I've been reading rave reviews about Supercurio's Voodoo Sound and was interested in giving it a try but it requires a kernel update. Does anyone know if there is a kernel for the Fascinate that supports Voodoo Sound?
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871915
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871915
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Yes, supercurio put in some serious Q & A time over the weekend.
yeah it was fun. the kernel is amazing.
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What does everyone use for settings in Voodoo Sound? I am also using my favorite app PowerAmp and I wanted to see if anyone else was using that combo and what equalizer/preamp/headphone amp settings other people were using.
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What does everyone use for settings in Voodoo Sound? I am also using my favorite app PowerAmp and I wanted to see if anyone else was using that combo and what equalizer/preamp/headphone amp settings other people were using.
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EQ settings are going to depend largely on your headphones. I also use poweramp and for the moment have turned the EQ off so that i can get comfortable listening to the effect of the new sound driver. My normal listening headphones are a set of klipsch Image S4s which frankly for the money ($79) sound quite good, but are a little too strong in the midrange and roll off too quickly up top.
Typically with the poweramp EQ I've been cutting a little in the upper midrange and boosting a little up top to compensate for this, but after a few minutes listening to the new sound driver with the SNR boost and 128x oversampling enabled, i don't think i'm going to need as much boost on the top end.
I'll play with the EQ later after my ears adjust, but i'm really looking forward to Supercurio implementing the EQ in his app so that i can use it as a global EQ for all sources (especially since i listen through the same headphones all the time).
This Voodoo Sound kernel sounds excellent using PowerAmp and my equalizer settings. If you're interested in my equalizer setup, I've attached a picture. I'm using my Grado Sr60i headphones right now, I haven't tried out the new Voodoo sound kernal on my Koss Ksc75 headphones yet, however.
I listen to my phones music primarily through a cassette adapter to my car stereo. Will this new kernel have any real effect my music or not
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I listen to my phones music primarily through a cassette adapter to my car stereo. Will this new kernel have any real effect my music or not
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It should, but I don't know how noticeable it will be. It seems that most people say that it's a very noticeable difference, so you could test it and find out.
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EQ settings are going to depend largely on your headphones. I also use poweramp and for the moment have turned the EQ off so that i can get comfortable listening to the effect of the new sound driver. My normal listening headphones are a set of klipsch Image S4s which frankly for the money ($79) sound quite good, but are a little too strong in the midrange and roll off too quickly up top.
Typically with the poweramp EQ I've been cutting a little in the upper midrange and boosting a little up top to compensate for this, but after a few minutes listening to the new sound driver with the SNR boost and 128x oversampling enabled, i don't think i'm going to need as much boost on the top end.
I'll play with the EQ later after my ears adjust, but i'm really looking forward to Supercurio implementing the EQ in his app so that i can use it as a global EQ for all sources (especially since i listen through the same headphones all the time).
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Funny enough I just bought these headphones today at best buy! I can't agree enough, for the money they are easily as good as my Shures that cost about 60 bucks more. When you find out what you think are good settings could you maybe PM to me? I need to get some flac files on here to set it up properly, but I just don't feel like getting rid of some of my music in order to make space for flac versions. TLDR PM me your settings please!
Is anyone else having issues with bluetooth audio out? Like, it's not audible at all...
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Funny enough I just bought these headphones today at best buy! I can't agree enough, for the money they are easily as good as my Shures that cost about 60 bucks more. When you find out what you think are good settings could you maybe PM to me? I need to get some flac files on here to set it up properly, but I just don't feel like getting rid of some of my music in order to make space for flac versions. TLDR PM me your settings please!
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Once I get comfortable with the new voodoo sound, i'll post up or pm you some settings.
I can tell you that the new kernel has me really questioning some of my source material. Everything without it was pretty muddy, which is why I had to cut around 2k iirc and boost the top end, but with voodoo most if my stuff sounds fantastic dead flat except for a few files which is causing me to to doubt the quality of the conversion.
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ya so far I am pretty amazed at having everything on flat, my voodoo amp at -8 db and then checking just the DAC 1.5 db gain. I'm not sure what exactly either of those check boxes does and it may be all in my head, (there always seems to be a constant battle between my head and ears) but maybe you could enlighten me as to what the benefits are of those 2 check boxes?
From supercurio
"oversampling improve the digital filtering quality of the signal before it's sent to the DAC, and makes the DAC runs at a higher rate.
It reduces the distortion and improve the SNR too a little bit, but mostly, it helps filter high frequencies people cannot hear but only feel and it acts on the listening fatigue."
Also from Supercurio
"Internally, the audio codec reserve some headroom for the signal, allowing to do some processing without reaching saturating levels.
The +1.5dB SNR boost disable this conservative settings using a non-documented trick and now a lot of people tested it: looks like it cause 0 issue!
It makes the sound +1.5dB louder without creating any noise. As consequence, the signal to noise ratio is also improved by +1.5dB.
