Hi, after many months and Power Amping I decided to stop PA and use UberMusic with DSP!
Now if you don't know what DSP manager is, well it is an application used to enhance music experience!
It has 5 options.
-Dynamic Range Compression
(Compresses loud sounds and amplifies quieter sounds for a "balance")
-Bass Boost
(Amplifies Bass sounds (bass guitar, "thumps" lower sounds))
-Equalizer
(Changes the sounds or levels of a song more on this later)
-Loudness Compensation
(Makes the track or sound louder leading to possible distortion)
-Virtual Room 3D effect
(Mimics a "3D" effect (think toy microphone))
Okay so you might be saying. "It depends on what people like" or "These settings are not optimal"
Well not exactly.
I have researched all functions and have become a noobie Audiophile.
These settings aren't my "this sounds good" setting. These are chosen according on how music and headphones work.
These settings work on almost all kinds of songs! Headphones don't matter either it will enhance the headphones!
Now for the settings.
For the first DYNAMIC RANGE COMPRESSION: You want to turn this completely off. And I'll explain why.
This makes the sounds leveled but amplifies or makes the track louder which leads to distortion at high levels. And one REALLY IMPORTANT REASON. Unless you have a 80's or 90's or lower song that is NOT mastered (updated) then this option is bad. All modern songs are already really compressed and most people agree.
Bass Boost:
Leave it at Slight or Medium.
some headphones have little bass and some have a lot.
Equalizer
You want to male them look like stair steps going from left to right.
Loudness compensation:
It is like Dynamic range compression but doesn't change sounds or levels them it just makes it louder...I use Voodoo Sound so its not needed but if you have an HTC or Motorola phone then set it to weak or strong to prevent distortion.
Headphone Virtual Room effect.
This option tries to make the song feel surround soundy, but it just doesn't work for most. It takes some sounds and covers them as all it does it just produce an echo effect so off.
Give feedback!
Everyone has different ears, different preferences and different headphones (not to mention different files) and there's no universal setting. All the options are there for a reason, everyone should IMHO pick what they like best.
My G2 has always had a really good bass response and really good equalization by default. Using these for only $10!!! (in silver/white color though), I get full noise cancellation while listening to music or using this fantastic app (really good for an airplane ride), fantastic bass response (better than my iPod) and other EQ greatness.
Our phones don't need any fancy audio settings
VeryCoolAlan said:
-Bass Boost
(Amplifies Bass sounds (bass guitar, "thumps" lower sounds))
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Most notes on the bass guitar are actually not bass frequencies at all, but actually low-mids. In most forms of popular music, the only thing that actually falls into bass range is the bass drum, and some synthesizer sounds.
Nice guide, If you can provide screenshots THAT'D BE GREAT!
Can you please post some snapshot of the equalizer settings?
Here are my settings. I think it might be too overkill for bass.
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What about the speakers? Did you change the settings? Cuz, I don't like how they sound :S
You can guide people in the general direction of how to tweak the settings, but ultimately, it's their ears, not yours. But nice guide I guess.
Have you tried neutron MP3 player?
It's pretty dope sawce.
Perfect for audiophiles.
Just some tips:
Never boost with EQ. It almost always has a worse effect on the sound (clipping/distortion) than cutting the other frequencies would. However, cutting volume in the digital domain reduces the bitrate, so it'll probably have a negative impact, too. Better not do that either.
Loudness boost/bass boost are just a form of EQ, so they'll add distortion, however minor, to the track. Better avoid them.
Crosstalk can cause problems once the audio is in the analog components of your device; you should get a circuit diagram, and isolate the extraneous circuits (cellular radio, gps, graphics chip, etc) by disabling them. Take the time to replace all the resistors and capacitors in the audio path at this time.
At this stage your audio should be pretty reasonable, so the next lowest-hanging fruit is room treatments. Collect blankets, mats, pillows, egg cartons, whatever is easiest to get, and attach them to all surfaces in your listening room. You need about 6" thick padding, at least. Don't even think about listening in other rooms, or when you're out and about, you'll only ruin your experience.
