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HTC Messaging Lag - Progress...

Ok, so I installed the HTC Messaging fix, not sure if that did this or whether it did it before, but here goes...
I know this may be discussed else where, but this is progress on the issue at least and hopefully this might spark a few ideas rather than people just advising "it doesn't work, HTC sux"
** I think this does fix the lag, in a round about way **
Ok, bare with me on this...
I installed the update and it fixed nothing for me, I'm mainly having issues with the lag on messaging.
I noticed in Task Manager (installed Dutty's) that the Messaging app is called "Start" which is when I load messages from HTC Sense UI. Loading this way, still got the lag.
If I disable HTC Sense UI and load messages, its instant. Yes the messages still load down the side but I can now tap and create a new message while this is loading. SPOT ON, FIXED!
Ok, now in Task Manager I notice this is called "HTC Messaging", not "Start", so I'm thinking, cool, its reset the messaging app and sorted it out. So I enable HTC Sense UI again and back to same problem, this loads "Start".
So.... I first installed the hotfix with Sense UI enabled, which didn't resolve the problem unless Sense UI wasn't on.
I've tried installing again with Sense UI disabled, but I have the same issue.
So yes, the problem is fixed in a way, but it is Sense UI that seems to be loading this "Start" messaging app.
Can someone else try this to confirm? Or can some really clever person fix what I've started...?
Edit -- It happens all the time now, I disable HTC Sense UI and the Messaging program changes its name when loaded. WTF? Come on guys, let me know if you have the same issues.

Wow. 51 views and not 1 person has posted back to say whether turning their HTC Sense UI off has resolved this problem.
Come on!!!

It did...
It does solve the problem... Plus it makes a full charge last aprox. 40% longer, oh yeah and also generally speeds up everything on the phone.
I've written this to HTC but who knows if they listen. It has also been posted a couple of times in this forum.

co2-guy said:
It has also been posted a couple of times in this forum.
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Has it, my bad, haven't seen it anywhere and read through a massive chunk. Ah well, as long as people are aware

Explanation of Hero Keyboard Lag?

I have the Sprint Hero, and used the stock rom for 5 months,
DC 2.05
DC 2.07
and currently fresh rom 2.0, The keyboard lag is rediculous on this thing, and one of the worst keyboards I have ever used. The lag makes it unusable..
I have installed the 2.1 HTC IME keyboard, the 1.5 stock HTC KB, and the same one on the droid eris. Nothing helps.
The droid eris' keyboard works perfectly for some reason and for the hero, it sucks. It seems everyone will comment saying
"Mine doesn't lag"
If someone cannot come up with a possible fix, can someone please explain why their is lag on the HTC KB.

you might consider using xdas
lotsa options :-D
not sure if its more lightweight and less lag, and i hate to say it but...mine doesnt lag and i have no explanation
try regawmods rom. he has a black keyboard, its pimp. i found that while i dont experience LAG per-say, when compared to his, his was much more RESPONSIVE.

I'll join in. Mine has lag and I couldn't figure it out. I just installed Fresh 2.0d today to see if it's different. So far... no.

I agree with you, mine did lag. I'm using Sushi rom and the black htc keyboard is very responsive. Also, the AOSP keyboard never lagged one bit. I love it.

I'm running Fresh 2.0d. I'm also using Better Keyboard from the market...and I have no lag. The only time I will notice lag is if the phone is recieving a call while I'm texting, or if an app is installing after download. Aside from that...I'm not noticing a lag.
I also keep my phone as clean as possible. I clear text messages once a week, often clear my call log, ect.

Its mostly the messaging app i've discovered. Try pushing this to your phone. It will give you the stock android 2.1 messaging app which I love, and it is much faster

I started using the beta from swift key and it works nice.

i have to agree. the keyboard lag pisses me off. i can't take it. turning off vibration helps which i dont mind and turning off sound helps but i do mind that. i would really like sound on this.