It's all good"
Okay, with my earbuds, which are not the cheapest, but not super high dollar, I thought this sounded pretty good. Then tonight I plugged my phone into my car stereo (2008 Jeep with factory Infinity premium audio system). H...O...L...Y...C...O...W...! I thought my ears were going to burst into flames. I actually had to crank down the EQ settings in PowerAMP some, because the bass and treble were absolutely ridiculous. I think I've got it set to a pretty good level now, but it still thumps the subwoofer pretty good. And the clarity in general is unreal. I'm hearing things in my mp3s that I've never heard before because the levels were so muddy, even with PowerAMP's EQ. Anybody with decent speakers who has installed this sound fix knows exactly what I mean, and those that haven't most definitely should.
Meh, and to think I was considering $300+ on an aftermarket head unit to get more power, when all I needed to do was add a few lines of code to my phone. I think Samsung needs to fire all their programmers and start over, because they're insanely crippling their hardware with crap code. I think the Galaxy S phones really would be the Android equivalent of the iPhone right now, in terms of cult following, if people only knew how good the hardware really is. Sorry Motorola, but the Droid X has got absolutely nothin' on this phone in the hardware department. You can keep your few extra pixels.
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I think Samsung needs to fire all their programmers and start over, because they're insanely crippling their hardware with crap code.
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Actually, it looks like supercurio pitched a plan to Samsung for them to use the community (and, of course, help it by releasing beta source, etc) to overhaul their phone software strategy. Good luck to him.
Wow, if he pulls that off, that would be awesome.
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ok.. please someone tell me there is a hack or something..
I bought this phone to replace all my gadgets I use for my bike. MP3 player, Cycle computer,heart monitor.
I had knee surgery and just now being able to do some small bike riding again..
I loaded up my songs and played them through my S9 headset (blue tooth)
WTF, at max volume its not going to work with a 20mph head wind.. Let alone, just relaxing outside with no wind, max volume seems to be decent, but far from loud.
Then I tried my dads Jabra bluetooth headphones. .Same thing.
Then I tried Skull candy plug in headphones, no change.
I finally plugged it into my friends Iphone, and holy #@#$ at 3/4 volume it plenty loud let alone full blast.
I read on another forum that there might be a hackfor this.. I know there are a couple audio hacks but I think it might only be for the external speaker, and I don't really want to do that..
So tell, please there is a way, other wise well.... it would suck marjory
Could be your files are too soft.
All I can tell you is that plugged in using my Skullcandy FMJ's or Koss insulating buds, I can't go above 3/4 volume without getting ringing in my ears. Full volume on my RF-MAB2's is fairly loud, though admittedly they don't insulate against ambient sound well (nor do they focus audio down the ear canal properly...).
I'm guessing you're using a Stock ROM, right? Try out CyanogenMod 6.1.2. It's got a better Bluetooth stack (for your BT headphones), better music player, and even a DSP manager.
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Could be your files are too soft.
All I can tell you is that plugged in using my Skullcandy FMJ's or Koss insulating buds, I can't go above 3/4 volume without getting ringing in my ears. Full volume on my RF-MAB2's is fairly loud, though admittedly they don't insulate against ambient sound well (nor do they focus audio down the ear canal properly...).
I'm guessing you're using a Stock ROM, right? Try out CyanogenMod 6.1.2. It's got a better Bluetooth stack (for your BT headphones), better music player, and even a DSP manager.
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same my bose make my ears ring if i go to high
Im using Fresh 3.5 rom.
Not stock..
its pretty obvious when I compare it to an Iphone that the EVO is extremely weak in this department.. I love this phone, I would even call it an Iphone killer. but I would get rid of it, if it can't do something simple like play music through headphones.. (at level beyond decent)
Mixzing paid app has a 10 band EQ that you can crank up.
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Fresh is a stock-based ROM. Therefore it has all of the Stock ROM's disadvantages; crappy software, bad bluetooth stack, poor audio drivers, etc.
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its pretty obvious when I compare it to an Iphone that the EVO is extremely weak in this department.. I love this phone, I would even call it an Iphone killer. but I would get rid of it, if it can't do something simple like play music through headphones.. (at level beyond decent)
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The iPhone also has iTunes automatically adjust the volume of files to be normalized, and rather than edit the files directly, transfers that adjustment as part of the meta-data which the iPhone in turn reads and uses. The EVO does not have this advantage. Again, try CM 6.1.2 and play with the DSP Manager. You'll be surprised.
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Fresh is a stock-based ROM. Therefore it has all of the Stock ROM's disadvantages; crappy software, bad bluetooth stack, poor audio drivers, etc.
The iPhone also has iTunes automatically adjust the volume of files to be normalized, and rather than edit the files directly, transfers that adjustment as part of the meta-data which the iPhone in turn reads and uses. The EVO does not have this advantage. Again, try CM 6.1.2 and play with the DSP Manager. You'll be surprised.
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Cm, has no 4g right? has no sense right?
I mean come on, is this what it has to come down to?
I mean I will do what I have to do..
Can someone give me a quick instruction on how to mess with my music files to make them louder again.. I remember doing this way back in the day, I can adjust things with the actual file themselves..
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Must be your phone. I'm running a stock rom with a cheap set of ear buds and 3/4 is all I want.
