don't blame the phone, cause its obviously a headphones issue. And I too agree you may be going deaf cause I never have to turn my headphones all the way up, I find myself constantly turning them down. Power Amp has a pre amp feature that can really crank up the volume if its ever needed. Also try looking for some insulated ear buds like these: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX36V...1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295127403&sr=8-1-fkmr0
Due to the weather I haven't tried them outside yet but im sure these will be better than the S9's, which I also own and are not to fond of them, ( crappy sound and fit) esp when on the bike.
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You guys obviously don't ride..its a very common issue..I'm not going deaf..its called 20 mph head wind or more average..search on this forum for volume as the topic, you will see pages of the same issue..a real shame is all I gotta say.. That's 2for the iphone
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Mmmkay, y'know, we're trying to help, but you just wanna bash on the EVO, so go ahead. Return it to Sprint, and go get an iPhone if it's so wonderful. Really.
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Mmmkay, y'know, we're trying to help, but you just wanna bash on the EVO, so go ahead. Return it to Sprint, and go get an iPhone if it's so wonderful. Really.
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Wow he wasn't bashing the Evo. I did a comparison too and the Iphone does have louder sounds. It was already stated that's because Itunes does some magical **** to your music for you. Other than migrating to CM (Believe it or not but some people dont mind Sense @ all especially when using mikofroyo) you can use poweramp which does have an equalizer and it will boost the sound. Just make sure you got good headphones to handle the boost because it blew my walmart pair.Or you can find a prog that will do some magical **** to your music files like Itunes.
Yep power amp has a pre amp and eq...i use fresh rom, and power amp is loud
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Hey I cycle too and never really found a cure to the head wind trying all kinds of styles of headphones (even the big over the ear dj headphones), don't blame the phone, cause its obviously a headphones issue. And I too agree you may be going deaf cause I never have to turn my headphones all the way up, I find myself constantly turning them down. Power Amp has a pre amp feature that can really crank up the volume if its ever needed. Also try looking for some insulated ear buds like these: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX36V...1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295127403&sr=8-1-fkmr0
Due to the weather I haven't tried them outside yet but im sure these will be better than the S9's, which I also own and are not to fond of them, ( crappy sound and fit) esp when on the bike.
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FAR from deaf.. Actually had a huge ear test during my interview with being a 911, dispatcher.. And you need to have perfect hearing.. WHICH IS DO..
I figured it out..
And the fact still remains, for the person saying "Im bashing your precious EVO, WHICH I LOVE AND OWN TOO"
THE IPHONE IS MUCH MUCH LOUDER, HANDS DOWN FACT!! Don't like it? Maybe you should return your phone then..
I took all my music files and used a program called mp3gain (Free) and brought all files to 100DB's
Which doens't distort the sound. I also wanted to tell you phatmanxxl, those headphones you linked are wired.. My EVo is mounted on my bike, so I need bluetooth headphones..
in anycase I use A pair of Jabra BT620 head phones.. They are a bigger style but finally PLENTY LOUD.. Actually only keep it at about 70% volume or so..
http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-BT620s-Bluetooth®-headset-Bluetooth/dp/B000E7YSWK
fastfed said:
FAR from deaf.. Actually had a huge ear test during my interview with being a 911, dispatcher.. And you need to have perfect hearing.. WHICH IS DO..
I figured it out..
And the fact still remains, for the person saying "Im bashing your precious EVO, WHICH I LOVE AND OWN TOO"
THE IPHONE IS MUCH MUCH LOUDER, HANDS DOWN FACT!! Don't like it? Maybe you should return your phone then..
I took all my music files and used a program called mp3gain (Free) and brought all files to 100DB's
Which doens't distort the sound. I also wanted to tell you phatmanxxl, those headphones you linked are wired.. My EVo is mounted on my bike, so I need bluetooth headphones..
in anycase I use A pair of Jabra BT620 head phones.. They are a bigger style but finally PLENTY LOUD.. Actually only keep it at about 70% volume or so..
http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-BT620s-Bluetooth®-headset-Bluetooth/dp/B000E7YSWK
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Lol you can't say the iphone is louder. You would have to test that with the SAME music files, and have the volume normalization off as you import the files into itunes. Also for a rom that has the audio built in thats sense, look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
It also has the dsp manager, and 4g and everything.
