***Update 3*** 09th August 2011
ALK have restored the CP8 download. Link here - thanks to Antus.
***Update 2*** 06th June 2011
It would seem with the introduction of CoPilot 9, a number of changes have occurred to their web site. As such, the old free APK update for CP8 has been removed from their system and can no longer be downloaded. It's still legit to own as it requires activation, so if someone could host the file contact me and I'll add the link, otherwise, this thread is effectively invalid. Sadly I no longer have the APK in question, because I just invested in CP9.
***Update*** 15th August 2010
This isn't specifically for the HD2. In fact this works for any device! WinMo -> Android OR Android -> WinMo.
Since those geniuses Coutlla/Dan fixed GPS for the HD2 Android, I thought for those of you who have purchased Co-Pilot and wish to transfer it over to Android, I'd make a small guide.
Requirements:
- A *LEGAL* copy of CoPilot 8 for Windows Mobile and the license key
- The latest version of CoPilot 8 for Android (works in Froyo now): LINK RESTORED
I bought it about 8 months ago for my HD2, for Windows Mobile 6.5. Great piece of software. I contacted ALK to ask if I could transfer between OS's and they said no, it wouldn't work! It also clearly states on their web site that transfers don't work: LINK RESTORED
So being stubborn, I thought I'd take my own license from WinMo and deactivate it, stick it into Android and needless to say - it works and I have a fully legal copy of CoPilot 8 running on my Android Froyo device. Those cheeky beggers at ALK!!!
So how to get it working:
Make sure you still have CoPilot installed under Windows Mobile and activated;
Launch CoPilot. Go to the Menu|Settings|Licensing (NOTE: If you can't see this, find "More Settings" and select that first to show Licensing);
Select your Map Region from the list (Mine was UK and Ireland), then press "Deactivate";
CoPilot will now shut down;
Boot into Android and using an installer, install the APK file which is in the requirements section at the top of the page or here (LINK RESTORED);
Open CoPilot from the Menu and it will ask for your license info. Enter this as you did when you first bought CoPilot (usually a username and password);
Bada Bing. That should be it, all working!
Just to clarify one further time, this is only for legally purchased licenses. No questions about dodgy software please. Thank you.
Very interesting, thanks !
How about Map data ? where do u put it on the card ?
myjupiler said:
Very interesting, thanks !
How about Map data ? where do u put it on the card ?
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It should be on the root of your SD Card in a folder "CoPilot".
I wonder if the text to speech feature will also work.... using the current key.
Thanks, thought that would work, and now I know it will! I'll be setting it up as well.
That was the only reason I would need to go back to WM. I use CP8 all the time!
Hero!
busterdan said:
I wonder if the text to speech feature will also work.... using the current key.
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It has TTS built in!!! Don't even need to buy it! My traffic key worked also!
noellenchris said:
Thanks, thought that would work, and now I know it will! I'll be setting it up as well.
That was the only reason I would need to go back to WM. I use CP8 all the time!
Hero!
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Haha, my motivation for switching was the same. It's better in Android IMO. For example you use the Android keyboard so it's qwerty and accepts voice input. It also has controllable volume over bluetooth For me I always listen to Music via bluetooth and in WinMo there was no control over individual volumes. If I had the volume at a normal level for music, the speech was far too loud. Now it's all controllable
jonboyuk said:
Haha, my motivation for switching was the same. It's better in Android IMO. For example you use the Android keyboard so it's qwerty and accepts voice input. It also has controllable volume over bluetooth For me I always listen to Music via bluetooth and in WinMo there was no control over individual volumes. If I had the volume at a normal level for music, the speech was far too loud. Now it's all controllable
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Man I hated that Copilot non qwerty! Wow, speech too! Neat, just need to download the cp8 app for android now...
