Explanation of Hero Keyboard Lag? - Hero CDMA General

I have the Sprint Hero, and used the stock rom for 5 months,
DC 2.05
DC 2.07
and currently fresh rom 2.0, The keyboard lag is rediculous on this thing, and one of the worst keyboards I have ever used. The lag makes it unusable..
I have installed the 2.1 HTC IME keyboard, the 1.5 stock HTC KB, and the same one on the droid eris. Nothing helps.
The droid eris' keyboard works perfectly for some reason and for the hero, it sucks. It seems everyone will comment saying
"Mine doesn't lag"
If someone cannot come up with a possible fix, can someone please explain why their is lag on the HTC KB.

you might consider using xdas
lotsa options :-D
not sure if its more lightweight and less lag, and i hate to say it but...mine doesnt lag and i have no explanation
try regawmods rom. he has a black keyboard, its pimp. i found that while i dont experience LAG per-say, when compared to his, his was much more RESPONSIVE.

I'll join in. Mine has lag and I couldn't figure it out. I just installed Fresh 2.0d today to see if it's different. So far... no.

I agree with you, mine did lag. I'm using Sushi rom and the black htc keyboard is very responsive. Also, the AOSP keyboard never lagged one bit. I love it.

I'm running Fresh 2.0d. I'm also using Better Keyboard from the market...and I have no lag. The only time I will notice lag is if the phone is recieving a call while I'm texting, or if an app is installing after download. Aside from that...I'm not noticing a lag.
I also keep my phone as clean as possible. I clear text messages once a week, often clear my call log, ect.

Its mostly the messaging app i've discovered. Try pushing this to your phone. It will give you the stock android 2.1 messaging app which I love, and it is much faster

I started using the beta from swift key and it works nice.

i have to agree. the keyboard lag pisses me off. i can't take it. turning off vibration helps which i dont mind and turning off sound helps but i do mind that. i would really like sound on this.

The 2.1 IME keyboards and the XDA keyboard both lagged for me. Luckily I only have to deal with it long enough to install Estrong's file explorer so I can slap Swype back on. I don't have any lag in Swype.
You could try the non-haptic keyboard here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660506

For me it's not just text messages. It's everywhere on the phone. I will be in the web browser and typing in an address and i will take the e and it sits for a sec then a 3 shows up. Or, I will type and it will pop in the letter, but I can't hit another letter for another second or 2. 1.5 wasn't like this, but I can deal.
Does the better keyboard from the market have the voice to text option? I've been using that a lot lately.

Leukay said:
Its mostly the messaging app i've discovered. Try pushing this to your phone. It will give you the stock android 2.1 messaging app which I love, and it is much faster
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I have the HTC Mms .apk that came with Fresh 2.0, but I am a noob, when it comes to the adb stuff, could you please or someone explain how to install the stock 2.1 Mms.apk , I will give it a shot and hope it works.
I hate to say this, but the one thing the iPhone has over this is the KB. I am not an apple fanboy, I prefer android. But the KB lag makes the phones only input method virtually unusable.

1.5 was like this also. everything i tried has a keyboard lag. better keyboard is ok but it lags also.
every keyboard lags for some reason.

mjz147 said:
I have the HTC Mms .apk that came with Fresh 2.0, but I am a noob, when it comes to the adb stuff, could you please or someone explain how to install the stock 2.1 Mms.apk , I will give it a shot and hope it works.
I hate to say this, but the one thing the iPhone has over this is the KB. I am not an apple fanboy, I prefer android. But the KB lag makes the phones only input method virtually unusable.
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the stock keyboard lags also. don't even bother but it is close to better keyboard in performance. i wish there was a way to boost protity on the keyboard apps.
is there an app for that???

exactly, and its not just texting, every text field its ridiculous.

i just tried disabling everything in better keyboard and it isn't helping.
i tried looking for an apps that would increase the cpu priority on apps (keyboard) but i couldn't find any...

dondadah88 said:
i just tried disabling everything in better keyboard and it isn't helping.
i tried looking for an apps that would increase the cpu priority on apps (keyboard) but i couldn't find any...
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I dont think increasing the priority will help, but download Auto Memory Manager from the market.. Go to running processes, long hold it, and increase the priority or just say never kill, gives it the highest.

