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Leo Impressions

Hi Guys, just thought id post my thoughts on the Leo.
Ive been using mine now for over 2 weeks having come from an N95(and several failed attempts at finding something I liked inbetween including various iphones, N97 etc etc) so to the thoughts.,
The screen for me was a bit tricky as many have said before, I have huge hands, but decided to persevere.
Has to be said that after about a 10 day period typing messages etc became much easier, after 2 weeks it was brilliant, but then came the eureka moment, which it has to be said was'nt good for me, but telling all the same.
After flashing the ROM, the typing experience became similar to a fair proportion of others on here, infuriating!
Now thinking logicly about it, I decided it couldn't be the screen as was fine before, only thing changed was the ROM, so was software, tried a screen align, hmmm, worse still, did it again, slightly better, but still no cigar, went and checked settings and set to how id had it before, no vibrate(seems to fubar typing), keyboard click on, screen click on, correct as you type on, complete words in both XT9 and ABC both on and did screen align again, now zoila, its better than before(after another screen align) no more false inputs although xt9 has to learn my vocab again(annoying) but it really is a revelation.
Now the only thing annoying me is the long sms list issue (although partialy sorted by selecting all messages and going in through WM)
Can I just add, absolutely epic site guys and thanks to all those that spend there own time making the WM experience better for all!!

Noooo! you've got it all wrong. You're supposed to try typing for 5 minutes, throw your toys out the pram and go buy an iPhone.. *then* come on to xda developers and post a nice long rant about how poor the entire phone / windows mobile is (bonus points for expletives and spelling mistakes).
Fixing problems in an intelligent, logical manner? whatever next?!

I just got my HTC HD2 from Royal Mail. Everything seems to be working flawlessly. The screen is just gorgeous and the navigation is really smooth and snappy. The videos online really do not do it justice.
I've just got a few of questions. I heard that Opera does not support flash, is this true? and will this change in the future?
I tried using IE to open youtube but it doesn't seem to play anything. It has the flash 9 logo and that's it. How do I play videos via the web browser?
Also, when I open up IE it says that it connects using my data plan and I may get charged. Does it not work over WiFi?
I'm just uploading files onto it right now but yes, this device has had my jaw on the floor since I opened the packaging. By far the best phone I have ever owned.

StrangeReality said:
I just got my HTC HD2 from Royal Mail. Everything seems to be working flawlessly. The screen is just gorgeous and the navigation is really smooth and snappy. The videos online really do not do it justice.
I've just got a few of questions. I heard that Opera does not support flash, is this true? and will this change in the future?
I tried using IE to open youtube but it doesn't seem to play anything. It has the flash 9 logo and that's it. How do I play videos via the web browser?
Also, when I open up IE it says that it connects using my data plan and I may get charged. Does it not work over WiFi?
I'm just uploading files onto it right now but yes, this device has had my jaw on the floor since I opened the packaging. By far the best phone I have ever owned.
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Opera doesn't support flash.
Use the You Tube app already on your handset, it works perfectly.
For playing videos within your browser, download the Skyfire browser for free. I don't like the interface and therefore only use it when I have to but it supports flash and you can play videos and surf for porn on it lol.

gamma500. looks like you still need to find the return key (aka as enter key) as this is the only thing missing in your message. Or did you type it on a PC keyboard, and is the return key (aka as enter key) broken?

sunking101 said:
Opera doesn't support flash.
Use the You Tube app already on your handset, it works perfectly.
For playing videos within your browser, download the Skyfire browser for free. I don't like the interface and therefore only use it when I have to but it supports flash and you can play videos and surf for porn on it lol.
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I don't have the youtube app, where can I find it? I got my phone from T-Mobile UK if that helps. And I thought IE did support flash?

StrangeReality said:
I don't have the youtube app, where can I find it? I got my phone from T-Mobile UK if that helps. And I thought IE did support flash?
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Opera doesn't support flash and IE only has 'flashlite' which isn't suitable for playing video. You will need to download Skyfire but the You Tube app will be in your start menu - press the icon at the top left of the screen or the windows button in the middle at the bottom - then scroll through the icons.

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Opera doesn't support flash and IE only has 'flashlite' which isn't suitable for playing video. You will need to download Skyfire but the You Tube app will be in your start menu - press the icon at the top left of the screen or the windows button in the middle at the bottom - then scroll through the icons.
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I don't have it pre-installed, is there somewhere I can get it? It's wierd that they didn't include it. Is anybody here on T-Mobile UK who has it pre-installed?