@OP (and everyone else)
Would anyone mind if I wrote this up on the front page, as it's great news. Anyone foresee any issues if this becomes 'publicised'? If so, I will hold off.
mic_888 said:
@OP (and everyone else)
Would anyone mind if I wrote this up on the front page, as it's great news. Anyone foresee any issues if this becomes 'publicised'? If so, I will hold off.
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My only concern would be that Copilot ALK may not want us to transfer. But I do think that other HD2 owners or anyone coming from WM should be, and would be, happy to transfer/use CP8 that they paid for on Android.
So I guess ...go for it. I'm switching ASAP just in case...hehe.
Ok, cool thanks. Just thought I'd quickly check - I had the same thoughts as you (noellenchris). I've written up a short article on this, so it should get published sometime tonight/tomorrow (GMT).
If there any strong objections let me know
All working, the only thing I should have done was deactivate Premium Live Services first in WM.... before the UK/IRELAND maps.... not really a big problem as the live services are a waste of time anyway.
To be honest, comparing Copilot to the free Google Navigation app I think Copilot will be dead and buried within a year.
what about tomtom navigator?
deactivation in android?
jonboyuk said:
Since those geniuses Coutlla/Dan fixed GPS for the HD2 Android, I thought for those of you who have purchased Co-Pilot and wish to transfer it over to Android, I'd make a small guide.
Requirements:
- A *LEGAL* copy of CoPilot 8 for Windows Mobile and the license key
- The latest version of CoPilot 8 for Android (works in Froyo now) Link to ALK Web Site
I bought it about 8 months ago for my HD2, for Windows Mobile 6.5. Great piece of software. I contacted ALK to ask if I could transfer between OS's and they said no, it wouldn't work! It also clearly states on their web site that transfers don't work:
Link
So being stubborn, I thought I'd take my own license from WinMo and deactivate it, stick it into Android and needless to say - it works and I have a fully legal copy of CoPilot 8 running on my Android Froyo device. Those cheeky beggers at ALK!!!
So how to get it working:
Make sure you still have CoPilot installed under Windows Mobile and activated;
Launch CoPilot. Go to the Menu|Settings|Licensing (NOTE: If you can't see this, find "More Settings" and select that first to show Licensing);
Select your Map Region from the list (Mine was UK and Ireland), then press "Deactivate";
CoPilot will now shut down;
Boot into Android and using an installer, install the APK file which is in the requirements section at the top of the page or here;
Open CoPilot from the Menu and it will ask for your license info. Enter this as you did when you first bought CoPilot (usually a username and password);
Bada Bing. That should be it, all working!
Just to clarify one further time, this is only for legally purchased licenses. No questions about dodgy software please. Thank you.
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I have done this before to transfer between winmo devices and it works a treat. Do you know if you can do the reverse of this and deactivate it in Android and then reactivate it back in winmo? Be useful to know before I get locked in to android.
mic_888 said:
Ok, cool thanks. Just thought I'd quickly check - I had the same thoughts as you (noellenchris). I've written up a short article on this, so it should get published sometime tonight/tomorrow (GMT).
If there any strong objections let me know
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Quite frankly - I'm flattered, and yes of course you can post it.
chrisnash said:
I have done this before to transfer between winmo devices and it works a treat. Do you know if you can do the reverse of this and deactivate it in Android and then reactivate it back in winmo? Be useful to know before I get locked in to android.
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Yes it is 100% reversible. ALK can't be bothered with all the enquires I think and I truly believe it's a good way for them to make a quick extra money! As a user who paid for it once, I refuse to pay again. Take Photoshop for example, if you buy it for a mac, you can use the same license on a PC and vice versa.
Enjoy!
jasmo1984 said:
what about tomtom navigator?
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AFAIK, there is no TomTom for Android. Quite frankly they are so behind with their mobile software, it's just not worth using anyway.
Hope ALK is planning on integrating the contacts in CP8.... Other than that, it works great.
Anyone know if it will be possible to deactivate my WM version when I don't own my old windows phone any more?