The penultimate preperation is to prepare yourself. To avoid soundwave refraction, wear sweats and a hoodie, and two pair of socks (one for your hands). Cue up some suitable well-mastered recording ( I recommend the '93 Decca disc of Cage's 4'33" ), swallow your general anaesthetic (don't want your noisy lungs and heart messing with the sound) and enjoy!
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Never boost with EQ. It almost always has a worse effect on the sound (clipping/distortion) than cutting the other frequencies would. However, cutting volume in the digital domain reduces the bitrate, so it'll probably have a negative impact, too. Better not do that either.
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I don't consider myself an audiophile by any means, but I know what I like when listening to music. Boosting and cutting EQ sounds just fine to me, and 99.9% of the masses will never hear any clipping (and don't own the audio equipment for it to matter), unless you really boost to the max. Same thing with cutting the freqs. And cutting/boosting to my liking always sounds vastly better to me, than a flat EQ profile.
And I can only assume your comments about replacing capacitors and putting up padding, are a joke.
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I don't consider myself an audiophile by any means, but I know what I like when listening to music. Boosting and cutting EQ sounds just fine to me, and 99.9% of the masses will never hear any clipping (and don't own the audio equipment for it to matter), unless you really boost to the max. Same thing with cutting the freqs. And cutting/boosting to my liking always sounds vastly better to me, than a flat EQ profile.
And I can only assume your comments about replacing capacitors and putting up padding, are a joke.
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It was just a joke about obsessive audiophiles. That said, clipping/distortion usually won't be noticeable, but it can still give you a headache/fatigue after a couple hours of listening. That said, I don't think anybody should ever presume to tell anyone else that they can only enjoy music a certain way, so keep on doing what's working for you :thumbup:
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It was just a joke about obsessive audiophiles.
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Heh, I kinda figured as much. But the first bit of your post was perfectly believable, so I wasn't sure if the whole thing was a joke or not. Maybe your sense of humor is like my wife's. I can't tell when she is kidding half the time, either!
Audiophiles, to me are a bit of a joke, similar to most self-proclaimed "experts" concerning things that are really a matter of personal taste. One person on here mentioned a German study, where so-called "audiophiles" could not discern a low bitrate MP3 recording from a CD and other less lossy formats. I've also heard of a study where supposed wine "experts" couldn't tell cheap $10/bottle wine from an expensive vintage, when tested double blind.
Similar to what you mention, enjoy things as you like, and no need to go overboard.
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Okay so you might be saying. "It depends on what people like" or "These settings are not optimal"
Well not exactly.
I have researched all functions and have become a noobie Audiophile.
These settings aren't my "this sounds good" setting. These are chosen according on how music and headphones work.
These settings work on almost all kinds of songs! Headphones don't matter either it will enhance the headphones!
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When making such over-arching statements, it would be useful to cite your sources.
Im using the beats audio studio settings in sense 4. That Sounds quite amazing especially in my Car! Is ist possible to imitate that Sound with an equalizer of is it a kind of Audio codec and decoder that beats uses?
Let me level with you...beats is nothing more than htc's take on marketing. It's a mere equalizer tweak and a horrid one, if I may add. DSPManager or Volume+ will be better in any case.
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crestofawave said:
Let me level with you...beats is nothing more than htc's take on marketing. It's a mere equalizer tweak and a horrid one, if I may add. DSPManager or Volume+ will be better in any case.
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I actually like beats. If you have a cheap headphone like I have and don't like fideling around with EQ settings it is great makes my music sound great.
But I often find my self going back to AOSP ROMs because there faster so if anyone could post a screenshot of there current DSP settings ( I like to listen to rock/d'n'b ).
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Hi, after many months and Power Amping I decided to stop PA and use UberMusic with DSP!
Equalizer
You want to male them look like stair steps going from left to right.
Give feedback!
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I implore you to further clarify the proportion of this stairway. Moreover, will this "stairway" be ascending or descending?
