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I just bought a HTC HD2 from tmobile. I don't have data plan, and would like to prevent my phone from accessing data plan. Is there any thing I can do to prevent phone from accessing the data, just don't want to pay for data plan fee.
10507 said:
I just bought a HTC HD2 from tmobile. I don't have data plan, and would like to prevent my phone from accessing data plan. Is there any thing I can do to prevent phone from accessing the data, just don't want to pay for data plan fee.
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Try NoData. Also, how much did you pay for the phone if you don't mind me asking?
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Try NoData. Also, how much did you pay for the phone if you don't mind me asking?
Cheers.
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Do you have the link for NoData? I traded in my nokia nuron, which was free when sign up with tmobile, for the HD2. I end up paying extra $100 for the HD2. So out of pocket, I paid $100 for the phone.......Hope that was a good deal
10507 said:
I just bought a HTC HD2 from tmobile. I don't have data plan, and would like to prevent my phone from accessing data plan. Is there any thing I can do to prevent phone from accessing the data, just don't want to pay for data plan fee.
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Very interesting. I've been tmobile customer since last 2009. I had European Touch Pro 2 and i went with even more plus plan which means you are buying no contract devices, i don't pay data plan. and i never paid single penny for not having data plan. I know when i accidently pressed internet, and my phone was connected to 3g, but i never paid it. I was assuming that tmobile didn't charged me for not having data plan. Weird.
10507 said:
Do you have the link for NoData? I traded in my nokia nuron, which was free when sign up with tmobile, for the HD2. I end up paying extra $100 for the HD2. So out of pocket, I paid $100 for the phone.......Hope that was a good deal
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I'm pretty sure this is the one that poisonwolf is referring to, I used it for that purpose on my TP2.
sirphunkee said:
I'm pretty sure this is the one that poisonwolf is referring to, I used it for that purpose on my TP2.
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Hey Phunkee,
Was the NoData app updated for Windows Mobile 6.5? I didn't really follow it too closely. I'm also not certain if there were major internal registry restructuring for Windows Mobile 6.5.
P.S. I caved.
10507 said:
I just bought a HTC HD2 from tmobile. I don't have data plan, and would like to prevent my phone from accessing data plan. Is there any thing I can do to prevent phone from accessing the data, just don't want to pay for data plan fee.
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I'm using pay per use.
I don't use HTC Sense so I don't have to worry about this. I have not tried the cab file, but there are manual options to turn off automatic data download. If HTC Sense is on, select Weather => Menu => Settings and unselect Download Data Automatically. The options are the same for the Stock ticker.
What I have done in the past when I have given my brother my old smart phones is I call up and tell them to block data on the phone. This last time however, I gave him my myTouch 3G and all I did was make sure that his line didn't have data. Even though his phone says 3G on it, when you try to connect to the internet, it doesn't load.
You can also use BsB tweaks to disable the data connection - I do this when my 200MB monthly allowance runs out.
BSB tweaks
BSB tweaks> menu> data connections> disable
I also like to press the phone button,> menu options> change baseband> Network type: GSM. this turns off 3g.
PoisonWolf said:
Hey Phunkee,
Was the NoData app updated for Windows Mobile 6.5? I didn't really follow it too closely. I'm also not certain if there were major internal registry restructuring for Windows Mobile 6.5.
P.S. I caved.
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I sent you a PM
10507 said:
Do you have the link for NoData? I traded in my nokia nuron, which was free when sign up with tmobile, for the HD2. I end up paying extra $100 for the HD2. So out of pocket, I paid $100 for the phone.......Hope that was a good deal
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If you got a discount on the phone you will have to pay the data plan.
I just got the $20 unlimited plan from T-mo. I have been with them for 5 years and read somewhere on XDA that T-mo was offering (but not telling everyone) about the plan. I was paying $24.99 originally and after reading the post I called them and was switched. I have unlimited web and email also works well...Tj
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I just got the $20 unlimited plan from T-mo. I have been with them for 5 years and read somewhere on XDA that T-mo was offering (but not telling everyone) about the plan. I was paying $24.99 originally and after reading the post I called them and was switched. I have unlimited web and email also works well...Tj
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+1 yea i did that too, had to speak with 2 different customer service reps but was totally worth it.
sirphunkee said:
I'm pretty sure this is the one that poisonwolf is referring to, I used it for that purpose on my TP2.
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I think you might be able to go to Comm Manager and click on the Data Connection and click it to off?!
toreone said:
I think you might be able to go to Comm Manager and click on the Data Connection and click it to off?!
