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The Dreaded Premium Data-Add on

I'm looking to get the Evo but the $10 a month Premium data-add on is something that is holding me back. What I am trying to figure out is whether this is actually required by the phone or not. I was told back in the days that the Blackberry Internet Service was "required" for activation, yet I easily activated the phones without the internet plan, and I was even able to activate a few with the internet plan then go back and remove the internet plan and it still worked! I to this day don't believe Sprint when they tell me something won't work, so I'm trying to find a solution to this. Is there anyway the command forcing the phone to search to see if the subscriber has the data add on can be accessed? Would it be a file or a command? And wouldn't I just be able to do what I did with my Blackberry's in the past and just cancel the premium data add on after activation and keep the phone working like normal?
Another user explained to me that a user on these forums: Toast is working on some sort of solution to this?

I'm pretty sure no. As with the pre and hero I think the sprint system knows the imei for the phones and will require this. Looking in my account, I can see the premium data plan, and It does not let me remove it. If there's some special way, who knows, but I don't think I've heard of one yet.
I'm actually ok with the premium data plan. It means that less people ran for the phone (which means I got one easy) and it means less people jamming the network with one, which leads to higher speeds for me lol... Sprint's always been good to me otherwise. I can eat the 7.70 a month I have to add on.

You must have the plan or your phone disactivates.

It's worth it, free Telenav and sprint tv, plus 4g
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Speed alone is worth it. If that doesn't sell you I read somewhere a plan pricing comparison and Sprint with the +$10 plan is still cheaper than most services out there when it comes down to it.

chandlerw88 said:
It's worth it, free Telenav and sprint tv, plus 4g
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The free sprint TV is crap, but the navigation seems very good!
But...Navigon will be releasing an android nav app this year, so that will make it useless, lol
Basically if you don't get 4G or don't need it...it's just an extra crap fee.

ballerx43 said:
I was told back in the days that the Blackberry Internet Service was "required" for activation, yet I easily activated the phones without the internet plan, and I was even able to activate a few with the internet plan then go back and remove the internet plan and it still worked!
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This is pure blind luck. When the Blackberry add-on was still sold by Sprint, not having it on the account was possible...but lead to a great deal of issues. Blackberry devices can and will check the web often. If you dind't get hit with data charges. Some people did. Some people's phones couldn't even make phonecalls without the pack.
And just for reference, the price of that add-on was set by RIM, NOT by Sprint.
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You must have the plan or your phone disactivates.
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Half true. There's no way to remove the feature as every Rep knows that it has to be there.
Of course if you do manage to find a way to remove the feature you'll end up paying MORE, so that's probably not in you r best interest!
Personally, I rarely use 4g. It has major penetration issues (know I'm going to hear more on that phrase!) but considering I'm at 1.3GB since the 27th of last month on this thing, odds are good I'll reach and/or exceed the 5gb cap that typiccally accompanies this kind of gear. $10 to allow me to use the phone as much as I want, in whatever way I want?
Sold.

I don't see the big issue. I came from AT&T paying $250 a month. This is nothing to worry about.

you can get this phone on $70/month plan. google slickdeals, check their hotdeals foroums. it's there.

Neotelos_com said:
The free sprint TV is crap, but the navigation seems very good!
But...Navigon will be releasing an android nav app this year, so that will make it useless, lol
Basically if you don't get 4G or don't need it...it's just an extra crap fee.
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yeah, but you can get nav on the evo from google maps....
I think it's a ripoff to charge an extra $10 that most of the country can't access yet for some reason, people still pay it.

I originally was upset by the $10 surcharge, however, after using the Evo for a weekend I consume WAY more data on it than any other phone I've used. Its so hard not to. I almost prefer browsing on it compared to my laptop, YouTube is great, and Maps and Navigation on the big screen is a joy to use. Besides, Sprint's plans are still a hell of a lot better than the competition, even with the extra fee.

