I have seen a few people saying that darchs roms have virtually no keyboard lag compared to the sprint builds. Has anyone come up with a good solution or app alternative in the sprint 2.1 roms to reduce keyboard lag. I love the new roms but the lag is slowly eating away at me. I must have gotten spoiled.
Yes, I agree. Perhaps it has something to do with the voice input? The keyboard was soooo smooth on DC1.
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can anyone confirm that the older keyboard is faster? I'll flash that ****er in a heartbeat if it is. I might try swipe too, I see that swipe light link up, looking pretty tempting.
The new XDA-modified keyboard definitely has more lag than the stock HTC keyboard.
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The new XDA-modified keyboard definitely has more lag than the stock HTC keyboard.
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Actually no. Both keyboards gave me ridiculous lag in the new 2.1's. However, ever since I applied a new Rosie theme through MetaMorph, believe it or not, I have little to no keyboard lag now.
Well I did notice that the new keyboard lagged very bad, so i ended up going back to the stock keyboard. It still has some lag, but it is noticeably faster than the new one.
Turn off any kind of feedback (vibration and sound) if you have not done so already.
with all types of feedback off, I still lag on the new keyboard. I did slightly on the old one, but this is noticeable.
I agree, the new, updated keyboard is significantly laggier. And smiley's and the voice to text button (which isn't even very accurate). I would obviously be ideal is someone could come up with a solution to make the new one less laggy.
In the mean time, does anyone have a good tutorial for switching back to the old keyboard?
Give me a minute or so and I'll have a batch script that'll get the new one back for you... You DO have the old keyboard, right? Or do you need that too?
Batch script to reinstall old keyboard
Hey. Here is the batch script as promised. Make sure you put the script, as well as the old HTC_IME.apk in the SAME DIRECTORY that ADB is located. If you need the old HTC_IME.apk, you can google for it or find a ROM, extract it, then go to /system/app and copy it out.
Hmm, now that it was mentioned, 1.0 did have almost no lag with the keyboard. I am back running 1.5 right now. Waiting for OEM 2.1.
i agree. this keyboard lag is pissing me off. i can't take it.
if there a way to allocate some resources to the keyboard. i don't use the vibration but i do use the sound. it makes me know that i pressed something and makes my feel more secure when i am pressing another button so the sound is a must for me.
Flipz put a zip on the first page of his fresh Rom. I flashed it a little while ago. It's a little bit faster, not a ton though. I'm sure someone will have it running quick soon enough.
can you explain this keyboard a bit more???
i would like to try it out if possible. i like the smileys but i only used it twice and i like the voice command but i only used to to show it off.
I use shapewriter, and it's just as quick as it was on any other rom, even stock. and I can type (well, shape) much faster
Hi guys
Yes.. there is a bad lag...
I found a small fix
there is a "pop up" setting in keyboard setting
it is set to 750...change it to a lower setting. I have mine on 300.
Also change the vibrate length to 15 and enable it..
This helped my lag... but itis not gone!
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Hi guys
Yes.. there is a bad lag...
I found a small fix
there is a "pop up" setting in keyboard setting
it is set to 750...change it to a lower setting. I have mine on 300.
Also change the vibrate length to 15 and enable it..
This helped my lag... but itis not gone!
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i can confirm. this def took away alot of the lag thank you
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I have the Sprint Hero, and used the stock rom for 5 months,
DC 2.05
DC 2.07
and currently fresh rom 2.0, The keyboard lag is rediculous on this thing, and one of the worst keyboards I have ever used. The lag makes it unusable..
I have installed the 2.1 HTC IME keyboard, the 1.5 stock HTC KB, and the same one on the droid eris. Nothing helps.