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ok.. please someone tell me there is a hack or something..
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the "hack" is CM with dsp manager.
p.s. are you plugging the wired headphones all the way in? i ask because i do a little bit of cycling and use cheapo wal-mart ear buds and still run about 75% volume.
p.p.s. maybe you're going deaf?
Some Sense ROMs include DSP manager.
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Cm, has no 4g right? has no sense right?
I mean come on, is this what it has to come down to?
I mean I will do what I have to do..
Can someone give me a quick instruction on how to mess with my music files to make them louder again.. I remember doing this way back in the day, I can adjust things with the actual file themselves..
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CyanogenMod does have WiMax (kinda, it's in an alpha build, which also boosts the speed on your 3G). And as for Sense, hell no. Sense is a bloated POS smacked on Android.
As for the music file audio, look up dBpoweramp. It has the ability to do so in batch. But like the other posters in this thread, I think that either you're going deaf, you're not connected all the way, or there's some sort of hardware/wetware issue going on.
seems like you might have an issue with your phone or you have an issue with your rom, i'd try flashing a different rom before anything else.
I have the s9-hd's and don't turn them all the way up and they sound great . I also have various headphones and never turn them all the way up either.
You guys obviously don't ride..its a very common issue..I'm not going deaf..its called 20 mph head wind or more average..search on this forum for volume as the topic, you will see pages of the same issue..a real shame is all I gotta say.. That's 2for the iphone
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Hey I cycle too and never really found a cure to the head wind trying all kinds of styles of headphones (even the big over the ear dj headphones), don't blame the phone, cause its obviously a headphones issue. And I too agree you may be going deaf cause I never have to turn my headphones all the way up, I find myself constantly turning them down. Power Amp has a pre amp feature that can really crank up the volume if its ever needed. Also try looking for some insulated ear buds like these: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX36V...1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295127403&sr=8-1-fkmr0
Due to the weather I haven't tried them outside yet but im sure these will be better than the S9's, which I also own and are not to fond of them, ( crappy sound and fit) esp when on the bike.
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You guys obviously don't ride..its a very common issue..I'm not going deaf..its called 20 mph head wind or more average..search on this forum for volume as the topic, you will see pages of the same issue..a real shame is all I gotta say.. That's 2for the iphone
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Mmmkay, y'know, we're trying to help, but you just wanna bash on the EVO, so go ahead. Return it to Sprint, and go get an iPhone if it's so wonderful. Really.
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Mmmkay, y'know, we're trying to help, but you just wanna bash on the EVO, so go ahead. Return it to Sprint, and go get an iPhone if it's so wonderful. Really.
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Wow he wasn't bashing the Evo. I did a comparison too and the Iphone does have louder sounds. It was already stated that's because Itunes does some magical **** to your music for you. Other than migrating to CM (Believe it or not but some people dont mind Sense @ all especially when using mikofroyo) you can use poweramp which does have an equalizer and it will boost the sound. Just make sure you got good headphones to handle the boost because it blew my walmart pair.Or you can find a prog that will do some magical **** to your music files like Itunes.
Yep power amp has a pre amp and eq...i use fresh rom, and power amp is loud
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Hey I cycle too and never really found a cure to the head wind trying all kinds of styles of headphones (even the big over the ear dj headphones), don't blame the phone, cause its obviously a headphones issue. And I too agree you may be going deaf cause I never have to turn my headphones all the way up, I find myself constantly turning them down. Power Amp has a pre amp feature that can really crank up the volume if its ever needed. Also try looking for some insulated ear buds like these: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX36V...1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295127403&sr=8-1-fkmr0
Due to the weather I haven't tried them outside yet but im sure these will be better than the S9's, which I also own and are not to fond of them, ( crappy sound and fit) esp when on the bike.
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FAR from deaf.. Actually had a huge ear test during my interview with being a 911, dispatcher.. And you need to have perfect hearing.. WHICH IS DO..
I figured it out..
And the fact still remains, for the person saying "Im bashing your precious EVO, WHICH I LOVE AND OWN TOO"
THE IPHONE IS MUCH MUCH LOUDER, HANDS DOWN FACT!! Don't like it? Maybe you should return your phone then..
I took all my music files and used a program called mp3gain (Free) and brought all files to 100DB's
Which doens't distort the sound. I also wanted to tell you phatmanxxl, those headphones you linked are wired.. My EVo is mounted on my bike, so I need bluetooth headphones..
in anycase I use A pair of Jabra BT620 head phones.. They are a bigger style but finally PLENTY LOUD.. Actually only keep it at about 70% volume or so..
http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-BT620s-Bluetooth®-headset-Bluetooth/dp/B000E7YSWK
fastfed said:
FAR from deaf.. Actually had a huge ear test during my interview with being a 911, dispatcher.. And you need to have perfect hearing.. WHICH IS DO..
I figured it out..
And the fact still remains, for the person saying "Im bashing your precious EVO, WHICH I LOVE AND OWN TOO"
THE IPHONE IS MUCH MUCH LOUDER, HANDS DOWN FACT!! Don't like it? Maybe you should return your phone then..