The 2.1 IME keyboards and the XDA keyboard both lagged for me. Luckily I only have to deal with it long enough to install Estrong's file explorer so I can slap Swype back on. I don't have any lag in Swype.
You could try the non-haptic keyboard here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660506

For me it's not just text messages. It's everywhere on the phone. I will be in the web browser and typing in an address and i will take the e and it sits for a sec then a 3 shows up. Or, I will type and it will pop in the letter, but I can't hit another letter for another second or 2. 1.5 wasn't like this, but I can deal.
Does the better keyboard from the market have the voice to text option? I've been using that a lot lately.

Leukay said:
Its mostly the messaging app i've discovered. Try pushing this to your phone. It will give you the stock android 2.1 messaging app which I love, and it is much faster
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I have the HTC Mms .apk that came with Fresh 2.0, but I am a noob, when it comes to the adb stuff, could you please or someone explain how to install the stock 2.1 Mms.apk , I will give it a shot and hope it works.
I hate to say this, but the one thing the iPhone has over this is the KB. I am not an apple fanboy, I prefer android. But the KB lag makes the phones only input method virtually unusable.

1.5 was like this also. everything i tried has a keyboard lag. better keyboard is ok but it lags also.
every keyboard lags for some reason.

mjz147 said:
I have the HTC Mms .apk that came with Fresh 2.0, but I am a noob, when it comes to the adb stuff, could you please or someone explain how to install the stock 2.1 Mms.apk , I will give it a shot and hope it works.
I hate to say this, but the one thing the iPhone has over this is the KB. I am not an apple fanboy, I prefer android. But the KB lag makes the phones only input method virtually unusable.
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the stock keyboard lags also. don't even bother but it is close to better keyboard in performance. i wish there was a way to boost protity on the keyboard apps.
is there an app for that???

exactly, and its not just texting, every text field its ridiculous.

i just tried disabling everything in better keyboard and it isn't helping.
i tried looking for an apps that would increase the cpu priority on apps (keyboard) but i couldn't find any...

dondadah88 said:
i just tried disabling everything in better keyboard and it isn't helping.
i tried looking for an apps that would increase the cpu priority on apps (keyboard) but i couldn't find any...
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I dont think increasing the priority will help, but download Auto Memory Manager from the market.. Go to running processes, long hold it, and increase the priority or just say never kill, gives it the highest.

Jus10o said:
I dont think increasing the priority will help, but download Auto Memory Manager from the market.. Go to running processes, long hold it, and increase the priority or just say never kill, gives it the highest.
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i'm downloading and trying it now.

I turned off Vibrate when typing and I don't lag one bit, prior to doing that I lagged a ton.

CodeMonk said:
For me it's not just text messages. It's everywhere on the phone. I will be in the web browser and typing in an address and i will take the e and it sits for a sec then a 3 shows up. Or, I will type and it will pop in the letter, but I can't hit another letter for another second or 2. 1.5 wasn't like this, but I can deal.
Does the better keyboard from the market have the voice to text option? I've been using that a lot lately.
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Yes........

I have also experienced EXTREME lag in most of the 2.1 roms out right now. Esp. DC and Fresh. Turned off vibrations, turned off sound, installed every keyboard I could find including AOSP and it didn't help. The lag was all over the place too just like others reported - not just in text messages or email.
Then I found a fix...
A rom without Sense. So far it's the only thing that has worked for me (other than reverting back to a 1.5 rom - yuck). Ic3 and MatrixROM both have 0 lag and run beautifully for me. Haven't tried the newer Sense-less roms yet.
Hope this helps!

[Q] Eclair MMS app on Froyo?