Paradasos said:
Anyone know if it will be possible to deactivate my WM version when I don't own my old windows phone any more?
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Yes you can, but you have to contact them via email or their web site. Just explain and ask them to release your license. I've done it on numerous occasions.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App & HD2
Related
IS there much difference in performance running 5.2 instead of 5.1 on the Universal?
Is there any difference at all?
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
Don't know if i may post it here. but check this out:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8475711/TomTom_Navigator_update_V.5.21_cracked.rar.html
excellent stuff, been waiting for this, but i cant get it to work, where do i place the cracked exe???
stf06 said:
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
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Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
tyl said:
Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
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Just tried the cracked one, and I can't see a difference against 5.1. The screen still draws visibly slowly and the UI is still as limiting and unsophisticated as ever.
I can't see any benefit in upgrading if TT is working already for you.
Looks like TomTom will be waiting a while longer to get my upgrade fee. I'm happy to upgrade legitimately from my legitimate v3, but I don't consider it to be a viable option at the moment. TomTom seem to have lost their way on PocketPC software since they are apparently unifying the software to match their TomTomGO platform. Sadly that leaves those of us with sophisticated multi-purpose devices wondering why we can't have the flexibility of version 3, in which we could keep the Windows Taskbar on the screen and actually use the damn operating system at the same time!
Not good, TomTom. Not good at all. :evil:
Thanks SiliconS.
You have no choice but to wait for the upgrade as I can't find any link to do this on their web site. Does anyone know of any other way of upgrading?
I have version 3 & I refuse to buy version 5 other than through an upgrade.
Mike
I have paid for the upgrade, but the cracked version saves having to mess around with their annoying registration system.
I find the UI clean and elegant. It allows you to quickly do what you need, without fuss. It also makes switching from other TomTom's (Go etc) easy. I find version 5 far better than 3. The maps are much improved too and include all of Europe. Easily worth the upgrade price.
(The screen update is slow in landscape mode, but fine in Portrait.)
i got this (on the wizard) and i still get the same backlight turning off when running it problem. and the hex edit doesnt work with this exe (well not the same values anyway)
thefunkygibbon, you need to hex edit the exe and find the 4 instances of backlight and change them to bbcklight.
Works great on wm5.
hack done
Tomtom 5.2 with hexa change
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
not working correctly
this works for me but cant get any voices to work (i put them on the storgae card from original disk)
it will not find my gps either any ideas
clive
sparkyxda said:
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
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Yea, those bozos at TomTom excelled themselves again, didn't they?
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6309013&postcount=9
Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
In tomtom V5.21 better bluetooth management and u can install directly by activesync with WM2005. For the voices you must to install with the original disk and then you can choise the voices otherwise copy tomtom directory contain the voices in "my documents"
dazza12 said:
Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
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Precisely. Activesync install was the one obvious thing they had to fix, and they cocked it up. Funny how every other WM5 developer in the world seems to manage it.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
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Precisely. Broken landscape mode. No support for soft buttons. So what's this magical support for WM5? Everything works the same (or doesn't) as in 5.1.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
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Clealry, TomTom employees are a complete bozos, and their management couldn't give a sh*t because they've got your money. No wonder people are so keen to rip them off.
kojiro said:
u can install directly by activesync with WM2005.
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Yes, but the morons f*cked up the code so it won't install to the Storage Card. One CAB doesn't ask, the 2nd CAB asks but ignores your answer. So unless you move everything by hand with File Explorer, that's 3MB of your precious main memory wasted. Don't forget it's your money that's paying them to write that crap.
tomtom xda exec
i cant get voices to work or my bt gps helpppppppppppp ,ripping my hair out ive tried all the socalled fixes but no goooood any help would be really great thx
Hi
Having tried TomTom 7, Copilot and the "try before buy" Navigon; I found all to be wanting in some way. I have not tried: Garmin XT is fixed to a SD card - I don't want to swop cards; IGO 8 looks good but seems to require lots of fixes.