I listen to mastered 50's music, and thus, if certain settings need to be altered, inform me.
Thanks, will try this out. I never know what options to change in it so DSPManager has had minimal use by me thus far.
johrie said:
I actually like beats. If you have a cheap headphone like I have and don't like fideling around with EQ settings it is great makes my music sound great.
But I often find my self going back to AOSP ROMs because there faster so if anyone could post a screenshot of there current DSP settings ( I like to listen to rock/d'n'b ).
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Proxin said:
Thanks, will try this out. I never know what options to change in it so DSPManager has had minimal use by me thus far.
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Geez, you guys make it sound like freaking brain surgery, and its really very simple. As with just about any EQ controls, the sliders on the left are lower frequencies (bass), the right are higher (treble). Just tweak them until they sound pleasing to you. Listen to a few various types of music you like (fast/slow songs, heavy/soft ones) to find an EQ profile that works in most situations (as most of us will probably not bother changing setting just every time you change music types).
The other options on DSP are just on/off toggles. Try both on and off, and see what sounds better to you. If you don't have a preference, leave it off.
Its disappointing that so many people like being TOLD what sounds good. Instead of adjusting it to fit YOUR taste, which is the whole purpose behind the customizability of DSP. Asking someone to give you an EQ curve that's best, is like asking someone else to tell you what color is your favorite.
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Geez, you guys make it sound like freaking brain surgery, and its really very simple. As with just about any EQ controls, the sliders on the left are lower frequencies (bass), the right are higher (treble). Just tweak them until they sound pleasing to you. Listen to a few various types of music you like (fast/slow songs, heavy/soft ones) to find an EQ profile that works in most situations (as most of us will probably not bother changing setting just every time you change music types).
The other options on DSP are just on/off toggles. Try both on and off, and see what sounds better to you. If you don't have a preference, leave it off.
Its disappointing that so many people like being TOLD what sounds good. Instead of adjusting it to fit YOUR taste, which is the whole purpose behind the customizability of DSP. Asking someone to give you an EQ curve that's best, is like asking someone else to tell you what color is your favorite.
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As for me, there's no real tutorial about the equalizer like what you've just described (thanks for explaining what everything does, btw), and I don't know much about audio levels so I don't tinker with it. But I want to take advantage of the features on my ROM, and a simple "Here's how I did it, try it and see how you like it" thread like this is very helpful to myself and others in situations like mine.
No reason to think it's bad for someone to post their settings in case others want to use them. It's a positive contribution to the community, don't be disappointed. Of course it's not rocket science, but it isn't exactly elaborated well like you just posted either.
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Did any one else have the same experience?
The SQ of music on Android seems to be a LOT better than on WinMO?
BTW I am using the nuForce NE-6 IEMs found here:
http://www.amazon.com/NuForce-NE-7M-Earphones-iPhone-Compatible/dp/B001BL8BO4
did u install SRS WOW HD sound driver for windows Mobiles??
Good observation
Yeah it really is a big difference in quality...I'm glad someone else noticed it. i really like to listen to music on the headphones now! Oh and Srs Wow only alters frequencies...the quality and clearness is still average.
Yup I did and even then the sound on android looks like it has more stereo separation and more dynamics and sounds deeper whereas the same on winmo sounded too flat even with SRS WOW...
Just the opposite for me, but I use pocket player rather than relying on core player or winmo player. PP offers features to numerous for the average Joe (that's me) to fully use, but the equalizer and fader/balance control are excellent.
Maybe Android market offers some nice players, but with so many limitations in the current HD2 Android offerings, I'm sticking with WinMo and keeping an eye out for the lil' robot just for giggles.
Really better on android form me!!!
really nice work dev!
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I thought I was imagining things, but apparently I wasn't
I don't get why playing audio in windows mobile is so hard, it sounds worse than it should be and there is always a half of a second pause between songs.