Dont have a HD2 ...yet! But from what I have read Youtube is not included on the T-Mobile handset.

Thanks Christonabike, personally don't see the merit in ranting, seldom effective in sorting issues and htc-hd2, in an effort to be cloggy friendly have inserted a few returns just for you!

StrangeReality said:
I don't have it pre-installed, is there somewhere I can get it? It's wierd that they didn't include it. Is anybody here on T-Mobile UK who has it pre-installed?
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http://rapidshare.com/files/309160325/YouTube_Player_-_WVGA_-_800x480.cab

Fantastic! Disabling the vibrate response was one of the best things I could do! I can actually type for long periods of time with little errors and the XT9 and ABC is working great now, I didn't realise it could learn... so have been typing in all of my Northern Irish phrases that we use over here!
I'm happy once again, I'm really starting to love this phone; was a bit doubtful at the start and was thinking my N95 8gb looked like a good option to go back to but my faith is growing in this device by the day!
Once again to OP, thanks!

It Just gets better with time Rossimac, which only became apparent after having flashed the ROM and thereby losing two weeks of it.

wholly freaking text messaging problems batman!!!

ok so this phone is the best phone i have had.. except who ever tested the text messaging app must not have alot of friends..
i get about 20 people in the list of messages and my whole phone messes up..
i click one guy and the message gets sent to the guy at the bottom of the list.
you gotta really watch out, because it has the right name but the wrong number.
when i click messages from someone with more then 20 it takes 20 seconds to load them up and sometimes when i go back to the today screen the phone crashes..
sometimes i hear the text message sound and i have no new messages..
come to find out the message went ON TOP of the list from that sender.. not on the bottom.
sometimes the indicator that you have a new message never goes away, even after you read it..
anyone else having huge text problems?

first of all great title
im completely with you mate the texting on this phone is a joke
who's clever idea was it to load every single text every time you want to send 1?
plus the keyboard lag is a royal pain in the ass especially as im a fast typer
i have had no problems with sending texts to wrong people however, i think, maybe some people are having a real laugh at my expense..
i hope it gets fixed soon
i just dont understand how an iphone, with some 400mhz processor is 100x smoother than this phone
there must be some real fault somewhere

aarons6 said:
ok so this phone is the best phone i have had.. except who ever tested the text messaging app must not have alot of friends..
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that was really funny.
ROM 1.66 fixed much of this, but still known bugs remain - as reported in this forum.
You were lucky not to be around in Dec 09, when you had to soft reset every time you sent an sms which got 'stuck' in the Outbox!!!
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i forgot to put in that is the tmobile US HD2..

The HTC messaging app is not meant for hardcore text messagers. To stop it from loading every message, you can tap on a message then hit back.
One of the solutions is to disable the HTC messaging and use the default WM6.5 threaded SMS. Google search "disable HTC messaging" and look for Zenyee's CAB to disable it, then look in the WM Theme forum here to find some nice looking WM SMS themes.
The other solution is to disable HTC messaging and use something like BsB Tweaks to enable SMS classic mode, which takes you to an older version of the SMS app when you tap on a message in the messaging tab, that doesn't lag like the new one does, but it doesn't look as nice.

aarons6 said:
i forgot to put in that is the tmobile US HD2..
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I send 100-150 texts a day, and receive just as much.
I never have any problems.
i use full QWERTY and texting speed is quite nice. I mean, multi-touch keyboard would be NICE, but it gets the job done for now.
As much as TMOUS stock ROM fixed lots of glitches, it still doesn't beat most of the ROMs cooked by chefs here.
Try flashing (at your own risk, of course), then see how much your phone has evolved.

Have you tried changing it from conversation mode to traditional mode?
Menu, settings, traditional mode

are there any different messaging clients which can be used instead?

keyboard lag!!!!

I have seen a few people saying that darchs roms have virtually no keyboard lag compared to the sprint builds. Has anyone come up with a good solution or app alternative in the sprint 2.1 roms to reduce keyboard lag. I love the new roms but the lag is slowly eating away at me. I must have gotten spoiled.

Yes, I agree. Perhaps it has something to do with the voice input? The keyboard was soooo smooth on DC1.

swype!
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can anyone confirm that the older keyboard is faster? I'll flash that ****er in a heartbeat if it is. I might try swipe too, I see that swipe light link up, looking pretty tempting.

The new XDA-modified keyboard definitely has more lag than the stock HTC keyboard.