Is there a GPS application (not google or similar online app) that just works from the box or cab ?
I like the google app but I don't like the high data rates which could get expensive when I'm roaming.
I just want a GPS app that has its own maps on my SD card (16 gbyte card so loads of space available). Does this really exist ?
When I check the official GPS provider sites (e.g., TomTom and Copilot) then they say their product is not compatible with the HTC HD - I guess that explains all the various hoops people have to jump through to get an app working.
I suspect I have to wait until spring next year for the app companies to provide a working HD compatible version ? Or, does anyone know better ??
Thanks & holiday greetings to all, Dave.
You can't compare Google Maps with a navigation solution like TomTom, IGo or Navigon. Google Maps is just showing the area around your current position, whereas the other programs can navigate you through the country.
As far as I know TomTom works just without any work, all others need to be configurated. How to do that is mentioned in the various threads here, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.
johnpatcher said:
the other programs can navigate you through the country.
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Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
Well I can use google to navigate as it has a "show directions" option. I know it is not as sophisticated as the other GPS apps.
My problem with google is it needs a data link which gets expensive when I'm out of my home country (hence need often a GPS) because I have to make a gprs link to have google working.
TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
Thanks anyway for answering.
bugmeyes said:
Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
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I never heard Google Maps talking to me something like "in 400 metres turn left". Maybe I missed something .
Cheesy Dave said:
TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
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Then you will have to try get IGo8 or Navigon working.
Here is a new app - anyone use this successfully on the HD ?
http://directions.ltd.uk/pda-navigation/pocket-navigator-8-europe
Does CoPilot work on the HD?
I've got Version 6 currently on my XDA Orbit & was thinking of upgrading
Garmin Mobile XT works great on my HD
Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
I also gave Garmin XT a try.
One problem though, up until now, i am feeling that there is Lag or the cpu is not following up too fast to show changes, so if i am making a turn in a roundabout, you can see a strange thing happen on the screen.
davast said:
Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
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Thanks davast. I actually got a copy of CoPilot which was sold to me as CoPilot7 for windows mobile. It turned out to be the specific version for the HTC Diamond.
I think I will wait for the new version and double check this time that the supplier knows what they are doing.
Regards, D.
What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
I'm going to try a new one when I get a minute, beta atm but works on my hacked Hermes to wm6.1 and is nice
Gulioth said:
What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
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Hi Gulioth, I received version 7 "for the HTC Diamond" which will only load to the internal storage of the Diamond - hence, I returned it as this would not work on the HD.
I don't know the specific current version other than "7". If you have CoPilot Central then you should be able to find it. Unfortunately with the Diamond version there also is no copy of the CoPilot Central.
I have returned the Diamond version and I'm sitting waiting for someone (PLEASE !!) to make a legally correct version work.
If you check here: http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/compatibility.asp you can see that ALK says the HD is not yet compatible.
I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
Thanks - that's a new one to me - I will investigate "on course navigation"
Ciao, Dave
Route 66 Version 7 works sweeet for me
audscott said:
I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
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Hmmm - this seems to be only USA & Canada according to their site:
Map Coverage USA and Canada.
The latest maps and up-to-date points of interest for United States. Full road coverage with over 10 443 000 kilometers of updated roads, and over 12.3 millions points of interest. Includes maps of Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico.
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/ocn8_intro.aspx
I did not specify in my original question that I'm based in Europe.
I'm looking for a legally correct GPS application that works "out-of-the box" or direct from the cab without having to tweak xml files or anything else and which is recognised by the software provider as compatible and acceptable. TomTom and CoPilot do not yet list the HD as a compatible device. I also don't want a software that is linked to one micro SD card (like Garmin XT).
I believe that CoPilot will be the right choice when it is HD compatible. I like also TomTom but it seems so difficult to make it work - there are many threads here about the tricks needed to make maps work. I do have TomTom running but only with the sample map. Trying to get TomTom home to accept the HD and legally download new Maps does not seem legally correct now - maybe next year ...