I took all my music files and used a program called mp3gain (Free) and brought all files to 100DB's
Which doens't distort the sound. I also wanted to tell you phatmanxxl, those headphones you linked are wired.. My EVo is mounted on my bike, so I need bluetooth headphones..
in anycase I use A pair of Jabra BT620 head phones.. They are a bigger style but finally PLENTY LOUD.. Actually only keep it at about 70% volume or so..
http://www.amazon.com/Jabra-BT620s-Bluetooth®-headset-Bluetooth/dp/B000E7YSWK
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Lol you can't say the iphone is louder. You would have to test that with the SAME music files, and have the volume normalization off as you import the files into itunes. Also for a rom that has the audio built in thats sense, look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
It also has the dsp manager, and 4g and everything.
I really want to install Voodoo Control Plus however I'm a total tech novice and haven't got a clue on how to get it to install and work. Anyone kind enough out there to give me the quickest most simplest (and least dangerous) method of being able to setup the app? My main emphasis is going to be on changing as little as possible. I would love to play around with root access and custom roms and stuff but in my own time and once I've became a bit more experienced with android phones and the community.
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I really want to install Voodoo Control Plus however I'm a total tech novice and haven't got a clue on how to get it to install and work. Anyone kind enough out there to give me the quickest most simplest (and least dangerous) method of being able to setup the app? My main emphasis is going to be on changing as little as possible. I would love to play around with root access and custom roms and stuff but in my own time and once I've became a bit more experienced with android phones and the community.
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I dont think that voodoo control plus supports sgs ii
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Dang that sucks.. well I hope there will be support for it in the future.
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Dang that sucks.. well I hope there will be support for it in the future.
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http://project-voodoo.org/
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http://project-voodoo.org/
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there is support for i9000.as far as I read supercurio not going to support s2 with voodoo
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there is support for i9000.as far as I read supercurio not going to support s2 with voodoo
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really and why is that?
sewe said:
really and why is that?
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Time i would guess .
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JJEgan said:
Time i would guess .
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ok make sense in a way, but too bad if it is really true.
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Time i would guess .
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Not time, but unfortunately not much room for improvement.
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really and why is that?
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hardware limitations. supercurio was essentially able to develop voodoo for wolfson dac based devices as the defects back then were software based and were solved by rewriting some of the buggy code.
The yamaha dac used in SGSII meanwhile has some critical hardware flaws that can only be resolved at the production/design level by the manufacturer. As an independent user just like the rest of us, all supercurio can do now is to feedback his findings to yamaha and hope they resolve the issues in future batches of their dac...
That's basically what I gather from supercurio's twitter posts and his reasoning for not pursing voodoo sound on the SGSII.
I wonder though if the color banding seen on the sgs2 is also caused by the sharpness filters mentioned in the voodoo project.
I sold the S2 and went back to the original Galaxy S with voodoo sound mod.
The difference is day and night ...... and the Galaxy S has far far more volume for driving headphones.
I did prefer the S2 screen and camera, but the sound was just truly horrible. With no prospect of a sound fix on the Yamaha card and no word of a volume boost there was no point going on with the S2.
Sadly, if playing music is a priority then the S2 is not for you!
Keith
kradcliffe said:
I sold the S2 and went back to the original Galaxy S with voodoo sound mod.
The difference is day and night ...... and the Galaxy S has far far more volume for driving headphones.
I did prefer the S2 screen and camera, but the sound was just truly horrible. With no prospect of a sound fix on the Yamaha card and no word of a volume boost there was no point going on with the S2.
Sadly, if playing music is a priority then the S2 is not for you!
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Volume+ boosts the volume fine on my SGS2....
All volume+ does is rack up all the frequencies on the system EQ and it sounds terrible.
Enable Volume+ then look at the curve it sets with the equalizer app. It's not a volume boost as such rather an EQ boost that makes the distortion worse!
Keith
FWIW I don't find the sound that bad on the SGS2 using Classic Equaliser and Normal sound effect... yes it could be a touch louder, but it compared OK with my Sony NWZ-S639 walkman which was highly regarded for its sound quality a couple of years back, I also had an iphone 4 beforehand.
I'm not saying the SGS2 is perfect for audio playback, far from it, but it is COMPLETELY blown out of proportion on here.
Bit of a noob question here but I'm finding it difficult to find clear info on this.
I've just switched from an iPhone 3G to the SGS2 and the volume on the SGS2 (with every band maxed in the equaliser) is only about 2/3 of what my iPhone maxed was outputting (nothing too scientific - I just listened to the same track on my SGS2 as my iPhone with the SGS2 headphones).
From reading this I get the impression that this is the highest volume I'll ever be able to get from the SGS2 because the audio hardware is kinda lousy - is that right? Or is there any other way I can boost the output?
Sometimes i think I'm crazy; I'm using the S2 with the lowest possible volume output with my custom molded earphones (almost no resistance) but even with high resistance headphones (eg. a 300ohm beyer dynamic) it's still more then loud enough for me. What bothers me though it that the dac chip is just crap soundwise, low on stereo seperation and an enormous boost for midrange tones; as if the headphone output is meant to be used as a headset for crips and loud talks.