I've been reading rave reviews about Supercurio's Voodoo Sound and was interested in giving it a try but it requires a kernel update. Does anyone know if there is a kernel for the Fascinate that supports Voodoo Sound?
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871915
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871915
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Yes, supercurio put in some serious Q & A time over the weekend.
yeah it was fun. the kernel is amazing.
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What does everyone use for settings in Voodoo Sound? I am also using my favorite app PowerAmp and I wanted to see if anyone else was using that combo and what equalizer/preamp/headphone amp settings other people were using.
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What does everyone use for settings in Voodoo Sound? I am also using my favorite app PowerAmp and I wanted to see if anyone else was using that combo and what equalizer/preamp/headphone amp settings other people were using.
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EQ settings are going to depend largely on your headphones. I also use poweramp and for the moment have turned the EQ off so that i can get comfortable listening to the effect of the new sound driver. My normal listening headphones are a set of klipsch Image S4s which frankly for the money ($79) sound quite good, but are a little too strong in the midrange and roll off too quickly up top.
Typically with the poweramp EQ I've been cutting a little in the upper midrange and boosting a little up top to compensate for this, but after a few minutes listening to the new sound driver with the SNR boost and 128x oversampling enabled, i don't think i'm going to need as much boost on the top end.
I'll play with the EQ later after my ears adjust, but i'm really looking forward to Supercurio implementing the EQ in his app so that i can use it as a global EQ for all sources (especially since i listen through the same headphones all the time).
This Voodoo Sound kernel sounds excellent using PowerAmp and my equalizer settings. If you're interested in my equalizer setup, I've attached a picture. I'm using my Grado Sr60i headphones right now, I haven't tried out the new Voodoo sound kernal on my Koss Ksc75 headphones yet, however.
I listen to my phones music primarily through a cassette adapter to my car stereo. Will this new kernel have any real effect my music or not
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I listen to my phones music primarily through a cassette adapter to my car stereo. Will this new kernel have any real effect my music or not
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It should, but I don't know how noticeable it will be. It seems that most people say that it's a very noticeable difference, so you could test it and find out.
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EQ settings are going to depend largely on your headphones. I also use poweramp and for the moment have turned the EQ off so that i can get comfortable listening to the effect of the new sound driver. My normal listening headphones are a set of klipsch Image S4s which frankly for the money ($79) sound quite good, but are a little too strong in the midrange and roll off too quickly up top.
Typically with the poweramp EQ I've been cutting a little in the upper midrange and boosting a little up top to compensate for this, but after a few minutes listening to the new sound driver with the SNR boost and 128x oversampling enabled, i don't think i'm going to need as much boost on the top end.
I'll play with the EQ later after my ears adjust, but i'm really looking forward to Supercurio implementing the EQ in his app so that i can use it as a global EQ for all sources (especially since i listen through the same headphones all the time).
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Funny enough I just bought these headphones today at best buy! I can't agree enough, for the money they are easily as good as my Shures that cost about 60 bucks more. When you find out what you think are good settings could you maybe PM to me? I need to get some flac files on here to set it up properly, but I just don't feel like getting rid of some of my music in order to make space for flac versions. TLDR PM me your settings please!
Is anyone else having issues with bluetooth audio out? Like, it's not audible at all...
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Funny enough I just bought these headphones today at best buy! I can't agree enough, for the money they are easily as good as my Shures that cost about 60 bucks more. When you find out what you think are good settings could you maybe PM to me? I need to get some flac files on here to set it up properly, but I just don't feel like getting rid of some of my music in order to make space for flac versions. TLDR PM me your settings please!
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Once I get comfortable with the new voodoo sound, i'll post up or pm you some settings.