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Yeah that will work to switch it off immediately at any time, but doing that still allows apps to call up the 3G connection again whenever they want. The cab should make it so that nothing can access data, even processes that normally use it to auto-update (weather, twitter, etc)
Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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I hit 10GB last month (don't ask; had to travel a lot and no free wifi access) but never experienced any throttling. I didn't go over by much, but I never got a message and a check on speedtest showed full throughput.
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Thanks for you input, now we know for sure. So, the changes is from 10 GB no throttling to 5 GB with throttling.
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Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010
laristech said:
Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010
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Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
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Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
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What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?
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What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?
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Carrier should be doing that in the first place. A recent FCC ruling made it mandatory for ATT to warn the customer when they are about to go over the limit.
I know I will never use the 10 GB (even though the thread title is tethering limit, I actually do not tether), but having something that I used to have (paying for), ripped out of my hands just like that just doesn't feel good.
We don't have a tethering limit, you can blame those that do tether excessively for the reduction in the limit
I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this
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I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this
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It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.
From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
Just my two cents
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PaiPiePia said:
It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)
ward360 said:
From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
Just my two cents
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It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..
I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
/vent
Its unlimited, just not full speed after 5gb.
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It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..
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Yea, I hear you there, between my wifes phone and my phone we drop alot on mobile internet, and I do tether when needed, but I by no means abuse it, I use about 200 megs a month, through tmoble. I use anywhere from 5 to 60 gigs through my home internet, comcast caps you at 250 gigs a month.
Both companys are just trying to hold up the abusers, file sharing is a major issue, (if I hit anywhere over 10 gigs at home it is because of file sharing)
The abusers are the issue, when one person uses as much as 200 other users it becomes an issue.
I don't agree with it, but I can totally see why they do it. It won't affect 99.99% of user's. And the ones that it does are probably doing things they aren't supposed to.
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Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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I don't believe T-Mobile ever condoned the use of tethering on any of their devices.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)
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Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.
I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
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I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
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The call center reps are not qualified to make that distinction because of their lack of knowledge about the terms of agreement that you had to sign. They will tell you anything to make you happy, that is their job. This is not limited to T-Mobile of course. If you want to a definitive answer then just check your contract. It will state what restrictions there are for the data plan. I had to pull out the contract to make sure I followed the terms of agreement when I was messing with the firmware on a Clear modem they sent me so I could use it with my router and accidentally bricked the modem. I argued for 30 minutes with the rep for a new modem because she believed that messing with firmware for the modem constituted to abusive use of their devices without stating what is abusive use. She sounded pretty new to the job too.
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Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.
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Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).
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Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).
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Nothing is stopping you or your family and friends from changing providers. That is why there is a free market, don't like on service provider go to the next and so on and so forth. I am not trying to cause an argument, but the old adage, you can't have one's cake and eat it too, applies here.
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I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
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They are not doing much because (which I just learned the other day) that taxes on cell phone usage (monthly plan) where I live is stunning 18%.
FCC probably want your bill to be as high as possible.
Now, this thread isn't really about tethering, I started because of the fact that T-mobile is reducing the amount from 10 GB to 5 GB. I understand the fair use policy so an artificial cap is fine with me, but don't lower the cap for everyone just because a few people are tethering to their phone, scale those who use more and charge them more.
Now, you might ask: If you never needed more bandwidth, why do you care?
There's distinction of being punished because you did something wrong yourself and there's being punished as a group because of someone else' mistake. If I can have 10 GB a month, I want to keep it at 10 GB a month irregardless of whether I used it up, it's the principle that counts: I signed up knowing there's 10 GB a month of bandwidth and it needs to stay that way.
Sup guys,
I've been tethering with my vibrant for about 9 months. Yesterday I went online with tethering and got redirected to a Tmobile tethering page prompting me to enroll in a tethering plan. Is this new? Did I miss something?
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What method are you using to tether?
Mobile AP.
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It does that to me on my pc but not my mac.
no problems here.
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Mobile AP.
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what's your approximate monthly data usage? are you downloading large files consistently while tethering?
Ive been using the built in tethering in most roms and have yet to have an issue since august of last year.
if you are using excessive data while tethering it may be throwing a red flag to tmobile cuz they can monitor what sites you visit as well as the user agent and the only reason i think they would do that is if you are abusively using your data connection
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Regularly exceed 5GB a month and you'll most likely get your account flagged.