So is there a definitive answer whether the 3g is truly unlimited or is it only 4g? There seems to be conflicting answers everywhere.

bockjacob said:
So is there a definitive answer whether the 3g is truly unlimited or is it only 4g? There seems to be conflicting answers everywhere.
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http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=5973
case closed
From CNET News: "If the thought of having to pay for 4G without actually getting 4G makes you mad, it might be some slight consolation that there will be no data cap associated with the Premium Data add-on, regardless of whether you're using 4G or 3G, according to Phone Scoop."

Hack evo for free hotspot

Ok so I just got the evo and I'm I. Love I had a moment b4 this and the the pre and the moment was very disappointing but the evo defined did the trick for Mr any way I'm very new to this whole rooting and hacking so I don't kno to much info or where to go get the info I was wonder if there there was a way I could use the hotspot feature without paying 29.99 so if anyone has any info or can point me in the right direction that would be great thanks in advance
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You would need to root your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/Guides_&_Tutorials
Please read up on it before you actually do it. Read the stickies at the top of each forum.

I did this literally 5 minutes ago. I have all the recent updates, and used unrevoked.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
The whole process took less than 5 minutes.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Download that .apk, install and boom.

Thanks for the info fmedina2, im new to the evo and everything 2, but since the link is currently not working. If I root my phone is there a possibility my phone could break or not work properly?

Sprint really doesn't bust users for pulling down hotspot quantity data-activity without paying the $30/mo Mobile Hotspot fee ?

I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.

IFMISM said:
I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.
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If you root then apply Calkulin's usb tether fix, it will also make the native Hotspot app work. The fix disables authentification for both wired and wireless tethering.
Personally, I think that the way these phones hog data out of the box that it would be hard for sprint accuse you of unauthrized tethering unless you were doing something like using the phone as your primary internrt connection.

I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.

thekingofmean said:
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.

thekingofmean said:
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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sobis1dm said:
This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.

drmacinyasha said:
Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
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You're absolutely right. I'm rooted, and CAN tether for free, but I pay the $29.99 anyway because it's the right thing to do. If you are using it for a lot of data (your main connection), you should pay for it.

thekingofmean said:
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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if you do ghetto things like that, you'll live just that kind of life.
good luck with that...

sobis1dm said:
This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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Get ready for tiered data plans.
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Hahaha you should pay for it? Why because they tell you too? Hey simple man root your phone thru unrevoked(easy as hell) then use pdanet or caulkins method or flash a rom that has it already integrated.
Hey your paying an extra $10 for extra bandwith so use it. Why pay $40 more now to stream on your phone..hey AT&T is 15 a month for dsl a year...so it may be right but it ain't smart..... Also I believe unlimited bandwith is for aircards and not for wireless. There is a thread discussing that. At the end of the day too each his own....
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P.S. I don't abuse or really use tethering but I don't see the problem. I don't use 90% of the internet based stuff on my phone but I pay the $10 and don't complain...
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drmacinyasha said:
Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth[/url].
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david279 said:
Get ready for tiered data plans.
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The reason I came to Sprint is because they allow it, and every rep I've talked to knows this. What good is the ability to push unlimited data (which, please, most people here can burn 11GB in a day, let alone a month) if you're morally restricted to limiting yourself to the competition's tiers anyways? Sprint's angle against the Big Two has been unlimited data for a long time now, and they're not going to switch it. If they do, I can promise you that the reason is NOT some guy using PDANet and watching a lot of streaming football while he's at work.

My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
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Kcarpenter said:
My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
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You're right in that 2GB really is nothing nowadays. Sprint offers On Demand television, live sporting events, and devices with screens big enough to actually utilize these things; and when Netflix comes to Android, do they really think users will stay within 2-5GB?
Even without Netflix or tethering, Evo can burn through caps like noone's business on push alone. The phone was built and marketed as a multimedia powerhouse - stream HD, refresh your FriendStream every 15 minutes, push the news, get your email, upload huge photos from your 8MP cam, all within a few swipes.
It makes sense for Sprint to cap the non-premium data users, and just use that as an incentive to make $10/mo from that many more customers. But seriously, companies really should start focusing on making the network's capacities better - not limiting the consumer.

drmacinyasha said:
Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
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I second that!!

We aren't losing unlimited bandwidth. We pay extra for not having 4G in our areas aka a 'richer data experience'.
This is that richer data experience. Tether it up.