Lol-x said:
Route 66 Version 7 works sweeet for me
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Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
Cheesy Dave said:
Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
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WOW - this seems to be a first, a GPS app that claims the HTC HD is compatible:
http://www.66.com/route66/index.php?cid=UK&act=1&prodid=5723
Maybe someone has already posted this, but the T-Mobile MDA Compact V update to Windows Mobile 6.5 is available on the UK website:
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=home&cat=SOFTWAREDOWNLOADS&tab=1
Let me know how you get on, and then I may try it myself!
Thanks for the update! Been checking almost every day, but forgot today...
I sent mine off for repairs a few weeks back and it came back with 6.5 on it. Dumped the ROM and posted it on here in the Topaz ROMS section.
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581070
BTW it's way better than the 6.1 stock rom but not as good IMO as the cooked rom I'm using (Dutty's HG1)http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579076
Yes it pretty much still sucks. Better Home Screen please T-Mobile? Maybe throw some Sense UI type widgets in there??
A list of pros and cons (specific to this phone) would be useful. I read of one con: the standard WiFi connection has gone. Has anyone found improvements in Bluetooth connectivity/functionality?
Does anyone know if it has CoPilot 7 preinstalled (like the T-mobile 6.1 ROM)?
My wife had a real problem getting CoPilot working when she got the Compact V. The 18 month freebie ran out after 1 month and, in the end, T-mobile just sent her an unlimited license key.
Because she had this much hassle to get CP7 working, I've not wanted to put another ROM on for her, which would mean she loses it. [I'm not sure whether everything she'll need to reinstall CP7 is on the storage card (which she can then use her license key with) or whether there are key files that are only present in the T-mo ROM.]
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks Mike. Been checking every flippin day for this.
mpathan said:
Thanks Mike. Been checking every flippin day for this.
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If you use Firefox, install the 'Update Scanner' add-on. This monitors web pages for changes. It is also good for snapping up returned theatre tickets!
eepyaich said:
Does anyone know if it has CoPilot 7 preinstalled (like the T-mobile 6.1 ROM)?
My wife had a real problem getting CoPilot working when she got the Compact V. The 18 month freebie ran out after 1 month and, in the end, T-mobile just sent her an unlimited license key.
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I've just rung 150 with the same question and had no sensible reply back [it did include the usual 'nothing to do with us' comment, even though T-Mob are who 'sold' us all Co-Pilot so it is very much to do with them]. I have been promised a call back in 20 minutes...
eepyaich said:
Does anyone know if it has CoPilot 7 preinstalled (like the T-mobile 6.1 ROM)? Anyone any ideas?
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I have an idea that CoPilot is associated with the SDcard. I upgraded my SD-card from the standard 2GB to 8GB. I copied CoPilot across, but it would not work. I had to first unregister it from the old SDcard and reregister on the new SDcard.
Mike Austin said:
I have an idea that CoPilot is associated with the SDcard. I upgraded my SD-card from the standard 2GB to 8GB. I copied CoPilot across, but it would not work. I had to first unregister it from the old SDcard and reregister on the new SDcard.
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I did just copy the files over to a 16gb card and it worked. This was before I had the correct license installed. But then that is just a text file isn't it, so can be readily copied around between cards. The programme itself was pre-installed on the handset. What we were not given was a retail sd card version of the programme - the card didn't have the 2577 folder that a retail version would have included, so we are not in a position to reinstall.
Yes this does have CoPilot 7 preinstalled on it. The main program is built into the ROM. You will also need to keep the SD Card files as they are still necessary.
*BEFORE* you upgrade, you first have to deactivate your CoPilot key in the CoPilot 7 Licensing screen. This will give you a deactivation code.
You then go to the ALK deactivation website on your computer (just do a search) and enter the product key and new code.