Hello everyone!
Just recently I got the 2.2 OTA for my Droid (rooted) and I'm absolutely loving it, except for one thing: the new MMS app. I strongly dislike the new look; I don't want to see my own profile icon and I definitely don't want to see several of each icon. I really liked the way the Eclair MMS app looked, and I really liked seeing my friends' facebook statuses next to their contact icon.
I've tried replacing the Froyo Mms.apk with the Eclair Mms.apk, which could display everything and worked perfectly fine except for when I actually went to send a message. It would force close and never show that the message actually sent, even though I got replies back, so I know they sent. Also, in order to get this to work, I had to remove Mms.odex. Once I saw that the Eclair app displayed everything and seemed to work fine, I (foolishly) erased my backup of Mms.odex and now I can't run the standard Froyo Mms.apk. Luckily, I did find a modified app that I can use in the meantime, so I'm not totally out of luck right now.
Is there any way to get the old Eclair MMS app/look back? I would REALLY love it! And please don't just suggest Handcent or Chomp. I've tried them and I just don't like them. I went through all the styling and customization options and I just couldn't get it to look like I want. All I want is the old Eclair app back, not alternatives (unless they look almost identical to Eclair's). If it's impossible, I guess I'll deal with it, but "impossible" and "Android" don't really go together...
Thanks in advance!
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I attached two screenshots taken out of an emulator, just in case anyone isn't familiar (why you'd need to see them, I dunno, but I figure more info is better).

Bump. This is a good question. I hadn't really even though about how much better the 2.1 vs 2.2 SMS/MMS app. I knew there was something different but thank you for laying it out. I'm having a problem where the app isn't posting my icon. It is synced with my Facebook contacts so I don't see why it doesn't show my avatar, and if it isn't supposed to then why even change it? No sir, I don't like it. If there is any way to downgrade to the earlier messaging app I would very much be interested in knowing.

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Bump. This is a good question. I hadn't really even though about how much better the 2.1 vs 2.2 SMS/MMS app. I knew there was something different but thank you for laying it out. I'm having a problem where the app isn't posting my icon. It is synced with my Facebook contacts so I don't see why it doesn't show my avatar, and if it isn't supposed to then why even change it? No sir, I don't like it. If there is any way to downgrade to the earlier messaging app I would very much be interested in knowing.
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if its the problerm im thinking of, you need to make a Me contact, and put your picture there

Shameless bump. Still driving me crazy. Hoping there's an alternative by now?

[Q] Flashed Froyo on MT3G 1.2; a couple of concerns

I finally took the plunge and rooted/loaded a new ROM on my wife's phone. Everything went smoothly and I figured that the best/easiest choice for a new ROM would be the CyanogenMod ROM 6.0 that just came out.
Since I loaded the new ROM, I've noticed a few things that I hope someone can help me fix.
First, one of the main reasons that I wanted to load the ROM is so I could get rid of that Amazon Mp3 app. The Froyo ROM I installed still had it
Also, I've noticed that when I try and rotate the screen, it takes several seconds (some times close to a minute) to actually rotate. This mainly happens right when I unlock the phone.
My wife says that the option to have separate tones play when an e-mail comes in vs an SMS has gone away. I haven't played with it, so IDK about this. She just wants to know if the message received was an email or a text.
There were some other things, but I don't remember what they were, so if I remember I'll post. But those are the big ones. If there is anything I can do to fix them, let me know please! Also, if there is a better, smoother, faster ROM for MT3G 1.2 than the CYGN 6.0, I wouldn't be opposed to reflashing.
Thank you for any help!

joe_coolish said:
I finally took the plunge and rooted/loaded a new ROM on my wife's phone. Everything went smoothly and I figured that the best/easiest choice for a new ROM would be the CyanogenMod ROM 6.0 that just came out.
Since I loaded the new ROM, I've noticed a few things that I hope someone can help me fix.
First, one of the main reasons that I wanted to load the ROM is so I could get rid of that Amazon Mp3 app. The Froyo ROM I installed still had it
Also, I've noticed that when I try and rotate the screen, it takes several seconds (some times close to a minute) to actually rotate. This mainly happens right when I unlock the phone.
My wife says that the option to have separate tones play when an e-mail comes in vs an SMS has gone away. I haven't played with it, so IDK about this. She just wants to know if the message received was an email or a text.
There were some other things, but I don't remember what they were, so if I remember I'll post. But those are the big ones. If there is anything I can do to fix them, let me know please! Also, if there is a better, smoother, faster ROM for MT3G 1.2 than the CYGN 6.0, I wouldn't be opposed to reflashing.
Thank you for any help!
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Let's start off by moving this to General.
The best way to remove a system app (Yes, Amazon MP3 is considered a system app) is by installing Titanium Backup and using that app to remove any system app that you don't want installed. I used it recently to remove Street View (Street.apk) and I was able to install the newest version from Market after a reboot.
There should be no reason why it would take any more than a couple of seconds to rotate your home screen. How many widgets and shortcuts do you have? Try locking the Launcher app to memory. That may help.
SMS notification:
SMS app, Settings, check Notifications, Notification Settings, Select Ringtone
Gmail notification:
Gmail, Settings, check Email notifications, Select ringtone
Email notification:
Email, Settings, check Email notifications, Select ringtone