Monthly data usage

How many did you use?
The past 3 months I have an average of 22 gigs per month used on my Rogers bill. I got a promotional 3 months of unlimited data.
To test how unlimited it really was I stopped using my laptop and only used my Atrix for EVERYTHING! Having tha lapdock made that easy. Torrents, videos, browsing, streaming online radio. Anything that could use data.
According to 2 reps at Rogers its the most they have ever seen. Makes me proud! haha

i'm sure your fellow rogers customers would like to graciously thank you for HOGGING bandwidth just because you can. congratulations.

That's not TOO much...Last month I used about 15 GB on my Atrix, only tethered a few times when necessary plus my normal usage. I've heard of some ridiculous people, however, that have managed to use 60+ GB of data in a month. AT&T promptly told him to stop using that much or else he would be cut off completely.

This its the first month I've broken 500 MB....usually around 350. 22GB...damn.
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I've yet to go above 50mb/month. Partially because there's wifi most of the places I go, and partially because I use Opera Mini with images set to low quality when there's not. I wouldn't even have a data plan if AT&T allowed me to go without one.
You grandfather'ed unlimited users are lucky. I know I'm always going to be terrified of using my phone away from wifi no matter what my cap is.

And people wonder why providers want to cap and throttle our usage. Thanks a lot a$$holes.

10 gb last month...about to hit another 10 his month. No tethering.
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rusreid said:
And people wonder why providers want to cap and throttle our usage. Thanks a lot a$$holes.
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You're not an asshole if you use 15 gigs the legit way man.
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rusreid said:
And people wonder why providers want to cap and throttle our usage. Thanks a lot a$$holes.
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Yeah, it certainly isn't because they want to do as little as possible to improve their infrastructure to support such amounts of data properly.
Not to be rude, but there's a lot more to the situation than what the carriers are trying to make us think of it. If theres something to be blamed, its the lack of any real competition, not users using a network in completely expected (on a consumer level) ways. If their contract says unlimited, then they get unlimited. End of discussion.

Back when I had T-Mobile with unlimited data plan I used to push just how far I could go with it. I would tether and download huge files constantly. They didn't seem to care, but then again, their speeds don't match what im getting now on at&t
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Yeah, it certainly isn't because they want to do as little as possible to improve their infrastructure to support such amounts of data properly.
Not to be rude, but there's a lot more to the situation than what the carriers are trying to make us think of it. If theres something to be blamed, its the lack of any real competition, not users using a network in completely expected (on a consumer level) ways. If their contract says unlimited, then they get unlimited. End of discussion.
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Can I buy you beer?
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Hell, i thought that using 1.5 gigs was a lot...

mobile data is now crack for the masses and the carriers are holding all the crack. the biggest and smallest crack dealers are trying to merge. just what gsm needs in america. a global standard with no competition. if i wasn't getting a decent discount because of my employer i probably wouldn't have data, and they did away with discounts on text, and are fixing to give us the option of all or nothing. and then they whine about we're not making enough profit, say their infrastructure is great and fast, shove 3g+ down our throats as 4g and the guys in red are considering putting android on the backburner for apples.

I use 2gigs a month only because its my cap... and I have to force myself to be conservative at times... wish I had unlimited data. Back when I was with Verizon I'd do about 10gigs a month
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Glad to know I won't be in the top 5% of unlimited users to get throttled! =)
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Never say... never...
I never used it
Sorry

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You're not an asshole if you use 15 gigs the legit way man.
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Yeah but the guy saying he used 22gb was also downloading torrents! And just pushing it. I understand that it is unlimited data but shouldn't abuse it because of it. Now don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate it that carriers are limiting the data. But it really is people like this that drove them to that. I mean can you imagine if the other 95% of data subscribers also tried using 22gb or even the 15gb stated? I doubt any wireless network in the world can maintain stability under such demands.