I use S2P on winmo and I must admit the electrical noise from the device is not good - it is best when device is idle and screen off, but tbh it's pretty crap on both winmo AND android....I am using Westone UM2s and ATH-CK100s with ACS custom sleeves and I hear a LOT of electrical noise in both Oses.
I even near noise with the stock earbuds - dud phone? or do you think I'm sensitive?
It is important to note that the audio deficiencies are clearest with classical music, opera, vocals, jazz etc. Not so much with pop+rock etc.
Actually I was listening to Indian music with a lot of vocals. As the above poster said the difference is more apperant musical with a lot of vocals.
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try dsp manager
should have effect
ok.. please someone tell me there is a hack or something..
I bought this phone to replace all my gadgets I use for my bike. MP3 player, Cycle computer,heart monitor.
I had knee surgery and just now being able to do some small bike riding again..
I loaded up my songs and played them through my S9 headset (blue tooth)
WTF, at max volume its not going to work with a 20mph head wind.. Let alone, just relaxing outside with no wind, max volume seems to be decent, but far from loud.
Then I tried my dads Jabra bluetooth headphones. .Same thing.
Then I tried Skull candy plug in headphones, no change.
I finally plugged it into my friends Iphone, and holy #@#$ at 3/4 volume it plenty loud let alone full blast.
I read on another forum that there might be a hackfor this.. I know there are a couple audio hacks but I think it might only be for the external speaker, and I don't really want to do that..
So tell, please there is a way, other wise well.... it would suck marjory
Could be your files are too soft.
All I can tell you is that plugged in using my Skullcandy FMJ's or Koss insulating buds, I can't go above 3/4 volume without getting ringing in my ears. Full volume on my RF-MAB2's is fairly loud, though admittedly they don't insulate against ambient sound well (nor do they focus audio down the ear canal properly...).
I'm guessing you're using a Stock ROM, right? Try out CyanogenMod 6.1.2. It's got a better Bluetooth stack (for your BT headphones), better music player, and even a DSP manager.
drmacinyasha said:
Could be your files are too soft.
All I can tell you is that plugged in using my Skullcandy FMJ's or Koss insulating buds, I can't go above 3/4 volume without getting ringing in my ears. Full volume on my RF-MAB2's is fairly loud, though admittedly they don't insulate against ambient sound well (nor do they focus audio down the ear canal properly...).
I'm guessing you're using a Stock ROM, right? Try out CyanogenMod 6.1.2. It's got a better Bluetooth stack (for your BT headphones), better music player, and even a DSP manager.
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same my bose make my ears ring if i go to high
Im using Fresh 3.5 rom.
Not stock..
its pretty obvious when I compare it to an Iphone that the EVO is extremely weak in this department.. I love this phone, I would even call it an Iphone killer. but I would get rid of it, if it can't do something simple like play music through headphones.. (at level beyond decent)
Mixzing paid app has a 10 band EQ that you can crank up.
fastfed said:
Im using Fresh 3.5 rom.
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Fresh is a stock-based ROM. Therefore it has all of the Stock ROM's disadvantages; crappy software, bad bluetooth stack, poor audio drivers, etc.
fastfed said:
its pretty obvious when I compare it to an Iphone that the EVO is extremely weak in this department.. I love this phone, I would even call it an Iphone killer. but I would get rid of it, if it can't do something simple like play music through headphones.. (at level beyond decent)
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The iPhone also has iTunes automatically adjust the volume of files to be normalized, and rather than edit the files directly, transfers that adjustment as part of the meta-data which the iPhone in turn reads and uses. The EVO does not have this advantage. Again, try CM 6.1.2 and play with the DSP Manager. You'll be surprised.
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Fresh is a stock-based ROM. Therefore it has all of the Stock ROM's disadvantages; crappy software, bad bluetooth stack, poor audio drivers, etc.
The iPhone also has iTunes automatically adjust the volume of files to be normalized, and rather than edit the files directly, transfers that adjustment as part of the meta-data which the iPhone in turn reads and uses. The EVO does not have this advantage. Again, try CM 6.1.2 and play with the DSP Manager. You'll be surprised.