My desire hd had a better sound output (which was still louzy).
can any one shed some light on service mode *#197328640# i read somewhere online but could not find any difference....
[5]audio > [3]WB > ....headset...
This depends on the headphones I can't go Anywhere near half on the sgs its just too loud. If your using high resistance headphones get an amp ?
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If supercurious has not time working on a SGS2 version he should give the source codes to sgs2 devs over here!
This is a community after all and the sgs2 screen is more modable than sgs1 because we already have ''background effects'' that we can change
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135247
I use poweramp for music and on headphones the volume really sucks. Its low and distorted. I have tried volume + but it is still real low. My samsung vibrant sounds great. Am i expecting too much from the transformer? Im on 3.1 if that means anything.
maybe worth trying a different headphone... mine works pretty well with the stock player..
I did not want to open a new thread but the sound on mine is really low too and just yesterday the was no sound on the right speaker, is there a fix or should i return it.
Thanks
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maybe worth trying a different headphone... mine works pretty well with the stock player..
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Nah, I have dozens of headphones and they all sound low or bad on the transformer but sound loud and great on pretty much everything else.
I love my TF but as a sound device it just really blows.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099852
DSP manager really improved the quality of the sound coming out. I was using some big driver earphones that would deafen you out of most devices so volume wasnt an issue, just lack of bass.
Use an app called volume+
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Use an app called volume+
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In my OP I state that Volume + does nothing. It just make the sound distorted and is still way too low. Looking into DSP manager......
Oyeve said:
In my OP I state that Volume + does nothing. It just make the sound distorted and is still way too low. Looking into DSP manager......
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that's Weird,
Mine's quite loud,
it hurts my ear if it to max volume,
see if you can have access to another TF and try out the headphone
are you on stock kernel by the way?
andyxover said:
that's Weird,
Mine's quite loud,
it hurts my ear if it to max volume,
see if you can have access to another TF and try out the headphone
are you on stock kernel by the way?
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Are you half-owl or something? The audio on this tablet blows!
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Are you half-owl or something? The audio on this tablet blows!
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Lol ya I was thinking the same thing, seriously don't think it's possible to hurt your ears, but that Volume+ app actually did help mine quite a bit, it's decent now but worlds away from the iPad or the Playbook.
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that's Weird,
Mine's quite loud,
it hurts my ear if it to max volume,
see if you can have access to another TF and try out the headphone
are you on stock kernel by the way?
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Yes, stock kernel. Have no access to another TF.
Too loud for you? Man, are you over 50/60? J/K, my 50 year old GF always thinks my sound is too loud but I have above normal hearing and can hear a pin drop across the highway. So when I say the TF sound is low, its really low. And it sounds like ass too. I don;t know why they hype SRS speakers unless SRS means Sounds Really ****ty in Asus' kingdom. I am in the process of searching to a replacement HW dac for this as it is really bad. The built-ins are ok for built-ins but the HP jack should have much better sound with any headphone I put in. My cell phone sounds 100 times better and at least 4x louder than the TF.
Try grabbing someone else's TF and compare its performance with yours; it may have a defective socket. My first one had this horrible distorting sound from its headphone-out, turns out to be a hardware issue. My second one works well, and actually sounds nice - how does Zune HD-like sound quality and volume sound to you?
Headphone amp on the transformer is actually awesome. It's the same one on the Galaxy S. It just needs a better driver. Try Voodoo Control App Plus by Supercurio in the Market. I have it but it requires root so I haven't used it yet. On my Samsung Fascinate, it makes my in ear monitors louder than I can handle.
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I just bought mine last week and headphone output sounds great. The speakers are not the loudest but the sound sharp and clear. Sounds like a hardware issue.
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Are you half-owl or something? The audio on this tablet blows!
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Why are you still here????? Arent you suppose to be at the 10.1 forum??? Or I forgot that side of the forum is dead......
ove read a lot of threads where people say their volume sucks. Mine is oud as hell, i actually have to turn it down sometimes.
yes, mine is also quite loud. it is comparable to other devices and my phone. not sure why some ppl said the volume too low.. maybe they are comparing to their home theatre speakers LOL
VoodooSound should help with this, I hope it will be released soon for Transformer.
edit: it's already there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132875
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yes, mine is also quite loud. it is comparable to other devices and my phone. not sure why some ppl said the volume too low.. maybe they are comparing to their home theatre speakers LOL
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yes maybe we should have a standard on this. mine sure is loud. don't need to be louder.
Ok, latest update: Last night I was playing with the TF and using PowerAmp and playing the same mp3 file on both the TF and my Vibrant (Comfortable Numb BTW) and using same EQ settings, my phone was at least 200% louder than my TF using max volume and same headphones. I got pissed off at the TF and ripped out the jack and slammed it back in a few times.......well guess what, the TF volume went up about 50% more. Wondering if it was a loose solder connection or something. So, music is tolerable on my TF now, but it is still low compared to my other androidesque devices.
So of all the android phones, is there any phones out there that has a better sound quality than the SGS line?