The most I've done was 10 gigs. No tethering.. it was all streaming music with rhapsody and movies with subsonic. I can see doing 20 gb if I streamed movies all the time. I currently average about 4 now
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I for one do not mind in the slightest when users push the boundary of practical usage. If every att data subscriber stayed clear within the norm of data usage, and no one strayed beyond it, where is the motive for a carrier to expand or increase the network capability, or offer larger data plans or better rates? (hypothetically, of course.) I'm a 500mb per month user myself, however if I could hit such usage without the autonomous fees, I certainly would. I respect the heavy user! Besides, a handful of people using such data amounts are not affecting the majority of 98,000,000 MILLION USERS.

Life much???
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Tethering over?

Sup guys,
I've been tethering with my vibrant for about 9 months. Yesterday I went online with tethering and got redirected to a Tmobile tethering page prompting me to enroll in a tethering plan. Is this new? Did I miss something?
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What method are you using to tether?

Mobile AP.
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It does that to me on my pc but not my mac.

no problems here.

SeanFloyd said:
Mobile AP.
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what's your approximate monthly data usage? are you downloading large files consistently while tethering?
Ive been using the built in tethering in most roms and have yet to have an issue since august of last year.
if you are using excessive data while tethering it may be throwing a red flag to tmobile cuz they can monitor what sites you visit as well as the user agent and the only reason i think they would do that is if you are abusively using your data connection
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Regularly exceed 5GB a month and you'll most likely get your account flagged.
Install 3g watchdog. It'll give you a heads up before you incriminate yourself.

I use tethering and wi-fi hotspots occasionally and have never been flagged. I don't know if I just don't use enough data or I'm just lucky.

Try using a different browser. I get that redirected to that page when I use Chrome, but not when I use Internet Exploder. Also, for some reason, I still can use certain pages on Chrome (Facebook, Gmail) but even a simple Goog search will bring up the "Tmo tethering..." page for me. I find the URL of the page quite amusing as well.

I haven't had that page pop up for a while and still under the even more plan. For a while I was only able to use 100MB befor I was flagged. But now I don't know why I am not flagged nor do I care until I have to renew.

SeanFloyd said:
Sup guys,
I've been tethering with my vibrant for about 9 months. Yesterday I went online with tethering and got redirected to a Tmobile tethering page prompting me to enroll in a tethering plan. Is this new? Did I miss something?
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Not trying to stir things up, but why don't you just get:
a) tethering plan
b) home dsl/broadband
c) mobile web for whatever device you tethering to
You are paying for web access on your phone. Meaning surfing the web on your phone, downloading on your phone, watching videos on your phone, sending and receiving pics and multimedia on your phone, email, etc.
If you must tether to have web access on a different device, then you should pay for it.
NO, paying for unlimited web on your phone doesn't entitle you to "tether" that web access to other devices.
You can't afford an extra 15 bucks a month for dsl extreme? Then maybe you shouldn't be owning a smartphone if you are tight on cash
www.dslextreme.com

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Not trying to stir things up, but
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I 100% agree with you, man. But seriously, all you're doing with this is stirring things up.

SamsungVibrant said:
Not trying to stir things up, but why don't you just get:
a) tethering plan
b) home dsl/broadband
c) mobile web for whatever device you tethering to
You are paying for web access on your phone. Meaning surfing the web on your phone, downloading on your phone, watching videos on your phone, sending and receiving pics and multimedia on your phone, email, etc.
If you must tether to have web access on a different device, then you should pay for it.
NO, paying for unlimited web on your phone doesn't entitle you to "tether" that web access to other devices.
You can't afford an extra 15 bucks a month for dsl extreme? Then maybe you shouldn't be owning a smartphone if you are tight on cash
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you are stirring things up so just shut the F*ck up and mind your own business instead of telling other people how they should use or pay for their data. For a second I thought I was watching the Dr. Phil show.