Jus10o said:
I dont think increasing the priority will help, but download Auto Memory Manager from the market.. Go to running processes, long hold it, and increase the priority or just say never kill, gives it the highest.
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i'm downloading and trying it now.

I turned off Vibrate when typing and I don't lag one bit, prior to doing that I lagged a ton.

CodeMonk said:
For me it's not just text messages. It's everywhere on the phone. I will be in the web browser and typing in an address and i will take the e and it sits for a sec then a 3 shows up. Or, I will type and it will pop in the letter, but I can't hit another letter for another second or 2. 1.5 wasn't like this, but I can deal.
Does the better keyboard from the market have the voice to text option? I've been using that a lot lately.
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Yes........

I have also experienced EXTREME lag in most of the 2.1 roms out right now. Esp. DC and Fresh. Turned off vibrations, turned off sound, installed every keyboard I could find including AOSP and it didn't help. The lag was all over the place too just like others reported - not just in text messages or email.
Then I found a fix...
A rom without Sense. So far it's the only thing that has worked for me (other than reverting back to a 1.5 rom - yuck). Ic3 and MatrixROM both have 0 lag and run beautifully for me. Haven't tried the newer Sense-less roms yet.
Hope this helps!

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keyboard lag!!!!

I have seen a few people saying that darchs roms have virtually no keyboard lag compared to the sprint builds. Has anyone come up with a good solution or app alternative in the sprint 2.1 roms to reduce keyboard lag. I love the new roms but the lag is slowly eating away at me. I must have gotten spoiled.
Yes, I agree. Perhaps it has something to do with the voice input? The keyboard was soooo smooth on DC1.
swype!
10char
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swype!
10char
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can anyone confirm that the older keyboard is faster? I'll flash that ****er in a heartbeat if it is. I might try swipe too, I see that swipe light link up, looking pretty tempting.
The new XDA-modified keyboard definitely has more lag than the stock HTC keyboard.
Tikerz said:
The new XDA-modified keyboard definitely has more lag than the stock HTC keyboard.
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Actually no. Both keyboards gave me ridiculous lag in the new 2.1's. However, ever since I applied a new Rosie theme through MetaMorph, believe it or not, I have little to no keyboard lag now.
Well I did notice that the new keyboard lagged very bad, so i ended up going back to the stock keyboard. It still has some lag, but it is noticeably faster than the new one.
Turn off any kind of feedback (vibration and sound) if you have not done so already.
with all types of feedback off, I still lag on the new keyboard. I did slightly on the old one, but this is noticeable.
I agree, the new, updated keyboard is significantly laggier. And smiley's and the voice to text button (which isn't even very accurate). I would obviously be ideal is someone could come up with a solution to make the new one less laggy.
In the mean time, does anyone have a good tutorial for switching back to the old keyboard?
Give me a minute or so and I'll have a batch script that'll get the new one back for you... You DO have the old keyboard, right? Or do you need that too?
Batch script to reinstall old keyboard
Hey. Here is the batch script as promised. Make sure you put the script, as well as the old HTC_IME.apk in the SAME DIRECTORY that ADB is located. If you need the old HTC_IME.apk, you can google for it or find a ROM, extract it, then go to /system/app and copy it out.
Hmm, now that it was mentioned, 1.0 did have almost no lag with the keyboard. I am back running 1.5 right now. Waiting for OEM 2.1.
i agree. this keyboard lag is pissing me off. i can't take it.
if there a way to allocate some resources to the keyboard. i don't use the vibration but i do use the sound. it makes me know that i pressed something and makes my feel more secure when i am pressing another button so the sound is a must for me.
Flipz put a zip on the first page of his fresh Rom. I flashed it a little while ago. It's a little bit faster, not a ton though. I'm sure someone will have it running quick soon enough.
can you explain this keyboard a bit more???
i would like to try it out if possible. i like the smileys but i only used it twice and i like the voice command but i only used to to show it off.
I use shapewriter, and it's just as quick as it was on any other rom, even stock. and I can type (well, shape) much faster
Hi guys
Yes.. there is a bad lag...
I found a small fix
there is a "pop up" setting in keyboard setting
it is set to 750...change it to a lower setting. I have mine on 300.
Also change the vibrate length to 15 and enable it..
This helped my lag... but itis not gone!
Dan330 said:
Hi guys
Yes.. there is a bad lag...
I found a small fix
there is a "pop up" setting in keyboard setting
it is set to 750...change it to a lower setting. I have mine on 300.
Also change the vibrate length to 15 and enable it..
This helped my lag... but itis not gone!
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i can confirm. this def took away alot of the lag thank you