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Cm, has no 4g right? has no sense right?
I mean come on, is this what it has to come down to?
I mean I will do what I have to do..
Can someone give me a quick instruction on how to mess with my music files to make them louder again.. I remember doing this way back in the day, I can adjust things with the actual file themselves..
PowerAMP
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Must be your phone. I'm running a stock rom with a cheap set of ear buds and 3/4 is all I want.
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fastfed said:
ok.. please someone tell me there is a hack or something..
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the "hack" is CM with dsp manager.
p.s. are you plugging the wired headphones all the way in? i ask because i do a little bit of cycling and use cheapo wal-mart ear buds and still run about 75% volume.
p.p.s. maybe you're going deaf?
Some Sense ROMs include DSP manager.
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fastfed said:
Cm, has no 4g right? has no sense right?
I mean come on, is this what it has to come down to?
I mean I will do what I have to do..
Can someone give me a quick instruction on how to mess with my music files to make them louder again.. I remember doing this way back in the day, I can adjust things with the actual file themselves..
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CyanogenMod does have WiMax (kinda, it's in an alpha build, which also boosts the speed on your 3G). And as for Sense, hell no. Sense is a bloated POS smacked on Android.
As for the music file audio, look up dBpoweramp. It has the ability to do so in batch. But like the other posters in this thread, I think that either you're going deaf, you're not connected all the way, or there's some sort of hardware/wetware issue going on.
seems like you might have an issue with your phone or you have an issue with your rom, i'd try flashing a different rom before anything else.
I have the s9-hd's and don't turn them all the way up and they sound great . I also have various headphones and never turn them all the way up either.
You guys obviously don't ride..its a very common issue..I'm not going deaf..its called 20 mph head wind or more average..search on this forum for volume as the topic, you will see pages of the same issue..a real shame is all I gotta say.. That's 2for the iphone
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Hey I cycle too and never really found a cure to the head wind trying all kinds of styles of headphones (even the big over the ear dj headphones), don't blame the phone, cause its obviously a headphones issue. And I too agree you may be going deaf cause I never have to turn my headphones all the way up, I find myself constantly turning them down. Power Amp has a pre amp feature that can really crank up the volume if its ever needed. Also try looking for some insulated ear buds like these: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX36V...1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295127403&sr=8-1-fkmr0
Due to the weather I haven't tried them outside yet but im sure these will be better than the S9's, which I also own and are not to fond of them, ( crappy sound and fit) esp when on the bike.
fastfed said:
You guys obviously don't ride..its a very common issue..I'm not going deaf..its called 20 mph head wind or more average..search on this forum for volume as the topic, you will see pages of the same issue..a real shame is all I gotta say.. That's 2for the iphone
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Mmmkay, y'know, we're trying to help, but you just wanna bash on the EVO, so go ahead. Return it to Sprint, and go get an iPhone if it's so wonderful. Really.
drmacinyasha said:
Mmmkay, y'know, we're trying to help, but you just wanna bash on the EVO, so go ahead. Return it to Sprint, and go get an iPhone if it's so wonderful. Really.
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Wow he wasn't bashing the Evo. I did a comparison too and the Iphone does have louder sounds. It was already stated that's because Itunes does some magical **** to your music for you. Other than migrating to CM (Believe it or not but some people dont mind Sense @ all especially when using mikofroyo) you can use poweramp which does have an equalizer and it will boost the sound. Just make sure you got good headphones to handle the boost because it blew my walmart pair.Or you can find a prog that will do some magical **** to your music files like Itunes.
Yep power amp has a pre amp and eq...i use fresh rom, and power amp is loud
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phatmanxxl said:
Hey I cycle too and never really found a cure to the head wind trying all kinds of styles of headphones (even the big over the ear dj headphones), don't blame the phone, cause its obviously a headphones issue. And I too agree you may be going deaf cause I never have to turn my headphones all the way up, I find myself constantly turning them down. Power Amp has a pre amp feature that can really crank up the volume if its ever needed. Also try looking for some insulated ear buds like these: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX36V...1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295127403&sr=8-1-fkmr0
Due to the weather I haven't tried them outside yet but im sure these will be better than the S9's, which I also own and are not to fond of them, ( crappy sound and fit) esp when on the bike.