The droid eris' keyboard works perfectly for some reason and for the hero, it sucks. It seems everyone will comment saying
"Mine doesn't lag"
If someone cannot come up with a possible fix, can someone please explain why their is lag on the HTC KB.
you might consider using xdas
lotsa options :-D
not sure if its more lightweight and less lag, and i hate to say it but...mine doesnt lag and i have no explanation
try regawmods rom. he has a black keyboard, its pimp. i found that while i dont experience LAG per-say, when compared to his, his was much more RESPONSIVE.
I'll join in. Mine has lag and I couldn't figure it out. I just installed Fresh 2.0d today to see if it's different. So far... no.
I agree with you, mine did lag. I'm using Sushi rom and the black htc keyboard is very responsive. Also, the AOSP keyboard never lagged one bit. I love it.
I'm running Fresh 2.0d. I'm also using Better Keyboard from the market...and I have no lag. The only time I will notice lag is if the phone is recieving a call while I'm texting, or if an app is installing after download. Aside from that...I'm not noticing a lag.
I also keep my phone as clean as possible. I clear text messages once a week, often clear my call log, ect.
Its mostly the messaging app i've discovered. Try pushing this to your phone. It will give you the stock android 2.1 messaging app which I love, and it is much faster
I started using the beta from swift key and it works nice.
i have to agree. the keyboard lag pisses me off. i can't take it. turning off vibration helps which i dont mind and turning off sound helps but i do mind that. i would really like sound on this.
The 2.1 IME keyboards and the XDA keyboard both lagged for me. Luckily I only have to deal with it long enough to install Estrong's file explorer so I can slap Swype back on. I don't have any lag in Swype.
You could try the non-haptic keyboard here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660506
For me it's not just text messages. It's everywhere on the phone. I will be in the web browser and typing in an address and i will take the e and it sits for a sec then a 3 shows up. Or, I will type and it will pop in the letter, but I can't hit another letter for another second or 2. 1.5 wasn't like this, but I can deal.
Does the better keyboard from the market have the voice to text option? I've been using that a lot lately.
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Its mostly the messaging app i've discovered. Try pushing this to your phone. It will give you the stock android 2.1 messaging app which I love, and it is much faster
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I have the HTC Mms .apk that came with Fresh 2.0, but I am a noob, when it comes to the adb stuff, could you please or someone explain how to install the stock 2.1 Mms.apk , I will give it a shot and hope it works.
I hate to say this, but the one thing the iPhone has over this is the KB. I am not an apple fanboy, I prefer android. But the KB lag makes the phones only input method virtually unusable.
1.5 was like this also. everything i tried has a keyboard lag. better keyboard is ok but it lags also.
every keyboard lags for some reason.
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I have the HTC Mms .apk that came with Fresh 2.0, but I am a noob, when it comes to the adb stuff, could you please or someone explain how to install the stock 2.1 Mms.apk , I will give it a shot and hope it works.
I hate to say this, but the one thing the iPhone has over this is the KB. I am not an apple fanboy, I prefer android. But the KB lag makes the phones only input method virtually unusable.
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the stock keyboard lags also. don't even bother but it is close to better keyboard in performance. i wish there was a way to boost protity on the keyboard apps.
is there an app for that???
exactly, and its not just texting, every text field its ridiculous.
i just tried disabling everything in better keyboard and it isn't helping.
i tried looking for an apps that would increase the cpu priority on apps (keyboard) but i couldn't find any...
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i just tried disabling everything in better keyboard and it isn't helping.
i tried looking for an apps that would increase the cpu priority on apps (keyboard) but i couldn't find any...
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I dont think increasing the priority will help, but download Auto Memory Manager from the market.. Go to running processes, long hold it, and increase the priority or just say never kill, gives it the highest.
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I dont think increasing the priority will help, but download Auto Memory Manager from the market.. Go to running processes, long hold it, and increase the priority or just say never kill, gives it the highest.
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i'm downloading and trying it now.
I turned off Vibrate when typing and I don't lag one bit, prior to doing that I lagged a ton.