Then you can flash the 6.5 ROM and reactivate your CoPilot 18-month license.
Forget to do this and you'll have to deal with ALK directly and get them to deactivate it after the fact.
Thanks very much for confirming this. Now of course my wife is asking what else is actually better about the 6.5 ROM. Although I jumped at the chance to upgrade my TP2 when the new ROM came out, I must admit I'm struggling a bit to tell her what the killer features of the new ROM may be!
- Marketplace, well that's available in 6.1 now anyway.
- Slightly more touch friendly, but nothing too groundbreaking.
- Weather wallpaper - not sure if this is even in the T-Mobile ROM as they managed to mangle the TouchFlo clock in the stock 6.1 ROM.
- ???
Anyone have any thoughts on what might persuade my "if it ain't broke, don't fiddle with it" wife to upgrade?
phkrh said:
What we were not given was a retail sd card version of the programme - the card didn't have the 2577 folder that a retail version would have included, so we are not in a position to reinstall.
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FWIW - I seem to recall that after a hard reset, the first boot seemed to take a long time and I got the impression this was because CoPilot was installing itself. I also found a Copilot*.cab file (8Mb or so in size) in the \Windows directory, so I wonder whether this is basically the same as would be present in the 2577 folder.
Of course, I haven't actually tried using this to install on a clean ROM...
Agree that one does, of course, need the SD card as this has all the map data, etc.
Just wanted to say that I was unable to deactivate my copy of CoPilot 7 Live on my Compact V, the option just wasn't there on the licensing page. I went ahead and upgraded my rom anyway and am now unable to use CoPilot, so for anyone else wanting to upgrade, if you can't deactivate then CoPilot will not work when you upgrade.
Hopefully ALK will sort this for me.
I had this problem after resetting my Compact V (6.1, not tried 6.5 yet). I still had the original product key/licence code in my IE url history. After relaunching this page I selected the 'free trial' option and it worked!
I have upgraded the OS, but the previous product key that gave me full European cover didn't work. I reinstalled Copilot using the cab file - as metioned above - and that allowed me to start the registration process again, as when I first got the phone. This opened up Internet Explorer, and offered a 18-month evaluation for £0 but at the end of the process it is only UK/IE
Anyone got it back up to full EU?
ps I too didn't have any deactivate options originally, though I do now...
New query - On the web I see lots of screen grabs and videos of Diamond 2s with 6.5 and home screens featuring animated weather, more colourful icons along the scroll bar, etc. Have T-Mobile provided an older version of HTC Sense in this ROM [2.1 instead of 2.5]?
Yes it is older. Not sure which Sense UI is used, I got rid of T-Mobile 6.5 once I installed it (hated it personally) and went the Cooked way....
Just a warning for anybody trying to buy CoPilot offline-GPS: I was not able to activate my license (worked fine on my previous HTC Hero). Support says:
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Unfortunately Copilot is not supported Android 2.1 at this time.
If you have any further questions, or feel that this incident has not been resolved to your satisfaction, please do not hesitate to bring this to our attention.
Regards,
CoPilot Technical Support
http://support.alk.com
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I really liked copilot on my Hero, and I'm hoping they'll fix this issue asap.
google navigation is way better why do u need co-pilot anymore?
lightforce said:
google navigation is way better why do u need co-pilot anymore?
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Offline? For one, there is no prepaid data in the US and I'm not signing a contract when visiting
Volker1 said:
Offline? For one, there is no prepaid data in the US and I'm not signing a contract when visiting
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I understand that you want your NAV maps locally on you memory card. I feel the same way and I hope CoPilot is 2.1 compatible soon.
You can get unlimited data from T-Mobile without a contract. Their "Even More Plus Plan" has unlimited data and texting starting at $59. per month. Of course if you are just there for a week it isn't really worth it.