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Not trying to stir things up...
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I'll chime in here. I recently changed my plan and they had put me on the 2gb which wasn't what I wanted. I had them change it back to 5gb and am paying the extra monthly. That said I consistently stay under 1gb because I'm usually near wifi and don't use my phone for excessive file downloads or anything. I recently went to Disney and had some school tests to take online while there. Rather than pay Disney $10 a day I decided to tether.
So are you saying that my extra 4gb a month that I don't use should just be ignored and I should have still paid the Disney fee because hey its a phone plan not an internet plan. Should I have to worry that T-Mobile is going to stop us from using this tool when we need it.
I agree that if someone is consistently using all or more of there data for tethering then yeah maybe they should be flagged but users like me who use it properly shouldn't have to be worried.
This of course is beside the fact that it shouldn't matter how I choose to use my data. What would be next? T-Mobile deciding that we can't go to sites such as YouTube because streaming videos uses too much bandwidth or I can't let my daughter go to Disney.com because its flash intensive and again uses too much bandwidth. If its 5gb or 2gb or unlimited then that's what it should be not only if you use it in a certain manner prescribed by some suit at T-Mobile who doesn't have to pay for his service anyway and therefore doesn't really understand how normal customers use the service.
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Thanks to homie who said try another browser.
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I'll chime in here. I recently changed my plan and they had put me on the 2gb which wasn't what I wanted. I had them change it back to 5gb and am paying the extra monthly. That said I consistently stay under 1gb because I'm usually near wifi and don't use my phone for excessive file downloads or anything. I recently went to Disney and had some school tests to take online while there. Rather than pay Disney $10 a day I decided to tether.
So are you saying that my extra 4gb a month that I don't use should just be ignored and I should have still paid the Disney fee because hey its a phone plan not an internet plan. Should I have to worry that T-Mobile is going to stop us from using this tool when we need it.
I agree that if someone is consistently using all or more of there data for tethering then yeah maybe they should be flagged but users like me who use it properly shouldn't have to be worried.
This of course is beside the fact that it shouldn't matter how I choose to use my data. What would be next? T-Mobile deciding that we can't go to sites such as YouTube because streaming videos uses too much bandwidth or I can't let my daughter go to Disney.com because its flash intensive and again uses too much bandwidth. If its 5gb or 2gb or unlimited then that's what it should be not only if you use it in a certain manner prescribed by some suit at T-Mobile who doesn't have to pay for his service anyway and therefore doesn't really understand how normal customers use the service.
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This is what I think. To improve customer service T-mobile should just include some free tethering use per month with each data plan for emergency use, maybe like 50-100mb data or something. As a courtesy.
However, then you have people like the original poster who has been tethering for 9 months? WTF? 9 months really? People like the original poster are the EXACT reason why we went from a 10gb cap to 5, and now 2gb on most data plans. Thank you original poster for abusing the system and not using your data plan as outlined in your terms/conditions, now people who truely use large amounts of data on their phone are capped and throttled at lower limits because of you.

Lolz - how will I ever carry on without your approval?
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This is all ridiculous, they want to charge you so you can use your laptop screen vs. your phone screen. Either way the data will be used.

ferhanmm said:
This is all ridiculous, they want to charge you so you can use your laptop screen vs. your phone screen. Either way the data will be used. pretty gay.
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UM NO, that DATA won't be used. You are obviously opting to use your laptop over your phone to complete some task because your phone is not convenient enough to complete the task. Maybe the screen is too small to surf the net or finish up your homework, or whatever the reason. So you decided to use your laptop, meaning you are no longer using data on your phone, instead you are "stealing" data by tethering, and transferring that data use onto another device to complete a task that your phone wasn't designed to do.
If your phone can do everything, and the data is going to be used anyway, then do it all on your phone. Why switch to your laptop?
Ahhh because you can't do everything on your phone. Otherwise you wouldn't switch to a more convenient laptop.

Have any of you even read the contract you agreed to with T-Mobile?
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[How To] Save your unlimited data plan after tethering notice