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For me it's not just text messages. It's everywhere on the phone. I will be in the web browser and typing in an address and i will take the e and it sits for a sec then a 3 shows up. Or, I will type and it will pop in the letter, but I can't hit another letter for another second or 2. 1.5 wasn't like this, but I can deal.
Does the better keyboard from the market have the voice to text option? I've been using that a lot lately.
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Yes........
I have also experienced EXTREME lag in most of the 2.1 roms out right now. Esp. DC and Fresh. Turned off vibrations, turned off sound, installed every keyboard I could find including AOSP and it didn't help. The lag was all over the place too just like others reported - not just in text messages or email.
Then I found a fix...
A rom without Sense. So far it's the only thing that has worked for me (other than reverting back to a 1.5 rom - yuck). Ic3 and MatrixROM both have 0 lag and run beautifully for me. Haven't tried the newer Sense-less roms yet.
Hope this helps!
Is it just me or are you guys also realizing that swype is absolutely horrible on the htc aria. The aria has too small of a screen to be able to use swype well. Whenever I drag my finger to the next letter i cant see if im on that letter because my finger is over it and the screen is so small.
Just wondering what you guys thought about swype on the aria
Love it on the Aria. I am used to the small screen though, from my htc magic.
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its not bad... i had it on my htc pure and the screen was also small, but i had a stylus on that which made things a lot easier.
I see what you're talking about. Fortunately I know where the keys are without seeing them so this isn't really a problem for me.
Love Swype on Aria, the point of using Swype is you don't need to look at the keyboard to type fast, which means you do need to know the position of the keys. I don't think it will make much different with a bigger screen since my thumb will still cover the keys I'm trying to type.
My only complaint about Swype is that you give up the voice-type feature when you use it. They really ought to reincorporate that feature, since it's nice to be able to take notes when I'm mumble, mumble, COUGH driving COUGH.
There. Now I've gone and done it. I've made Oprah hate me.
Regards,
Corporate Dog
EDIT: Oh. I forgot. I actually have TWO complaints.
I HATE how the recommended words pop-up is implemented. If I'm typing 'Bioware', and Swype recommends 'beware', I'd prefer it if my closing of the pop-up meant, "No. I don't care for any of your suggestions. Keep what I typed, as I typed it." rather than, "Accept the top recommendation."
I know there's a user dictionary in my phone, and I've certainly added to it, but I'm constantly using non-standard words.
They put the microphone back in the latest beta, which they closed like 3 days after they opened it.
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I see what you're talking about. Fortunately I know where the keys are without seeing them so this isn't really a problem for me.
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Same here.
It does get annoying from time to time, but I find it much easier than the standard keyboard. Especially when typing ridiculously long words which swype seems to pick up without a hitch.
Yea, I find the lack of a microphone shortcut annoying, too. Since I use Swype with my index finger, I don't really have a problem with the screen being too small. Swype is supposed to be able to correct for errors, anyways, but I have seen the correction fail at times. Swype is still more accurate than voice, anyways, and you can always resort to typing it out if Swype doesn't recognize it, which I think makes it better than voice. It would be amazing if voice worked perfectly, though, I'd never have to type again.
have you ever caught yourself typing a phone number, and for some reason you must leave the phone before saving the number, and then when you come back, the phone is already on standby/lock and the numbers you type has just lost into thin air? it's the same when you're viewing a conversation history in htc messaging. once the phone goes to auto standby/lock, the message you were viewing is gone.
anyone knows the solution to that? thanks.
The FM radio reception of HD2 is bad. The background noise and interruption really pisses you off.
the well known video playback audio delay of about 250 ms issue is by far the most painful, will HTC ever fix it ????
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have you ever caught yourself typing a phone number, and for some reason you must leave the phone before saving the number, and then when you come back, the phone is already on standby/lock and the numbers you type has just lost into thin air? it's the same when you're viewing a conversation history in htc messaging. once the phone goes to auto standby/lock, the message you were viewing is gone.
anyone knows the solution to that? thanks.