Tikerz said:
The new XDA-modified keyboard definitely has more lag than the stock HTC keyboard.
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Actually no. Both keyboards gave me ridiculous lag in the new 2.1's. However, ever since I applied a new Rosie theme through MetaMorph, believe it or not, I have little to no keyboard lag now.

Well I did notice that the new keyboard lagged very bad, so i ended up going back to the stock keyboard. It still has some lag, but it is noticeably faster than the new one.

Turn off any kind of feedback (vibration and sound) if you have not done so already.

with all types of feedback off, I still lag on the new keyboard. I did slightly on the old one, but this is noticeable.

I agree, the new, updated keyboard is significantly laggier. And smiley's and the voice to text button (which isn't even very accurate). I would obviously be ideal is someone could come up with a solution to make the new one less laggy.
In the mean time, does anyone have a good tutorial for switching back to the old keyboard?

Give me a minute or so and I'll have a batch script that'll get the new one back for you... You DO have the old keyboard, right? Or do you need that too?

Batch script to reinstall old keyboard
Hey. Here is the batch script as promised. Make sure you put the script, as well as the old HTC_IME.apk in the SAME DIRECTORY that ADB is located. If you need the old HTC_IME.apk, you can google for it or find a ROM, extract it, then go to /system/app and copy it out.

Hmm, now that it was mentioned, 1.0 did have almost no lag with the keyboard. I am back running 1.5 right now. Waiting for OEM 2.1.

i agree. this keyboard lag is pissing me off. i can't take it.
if there a way to allocate some resources to the keyboard. i don't use the vibration but i do use the sound. it makes me know that i pressed something and makes my feel more secure when i am pressing another button so the sound is a must for me.

Flipz put a zip on the first page of his fresh Rom. I flashed it a little while ago. It's a little bit faster, not a ton though. I'm sure someone will have it running quick soon enough.

can you explain this keyboard a bit more???
i would like to try it out if possible. i like the smileys but i only used it twice and i like the voice command but i only used to to show it off.

I use shapewriter, and it's just as quick as it was on any other rom, even stock. and I can type (well, shape) much faster

Hi guys
Yes.. there is a bad lag...
I found a small fix
there is a "pop up" setting in keyboard setting
it is set to 750...change it to a lower setting. I have mine on 300.
Also change the vibrate length to 15 and enable it..
This helped my lag... but itis not gone!

Dan330 said:
Hi guys
Yes.. there is a bad lag...
I found a small fix
there is a "pop up" setting in keyboard setting
it is set to 750...change it to a lower setting. I have mine on 300.
Also change the vibrate length to 15 and enable it..
This helped my lag... but itis not gone!
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i can confirm. this def took away alot of the lag thank you

"All Settings" link in Sense, where does it point?

Hi All,
Very weird one this, I hard reset due to installing that virus (3d shoot 'em up thing here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650393 ) and have come across a strange issue within Sense.
When I press "Settings" in the start menu (or slide across to it within Sense) I get the HTC settings menu, so far so good.
When I press "All Settings" under 'Menu' it opens the 'Connections' window, not the standard Windows settings, if I close the 'Connections' window, it returns me to the HTC settings menu.
Anyone know where I might be able to change the link, or at least find what the 'Connections' link is, so I may track it down please?

sorry. didn't fully read your post.
Half-asleep.
Please ignore me this time.

rickyoon.vegas said:
sorry. didn't fully read your post.
Half-asleep.
Please ignore me this time.
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No problem.
I've managed to display the "All Settings" icon, albeit from within the Start Menu using the registry:
hklm -> security -> shell -> startinfo - change the "hidesettings" to 0.
I've found from the above, that "cplmain.cpl,19" seems to reference 'Connections', so pointing my search toward that at the moment.
Unless anyone else has any assistance?

Just noticed your post and having suffered also at the hands of the 3d terrorist bastards I thought I'd check mine......guess what.......all settings displays just fine, everythings there and opens up, trying to get out of it though is a different story, pressing "ok" just causes a pause, screen flicker and then same settings screen to reload.
Another problem I'm having since that virus is neither the htc music player or windows media player work at all.
ringtone doesnt play either.
Is that another hard reset I hear approaching?

conantroutman said:
Just noticed your post and having suffered also at the hands of the 3d terrorist bastards I thought I'd check mine......guess what.......all settings displays just fine, everythings there and opens up, trying to get out of it though is a different story, pressing "ok" just causes a pause, screen flicker and then same settings screen to reload.
Another problem I'm having since that virus is neither the htc music player or windows media player work at all.
ringtone doesnt play either.
Is that another hard reset I hear approaching?
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Unfortunately, I've had to hard reset mine.
It now works fine, maybe just needed another kick!