After a fruitless wait for any help from the support, I debugged the problem further. I had already maps downloaded from a previous installation. Deleting (or renaming) the /sdcard/copilot directory let me reinstall copilot. Its now working fine.
even deleting / renaming the /sdcard/copilot directory, i'm getting invalid library - copilots code cannot be loaded by the system.
It may not be supported on the N1 yet but Copilot most definitely does (or can) work. Copilot Live 8 has worked on my N1 since the day I received the phone. I did not do anything special, just put in my card from my G1 (with maps already) and then entered my order # the first time I kicked up the app.
It has worked for me ever since, no problems. Whether google navigation is better than copilot is also really a matter of opinion. I prefer copilot personally.
sworkan said:
even deleting / renaming the /sdcard/copilot directory, i'm getting invalid library - copilots code cannot be loaded by the system.
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Getting this same error as well :'( Worked great on the G1
JanetPanic said:
It may not be supported on the N1 yet but Copilot most definitely does (or can) work. Copilot Live 8 has worked on my N1 since the day I received the phone. I did not do anything special, just put in my card from my G1 (with maps already) and then entered my order # the first time I kicked up the app.
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Went through these same steps, with no luck
invalid library probably has nothing to do with the maps. it would involve the installation of the ndk component of the application. Honestly I would expect it not to work, but it does for me. No idea why.
I have not unlocked the phone yet... have either of you?
CoPilot work on both 2.1 and the N1, I have been using it since day 1. If a few people are having problems with it ok but you should change the thread title as its misleading and untrue.
lightforce said:
google navigation is way better why do u need co-pilot anymore?
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T-mobile 3g is not available everywhere...A program like Copilot will allow you to use gps without any internet.
There's a video of N1 running coPilot on youtube.
youtube.com/watch?v=gFJKWRcQ51Y
Hmm I have installed it successfully and downloaded my maps, but it does not detect my GPS (yes it is activated in phone settings).
In fact it seems to detect it, but does not get any signal (the GPS icon does not appears in the notification bar, like when I'm using Maps)
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Works perfectly on my N1.. biggest issue I had was transferring the licence from Windows Mobile to Android, which CoPilot said was possible but didn't say how.
Eventually I found a downloadable installer, installed that and copied the maps to my SD card and it activated and worked fine.
Works fine for me... the title of this thread should be changed as its an untrue statement.
CoPilot v8 problem solved!
It seems my problem was that I had an extra map license. After the support manually de-activated the extra map license on my previous phone, I could now activate it again on the N1.
Note that I followed the FAQ and deactivated my copilot license on my old phone:
Q. I'm going to buy another device in a month's time, can I move CoPilot Live 8 to another device?
A. You can move your CoPilot Live v8 license from a Windows Mobile or Android smartphone to another Windows Mobile or Android Smartphone. Simply deactivate your license by selecting Menu > Settings > Licensing. You can then re-install CoPilot Live on the different phone. Please note you cannot move a CoPilot Live v8 license from or to an iPhone.
If you only have the CoPilot license (no extra maps) then this will suffice to move to a new phone.
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It seems my problem was that I had an extra map license. After the support manually de-activated the extra map license on my previous phone, I could now activate it again on the N1.
Note that I followed the FAQ and deactivated my copilot license on my old phone:
Q. I'm going to buy another device in a month's time, can I move CoPilot Live 8 to another device?
A. You can move your CoPilot Live v8 license from a Windows Mobile or Android smartphone to another Windows Mobile or Android Smartphone. Simply deactivate your license by selecting Menu > Settings > Licensing. You can then re-install CoPilot Live on the different phone. Please note you cannot move a CoPilot Live v8 license from or to an iPhone.
If you only have the CoPilot license (no extra maps) then this will suffice to move to a new phone.
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Did you move it from Windows Mobile to Android though? It seemed to be a pain to do this, because of the lack of help from CoPilot.
Im confused about what he says on the description on the app...Something about not being able to use for 10 days after payment? Whats all that about?