I can tell you that the new kernel has me really questioning some of my source material. Everything without it was pretty muddy, which is why I had to cut around 2k iirc and boost the top end, but with voodoo most if my stuff sounds fantastic dead flat except for a few files which is causing me to to doubt the quality of the conversion.
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ya so far I am pretty amazed at having everything on flat, my voodoo amp at -8 db and then checking just the DAC 1.5 db gain. I'm not sure what exactly either of those check boxes does and it may be all in my head, (there always seems to be a constant battle between my head and ears) but maybe you could enlighten me as to what the benefits are of those 2 check boxes?
From supercurio
"oversampling improve the digital filtering quality of the signal before it's sent to the DAC, and makes the DAC runs at a higher rate.
It reduces the distortion and improve the SNR too a little bit, but mostly, it helps filter high frequencies people cannot hear but only feel and it acts on the listening fatigue."
Also from Supercurio
"Internally, the audio codec reserve some headroom for the signal, allowing to do some processing without reaching saturating levels.
The +1.5dB SNR boost disable this conservative settings using a non-documented trick and now a lot of people tested it: looks like it cause 0 issue!
It makes the sound +1.5dB louder without creating any noise. As consequence, the signal to noise ratio is also improved by +1.5dB.
It's all good"
Okay, with my earbuds, which are not the cheapest, but not super high dollar, I thought this sounded pretty good. Then tonight I plugged my phone into my car stereo (2008 Jeep with factory Infinity premium audio system). H...O...L...Y...C...O...W...! I thought my ears were going to burst into flames. I actually had to crank down the EQ settings in PowerAMP some, because the bass and treble were absolutely ridiculous. I think I've got it set to a pretty good level now, but it still thumps the subwoofer pretty good. And the clarity in general is unreal. I'm hearing things in my mp3s that I've never heard before because the levels were so muddy, even with PowerAMP's EQ. Anybody with decent speakers who has installed this sound fix knows exactly what I mean, and those that haven't most definitely should.
Meh, and to think I was considering $300+ on an aftermarket head unit to get more power, when all I needed to do was add a few lines of code to my phone. I think Samsung needs to fire all their programmers and start over, because they're insanely crippling their hardware with crap code. I think the Galaxy S phones really would be the Android equivalent of the iPhone right now, in terms of cult following, if people only knew how good the hardware really is. Sorry Motorola, but the Droid X has got absolutely nothin' on this phone in the hardware department. You can keep your few extra pixels.
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I think Samsung needs to fire all their programmers and start over, because they're insanely crippling their hardware with crap code.
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Actually, it looks like supercurio pitched a plan to Samsung for them to use the community (and, of course, help it by releasing beta source, etc) to overhaul their phone software strategy. Good luck to him.
Wow, if he pulls that off, that would be awesome.
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So of all the android phones, is there any phones out there that has a better sound quality than the SGS line?
I know it's better than the evo 3d a far as playing movies I put on our from the computer. Anything over 1.5gb and this thing won't play it. Never had that problem with my vibrant.
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No.. all android phones have ****ty sound quality and samsung is the only android maker that specializrs in sound entertainment and has been for years..
If I were Motorola or HTC or Apple even for that matter I would start buying the samsung speakers and putting them in my phone. I swear i've never heard such a tiny little friggen thing get so loud. If I play pandora for background music and turn it up, it's impossible to hear anything else lol. It's like a mini boombox.
And for the giant apple is, and how they are all about "music" and that jazz you think they would have a free mp3 downloader somewhere?? or that there speaker on their phone would actually put out some sound. I know quiet a few people with Iphones, if I ever don't like what their playing I just turn on mine.
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If I were Motorola or HTC or Apple even for that matter I would start buying the samsung speakers and putting them in my phone. I swear i've never heard such a tiny little friggen thing get so loud. If I play pandora for background music and turn it up, it's impossible to hear anything else lol. It's like a mini boombox.
And for the giant apple is, and how they are all about "music" and that jazz you think they would have a free mp3 downloader somewhere?? or that there speaker on their phone would actually put out some sound. I know quiet a few people with Iphones, if I ever don't like what their playing I just turn on mine.