Same, 2nd hard reset and all is well........ for now!

rp-x1 said:
Unfortunately, I've had to hard reset mine.
It now works fine, maybe just needed another kick!
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conantroutman said:
Same, 2nd hard reset and all is well........ for now!
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These stories are tragic disappointments... I cannot believe everything that has surfaced from this TROJAN program. It's unbelievable... because here we thought that such a thing would NEVER happen to any of us.
I think more attention should be paid towards this issue... it's a rather SERIOUS inconvenience for a lot of people.

Hmmm not had any issues with this trojan other than it dialling out, although I did switch off the phone as it was half way through it's hilarious attempt at pissing me off. Media player is fine, sms is fine, email fine, rss reader, shares, weather, in fact the phone is now running better than ever
One things for sure, I reckon open market will be hit hard by this, once bitten twice shy so to speak.

djingonthenet said:
Hmmm not had any issues with this trojan other than it dialling out, although I did switch off the phone as it was half way through it's hilarious attempt at pissing me off. Media player is fine, sms is fine, email fine, rss reader, shares, weather, in fact the phone is now running better than ever
One things for sure, I reckon open market will be hit hard by this, once bitten twice shy so to speak.
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Nah, I'm a glutton for punishment.
I've learnt a hell of a lot about the registry on this thing that I wouldn't have gone near otherwise!

Issues with 2.1...

Sorry in advance if these have already been pointed out and/or fixed.
I'm aware that this is a leaked beta but i'm having some strange issues.
Mainly being the market not downloading apps. I can browse the internet, browse the market, but nothing will download.
Anyone know of a way to fix this?
Also, i was quite disappointed with the fact that they did next to nothing to the absolutely terrible camera. The shutter speed appears to have improved *slightly* but pictures are still far too sharp and over saturated.
On the other hand, i do like the 720p filming
Another thing i noticed is that interacting with the live wallpapers is way off. When you press the 'Nexus' live wallpaper, the actual 'hit' is almost an inch out. Not a huge deal, just something that's annoying me.
On the plus side, the live wallpapers are incredibly smooth. A lot smoother than on my Nexus, god knows how dell managed that!
But my main hate, the one that annoys me to no end, is that you can now only have 6 icons in landscape. Wtf was the point in that dell? You took the best thing about this phone and made it worse!
Apart from alllll those things, i'm absolutely loving the 2.1 update (especially the dialler) but because of the above mentioned things i'm getting tempted to go back to 1.6. I need to download things dammit!

Another 2 issues that bothered me were the crap keyboard which is VERY slow and if you rush it you get mistypes, sometimes I have to press the same button twice as it did nothing the first time and I get a spelling mistake in every word, the keyboard is messed up.
Anyway to get the superior keyboard from the previous 1.6 with the lovely numpad?
Secondly, there are some problems with the wallpaper/homescreens. There is no way to add or remove them, seems I'm stuck with 6.
I tried to set a simple wallpaper on say screen one and it stretches right outside the screen and fills all 6 screens up, why??!!
I am using the same wallpapers before that are specially for the streak and are set at 800X480 and it stretches one pic across all screeens and it looks distorted, why?
Before I upgraded, I could go to screen one, put a wallpaper, it would fit fine and only in one screen, not fill the other ones too.
Can ANYONE think why this is or even a fix to this problem?
At the moment I have more problems with 2.1 than 1.6...

Glad to see I'm not the only one with these issues. I can't stand the new keyboard, driving me mad but I'll survive. I don't like the new layout of the icons and the fact you can no longer have multiple backgrounds is a shame. Also I've noticed certain widgets just won't sit in the centre of the home screens any more.
I'm hoping because this is a leak that Dell haven't added their personal touches yet and that this will come when they go official otherwise I'll be a sad panda!

ShaunD103 said:
Glad to see I'm not the only one with these issues. I can't stand the new keyboard, driving me mad but I'll survive. I don't like the new layout of the icons and the fact you can no longer have multiple backgrounds is a shame. Also I've noticed certain widgets just won't sit in the centre of the home screens any more.
I'm hoping because this is a leak that Dell haven't added their personal touches yet and that this will come when they go official otherwise I'll be a sad panda!
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Yeah, I guess we have to stick with what we have until it's officially released.
At least we have SOME improvements...