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adjust your backlight settings so the phone doesn't go to standby so far. Also turn off the autolock feature and you can manually lock the phone instead.
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the well known video playback audio delay of about 250 ms issue is by far the most painful, will HTC ever fix it ????
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The same one I wouldn't even know about without reading on here.
for me, the most annoying thing about the hd2 is that the proximity sensor plays games with me sometimes, combined with this useless phonecall-lock-screen (HUGE hang up and unlock buttons!) is really a pain in the ass. if there was just an application that shut off the screen when making a phone call until i press any hardware key...
(and no, i don't want an iphone-looking lockscreen on my htc)
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the well known video playback audio delay of about 250 ms issue is by far the most painful, will HTC ever fix it ????
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not painful at all if you use tcpmp or coreplayer. just adjust the settings and you're ready to go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7119860&postcount=302
The fact that it only worked as it was supposed to for 30 days. This means that from my 6 months of HD2 experience, only one was proper.
Until we got summer temps here I was maximum satisfied with my HD2: running smoothly, once a month maybe a freeze (to be corrected with batt out). Now, at high summer temps, it´s completely useless: doesn´t charge in the car, freezes when it gets hot in the car in navi-mode (and even without navi on).
This phone is only for polar-researchers ..........
Here are a few off the top of my head...
1) There are no 'real' snooze options when a calendar appointment alert pops up (WORKAROUND: Restored the WM default)
2) The 'Cannot delete SMS messages when saved to SIM card' bug (WORKAROUND: Put SIM card in another phone, delete the message, and put back into the HD2)
3) Not being able to disable the irritating clock 'flip' animation when turning on the screen. (WORKAROUND: ???)
4) When locking the screen, there is no way to set it up so where you can unlock it via just the slider and NOT having to enter in your password (WORKAROUND: ???)
I hate its keyboard its so annoying ..its so innacurate ...whenevrr i use it ...it feels like someone else is typing not me ... ii press j and the keyboard detects it as m ....anyone got any solution ?
use slide-it, slide or type is good for me.
Until now i am sattisfied with the phone after a few cabs like cookie home tab and another radio. I don`t play games and use some apps for news and forum like xda. for me its great, i like the size. One minor thing is a blob in the screen which is expensive to make, because i don`t trust myself to do it.
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The only thing for me is the lack of apps and the keyboard could be better...
I'm running Elegancia rom with CHT and its transformed the phone for me, i would have sent it back after a week running a stock rom...
My missus has just got a HD Mini the keyboard is miles better even though its smaller, is it a different screen does anyone know, i've tried all the different sensitivity options with the HD2 and i've got it so its liveable with, but the Mini is much much better out the box...
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I hate its keyboard its so annoying ..its so innacurate ...whenevrr i use it ...it feels like someone else is typing not me ... ii press j and the keyboard detects it as m ....anyone got any solution ?
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I agree the keyboard is absolutly crap. I can`t believe that given the amount of ROM updates there has been ( I flash ALOT) that they still haven`t fixed this issue. I hate the Iphone but typing on my misses is perfect. 100% accurate all the time.
To be honest my HD2 keyboard is only any good shortly after flashing a new rom, it seems great for a few days and then slowly deteriates to completely inaccurate and painstaking to type any sort of message. I just don`t bother writing long text messages anymore.
The swype keyboards are just as useless as i can`t see the letters whilst my finger is on the keyboard.
I refuse to do any registry tweeks as to honest why should I. Just sort it out.......
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I refuse to do any registry tweeks as to honest why should I. Just sort it out.......
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I dont think a WM phone is for you then..............