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Yeah, the speaker is great on my Vibrant.
But to the bs you sprouted about Apple having a free mp3 downloader...please say you were trolling.
Owning a vibrant I would have to say it has a decent sound quality.. I am using the trial version of Poweramp right now and it gives you advanced options to adjust the sound of your music.
One app: voodoo control. Win!
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One app: voodoo control. Win!
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I also thought about that voodoo sound is what makes it even greater.
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i've always found that sony ericsson devices have great speaker clarity and volume levels. Nokia tends to be adaquate, but not ideal for walking down a busy street.
the htc evo 3d sounds better than my vibrant when played through headphones.
Am I the only one with a ****ty speaker then? Seriously, mine is horrible. I don't recall ever actually 'hearing' my phone ring, the fact that they called it vibrant was self explanatory to me then lol
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Voodoo sound makes this thing sound better than anything else I've even listened HQ M4As on. It kicks the ass of even the best batch of iPod you can find.
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Am I the only one with a ****ty speaker then? Seriously, mine is horrible. I don't recall ever actually 'hearing' my phone ring, the fact that they called it vibrant was self explanatory to me then lol
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I think something is wrong with it, the Vibrant has a very loud and good speaker...
even without Voodoo sound....
About the sound quality, the SGS comes very close to Ipods...the soundchip they use is good (read many reviews) but the sound from the SGSII is bad compared to other phones (also read many reviews about it).
I feel Vibrant is better.
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the htc evo 3d sounds better than my vibrant when played through headphones.
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Even with voodoo?
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havent tried vodoo sound yet.
the only problems i have with the music player on this phone has to do with a stock ROM issue causing the sound drivers to not work properly after leaving the phone on for 12+ hrs. a reboot fixes but pain in the ass
Speakers do blow also... Your speaker could be blown. Mine was, it didn't crackle or anything but it only worked at half the volume it should have... It just randomly happened.
Best music player, eh? If you're talking about playing music through the speaker on the player, then absolutely not. It's just good enough to use as a speaker phone, but sound quality through the Galaxy S's speaker is about as weak as you'd expect, meaning no bass to speak of and very little in the way of clarity.
Now if you're talking about as a music player more as an iPod replacement AKA using it with headphones, then I'd say the Galaxy S has the best sound of any system I've used as long as you use decent headphones or IEMs. For instance, if you go the Skullcandy or Jbuds route, the Galaxy S performs about as well as any other music player.
However, if you do some research and pick out a nice set of sub-$100 IEMs, like the MEElectronics M9 series ($13 to $20), MEElectronics M6 ($20 to $30), Brainwavz M1 ($35 to $46), NuForce NE-700X ($60 to $75), or my personal favorite MEElectronics A151 ($50 to $75)? Well, then the Galaxy S will send out clear, unadultered sound that a quality pair of IEMs can turn into jaw-droppingly beautiful music.
Of course, you'll need to do your research, test out different IEMs, and most importantly, find a perfect set of tips that give you the best seal (poor seal = tiny sound and weak bass). You'll also want the latest Voodoo, but use as little processing as possible. No more than the Voodoo AMP if possible.
No, I'm not an audiophile. I just play one on the internetz.
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the only problems i have with the music player on this phone has to do with a stock ROM issue causing the sound drivers to not work properly after leaving the phone on for 12+ hrs. a reboot fixes but pain in the ass
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thats just one of the many reasons u shudnt use stock
Hi, after many months and Power Amping I decided to stop PA and use UberMusic with DSP!
Now if you don't know what DSP manager is, well it is an application used to enhance music experience!
It has 5 options.
-Dynamic Range Compression
(Compresses loud sounds and amplifies quieter sounds for a "balance")
-Bass Boost
(Amplifies Bass sounds (bass guitar, "thumps" lower sounds))
-Equalizer
(Changes the sounds or levels of a song more on this later)
-Loudness Compensation
(Makes the track or sound louder leading to possible distortion)
-Virtual Room 3D effect
(Mimics a "3D" effect (think toy microphone))
Okay so you might be saying. "It depends on what people like" or "These settings are not optimal"
Well not exactly.