Aria Annoyances (scrolling and messages)

Does anyone else experience these?
1. Sometimes when scrolling a webpage, it starts scrolling really fast, fast enough to reach the bottom of the page.
2. When replying to a text message, the keyboard sometimes overlaps the last few messages and other times repositions the list so you do not need to scroll.
These two things are really annoying
I experience the messaging bug a lot. I kind of got used to it but it is quite annoying. I had a Euro Hero that didn't do this at all. Are you rooted and using a custom ROM? I'm still on stock but will be rooting soon.
sent from my HTC Aria.
I've experienced the speed-scroll many times. Hands down the most frustrating experience of this otherwise excellent phone.
Regarding the speed scroll, I have the captivate and it will occassionally do the same thing. I'm more inclined to believe it's an android thing than a device specific thing.
That message thing was driving me crazy when I first got the phone. Im on cyanogenmod now and it doesn't do it anymore.
blackviper71 said:
Regarding the speed scroll, I have the captivate and it will occassionally do the same thing. I'm more inclined to believe it's an android thing than a device specific thing.
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its more a problem with touch technology in general. you can do the same think on a trackpad.
I'm on stock so I may switch to cyanogen to fix the message issue.
My iphone never had scrolling issues. Maybe I will post about it in the general android forums and see if other android users are having problems. It is really horrible.

Swype issues in JI6?

I was a huge fan of swype. It was super fast, super accurate, and I thought it was a nice, elegant solution to a relatively inelegant problem (virtual keyboards, more often than not, suck).
All of this was true BEFORE the JI6 update.
Now I find that swype's accuracy is MUCH lower than it used to be. It lags occasionally, so it doesn't grab every letter I swipe past. It doesn't "learn" words nearly as fast as it used to.
I told my wife, and she said, "Oh, thank god, I thought it was just me." So I'm thinking we can't be the only two people this is happening to. Anyone have any clue what happened to swype?
same problem with me
I agree. I love swype. But I hate that it learns EVERY typo that I type. Something I did that seems to help was clear my swype user dictionary (the words I have taught it)
Menu > settings > applications > manage applications > menu, filter, all > swype > clear data.
It does delete all of the words you have taught the keyboard... But then you can re-add the words you use every day (swear words. Ducking swype)
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Did you do the JI6 OTA or download ODIN via one of the threads here? I noticed this same problem it was killing me I was so good at Swype before then it turned to crap. I used ODIN JI6 FWIW, and have since gone into Swype settings and moved the slider more towards "accuracy" from "speed" (about in the middle now) and it seems to have helped...a little...gonna give it some more time...
Definitely noticing this on JI6.
man i thought i was the only one...ever since i got the update same thing swype has been lagging and the words are def not coming out as accurate or fast. im gonna try and clear the dictionary and see if it helps...other then that the j16 update seemed to be a good thing...
In my opinion, it's a little off. I wish the stock android keyboard had swype so i can go back and forth from swype to typing without changing the keyboard (yeah i know you can type with swype but its doesn't feel as great)
I'm having the same issue with Swype. Before the JI6, swype was just amazing and far better than any phone keyboard I have ever used including the iPhone. Hope they fix it in the next update.
I have also experienced the "lag" while using swype after J16
Tho I'll get use to it i guess, still wish it was like it was before the update....
Well, at least I know I'm not the only one!
I'll try clearing the dictionary, see if that does anything. (You've found a HIDDEN WORD! Great, I always wanted to go on a scavenger hunt)
Thanks, guys... I'll poke around some more and see if I can find anything about this.
Oh, and @jalsing: I didn't upgrade via ODIN, I used the KIES Mini upgrade that Samsung released after people complained so much about how slowly the OTA was being pushed from T-Mobile.
I manually adjusted the settings to better accuracy over speed, which seemed to help, but yeah... lots of crazy words show up every now and then
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well i ended up doing a factory reset...jst reinstalled my apps but all my data from sd card were still there...works perfectly now super snappy j16 update is still intact and swype is back to working excellent!!