Thank you! Sorry for posting in wrong forum. I debated General and Android... should have gone General!
As per the homescreen, I believe she only has 2 widgets: Analog Clock and some task killer widget. IDK if the task killer widget is the root of the problem, but I will have her remove it and see if that fixes it. I also don't know how to check if it is using a lot of system resources. Is there some kind of Taskmgr app that will tell me if that app is a resource hog?
Thank you for your response!

That Task Killer Widget. Oh My, that is one resource hogger. I tried it on my Tilt with Froyo ... it hogged up badly . I gave up, and got me a new myTouch 3G 1.2 off ebay.

Ok, I got the sound thing all working (really easy. Should have looked b4 I asked) But the rotation is still really slow
I was given a Droid to help develop a mobile application recently, and even though it has similar specs to the MT3G, and the same OS version, there is not lag in the screen rotation. I've installed most of the same apps on the Droid and still there is no lag.
Is there something else that could be causing the lag? Any thoughts?
Thanks

Have you uninstalled task killer yet? they actually do way more harm than good.

Froyo on Mt3g 1.2?
Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but I thought the only Froyo images for MT3g 1.2 were buggy at best and didn't support wifi or camera, among other things.
A guy I work with just put Froyo on his G1 and says it works faster than Eclair. I want in on that action!

As a MT3G user, I've found that the 6.0 Rom from CY is horrible with a Mytouch sadly. It's the rom not agree'ing with the Mytouch that is the problem, not the phone.
I'd suggest the 6.1 RC1 Mod from Cy, or this linked Rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814142
I've had no problem with the linked rom working for me. I had some minor issues with the RC1 not recieving all my texts, though honestly I upgraded my radio at the same time as changing over to the new Rom, so I'm not sure if it was the ROM or the Radio.

[Q] Picture Mail

I have a problem. Whenever someone sends me a picture mail i receive the message but the picture does not come up. the only thing there is a button that says download and you click on it and it says downloading but nothing happens. Any thoughts on what i should do?

So I'm guessin your running one of the Cyanogen or AOSP roms. I've found these just don't do picturemail all that well. I can get static pics but no animated gifs on these roms. I've never had a problem on any of the Sense roms (Not sure about Sense hd).
If your having issues on a stock Sense build, this may be a phone problem.

yeah its cyanogen. i dont even see the static picture. do u know a good sense rom to get? i would love to try one that is good.
Thanks,

fresh evo 3.5 is pretty good. i just switched from that to cm because i want to used a bt keyboard and wii remote on my phone.
fresh is pretty quick.
i think you will like it
dannythrasher said:
yeah its cyanogen. i dont even see the static picture. do u know a good sense rom to get? i would love to try one that is good.
Thanks,
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I get the same problem with Myn's Warm. I think it may be a phone issue.

I have the same problem and made a thread if you want to check it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10197958
basically the only fix i have found for now is when you get the download button, open a task killer and kill the "messages" and "message uploader" processes then go back into the message and hit download and it will come up. From what I can tell it is for sure a sprint issue. I have had the problem before i even rooted and its continued no matter which rom i use or which wimax/radios either.

OP, are you running handcent? i have the same "problem" but i thought it was just a setting in handcent.

I have the same issue, of course my cell phone provider told me to do a hard reset, I can send picture messages, but can't recieve them.

I get this sometimes too. Usually dropping to 3g will fix it. If that doesn't work, a reboot will do. It tends to happen when I've gone a long time without rebooting.

I"ve had the problem on different phonies, different ROMS, different MODS> Sprint says there's a ticket out the MMS problem.... for what it's worth