The portions you mention I have not had. It sounds like you have a few issues with your install.
With regards to we everthing else, 2.1 ain't perfect but its a tonne better than the 1.6
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

Of course by portions I mean problems....the swype keyboard although better its still far from perfect
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These issues may go away when the final 2.1 is released

clear the dalvik cache, that sorted the marketplace for me

Hi Meltus
If your Google E-Mail account is Googlemail change it to gmail by logging in through your computer and use the option to change it to a gmail address and that has fixed the Market problems for me and some others hope it works for you.
Marc

Any one else having issues that when talking on the phone with headphones in if you press the lock button it hangs up the call? Found something that drives me even more mad than the keyboard lol.

Not sure what I am doing wrong , but I can't seem to use any 3rd party keyboards ? They install OK , I can select them , but then when I go to use them , the Dell one pops up. (Any ideas ? )
The only issue I noticed , is that the Sleep/wake button stops working properly occasionally , instead of putting the device to sleep , it dims the screen , but the screen stays on ,
Not sure what is going on here , I think the phone may "think" its asleep , as the live wallpaper stops moving , but the screen is definately still awake.
The only way out is to reboot by taking the battery cover off !

Seems an isolated problem I don't have any problem downloading just that some games wont work - more importantly launcherpro looks very strange with tiny icons! Spread a across the screen with Hugh gaps.
kenmckean

i have had EVERY issue above! its beta so im not going to complain but i just hope its much better once the ota arrives

Dogmann said:
Hi Meltus
If your Google E-Mail account is Googlemail change it to gmail by logging in through your computer and use the option to change it to a gmail address and that has fixed the Market problems for me and some others hope it works for you.
Marc
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However, I do believe if you change to Gmail from Googlemaill, any apps you bought with your Googlemail account are NOT carried over.
Hence you have to purchase again, this is why I haven't made the switch yet, until that issue is resolved I will be staying as Googlemail.

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Not sure what I am doing wrong , but I can't seem to use any 3rd party keyboards ? They install OK , I can select them , but then when I go to use them , the Dell one pops up. (Any ideas ? )
The only issue I noticed , is that the Sleep/wake button stops working properly occasionally , instead of putting the device to sleep , it dims the screen , but the screen stays on ,
Not sure what is going on here , I think the phone may "think" its asleep , as the live wallpaper stops moving , but the screen is definately still awake.
The only way out is to reboot by taking the battery cover off !
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Exactly the same problem here.
And to change keyboards, you select it and long press a text box (like in messages) then you pick the keyboard you want from there.
Anyway, i fixed my market problem by changing my e-mail from 'googlemail' to 'gmail' (thanks doggman) and then wiping the phone. Not sure which made it work, or whether it was a combination of both, but it's working good now

Issues I've noticed so far: (Maybe nitpicking but I'm comparing it to all my other Androids)
- Live Wallpaper could be smoother. It's pretty smooth but on such a large screen, little glitches are very noticeable.
- Though the keyboard is a lot more comfortable to use without the numpad throwing the right thumb off, the responsiveness is gone from the previous keyboard. But I'm sticking with it cause its alot better looking than 'Better Keyboard' or 'Smart Keyboard'
- No pinch-to-zoom on pictures in the gallery...very disappointing
- Pinch-to-zoom for maps is there, but responsiveness needs work. Almost as bad as Blackberry Torch's pinch-to-zoom. HAHAHA
- Photos seem more saturated than when it was running 1.6. Even affects photos when being used as 'Picture Frame' widget.
- Aside from the saturation of pictures though, the screen display overall is impressive. Quality has improved, sharpness has improved, the HD-feel is there for the home screens. I could even say that it is comparable to the iPhone 4, and better than the Galaxy S display. Theres room for improvements though... better font for icon titles, increase sharpness, less colour overflow.

Amdathlonuk said:
However, I do believe if you change to Gmail from Googlemaill, any apps you bought with your Googlemail account are NOT carried over.
Hence you have to purchase again, this is why I haven't made the switch yet, until that issue is resolved I will be staying as Googlemail.
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I can confirm that this ISN'T the case and all my apps carried over perfectly

fards said:
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Fards, Does this give access to missing market apps? I guess I need to be root'd to do this?
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Meltus said:
I can confirm that this ISN'T the case and all my apps carried over perfectly
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Excellent!......... *goes and finds gmail conversion*

Fazziebear said:
Fards, Does this give access to missing market apps? I guess I need to be root'd to do this?
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it did for me, but others claim it doesnt work..
I already signed in with a gmail account and found apps were missing, so I read up on it and several people said to clear the dalvik cache, so I did and the apps came back..
yeah you need root, the universal one click root thing is so easy to do and undo that its fairly painfree...