Most annoying thing about the HD2............. people spending their time moaning about it when they could be sorting out the problem...........
lol... do you also "refuse" to take your car to a shop if something isnt right with it? what a childish attitude. winmo phones are blank slates, they are meant to be customized. if you refuse to do anything to change it to your liking, i suggest getting a blackberry or a sidekick.
anyway... one thing i dont like about the hd2 is the capacitive screen. i like the fact that its glass, but its SO damn inaccurate. i rarely used the hardware keyboard on my touch pro 2, i just tapped out texts with the onscreen keyboard with my thumbnails so its not like i NEED a physical keyboard, i just wish this one was accurate. i wish i could use my thumbnails now, i have more backspaces than actual letters now typing with the pads of my thumbs. ive tried every tweak too, its passable but still infuriating.
oh, another thing i hate- the sound quality. it SUCKS! same story too, ive tried every tweak & its passable, but still crappy.
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Here are a few off the top of my head...
3) Not being able to disable the irritating clock 'flip' animation when turning on the screen. (WORKAROUND: ???)
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oh, another thing i hate- the sound quality. it SUCKS! same story too, ive tried every tweak & its passable, but still crappy.
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do you mean the sound from the speaker or even when you're wearing headphone? because the sound is fine with a good headphone.
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I agree the keyboard is absolutly crap. I can`t believe that given the amount of ROM updates there has been ( I flash ALOT) that they still haven`t fixed this issue. I hate the Iphone but typing on my misses is perfect. 100% accurate all the time.
To be honest my HD2 keyboard is only any good shortly after flashing a new rom, it seems great for a few days and then slowly deteriates to completely inaccurate and painstaking to type any sort of message. I just don`t bother writing long text messages anymore.
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+1, even with the newer ROMs and trying Swype and Slide-It, I still sread sending long emails/texts
bobthemad said:
Here are a few off the top of my head...
1) There are no 'real' snooze options when a calendar appointment alert pops up (WORKAROUND: Restored the WM default)
2) The 'Cannot delete SMS messages when saved to SIM card' bug (WORKAROUND: Put SIM card in another phone, delete the message, and put back into the HD2)
3) Not being able to disable the irritating clock 'flip' animation when turning on the screen. (WORKAROUND: ???)
4) When locking the screen, there is no way to set it up so where you can unlock it via just the slider and NOT having to enter in your password (WORKAROUND: ???)
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1. don't have a lot of appt's so I don't know
2. Why are you saving texts to a sim? Use microsoft myphone.
http://sn1-p2.myphone.microsoft.com/mkweb/Start.po?mkt=en-US
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6127127&postcount=2
4. go under settings, lock and disable your password. It will ask for your password, then click the check mark (ok) and it will disable it.
On fascinate, the default android keyboard does not have the option to un-check. So, even if I installed other keyboards, only the default keyboard is on. Is there any way to disable the stock keyboard and use other keyboard that I want to use?
Thanks!
jus ordered my fascinate so still wait on mine but as far as I know you cant disabled but to switch it should be the same across the board on androids just tap ur text box then long press in the text box and it should pop up with ur options
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Go to messages. Long press on input feild, go to android keyboard, press it with ur finger, WA la
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In some cases, when you install a new keyboard manually (such as one of my favorites HTC_IME http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416), you have to go to Settings > Language & Keyboard and enable the checkbox next to the keyboard you installed.
After that, the instructions ksizzle listed above still apply.
Thanks!!! I do not have the phone with me right now, but I will try that!!
Coming from an HTC device, which has a keyboard that worked quite nicely, I was utterly disgusted by the horrible keyboard on this phone. Reading around a bit, I decided that Better Keyboard was the way to go, so I decided to shell out the $2.99 for it, and also downloaded a couple of the free themes. I now have a very good looking keyboard, which works 10 times better than the stock one.
ivorycruncher said:
Coming from an HTC device, which has a keyboard that worked quite nicely, I was utterly disgusted by the horrible keyboard on this phone. Reading around a bit, I decided that Better Keyboard was the way to go, so I decided to shell out the $2.99 for it, and also downloaded a couple of the free themes. I now have a very good looking keyboard, which works 10 times better than the stock one.
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Which skin did you go with?
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Which skin did you go with?