I have researched all functions and have become a noobie Audiophile.
These settings aren't my "this sounds good" setting. These are chosen according on how music and headphones work.
These settings work on almost all kinds of songs! Headphones don't matter either it will enhance the headphones!
Now for the settings.
For the first DYNAMIC RANGE COMPRESSION: You want to turn this completely off. And I'll explain why.
This makes the sounds leveled but amplifies or makes the track louder which leads to distortion at high levels. And one REALLY IMPORTANT REASON. Unless you have a 80's or 90's or lower song that is NOT mastered (updated) then this option is bad. All modern songs are already really compressed and most people agree.
Bass Boost:
Leave it at Slight or Medium.
some headphones have little bass and some have a lot.
Equalizer
You want to male them look like stair steps going from left to right.
Loudness compensation:
It is like Dynamic range compression but doesn't change sounds or levels them it just makes it louder...I use Voodoo Sound so its not needed but if you have an HTC or Motorola phone then set it to weak or strong to prevent distortion.
Headphone Virtual Room effect.
This option tries to make the song feel surround soundy, but it just doesn't work for most. It takes some sounds and covers them as all it does it just produce an echo effect so off.
Give feedback!
Everyone has different ears, different preferences and different headphones (not to mention different files) and there's no universal setting. All the options are there for a reason, everyone should IMHO pick what they like best.
My G2 has always had a really good bass response and really good equalization by default. Using these for only $10!!! (in silver/white color though), I get full noise cancellation while listening to music or using this fantastic app (really good for an airplane ride), fantastic bass response (better than my iPod) and other EQ greatness.
Our phones don't need any fancy audio settings
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-Bass Boost
(Amplifies Bass sounds (bass guitar, "thumps" lower sounds))
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Most notes on the bass guitar are actually not bass frequencies at all, but actually low-mids. In most forms of popular music, the only thing that actually falls into bass range is the bass drum, and some synthesizer sounds.
Nice guide, If you can provide screenshots THAT'D BE GREAT!
Can you please post some snapshot of the equalizer settings?
Here are my settings. I think it might be too overkill for bass.
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What about the speakers? Did you change the settings? Cuz, I don't like how they sound :S
You can guide people in the general direction of how to tweak the settings, but ultimately, it's their ears, not yours. But nice guide I guess.
Have you tried neutron MP3 player?
It's pretty dope sawce.
Perfect for audiophiles.
Just some tips:
Never boost with EQ. It almost always has a worse effect on the sound (clipping/distortion) than cutting the other frequencies would. However, cutting volume in the digital domain reduces the bitrate, so it'll probably have a negative impact, too. Better not do that either.
Loudness boost/bass boost are just a form of EQ, so they'll add distortion, however minor, to the track. Better avoid them.
Crosstalk can cause problems once the audio is in the analog components of your device; you should get a circuit diagram, and isolate the extraneous circuits (cellular radio, gps, graphics chip, etc) by disabling them. Take the time to replace all the resistors and capacitors in the audio path at this time.
At this stage your audio should be pretty reasonable, so the next lowest-hanging fruit is room treatments. Collect blankets, mats, pillows, egg cartons, whatever is easiest to get, and attach them to all surfaces in your listening room. You need about 6" thick padding, at least. Don't even think about listening in other rooms, or when you're out and about, you'll only ruin your experience.
The penultimate preperation is to prepare yourself. To avoid soundwave refraction, wear sweats and a hoodie, and two pair of socks (one for your hands). Cue up some suitable well-mastered recording ( I recommend the '93 Decca disc of Cage's 4'33" ), swallow your general anaesthetic (don't want your noisy lungs and heart messing with the sound) and enjoy!