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FAR from deaf.. Actually had a huge ear test during my interview with being a 911, dispatcher.. And you need to have perfect hearing.. WHICH IS DO..
I figured it out..
And the fact still remains, for the person saying "Im bashing your precious EVO, WHICH I LOVE AND OWN TOO"
THE IPHONE IS MUCH MUCH LOUDER, HANDS DOWN FACT!! Don't like it? Maybe you should return your phone then..
I took all my music files and used a program called mp3gain (Free) and brought all files to 100DB's
Which doens't distort the sound. I also wanted to tell you phatmanxxl, those headphones you linked are wired.. My EVo is mounted on my bike, so I need bluetooth headphones..
in anycase I use A pair of Jabra BT620 head phones.. They are a bigger style but finally PLENTY LOUD.. Actually only keep it at about 70% volume or so..
http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-BT620s-Bluetooth®-headset-Bluetooth/dp/B000E7YSWK
fastfed said:
FAR from deaf.. Actually had a huge ear test during my interview with being a 911, dispatcher.. And you need to have perfect hearing.. WHICH IS DO..
I figured it out..
And the fact still remains, for the person saying "Im bashing your precious EVO, WHICH I LOVE AND OWN TOO"
THE IPHONE IS MUCH MUCH LOUDER, HANDS DOWN FACT!! Don't like it? Maybe you should return your phone then..
I took all my music files and used a program called mp3gain (Free) and brought all files to 100DB's
Which doens't distort the sound. I also wanted to tell you phatmanxxl, those headphones you linked are wired.. My EVo is mounted on my bike, so I need bluetooth headphones..
in anycase I use A pair of Jabra BT620 head phones.. They are a bigger style but finally PLENTY LOUD.. Actually only keep it at about 70% volume or so..
http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-BT620s-Bluetooth®-headset-Bluetooth/dp/B000E7YSWK
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Lol you can't say the iphone is louder. You would have to test that with the SAME music files, and have the volume normalization off as you import the files into itunes. Also for a rom that has the audio built in thats sense, look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
It also has the dsp manager, and 4g and everything.
I've been reading rave reviews about Supercurio's Voodoo Sound and was interested in giving it a try but it requires a kernel update. Does anyone know if there is a kernel for the Fascinate that supports Voodoo Sound?
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871915
Rexxe said:
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871915
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Yes, supercurio put in some serious Q & A time over the weekend.
yeah it was fun. the kernel is amazing.
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What does everyone use for settings in Voodoo Sound? I am also using my favorite app PowerAmp and I wanted to see if anyone else was using that combo and what equalizer/preamp/headphone amp settings other people were using.
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What does everyone use for settings in Voodoo Sound? I am also using my favorite app PowerAmp and I wanted to see if anyone else was using that combo and what equalizer/preamp/headphone amp settings other people were using.
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EQ settings are going to depend largely on your headphones. I also use poweramp and for the moment have turned the EQ off so that i can get comfortable listening to the effect of the new sound driver. My normal listening headphones are a set of klipsch Image S4s which frankly for the money ($79) sound quite good, but are a little too strong in the midrange and roll off too quickly up top.
Typically with the poweramp EQ I've been cutting a little in the upper midrange and boosting a little up top to compensate for this, but after a few minutes listening to the new sound driver with the SNR boost and 128x oversampling enabled, i don't think i'm going to need as much boost on the top end.
I'll play with the EQ later after my ears adjust, but i'm really looking forward to Supercurio implementing the EQ in his app so that i can use it as a global EQ for all sources (especially since i listen through the same headphones all the time).