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It's called SilverBlue AndroidandMe. It's gray/silver keys over a medium blue background. It seems to fit well with the gray/blue theme that Samsung has implemented on this phone.
this is my first touch screen so what makes the htc and better keyboard better than the stock one?
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Coming from an HTC device, which has a keyboard that worked quite nicely, I was utterly disgusted by the horrible keyboard on this phone. Reading around a bit, I decided that Better Keyboard was the way to go, so I decided to shell out the $2.99 for it, and also downloaded a couple of the free themes. I now have a very good looking keyboard, which works 10 times better than the stock one.
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The HTC_IME keyboard link I posted is pretty much the HTC keyboard with a ton of customizable options. And its a free download.
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The HTC_IME keyboard link I posted is pretty much the HTC keyboard with a ton of customizable options. And its a free download.
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Ah darn, guess I should have hunted a little more. Oh well, I'm happy with better keyboard, and you can apply themes to it, for added value. For the record, I think it works even better than the HTC keyboard, but I'd have to actually try it on this phone to make a fair comparison. All I know is that I can type way faster on this one than I've ever been able to on a touchscreen phone before.
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In some cases, when you install a new keyboard manually (such as one of my favorites HTC_IME http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416), you have to go to Settings > Language & Keyboard and enable the checkbox next to the keyboard you installed.
After that, the instructions ksizzle listed above still apply.
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That worked like a charm. Thanks!
This May just be Another Rant Thread But Hear Me Out. If you Hate The Touchscreen Keyboard Lag on stock Transformer Keyboard then You Really Should Try some other options. I switched to Thumb Keyboard and although not Perfect It waaay Snappier Than the Stock Asus one. If you havent tried out other Keyboards you really Should. It Can make a World of Difference. Plus Thumb Keyboard is So Highly Customizable!
How Long Does It Take You To Type An Entire Paragraph Like This? Does Your Handwriting Look Like This Too?
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How Long Does It Take You To Type An Entire Paragraph Like This? Does Your Handwriting Look Like This Too?
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Troll. -_-
Don't really want to buy the Thumb Keyboard yet. I have Swiftkey and gave that a try. It lags badly with the stock browser, same as the ASUS and Android keyboards.
All the keyboards work just fine with Opera though (and they worked okay with 3.0.1 before the 3.1 update).
go to stock browser type in about:debug press enter. now go to settings and new settings will be there uncheck the first option... download and install thumb keyboard NO LAG!
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Troll. -_-
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I know this is off-topic for this thread, but I find it quite interesting how often I find people who used to type like I did.
As You Read In My First Paragraph, I Have Now "Out Grown" (Or, Morever, Forced Myself Out Of The Habit) Typing In Camel Caps.
The Weird Thing Is, In My Research It Apparently Only Becomes a Habit For Programmers. I Started Typing Like This At A Very Young Age, Probably To Make Myself Seem Older Than I Was Online, And I Always Wonder The Circumstances For Other People Whom I See Type Like This On Internet.
In any case, thanks for the tip. I'm getting a Transformer 5 days from now, and was looking on XDA in the meantime.
Just got this keyboard, completing changes the way I type on the tabet for the better
It's on sale at Amazon for .99 right now. There's still some lag, bit it's hard to notice while you're typing. Indispensible.
Thremix said:
go to stock browser type in about:debug press enter. now go to settings and new settings will be there uncheck the first option... download and install thumb keyboard NO LAG!
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So you mean uncheck " enable opengl rendering in the debug options". I just did that and it is much better with and without the keyboard, also without thumb keyboard.
Trying out Thumb Keyboard, I can definitely vouch for the improved responsiveness in typing, even on demanding sites such as this forum. The lag is more bearable now, so maybe I could go back to the stock Browser since it has the best layout of all the others, IMO.
There is a new swype 3.0 keyboard available in beta that works great!
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I'm using Tablet Keyboard Free. Takes awhile to get used to.