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Never boost with EQ. It almost always has a worse effect on the sound (clipping/distortion) than cutting the other frequencies would. However, cutting volume in the digital domain reduces the bitrate, so it'll probably have a negative impact, too. Better not do that either.
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I don't consider myself an audiophile by any means, but I know what I like when listening to music. Boosting and cutting EQ sounds just fine to me, and 99.9% of the masses will never hear any clipping (and don't own the audio equipment for it to matter), unless you really boost to the max. Same thing with cutting the freqs. And cutting/boosting to my liking always sounds vastly better to me, than a flat EQ profile.
And I can only assume your comments about replacing capacitors and putting up padding, are a joke.
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I don't consider myself an audiophile by any means, but I know what I like when listening to music. Boosting and cutting EQ sounds just fine to me, and 99.9% of the masses will never hear any clipping (and don't own the audio equipment for it to matter), unless you really boost to the max. Same thing with cutting the freqs. And cutting/boosting to my liking always sounds vastly better to me, than a flat EQ profile.
And I can only assume your comments about replacing capacitors and putting up padding, are a joke.
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It was just a joke about obsessive audiophiles. That said, clipping/distortion usually won't be noticeable, but it can still give you a headache/fatigue after a couple hours of listening. That said, I don't think anybody should ever presume to tell anyone else that they can only enjoy music a certain way, so keep on doing what's working for you :thumbup:
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It was just a joke about obsessive audiophiles.
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Heh, I kinda figured as much. But the first bit of your post was perfectly believable, so I wasn't sure if the whole thing was a joke or not. Maybe your sense of humor is like my wife's. I can't tell when she is kidding half the time, either!
Audiophiles, to me are a bit of a joke, similar to most self-proclaimed "experts" concerning things that are really a matter of personal taste. One person on here mentioned a German study, where so-called "audiophiles" could not discern a low bitrate MP3 recording from a CD and other less lossy formats. I've also heard of a study where supposed wine "experts" couldn't tell cheap $10/bottle wine from an expensive vintage, when tested double blind.
Similar to what you mention, enjoy things as you like, and no need to go overboard.
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Okay so you might be saying. "It depends on what people like" or "These settings are not optimal"
Well not exactly.
I have researched all functions and have become a noobie Audiophile.
These settings aren't my "this sounds good" setting. These are chosen according on how music and headphones work.
These settings work on almost all kinds of songs! Headphones don't matter either it will enhance the headphones!
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When making such over-arching statements, it would be useful to cite your sources.
Im using the beats audio studio settings in sense 4. That Sounds quite amazing especially in my Car! Is ist possible to imitate that Sound with an equalizer of is it a kind of Audio codec and decoder that beats uses?
Let me level with you...beats is nothing more than htc's take on marketing. It's a mere equalizer tweak and a horrid one, if I may add. DSPManager or Volume+ will be better in any case.
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crestofawave said:
Let me level with you...beats is nothing more than htc's take on marketing. It's a mere equalizer tweak and a horrid one, if I may add. DSPManager or Volume+ will be better in any case.
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I actually like beats. If you have a cheap headphone like I have and don't like fideling around with EQ settings it is great makes my music sound great.
But I often find my self going back to AOSP ROMs because there faster so if anyone could post a screenshot of there current DSP settings ( I like to listen to rock/d'n'b ).
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Hi, after many months and Power Amping I decided to stop PA and use UberMusic with DSP!
Equalizer
You want to male them look like stair steps going from left to right.
Give feedback!
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I implore you to further clarify the proportion of this stairway. Moreover, will this "stairway" be ascending or descending?
I listen to mastered 50's music, and thus, if certain settings need to be altered, inform me.
Thanks, will try this out. I never know what options to change in it so DSPManager has had minimal use by me thus far.
johrie said:
I actually like beats. If you have a cheap headphone like I have and don't like fideling around with EQ settings it is great makes my music sound great.
But I often find my self going back to AOSP ROMs because there faster so if anyone could post a screenshot of there current DSP settings ( I like to listen to rock/d'n'b ).
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Thanks, will try this out. I never know what options to change in it so DSPManager has had minimal use by me thus far.