I was using about 70-90 Gb data a month for the past few months, mostly because of tethering. I recieved the first warning, and then yesterday the final notice stating i WOULD be changed to 45$ 4Gb tethering plan next bill. Well i spent hours and hours calling back different times with different point. most being legality, and privacy issues. Nothing worked, UNTIL i got a very nice man who was describing tethering to me and how watching netflix on ur phone then attaching hdmi is still condisdered tethering. I told him i have CM7 and that it was a non-stock os, and that all i have been doing is watching netflix or hulu on my tv via the hdmi port and mirroring. he extended my cut off date to right after the conversation, so that as long as i did not tether after that (connect my phone to my tv, lamo!) i would no longer be switched. he gave me a third chance and i am very thankfull. if you do not get the response u want to hear, try, try again..generally with a different rep, but they HAVE HAVE HAVE to be in the tethering watch dept. i believe he said its called "EOS" dept. I also filled a complaint with the better business bureau, but im positive just a bluff would do the trick.
just remember, make sure you are speaking to the right department before you get all down and dirty into why you believe this is unjust, and use the TV excuse and dont ever tether again unless u wanna loose to AT&T
This ****s real, one you get your first notice, be smart, unlike me and stop effing tethering...unless u r on a tiered data plan....then tether away amigo

I have been using 40gb up to 70gb since i got my unlimited data back 2-3 months ago. Never gotten an notice. Been doing the same thing as you, plus using pdanet to use my computer and torrents.

Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!

CaelanT said:
Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!
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Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?

mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
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you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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I am happy when I see threads like this. People complain about AT&T having ****ty service, but it is out of their control when people are hogging 50-100 GB over a wireless connection. Wireless is shared bandwidth, unlike a wired connection, so the network performs worse for other users when somebody it using massive bandwidth.
Unlimited doesn't give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.

mandrsn1 said:
Unlimited does give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.
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i'm assuming you meant DOESN'T give you the right...?
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People certainly have the right to complain about AT&Ts new practices but 40-90 gb is overkill. Its hard to sympathize with you guys. I got the notice and I've only used 5gb of data.
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mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
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Ya well 4G isn't 4G with them either. The point is that everybody else has to suffer by paying more, AND dealing with a more congested network.
Tethering was really meant for emergency purposes, or when the local coffee shop is closed and you need to be online browsing/checking email for a "short period of time"...
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you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
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Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..

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Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
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That's the point people are making. I have unlimited also, but I don't abuse it by using my cell phone data plan as I do my high speed internet at home. Tethering isn't the issue, ludicrously high data usage is because it affects every user.

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Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
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And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..
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ha. yeah you're right in that aspecto. i was just trying to point out the blatant lack of consumer responsibility.
i, too, have unlimited data. i stream music, netflix, google navigation.
and i don't hit 5gb a month. I don't even typically hit 2GB. it's the people who constantly abuse the unlimited data plan so that are causing AT&T to imposed stricter and stricter regulations on their customers. Granted, there's greed thrown in there as well. but until every single one of us customers isn't doing anything irresponsible, then collectively we look like ignorant customers. i'd understand if all customers used 5gb and AT&T was behaving as they are now, then I, too, would be pissed.
your car tops out at 140mph. you don't drive it that fast all the time out of courtesy to others on the road and you just knowing you shouldn't. you can. but you shouldn't.

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..... you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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Sorry to burst your bubble about no data cap on home internet. I was issued a Notice that I exceeded my data usage cap with Cox Communications last month in San Diego (premier 25mbs/sec plan). I have 3 TVs all hooked up to either pandora, Netflix, Hulu +, or Playstation Network. (Normal computer web surfing as well).
But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
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ifalldownalot said:
you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
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kyevey said:
But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
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I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
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mac208x said:
Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
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Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB cap.
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I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
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It's not a privacy issue when the data usage is provided by them. You expect them not to know how much data you use? Also, if you are referring to tethering, they don't have to do anything but look at the information you actually agree to providing them to determine packet usage. Without packet usage you can have no data, and TTL (Time To Live) is a timestamp embedded in all data. When you use their service you freely agree to them knowing this in order to provide said service, and thus give them the authority to see what you are doing regarding packet hops.

And I thought I was an ass just for using 6GB. OP, you're ruining it for all of us. But that's bull crap that AT&T considers mirroring and the like "tethering." Is it also considered tethering to use Google Music with your car?

CaelanT said:
Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB
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if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
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mac208x said:
if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
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Get better internet then.

I got the notice using my 5 GB a month tethering. To heck with AT&T! That being said, some of you guys are clearly abusing the system and deserve the consequences!
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