This Voodoo Sound kernel sounds excellent using PowerAmp and my equalizer settings. If you're interested in my equalizer setup, I've attached a picture. I'm using my Grado Sr60i headphones right now, I haven't tried out the new Voodoo sound kernal on my Koss Ksc75 headphones yet, however.
I listen to my phones music primarily through a cassette adapter to my car stereo. Will this new kernel have any real effect my music or not
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I listen to my phones music primarily through a cassette adapter to my car stereo. Will this new kernel have any real effect my music or not
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It should, but I don't know how noticeable it will be. It seems that most people say that it's a very noticeable difference, so you could test it and find out.
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EQ settings are going to depend largely on your headphones. I also use poweramp and for the moment have turned the EQ off so that i can get comfortable listening to the effect of the new sound driver. My normal listening headphones are a set of klipsch Image S4s which frankly for the money ($79) sound quite good, but are a little too strong in the midrange and roll off too quickly up top.
Typically with the poweramp EQ I've been cutting a little in the upper midrange and boosting a little up top to compensate for this, but after a few minutes listening to the new sound driver with the SNR boost and 128x oversampling enabled, i don't think i'm going to need as much boost on the top end.
I'll play with the EQ later after my ears adjust, but i'm really looking forward to Supercurio implementing the EQ in his app so that i can use it as a global EQ for all sources (especially since i listen through the same headphones all the time).
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Funny enough I just bought these headphones today at best buy! I can't agree enough, for the money they are easily as good as my Shures that cost about 60 bucks more. When you find out what you think are good settings could you maybe PM to me? I need to get some flac files on here to set it up properly, but I just don't feel like getting rid of some of my music in order to make space for flac versions. TLDR PM me your settings please!
Is anyone else having issues with bluetooth audio out? Like, it's not audible at all...
Benew0 said:
Funny enough I just bought these headphones today at best buy! I can't agree enough, for the money they are easily as good as my Shures that cost about 60 bucks more. When you find out what you think are good settings could you maybe PM to me? I need to get some flac files on here to set it up properly, but I just don't feel like getting rid of some of my music in order to make space for flac versions. TLDR PM me your settings please!
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Once I get comfortable with the new voodoo sound, i'll post up or pm you some settings.
I can tell you that the new kernel has me really questioning some of my source material. Everything without it was pretty muddy, which is why I had to cut around 2k iirc and boost the top end, but with voodoo most if my stuff sounds fantastic dead flat except for a few files which is causing me to to doubt the quality of the conversion.
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ya so far I am pretty amazed at having everything on flat, my voodoo amp at -8 db and then checking just the DAC 1.5 db gain. I'm not sure what exactly either of those check boxes does and it may be all in my head, (there always seems to be a constant battle between my head and ears) but maybe you could enlighten me as to what the benefits are of those 2 check boxes?
From supercurio
"oversampling improve the digital filtering quality of the signal before it's sent to the DAC, and makes the DAC runs at a higher rate.
It reduces the distortion and improve the SNR too a little bit, but mostly, it helps filter high frequencies people cannot hear but only feel and it acts on the listening fatigue."
Also from Supercurio
"Internally, the audio codec reserve some headroom for the signal, allowing to do some processing without reaching saturating levels.
The +1.5dB SNR boost disable this conservative settings using a non-documented trick and now a lot of people tested it: looks like it cause 0 issue!
It makes the sound +1.5dB louder without creating any noise. As consequence, the signal to noise ratio is also improved by +1.5dB.
It's all good"
Okay, with my earbuds, which are not the cheapest, but not super high dollar, I thought this sounded pretty good. Then tonight I plugged my phone into my car stereo (2008 Jeep with factory Infinity premium audio system). H...O...L...Y...C...O...W...! I thought my ears were going to burst into flames. I actually had to crank down the EQ settings in PowerAMP some, because the bass and treble were absolutely ridiculous. I think I've got it set to a pretty good level now, but it still thumps the subwoofer pretty good. And the clarity in general is unreal. I'm hearing things in my mp3s that I've never heard before because the levels were so muddy, even with PowerAMP's EQ. Anybody with decent speakers who has installed this sound fix knows exactly what I mean, and those that haven't most definitely should.