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Geez, you guys make it sound like freaking brain surgery, and its really very simple. As with just about any EQ controls, the sliders on the left are lower frequencies (bass), the right are higher (treble). Just tweak them until they sound pleasing to you. Listen to a few various types of music you like (fast/slow songs, heavy/soft ones) to find an EQ profile that works in most situations (as most of us will probably not bother changing setting just every time you change music types).
The other options on DSP are just on/off toggles. Try both on and off, and see what sounds better to you. If you don't have a preference, leave it off.
Its disappointing that so many people like being TOLD what sounds good. Instead of adjusting it to fit YOUR taste, which is the whole purpose behind the customizability of DSP. Asking someone to give you an EQ curve that's best, is like asking someone else to tell you what color is your favorite.
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Geez, you guys make it sound like freaking brain surgery, and its really very simple. As with just about any EQ controls, the sliders on the left are lower frequencies (bass), the right are higher (treble). Just tweak them until they sound pleasing to you. Listen to a few various types of music you like (fast/slow songs, heavy/soft ones) to find an EQ profile that works in most situations (as most of us will probably not bother changing setting just every time you change music types).
The other options on DSP are just on/off toggles. Try both on and off, and see what sounds better to you. If you don't have a preference, leave it off.
Its disappointing that so many people like being TOLD what sounds good. Instead of adjusting it to fit YOUR taste, which is the whole purpose behind the customizability of DSP. Asking someone to give you an EQ curve that's best, is like asking someone else to tell you what color is your favorite.
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As for me, there's no real tutorial about the equalizer like what you've just described (thanks for explaining what everything does, btw), and I don't know much about audio levels so I don't tinker with it. But I want to take advantage of the features on my ROM, and a simple "Here's how I did it, try it and see how you like it" thread like this is very helpful to myself and others in situations like mine.
No reason to think it's bad for someone to post their settings in case others want to use them. It's a positive contribution to the community, don't be disappointed. Of course it's not rocket science, but it isn't exactly elaborated well like you just posted either.
Fine by me - I don't think Beats audio adds anything. There are better EQ alternatives for us anyway.
What do you guys think?
http://m.us.wsj.com/article_email/S...40648-lMyQjAxMTAzMDEwODExNDgyWj?mg=reno64-wsj
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I would like more options to adjust the sound, at least more than NONE!.
John.
Agreed, beats is cool and all but they need to have a equalizer to adjust sound for those who don't like a flat sound...
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To an advanced user.... For your average Joe beats audio does make a difference from hearing it and when making a decision. Trust me, I've seen plenty of people sway towards HTC simply due to beats. It may he a marketing ploy, but it works.
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I like the audio boost from the beats audio integration. Definitely sounds much better with it than without it. Here on XDA it won't matter though since it's just additional tweaking of a rom to add those features on a HTC device not sure about other devices though.
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The articles that imply a "messy divorce" are just sensationlistic. HTC only owns 25% of Beats which means they exert very little influence over their direction. HP uses Beats and their branding without any ownership stake and I'm sure HTC could also by paying a licensing fee (they probably are already). Reading between the lines I'd guess that Beats' wants a more deep pocketed investor than HTC to buy their share and then some to provide additional capital Beats could use to grow their business. They tried this same thing a while ago and didn't want the buyer of HTC's share to apply any coventants (restrictions) to the deal nor prohibit the distribution of the new capital to exisiting shareholders (Beats' owners). Both of those requests are rediculous and have been dropped from this current attempt at refinancing. HTC got $150MM for the 25% of Beats they sold last year so should get something similar this year. Let's face it, they can use the money.
I listened to Beats for about 2 minutes before disabling it and never looking back. There is nothing sonically accurate or pleasing to me. I would not let that influence my decision when buying a smartphone, nor would most folks.
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Beats only sounds better when I'm plugging my phone into the car.
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I listened to Beats for about 2 minutes before disabling it and never looking back. There is nothing sonically accurate or pleasing to me. I would not let that influence my decision when buying a smartphone, nor would most folks.