Install 3g watchdog. It'll give you a heads up before you incriminate yourself.
I use tethering and wi-fi hotspots occasionally and have never been flagged. I don't know if I just don't use enough data or I'm just lucky.
Try using a different browser. I get that redirected to that page when I use Chrome, but not when I use Internet Exploder. Also, for some reason, I still can use certain pages on Chrome (Facebook, Gmail) but even a simple Goog search will bring up the "Tmo tethering..." page for me. I find the URL of the page quite amusing as well.
I haven't had that page pop up for a while and still under the even more plan. For a while I was only able to use 100MB befor I was flagged. But now I don't know why I am not flagged nor do I care until I have to renew.
SeanFloyd said:
Sup guys,
I've been tethering with my vibrant for about 9 months. Yesterday I went online with tethering and got redirected to a Tmobile tethering page prompting me to enroll in a tethering plan. Is this new? Did I miss something?
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Not trying to stir things up, but why don't you just get:
a) tethering plan
b) home dsl/broadband
c) mobile web for whatever device you tethering to
You are paying for web access on your phone. Meaning surfing the web on your phone, downloading on your phone, watching videos on your phone, sending and receiving pics and multimedia on your phone, email, etc.
If you must tether to have web access on a different device, then you should pay for it.
NO, paying for unlimited web on your phone doesn't entitle you to "tether" that web access to other devices.
You can't afford an extra 15 bucks a month for dsl extreme? Then maybe you shouldn't be owning a smartphone if you are tight on cash
www.dslextreme.com
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Not trying to stir things up, but
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I 100% agree with you, man. But seriously, all you're doing with this is stirring things up.
SamsungVibrant said:
Not trying to stir things up, but why don't you just get:
a) tethering plan
b) home dsl/broadband
c) mobile web for whatever device you tethering to
You are paying for web access on your phone. Meaning surfing the web on your phone, downloading on your phone, watching videos on your phone, sending and receiving pics and multimedia on your phone, email, etc.
If you must tether to have web access on a different device, then you should pay for it.
NO, paying for unlimited web on your phone doesn't entitle you to "tether" that web access to other devices.
You can't afford an extra 15 bucks a month for dsl extreme? Then maybe you shouldn't be owning a smartphone if you are tight on cash
www.dslextreme.com
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you are stirring things up so just shut the F*ck up and mind your own business instead of telling other people how they should use or pay for their data. For a second I thought I was watching the Dr. Phil show.
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Not trying to stir things up...
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I'll chime in here. I recently changed my plan and they had put me on the 2gb which wasn't what I wanted. I had them change it back to 5gb and am paying the extra monthly. That said I consistently stay under 1gb because I'm usually near wifi and don't use my phone for excessive file downloads or anything. I recently went to Disney and had some school tests to take online while there. Rather than pay Disney $10 a day I decided to tether.
So are you saying that my extra 4gb a month that I don't use should just be ignored and I should have still paid the Disney fee because hey its a phone plan not an internet plan. Should I have to worry that T-Mobile is going to stop us from using this tool when we need it.
I agree that if someone is consistently using all or more of there data for tethering then yeah maybe they should be flagged but users like me who use it properly shouldn't have to be worried.
This of course is beside the fact that it shouldn't matter how I choose to use my data. What would be next? T-Mobile deciding that we can't go to sites such as YouTube because streaming videos uses too much bandwidth or I can't let my daughter go to Disney.com because its flash intensive and again uses too much bandwidth. If its 5gb or 2gb or unlimited then that's what it should be not only if you use it in a certain manner prescribed by some suit at T-Mobile who doesn't have to pay for his service anyway and therefore doesn't really understand how normal customers use the service.
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Thanks to homie who said try another browser.
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I'll chime in here. I recently changed my plan and they had put me on the 2gb which wasn't what I wanted. I had them change it back to 5gb and am paying the extra monthly. That said I consistently stay under 1gb because I'm usually near wifi and don't use my phone for excessive file downloads or anything. I recently went to Disney and had some school tests to take online while there. Rather than pay Disney $10 a day I decided to tether.
So are you saying that my extra 4gb a month that I don't use should just be ignored and I should have still paid the Disney fee because hey its a phone plan not an internet plan. Should I have to worry that T-Mobile is going to stop us from using this tool when we need it.
I agree that if someone is consistently using all or more of there data for tethering then yeah maybe they should be flagged but users like me who use it properly shouldn't have to be worried.