I know it's better than the evo 3d a far as playing movies I put on our from the computer. Anything over 1.5gb and this thing won't play it. Never had that problem with my vibrant.
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No.. all android phones have ****ty sound quality and samsung is the only android maker that specializrs in sound entertainment and has been for years..
If I were Motorola or HTC or Apple even for that matter I would start buying the samsung speakers and putting them in my phone. I swear i've never heard such a tiny little friggen thing get so loud. If I play pandora for background music and turn it up, it's impossible to hear anything else lol. It's like a mini boombox.
And for the giant apple is, and how they are all about "music" and that jazz you think they would have a free mp3 downloader somewhere?? or that there speaker on their phone would actually put out some sound. I know quiet a few people with Iphones, if I ever don't like what their playing I just turn on mine.
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If I were Motorola or HTC or Apple even for that matter I would start buying the samsung speakers and putting them in my phone. I swear i've never heard such a tiny little friggen thing get so loud. If I play pandora for background music and turn it up, it's impossible to hear anything else lol. It's like a mini boombox.
And for the giant apple is, and how they are all about "music" and that jazz you think they would have a free mp3 downloader somewhere?? or that there speaker on their phone would actually put out some sound. I know quiet a few people with Iphones, if I ever don't like what their playing I just turn on mine.
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Yeah, the speaker is great on my Vibrant.
But to the bs you sprouted about Apple having a free mp3 downloader...please say you were trolling.
Owning a vibrant I would have to say it has a decent sound quality.. I am using the trial version of Poweramp right now and it gives you advanced options to adjust the sound of your music.
One app: voodoo control. Win!
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geoffcorey said:
One app: voodoo control. Win!
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I also thought about that voodoo sound is what makes it even greater.
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i've always found that sony ericsson devices have great speaker clarity and volume levels. Nokia tends to be adaquate, but not ideal for walking down a busy street.
the htc evo 3d sounds better than my vibrant when played through headphones.
Am I the only one with a ****ty speaker then? Seriously, mine is horrible. I don't recall ever actually 'hearing' my phone ring, the fact that they called it vibrant was self explanatory to me then lol
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Voodoo sound makes this thing sound better than anything else I've even listened HQ M4As on. It kicks the ass of even the best batch of iPod you can find.
Abu-7abash said:
Am I the only one with a ****ty speaker then? Seriously, mine is horrible. I don't recall ever actually 'hearing' my phone ring, the fact that they called it vibrant was self explanatory to me then lol
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I think something is wrong with it, the Vibrant has a very loud and good speaker...
even without Voodoo sound....
About the sound quality, the SGS comes very close to Ipods...the soundchip they use is good (read many reviews) but the sound from the SGSII is bad compared to other phones (also read many reviews about it).
I feel Vibrant is better.
sroach23 said:
the htc evo 3d sounds better than my vibrant when played through headphones.
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Even with voodoo?
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havent tried vodoo sound yet.
the only problems i have with the music player on this phone has to do with a stock ROM issue causing the sound drivers to not work properly after leaving the phone on for 12+ hrs. a reboot fixes but pain in the ass
Speakers do blow also... Your speaker could be blown. Mine was, it didn't crackle or anything but it only worked at half the volume it should have... It just randomly happened.
Best music player, eh? If you're talking about playing music through the speaker on the player, then absolutely not. It's just good enough to use as a speaker phone, but sound quality through the Galaxy S's speaker is about as weak as you'd expect, meaning no bass to speak of and very little in the way of clarity.
Now if you're talking about as a music player more as an iPod replacement AKA using it with headphones, then I'd say the Galaxy S has the best sound of any system I've used as long as you use decent headphones or IEMs. For instance, if you go the Skullcandy or Jbuds route, the Galaxy S performs about as well as any other music player.
However, if you do some research and pick out a nice set of sub-$100 IEMs, like the MEElectronics M9 series ($13 to $20), MEElectronics M6 ($20 to $30), Brainwavz M1 ($35 to $46), NuForce NE-700X ($60 to $75), or my personal favorite MEElectronics A151 ($50 to $75)? Well, then the Galaxy S will send out clear, unadultered sound that a quality pair of IEMs can turn into jaw-droppingly beautiful music.
Of course, you'll need to do your research, test out different IEMs, and most importantly, find a perfect set of tips that give you the best seal (poor seal = tiny sound and weak bass). You'll also want the latest Voodoo, but use as little processing as possible. No more than the Voodoo AMP if possible.
No, I'm not an audiophile. I just play one on the internetz.
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the only problems i have with the music player on this phone has to do with a stock ROM issue causing the sound drivers to not work properly after leaving the phone on for 12+ hrs. a reboot fixes but pain in the ass
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thats just one of the many reasons u shudnt use stock
Hi, after many months and Power Amping I decided to stop PA and use UberMusic with DSP!
Now if you don't know what DSP manager is, well it is an application used to enhance music experience!
It has 5 options.