Firefox..

Has anyone tried firefox on the D2. I used on my vibrant and evo and it was a mess, but i see with the new beta it takes up less memory. Im just curious if anyone has used it on D2 and how it performs?.
firefox on my d2 was horrible and didnt have flash support. lag lag crash crash and even when it was my default explorer, the webkit always opened when i hit a link.
Renegade8100 said:
firefox on my d2 was horrible and didnt have flash support. lag lag crash crash and even when it was my default explorer, the webkit always opened when i hit a link.
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Sounds about right. It made my evo seem like a super-turd lol.
Well, guess ill wait to run it. The idea is great, execution just not right yet. Thanks for the reply
Shot from my level 60 crossbow of awesomness!
I've been running it for a couple weeks and it's ok. A bit laggy. Like the builtin sync.
Sender: rooted D2, fission 2.2.2, 1.35g lv, Launcher Pro
I wanted to just check out the "improvements" made. I cant type numbers or capitals with the physical keyboard.
OMG
What a disgrace! Mozilla better fix this thing. Nothing works and i cant get it to anything without it crashin
I'm not sure what you are seeing, but I have no issue typing in firefox. Caps, numbers, symbols...
Broken flash and laggy performance are my only issues. Have been using as my default since last release hit.
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lerret said:
I'm not sure what you are seeing, but I have no issue typing in firefox. Caps, numbers, symbols...
Broken flash and laggy performance are my only issues. Have been using as my default since last release hit.
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I cant even sign into facebook, it crashes and if it doesnt crash it says connection was interupted. Im uninstalling, same as ive done on my evo and vibrant. Its got a ways to go before i can use it daily
Runs OK. I like it mainly for access to my bookmarks on my laptop. I use Dolphin as my main browser, although I am checking out a few others. I can't get Firefox to run on my tablet; the window is dim and the keyboard will not work.
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mikeyinid said:
I cant even sign into facebook, it crashes and if it doesnt crash it says connection was interupted. Im uninstalling, same as ive done on my evo and vibrant. Its got a ways to go before i can use it daily
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It's still in Beta so not everything is going to work right. It's being tested and improved. So if everything doesn't work that you need just stick to the stock browser until a Final version is released.
I don't care for it, I'll stick to the stock browser...

Is there a patch for the "in browser" typing delay?