This of course is beside the fact that it shouldn't matter how I choose to use my data. What would be next? T-Mobile deciding that we can't go to sites such as YouTube because streaming videos uses too much bandwidth or I can't let my daughter go to Disney.com because its flash intensive and again uses too much bandwidth. If its 5gb or 2gb or unlimited then that's what it should be not only if you use it in a certain manner prescribed by some suit at T-Mobile who doesn't have to pay for his service anyway and therefore doesn't really understand how normal customers use the service.
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This is what I think. To improve customer service T-mobile should just include some free tethering use per month with each data plan for emergency use, maybe like 50-100mb data or something. As a courtesy.
However, then you have people like the original poster who has been tethering for 9 months? WTF? 9 months really? People like the original poster are the EXACT reason why we went from a 10gb cap to 5, and now 2gb on most data plans. Thank you original poster for abusing the system and not using your data plan as outlined in your terms/conditions, now people who truely use large amounts of data on their phone are capped and throttled at lower limits because of you.
Lolz - how will I ever carry on without your approval?
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This is all ridiculous, they want to charge you so you can use your laptop screen vs. your phone screen. Either way the data will be used.
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This is all ridiculous, they want to charge you so you can use your laptop screen vs. your phone screen. Either way the data will be used. pretty gay.
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UM NO, that DATA won't be used. You are obviously opting to use your laptop over your phone to complete some task because your phone is not convenient enough to complete the task. Maybe the screen is too small to surf the net or finish up your homework, or whatever the reason. So you decided to use your laptop, meaning you are no longer using data on your phone, instead you are "stealing" data by tethering, and transferring that data use onto another device to complete a task that your phone wasn't designed to do.
If your phone can do everything, and the data is going to be used anyway, then do it all on your phone. Why switch to your laptop?
Ahhh because you can't do everything on your phone. Otherwise you wouldn't switch to a more convenient laptop.
Have any of you even read the contract you agreed to with T-Mobile?
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I was using about 70-90 Gb data a month for the past few months, mostly because of tethering. I recieved the first warning, and then yesterday the final notice stating i WOULD be changed to 45$ 4Gb tethering plan next bill. Well i spent hours and hours calling back different times with different point. most being legality, and privacy issues. Nothing worked, UNTIL i got a very nice man who was describing tethering to me and how watching netflix on ur phone then attaching hdmi is still condisdered tethering. I told him i have CM7 and that it was a non-stock os, and that all i have been doing is watching netflix or hulu on my tv via the hdmi port and mirroring. he extended my cut off date to right after the conversation, so that as long as i did not tether after that (connect my phone to my tv, lamo!) i would no longer be switched. he gave me a third chance and i am very thankfull. if you do not get the response u want to hear, try, try again..generally with a different rep, but they HAVE HAVE HAVE to be in the tethering watch dept. i believe he said its called "EOS" dept. I also filled a complaint with the better business bureau, but im positive just a bluff would do the trick.
just remember, make sure you are speaking to the right department before you get all down and dirty into why you believe this is unjust, and use the TV excuse and dont ever tether again unless u wanna loose to AT&T
This ****s real, one you get your first notice, be smart, unlike me and stop effing tethering...unless u r on a tiered data plan....then tether away amigo
I have been using 40gb up to 70gb since i got my unlimited data back 2-3 months ago. Never gotten an notice. Been doing the same thing as you, plus using pdanet to use my computer and torrents.
Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!
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Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!
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Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
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you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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I am happy when I see threads like this. People complain about AT&T having ****ty service, but it is out of their control when people are hogging 50-100 GB over a wireless connection. Wireless is shared bandwidth, unlike a wired connection, so the network performs worse for other users when somebody it using massive bandwidth.
Unlimited doesn't give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.
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Unlimited does give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.
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i'm assuming you meant DOESN'T give you the right...?
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People certainly have the right to complain about AT&Ts new practices but 40-90 gb is overkill. Its hard to sympathize with you guys. I got the notice and I've only used 5gb of data.
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mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
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Ya well 4G isn't 4G with them either. The point is that everybody else has to suffer by paying more, AND dealing with a more congested network.
Tethering was really meant for emergency purposes, or when the local coffee shop is closed and you need to be online browsing/checking email for a "short period of time"...
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Just saying..
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you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
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Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..
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Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
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That's the point people are making. I have unlimited also, but I don't abuse it by using my cell phone data plan as I do my high speed internet at home. Tethering isn't the issue, ludicrously high data usage is because it affects every user.