-Dynamic Range Compression
(Compresses loud sounds and amplifies quieter sounds for a "balance")
-Bass Boost
(Amplifies Bass sounds (bass guitar, "thumps" lower sounds))
-Equalizer
(Changes the sounds or levels of a song more on this later)
-Loudness Compensation
(Makes the track or sound louder leading to possible distortion)
-Virtual Room 3D effect
(Mimics a "3D" effect (think toy microphone))
Okay so you might be saying. "It depends on what people like" or "These settings are not optimal"
Well not exactly.
I have researched all functions and have become a noobie Audiophile.
These settings aren't my "this sounds good" setting. These are chosen according on how music and headphones work.
These settings work on almost all kinds of songs! Headphones don't matter either it will enhance the headphones!
Now for the settings.
For the first DYNAMIC RANGE COMPRESSION: You want to turn this completely off. And I'll explain why.
This makes the sounds leveled but amplifies or makes the track louder which leads to distortion at high levels. And one REALLY IMPORTANT REASON. Unless you have a 80's or 90's or lower song that is NOT mastered (updated) then this option is bad. All modern songs are already really compressed and most people agree.
Bass Boost:
Leave it at Slight or Medium.
some headphones have little bass and some have a lot.
Equalizer
You want to male them look like stair steps going from left to right.
Loudness compensation:
It is like Dynamic range compression but doesn't change sounds or levels them it just makes it louder...I use Voodoo Sound so its not needed but if you have an HTC or Motorola phone then set it to weak or strong to prevent distortion.
Headphone Virtual Room effect.
This option tries to make the song feel surround soundy, but it just doesn't work for most. It takes some sounds and covers them as all it does it just produce an echo effect so off.
Give feedback!
Everyone has different ears, different preferences and different headphones (not to mention different files) and there's no universal setting. All the options are there for a reason, everyone should IMHO pick what they like best.
My G2 has always had a really good bass response and really good equalization by default. Using these for only $10!!! (in silver/white color though), I get full noise cancellation while listening to music or using this fantastic app (really good for an airplane ride), fantastic bass response (better than my iPod) and other EQ greatness.
Our phones don't need any fancy audio settings
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-Bass Boost
(Amplifies Bass sounds (bass guitar, "thumps" lower sounds))
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Most notes on the bass guitar are actually not bass frequencies at all, but actually low-mids. In most forms of popular music, the only thing that actually falls into bass range is the bass drum, and some synthesizer sounds.
Nice guide, If you can provide screenshots THAT'D BE GREAT!
Can you please post some snapshot of the equalizer settings?
Here are my settings. I think it might be too overkill for bass.
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What about the speakers? Did you change the settings? Cuz, I don't like how they sound :S
You can guide people in the general direction of how to tweak the settings, but ultimately, it's their ears, not yours. But nice guide I guess.
Have you tried neutron MP3 player?
It's pretty dope sawce.
Perfect for audiophiles.
Just some tips:
Never boost with EQ. It almost always has a worse effect on the sound (clipping/distortion) than cutting the other frequencies would. However, cutting volume in the digital domain reduces the bitrate, so it'll probably have a negative impact, too. Better not do that either.
Loudness boost/bass boost are just a form of EQ, so they'll add distortion, however minor, to the track. Better avoid them.
Crosstalk can cause problems once the audio is in the analog components of your device; you should get a circuit diagram, and isolate the extraneous circuits (cellular radio, gps, graphics chip, etc) by disabling them. Take the time to replace all the resistors and capacitors in the audio path at this time.
At this stage your audio should be pretty reasonable, so the next lowest-hanging fruit is room treatments. Collect blankets, mats, pillows, egg cartons, whatever is easiest to get, and attach them to all surfaces in your listening room. You need about 6" thick padding, at least. Don't even think about listening in other rooms, or when you're out and about, you'll only ruin your experience.
The penultimate preperation is to prepare yourself. To avoid soundwave refraction, wear sweats and a hoodie, and two pair of socks (one for your hands). Cue up some suitable well-mastered recording ( I recommend the '93 Decca disc of Cage's 4'33" ), swallow your general anaesthetic (don't want your noisy lungs and heart messing with the sound) and enjoy!
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Never boost with EQ. It almost always has a worse effect on the sound (clipping/distortion) than cutting the other frequencies would. However, cutting volume in the digital domain reduces the bitrate, so it'll probably have a negative impact, too. Better not do that either.
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I don't consider myself an audiophile by any means, but I know what I like when listening to music. Boosting and cutting EQ sounds just fine to me, and 99.9% of the masses will never hear any clipping (and don't own the audio equipment for it to matter), unless you really boost to the max. Same thing with cutting the freqs. And cutting/boosting to my liking always sounds vastly better to me, than a flat EQ profile.
And I can only assume your comments about replacing capacitors and putting up padding, are a joke.
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I don't consider myself an audiophile by any means, but I know what I like when listening to music. Boosting and cutting EQ sounds just fine to me, and 99.9% of the masses will never hear any clipping (and don't own the audio equipment for it to matter), unless you really boost to the max. Same thing with cutting the freqs. And cutting/boosting to my liking always sounds vastly better to me, than a flat EQ profile.
And I can only assume your comments about replacing capacitors and putting up padding, are a joke.