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The beats stuff is just a brand name. What you are actually enabling is SRSWOW HD.
designgears said:
The beats stuff is just a brand name. What you are actually enabling is SRSWOW HD.
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Which itself is a trademarked brand name for audio tuning.
Great news for consumers and professionals around the world who love sound. DTS, Inc. is excited to announce that we have completed our acquisition of SRS Labs and we are now ONE company.
Small speakers on most portable devices often result in “ho-hum” audio experience. But, MP3 Players, iPod Docking Stations, Portable Media Players, and Portable Navigation Devices specially tuned with SRS WOW HD™
http://www.dts.com/consumers/sound-technology/mobile-tablet-audio/wow-hd.aspx
Kinda sad, it make the 'boomsound' speakers sound better for sure. And it's system-wide, I'm pretty sure you cannot get that without root.
Pretty sure the speakers were artificially limited (volume capped) without "beats" on.
And to get the same effect, use an EQ in a music app like Power Amp.
I've been trying to slowly scratch away the beats branding on my One...
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Pretty sure the speakers were artificially limited (volume capped) without "beats" on.
And to get the same effect, use an EQ in a music app like Power Amp.
I've been trying to slowly scratch away the beats branding on my One...
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use nail polish remover, comes off straight away
looks so much nicer
Just using the speakers for a quick game or most youtube videos it's better ON.
Listening to other sources, particularly a high end headphone setup definitely turn it off! With classical music it sounds like a really cheap gate opening and closing on subtle passages almost as if you're listening to a 12bit recording! Bloody awful!
If you want the speakers to play louder turn it off as well. The lower frequency range is boosted considerably with it on and this uses amplifier headroom resulting in a considerably lower maximum volume.
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use nail polish remover, comes off straight away
looks so much nicer
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I actually like the Beats logo.
Beats and poweramp is mind blowing. Beats on speaker is better than ANY dsp or eq settings, and speaker without beats sounds like pants. I prefer the beats branding to the old dolby branding on the HTD Desire HD.
Beats headphones are selling well due to advertising.
There are far, far greater implications if Beats goes through with this breakup that have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you have an optional Beats toggle on your next HTC phone.
Right now, it's more about whether or not there will even be a next HTC phone. Right now, things aren't looking good for them.
LiquidSolstice said:
Right now, it's more about whether or not there will even be a next HTC phone. Right now, things aren't looking good for them.
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At their current market cap (amount of stock outstanding times current stock price) HTC's valued at $4.4B. Based on recent investments recieved, Chinese manufacturer Xiaomi has a valuation of $10B. Why? They sell more phones in China than Apple and came up with new and unique approaches to the market that have resonated with consumers.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/77ea45d4-0bde-11e3-8f77-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2ctthNOBq
As for HTC, Peter Chou personally ruined them. By sticking to an ego-driven failing formula of trying to out "Apple" and out "Samsung" each respective company at the high-end of the market he allowed his customer base (scale) to erode irreversibly screwing up his costs (profit). And not having low/mid-scale devices and any meaningful distribution in emerging markets gave him no "plan B" when his high-end push failed. And the One, while inarguably the best device HTC's ever made, is a commercial failure. That's confirmed by HTC missing their own revenue (sales) projection in Q1 and Q2 and projecting a loss in Q3. The market believes HTC is a prime acquisition candidate because of their low valuation, especially for the Chinese manufacturers that don't have their engineering, design, and production expertise. So it's highly doubtful they'll ever go away (at least the brand) but it's equally doubtful they can continue to exist as they currently are.
It would be no great loss in my opinion? I prefer using power amp and it's graphic equalizer.
I have disabled beats on every phone I had since my sensation xe.
The fact they don't supply beats headphones as a standard on HTC high end hand sets would mean I wouldn't notice a difference.
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Correct, they have been using different max volume levels for beats on + beats off since the Sensation XE - indeed there is a mod for sensation that uses this same trick to boost beats off volume as well.