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Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
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And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..
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ha. yeah you're right in that aspecto. i was just trying to point out the blatant lack of consumer responsibility.
i, too, have unlimited data. i stream music, netflix, google navigation.
and i don't hit 5gb a month. I don't even typically hit 2GB. it's the people who constantly abuse the unlimited data plan so that are causing AT&T to imposed stricter and stricter regulations on their customers. Granted, there's greed thrown in there as well. but until every single one of us customers isn't doing anything irresponsible, then collectively we look like ignorant customers. i'd understand if all customers used 5gb and AT&T was behaving as they are now, then I, too, would be pissed.
your car tops out at 140mph. you don't drive it that fast all the time out of courtesy to others on the road and you just knowing you shouldn't. you can. but you shouldn't.
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..... you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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Sorry to burst your bubble about no data cap on home internet. I was issued a Notice that I exceeded my data usage cap with Cox Communications last month in San Diego (premier 25mbs/sec plan). I have 3 TVs all hooked up to either pandora, Netflix, Hulu +, or Playstation Network. (Normal computer web surfing as well).
But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
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you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
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But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
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I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
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Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
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Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB cap.
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I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
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It's not a privacy issue when the data usage is provided by them. You expect them not to know how much data you use? Also, if you are referring to tethering, they don't have to do anything but look at the information you actually agree to providing them to determine packet usage. Without packet usage you can have no data, and TTL (Time To Live) is a timestamp embedded in all data. When you use their service you freely agree to them knowing this in order to provide said service, and thus give them the authority to see what you are doing regarding packet hops.
And I thought I was an ass just for using 6GB. OP, you're ruining it for all of us. But that's bull crap that AT&T considers mirroring and the like "tethering." Is it also considered tethering to use Google Music with your car?
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Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB
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if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
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if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
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Get better internet then.
I got the notice using my 5 GB a month tethering. To heck with AT&T! That being said, some of you guys are clearly abusing the system and deserve the consequences!
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In the last few days Tmo has been redirecting me to buy that stupid hotspot service when i try to hot spot my work computer. I tried Clockworkmod's tether app, and got the same ****. Im in the process of downloading CM9's nightly, im hoping when i flash ill be back to getting what i pay for.
But if it doesnt, and since its a redirect i doubt flashing a rom will help, does anyone know how to get around it?
I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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You can get the five gigs plus tether for thirty bucks. Quit being cheap. Compared to other carriers we have it good.
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Having to work for tmobile is awesome . Having a dealer line and unlimited data access is amazing. I'm just happy
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I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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Im already paying for data plan permonth. I shouldnt have to pay for it twice. Having to pay for tethering is a straight up money grab, i dont care how cool Tmo is (and they are a great company), i dont think i should have to pay twice for the data im already using and paying for.
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Im already paying for data plan permonth. I shouldnt have to pay for it twice. Having to pay for tethering is a straight up money grab, i dont care how cool Tmo is (and they are a great company), i dont think i should have to pay twice for the data im already using and paying for.
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So if you have 2 phones on your account you should only have to pay for data on one if them but get it on both? By your logic that would be the same thing...
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Data is data. Who cares, other than providers, where it's going?
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You can get the five gigs plus tether for thirty bucks. Quit being cheap. Compared to other carriers we have it good.
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I tether fine with my 5gig data plan without getting any hotpost messages
On the 5GB and 10GB plans, you can get tethering for free. One of the things I love about Tmo.
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So if you have 2 phones on your account you should only have to pay for data on one if them but get it on both? By your logic that would be the same thing...
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If he has unlimited data yes. If a customer has a 2gb hspa+ and unlimited edge after, who cares whether it's his phone or comp using the data? Charging for tethering is just charging for the service not the data. And considering a simple free app can do that service why should he pay extra?
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Data is data. Ones and zeros are ones and zeros. Im paying for ones and zeros. Not to mention i rarely use tethering at all, i just want it handy for that "every once in a while." $15 a month doesnt constitute that. Nor does it constitute using one of them "shared" bull **** that is $15 a month just to enable my phone to do it and use up the same data pool. Its a money grab and i refuse to pay for it.
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Data is data. Who cares, other than providers, where it's going?
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This is right. You are already paying for your 2GBs, you should be able to use it as you want. Because at the end of the day, your going to get throttled once you hit your limit.
so even if your using just your phone, or a hotspot the data you use with the devices don't change.