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Did you move it from Windows Mobile to Android though?
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No I moved from HTC Hero to the Nexus One. At least in principle you don't need any help from support, just deactivate your license on the old phone and re-activate on the new phone. All you need is internet access and the serial number.
I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
Oh.....ok....
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I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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what an insightful post, you're in an XDA forum but you're too lazy to "hack" your phone
windows phone 7 is still a baby compared to android and iOS. the partnership with nokia means the ovi store is merging with the marketplace, so this should help, plus the changes in free submissions (allowing 99 free submissions i think) will also help.
its also worth remembering that windows phone 7 on a HD2 is also not official, so i dont see why you would have an issue with unofficial registry hacks!
personally the limitation for me is apps. having used android, i got into the habbit of downloading apps out of bordem, but that is more limited on wp7. i also think the pricing for some of the apps and gams is a little high compared with other platforms. but these often change with time.
i quite like zune in comparison with windows mobile device centre, but i do agree it has some similaritys with itunes.
dont use it if u dont like it
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Exactly,
Don't buy it if you're not going to eat it
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Btw, Your title is just, with all respect, stupid.
Wp7 on hd2 and 1gb of cab file storage
Thanks to all the guys that were involved in developing wp7 for the Hd2. What do you think if Microsoft allowed 1gb of cab file storage on the wp7 platform of the costumers choosing, and they could add or remove files as they please in that 1gb of space?
That's a shame. Put a little time in and get alot out!! You really are missing out.
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I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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Wowwww.!!!! This one of the most insightful post !!!!!
Ok m8.... You are probably the XDA guy that ask for help to a problem ...nad the solution is 3-4 posts above !!!!!
Ok.. no prob.... its an alternative to a lot of guys arround here ... and they are lucky to be XDA members...
colossus
I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
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I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
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I'm totally with you - the Zune pass got me. I love being able to tag something with Shazam and then have the song or album in a few minutes from the Marketplace.
I have random issues with sound from my headphones, and having to flip to video mode to get the camera to focus kinda bites at times, but those are minor issues compared to all the reboots, hangs, freezes I had with even the stock 6.x rom -
WP7 is great, so great that I almost daily want to go get a real HD7 so I have full hardware functionality.
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The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
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Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
I just need gps with maps on the device. is this suppose to be on the ovi store? when is that coming?
I too am using dual boot to wp7 and android and enjoying how they compliment each other with both having there strong points that makes up for their individual short comings.
As the wp7 build matures it will only get better. The wp7 takes about 15 seconds to load and the sd android build that I have takes less than 3mins so I can live with switching back and forth.
I really like netflix, the call quality, and email on wp7. Games, gps, maps, flash support, internet browsing, video, and camera I prefer the android build I use.
For me the switching between the two OSs works well.
by definition it is an alternative.
I suppoes you mean, isnt a "good" alternative
My question to you is alternative to what? an iphone? android? pen and paper? carrier Pigeons?
and even then, "good" is subjective, carrier pigeons and pen and paper have many uses that my phone wouldnt be "good" alternative for, for instance i couldnt feed my phone bread in the park, or let me kid run after it flapping like a bird scaring them away, and coming back to IT, i find its completely fine, works, works well, its a perfect "alternative" for me
Huge sweeping statments are a bit daft, fair doos, its not your cup of tea, but i dont think we have to hear about it, after all i couldnt care less what your opinion is because i have my own as do you and thats your right. but im not going to start a thread telling all about my opinion, especially since all your opinions of what are bad are in the public domain, you would have known about them before you even installed it, so its not even a constructive debate or indeed a question,
infact what is the point? to regurgitate the same information thats already been around the block several times?
dgabriel said:
Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
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I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
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I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
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I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
Gabe3 said:
I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/copilot-live-navigation-not-coming-to-windows-phone-7
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/tomtom-disinterested-in-windows-phone-7-too