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It was just a joke about obsessive audiophiles. That said, clipping/distortion usually won't be noticeable, but it can still give you a headache/fatigue after a couple hours of listening. That said, I don't think anybody should ever presume to tell anyone else that they can only enjoy music a certain way, so keep on doing what's working for you :thumbup:
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It was just a joke about obsessive audiophiles.
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Heh, I kinda figured as much. But the first bit of your post was perfectly believable, so I wasn't sure if the whole thing was a joke or not. Maybe your sense of humor is like my wife's. I can't tell when she is kidding half the time, either!
Audiophiles, to me are a bit of a joke, similar to most self-proclaimed "experts" concerning things that are really a matter of personal taste. One person on here mentioned a German study, where so-called "audiophiles" could not discern a low bitrate MP3 recording from a CD and other less lossy formats. I've also heard of a study where supposed wine "experts" couldn't tell cheap $10/bottle wine from an expensive vintage, when tested double blind.
Similar to what you mention, enjoy things as you like, and no need to go overboard.
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Okay so you might be saying. "It depends on what people like" or "These settings are not optimal"
Well not exactly.
I have researched all functions and have become a noobie Audiophile.
These settings aren't my "this sounds good" setting. These are chosen according on how music and headphones work.
These settings work on almost all kinds of songs! Headphones don't matter either it will enhance the headphones!
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When making such over-arching statements, it would be useful to cite your sources.
Im using the beats audio studio settings in sense 4. That Sounds quite amazing especially in my Car! Is ist possible to imitate that Sound with an equalizer of is it a kind of Audio codec and decoder that beats uses?
Let me level with you...beats is nothing more than htc's take on marketing. It's a mere equalizer tweak and a horrid one, if I may add. DSPManager or Volume+ will be better in any case.
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crestofawave said:
Let me level with you...beats is nothing more than htc's take on marketing. It's a mere equalizer tweak and a horrid one, if I may add. DSPManager or Volume+ will be better in any case.
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I actually like beats. If you have a cheap headphone like I have and don't like fideling around with EQ settings it is great makes my music sound great.
But I often find my self going back to AOSP ROMs because there faster so if anyone could post a screenshot of there current DSP settings ( I like to listen to rock/d'n'b ).
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Hi, after many months and Power Amping I decided to stop PA and use UberMusic with DSP!
Equalizer
You want to male them look like stair steps going from left to right.
Give feedback!
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I implore you to further clarify the proportion of this stairway. Moreover, will this "stairway" be ascending or descending?
I listen to mastered 50's music, and thus, if certain settings need to be altered, inform me.
Thanks, will try this out. I never know what options to change in it so DSPManager has had minimal use by me thus far.
johrie said:
I actually like beats. If you have a cheap headphone like I have and don't like fideling around with EQ settings it is great makes my music sound great.
But I often find my self going back to AOSP ROMs because there faster so if anyone could post a screenshot of there current DSP settings ( I like to listen to rock/d'n'b ).
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Proxin said:
Thanks, will try this out. I never know what options to change in it so DSPManager has had minimal use by me thus far.
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Geez, you guys make it sound like freaking brain surgery, and its really very simple. As with just about any EQ controls, the sliders on the left are lower frequencies (bass), the right are higher (treble). Just tweak them until they sound pleasing to you. Listen to a few various types of music you like (fast/slow songs, heavy/soft ones) to find an EQ profile that works in most situations (as most of us will probably not bother changing setting just every time you change music types).
The other options on DSP are just on/off toggles. Try both on and off, and see what sounds better to you. If you don't have a preference, leave it off.
Its disappointing that so many people like being TOLD what sounds good. Instead of adjusting it to fit YOUR taste, which is the whole purpose behind the customizability of DSP. Asking someone to give you an EQ curve that's best, is like asking someone else to tell you what color is your favorite.
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Geez, you guys make it sound like freaking brain surgery, and its really very simple. As with just about any EQ controls, the sliders on the left are lower frequencies (bass), the right are higher (treble). Just tweak them until they sound pleasing to you. Listen to a few various types of music you like (fast/slow songs, heavy/soft ones) to find an EQ profile that works in most situations (as most of us will probably not bother changing setting just every time you change music types).
The other options on DSP are just on/off toggles. Try both on and off, and see what sounds better to you. If you don't have a preference, leave it off.
Its disappointing that so many people like being TOLD what sounds good. Instead of adjusting it to fit YOUR taste, which is the whole purpose behind the customizability of DSP. Asking someone to give you an EQ curve that's best, is like asking someone else to tell you what color is your favorite.
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As for me, there's no real tutorial about the equalizer like what you've just described (thanks for explaining what everything does, btw), and I don't know much about audio levels so I don't tinker with it. But I want to take advantage of the features on my ROM, and a simple "Here's how I did it, try it and see how you like it" thread like this is very helpful to myself and others in situations like mine.
No reason to think it's bad for someone to post their settings in case others want to use them. It's a positive contribution to the community, don't be disappointed. Of course it's not rocket science, but it isn't exactly elaborated well like you just posted either.