Meh, and to think I was considering $300+ on an aftermarket head unit to get more power, when all I needed to do was add a few lines of code to my phone. I think Samsung needs to fire all their programmers and start over, because they're insanely crippling their hardware with crap code. I think the Galaxy S phones really would be the Android equivalent of the iPhone right now, in terms of cult following, if people only knew how good the hardware really is. Sorry Motorola, but the Droid X has got absolutely nothin' on this phone in the hardware department. You can keep your few extra pixels.
ivorycruncher said:
I think Samsung needs to fire all their programmers and start over, because they're insanely crippling their hardware with crap code.
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Actually, it looks like supercurio pitched a plan to Samsung for them to use the community (and, of course, help it by releasing beta source, etc) to overhaul their phone software strategy. Good luck to him.
Wow, if he pulls that off, that would be awesome.
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Hi!
I have i9100 phone and it is amazing, but i have a problem with earphone output.
I try it with original earphone and Sennheiser too, when it pluged, no music just surf in menu i can hear quiet noise. The noise is louder when i tap an icon and after that it fade.
In my opinion the music quality is not so good.
Have anybody the same noise?
Yep, I've got the same quiet noise on mine aswell. Also had it on my previous 4 Galaxy SII's. You need good ears to catch it, and it needs to be pretty much silent in the room youre in to be able to hear it.
Just got to live with it unfortunately.
drm111 said:
Yep, I've got the same quiet noise on mine aswell. Also had it on my previous 4 Galaxy SII's. You need good ears to catch it, and it needs to be pretty much silent in the room youre in to be able to hear it.
Just got to live with it unfortunately.
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same here - think this has to do with weak em shielding...
maybee supercurio can do something about that, but if it's really related to poor
shielding i fear this would not be possible!
Oh, that is not a good thing.
I agree, but it's by no means limited to the SGS2. Nearly every computer I've used (including Macs) have some sort of interference when doing CPU intensive work.
There's a long thread discussing this. A couple of us with high-end headsets got different results. I have Shure 530s and hear no side noise from the phone while idling or listening to music. Someone with the exact same headset does. No one knows why.
David Horn said:
I agree, but it's by no means limited to the SGS2. Nearly every computer I've used (including Macs) have some sort of interference when doing CPU intensive work.
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That's why I always use a discrete souns card... I usually have this problem with integrated audio.
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I'm wondering if my phone is defective!
All of my previous phones from iphones, android, etc. have always been able to produce high frequency sounds from their internal speakers. To 20KHz and beyond. I was shocked to find that this phone can't, even 15K, 12K, even 10K falls silent from the speaker! At 15KHz at full volume there is strange distortion like hissing and a buzzing sound. App used is free from play store, called function generator. This is actually quite important to be able to generate these tones and a deal breaker for me!
Try it once and tell me the results. Most good ears can hear 15K, it's close the whine of an old CRT TV set. And 10K, uck that should be heard by anyone under 60 or so, very annoyingly loud. I hope this is just a fluke, going to pair to my jambox, try headphones, etc.
The speaker itself sounds pretty decent for the phone function and gets plenty loud.
One thing I did notice is the lack of "fuzzy" sound on visual voice mail which could be a clue to a sharp high frequency roll off as these artifacts are in the higher frequency range. Just as if you fry a tweeter on a two way system and all you're left with is a woofer, going to be rather dull, even muffled!
My phone is able to produce those high frequency sounds so it sounds (no pun intended) like you have a hardware issue.
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mg2195 said:
My phone is able to produce those high frequency sounds so it sounds (no pun intended) like you have a hardware issue.
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Thanks for checking, it appears this is somewhat of a false alarm! The hardware seems OK as I can use other apps that can generate this signal and it works fine. The function generator app (downloaded again) is just broken with the S4.
This phone will keep the app devs busy it seems.