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If I'm not browsing on my laptop then I'm just going to pick up my phone and do it that way. How does that allow me to use an unfair amount? Data limits are still in place on my "unlimited" line.
Oskiee said:
In the last few days Tmo has been redirecting me to buy that stupid hotspot service when i try to hot spot my work computer. I tried Clockworkmod's tether app, and got the same ****. Im in the process of downloading CM9's nightly, im hoping when i flash ill be back to getting what i pay for.
But if it doesnt, and since its a redirect i doubt flashing a rom will help, does anyone know how to get around it?
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T-Mobile didn't "figure you out" - most tethering is easily detectable. It's a matter of "does T-Mobile care enough to do anything about it?" ... Until recently, that answer was no.
The information to get around T-Mobile's tethering detection is available in this forum (read: search for it). I'll give you a hint: the user agent gives you away.
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I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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Do you own Tmobile stock?! What difference does it make? You know some of us are irritated that we are paying for unlimited data with at&t and we aren't able to tether our laptops every once in awhile. I have no need for tethering 95% of the time. But when I'm on the road and I need to check something on a flash website it is nice to be able to use my laptop. I shouldn't have to lose unlimited data AND have my data bill go up 66% just because I need to tether 15 times a year. You know if they said hey if you are going to be traveling pay us $5 and we will let you tether for a month I would say fine.
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Do you own Tmobile stock?! What difference does it make? You know some of us are irritated that we are paying for unlimited data with at&t and we aren't able to tether our laptops every once in awhile. I have no need for tethering 95% of the time. But when I'm on the road and I need to check something on a flash website it is nice to be able to use my laptop. I shouldn't have to lose unlimited data AND have my data bill go up 66% just because I need to tether 15 times a year. You know if they said hey if you are going to be traveling pay us $5 and we will let you tether for a month I would say fine.
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I used to get the nasty emails from Ma Bell until I started using USB exclusively and Opera browser (uses a proxy). Ever since then, I've never gotten another one.
Seriously just pay for it with tmo.. Its like the people that pirate apk's... its a couple bucks for those and its like, why waste the time?
You "righteous" dudes are missing the point. I totally understand what the OP is saying. If I'm already paying for a certain amount of data, who gives a damn HOW it is used. In the end I'm STILL using the amount of data I paid for. Nothing more, nothing less. Charging for that is just like double billing in my opinion. These providers will do ANYTHING to milk more money out of the consumer.
Tmob is a business, not a non profit orginization. it's not like charging for the service is done just to "rob" consumers, if it wasn't for everyone expecting everything for free I think technological advancements would be in a completely different place. We only hinder ourselves with our sense of entitlement. I get the point of only tethering so often, but again, few ruin it for the many and use their phone as a modem for Netflix. Too bad it's in our nature to exploit everything. Just sayin
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Tmob is a business, not a non profit orginization. it's not like charging for the service is done just to "rob" consumers, if it wasn't for everyone expecting everything for free I think technological advancements would be in a completely different place. We only hinder ourselves with our sense of entitlement. I get the point of only tethering so often, but again, few ruin it for the many and use their phone as a modem for Netflix. Too bad it's in our nature to exploit everything. Just sayin
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I do not believe issues such as this to be an unwarranted sense of entitlement. I have been an "unlimited" data user at At&T since 2005 - back when tethering was included in data. It was so little an issue back then I once called AT&T to ask for help setting up my Blackberry 7100.
For me to continue using my phone to tether win I switched to an iPhone, they tried to upsell me to a tethering plan, and the same when I briefly used a focus. I told them then, and I will tell them now, that as long as the plan that we BOTH agreed to regarding my ToS say that tethering is indeed included in my data plan - its not an entitlement, it is a right protected by the contract I had to sign while buying my beloved 8125.
The OP's individual situation may be different than this - but in all reality, if there is no abuse of the data caps on the users end - charging extra for tethering is in really bad taste from any of the carriers. It is NOT a service that they provide - it's a well established feature withing operating systems of the phones they sell. If that is unacceptable to them, then stop selling smartphones and go back to series Nokia 6125's. Then offer the 3g/4g hotspots as their own service so there is no longer a redundancy between smartphones and hotspots. Charging for both is just plain stupid.
Especially if the data plan I pay for has more than covered the data I use. I tether my laptop and tablet once or twice a week, and have not come close to the 5GB "softcap". If I'm not going over my limit, Who the heck are you to tell me I'm abusing the network? Leave me alone and go bother the jerk who's torrenting 720p movies on Friday night.