3.1 didn't help resolve the annoying typing delay on this pad. I played with a Xoom and the small Samsung and it didn't have this problem.
Have there been any patches or fixes released? I was really hoping 3.1 would do it, but it didn't.
I also would love to get this. It's literally the ONLY issue I have with this device.
Didn't someone say turning off some option will help or switch to generic keyboard? I'm not really sure what the issue is, I don't think I've had it.
I noticed this problem pretty quickly and was very bothered by it. I tried out a couple different browsers and found that Opera was the only one with good keyboard responsiveness. While it may not be the best browser in other respects, it trumps all other browsers for this reason.
Now I wish there were an easy option to turn off tap-to-click. Damn thing throws me off everytime I type.
is this with the dock or the onscreen keyboard as well?
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I also would love to get this. It's literally the ONLY issue I have with this device.
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Yea, me too. It's pushing me to reconsider the Samsung 10.1.
I've only experienced typing lag on vBulletin based forums sites with the stock browser - and for example here on XDA if you choose the classic skin things improve quite a bit.
Its been mentioned many times before, that the "lag" isn't a "Transformer issue" per-se but a stock browser problem on certain sites. I've tried XDA with Firefox and Dolphin Mini and the there's no real lag that i can see, which further points to the stock browser..
Or are you guys experiencing lag on any web page with the stock browser?? (in which case I'll get my coat)
Try switching to the Honeycomb keyboard instead of the Asus keyboard.
jerrykur said:
Try switching to the Honeycomb keyboard instead of the Asus keyboard.
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That's worse for me.
jms_uk said:
I've only experienced typing lag on vBulletin based forums sites with the stock browser - and for example here on XDA if you choose the classic skin things improve quite a bit.
Its been mentioned many times before, that the "lag" isn't a "Transformer issue" per-se but a stock browser problem on certain sites. I've tried XDA with Firefox and Dolphin Mini and the there's no real lag that i can see, which further points to the stock browser..
Or are you guys experiencing lag on any web page with the stock browser?? (in which case I'll get my coat)
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Yes. The amount of lag may vary slightly between sites but it is still there and annoying. Dolphin made no difference for me. I've tested both the Xoom, Samsung and Acer in stores and they don't seem to have the problem.
The best test for A/B comparing purposes is to just type the numbers 1 thru 9 quickly and see what's left when you are done. For me when I'm done "7" is usually on the screen.
Try this temp fix
1. go to google.com
2. select settings in the upper right and click on search settings
3. disable google instant
This seems much better for me. Others may vary.
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I've figured it out. It's a text box issue. Go into XDA forum settings. Change the text box to "simple "and skin to classic and enjoy lag free typing on this forum.
I'm pretty sure ASUS will post an update for this typing lag... althought typing lag has improved only slightly by changing user agent to Tablet (or to Android on dolphin browser)... will just have to be patient on the update
transceiver said:
I've figured it out. It's a text box issue. Go into XDA forum settings. Change the text box to "simple "and skin to classic and enjoy lag free typing on this forum.
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Makes no difference here (and of course it wouldn't help when using any other website that requires a typed response).
danielsjam said:
Try this temp fix
1. go to google.com
2. select settings in the upper right and click on search settings
3. disable google instant
This seems much better for me. Others may vary.
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Been there, done that, no help.
I hate the responsiveness of the Asus keyboard, but the stock keyboard does a nice job. I wish the layout was better, but I will take the responsiveness of the stock keyboard over the layout of the Asus one with crappy responsiveness.
nebrando said:
I hate the responsiveness of the Asus keyboard, but the stock keyboard does a nice job. I wish the layout was better, but I will take the responsiveness of the stock keyboard over the layout of the Asus one with crappy responsiveness.
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Both keyboards are the same for me. I just came back from the mall where I tested a Xoom, Samsung Galaxy Tab , T-Mobile G-Slate and iPad and none of them had any delay anywhere. I simply go to the forum, log in and type 123456789 in an empty reply to a message and see what's left when I am finished typing. The only problematic one seems to be the Asus.
U know what , out of the typing delay frustration i went on to try my most trusted browser for my froyo phone, miren and walla no lag in typing. But since miren is not build for honeycomb there are some fc here n there as expected. But the feature i love most, the smart full screen still works in honeycomb yay !!!
Part from that, it also doesnt have the image tearing issue when u scroll the browser quickly most probably related to hardware acceleration that is implemented on honeycomb browser.
Conclusion,the typing lag is definitely caused by the browser itself or even the webkit itself :-(
Too bad miren's developement stopped :-(
I think there's more than one "typing delay" issue here.
The one that I'm having 1) does not depend on which keyboard is used, and 2) is just as bad on Xoom. Just go to http://slashdot.org, open any story, and try to post a comment there - and watch characters you type being entered at like 1 per second...
I am typing this on the dolphin browser HD which has just been updated today. I am using Smart keyboard pro and cannot notice any lag. This reply is on the XDA 2010 theme.
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I am typing this on the dolphin browser HD which has just been updated today. I am using Smart keyboard pro and cannot notice any lag. This reply is on the XDA 2010 theme.
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I just tried downloading the free trial of Smart Keyboard Pro and keep getting "Purchase Cancelled, error processing purchase."
Hmmm, seems I can't download anything from the Market ... get the same error with Dolphin.

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