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Jasjar/Universal: Too many bugs ??

I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?

Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!

personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.

Tekflow said:
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?

Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?

mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.

Carnivor said:
no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.

sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)

No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en

SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.

hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues

louisk said:
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.

DaleReeck said:
mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike

@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.

I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers

Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Pm Sent

Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers

You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]

Help please. New xda mini s and tomtom.

I'm a bit confused here. I have the new xda mini s and tomtom 5 which works fine on my mitac and xda 2. I tried installing on the mini s and it crashes.
My question is simple. Is it a pda or a smartphone. There are version of tomtom for pda and smartphone, but the tomtom site seems to call it a smartphone because of the os. I was more than happy with ppc 2003 and wish it was on the mini s as I don't like the lack of backup in activesync. A major oversight in my opinion. Other than that, I really like the mini s and find it much more usable as a phone than either of my previous xda's.
Any help is appreciated in advance.

It's a PDA and you want TomTom Navigator and NOT TomTom Mobile.

You may want to do a search on tomtom and WM5 in the forum; i remember seeing a few posts on this.

tom tom 5.2
if you do get tom tom 5 you must make sure that you upgrade to version 5.2 however it will not sync with the mini s, so you must do it externally i.e. with a card reader and it will work fine. Hope that this helps. :lol:

Tried all that, now what.
Thanks again for the replies.
I have got to various stages in making it work, the best being to get to the select voice stage whereupon it hangs and does nothing. Soft reset time again. I have read that the voice is in the wrong folder, but where exactly is it suppossed to be. It works if I test it before selecting it. It only hangs when I actually select the voice. I have tried using a reg editor to remove everything, but there is nothing in the registry referring to tomtom when I remove it using the remove programs feature. Several attempts have made no difference.
Is 5.21 the official tomtom patch which is supposed to properly support windows mobile 5 and the xda mini s. In the list of compatible devices there is no mention of the mini s, but the mda vario is there. Is this different somehow?.
I have tried this on my mitac and xda2, but work fine without problems. Its only the mini s which won't have it. Everyone I know also has no problem with PPC and the 5.21 update, only problem being with anyone having a mini s. Have we gone backwards by trying to go forwards.
Other than that, I really like the phone and think it would be the best yet if everything was properly supported. Faster would be nice, but its not bad now I've followed the advice on here and stopped all the crap from loading. As always, thanks in advance for any help.

I have exactly the same problem as you ripz69.
So close to ditching the a to z, but then so far!
Hope someone can help us get it sorted.

5.21 works fine on mine, but the setup.exe doesn't. Had to manually run the four cab files to get it installed.

tomtom 5.21 and mini s
I did that. Installed the cabs manually and it locked up. Installed from the pc and it locked up. Although I haven't done a hard reset, I have scoured the registry and there is nothing in there relating to tomtom after removing it prior to trying another method. Maybe its just mine, but I doubt it.
It can't be just me as my efforts over the last few days have revealed it to be a common problem despite the new release from tomtom supposedly supporting windows mobile 5. Its not the only program to have problems. I have also used a later version of vbar (0.40 instead of 0.23) which works better, and my favoured batmemtime has been replaced with another (less colourfull) version of something which does almost the same thing. Things are much better now except for tomtom.
I have had this thing about a week now and have done a number of hard resets to try different configurations after reading the threads on this site regarding the best ways of making it run at a decent speed. This was easily done before the removal of the backup and restore facility from activesync as it was easy enough to get it back to the state of play before messing with it. I don't understand the reasoning behind the removal of this facility, and know of no other program that allows you to restore the thing to a working state (as reliably as a/sync) without a full re-installation of stuff.
As much as I like it, I see times ahead when I sit here frustrated at yet another crash. I can only hope that Microsoft see the mistake of omitting the restore facility from a/sync and replace it in a future release. I have to say that my confidence in the robustness of windows mobile 5 in the mini s is less than it was in my xda2 or even the 1, mainly because of the a/sync issue.
At the risk of repeating myself yet again, I only wish Psion had entered the pocket pc market as several years with a mine were virtually trouble free. Will it even be the case with Microsoft.
Somehow, I doubt it.
TIA

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ripz69 said:
Thanks again for the replies.
I have got to various stages in making it work, the best being to get to the select voice stage whereupon it hangs and does nothing. .
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i have just come across the same problem, anyone found a fix to this?
cheers

Copy the "TomTom" folder that contains Munich.bin and data.chk (probably several other files as well) from your storage card to the "My Documents folder on the XDA.
This will fix the hanging at voice selection problem.
Make sure you copy not cut the folder though.

This continues to be a big headache for WM5 users
You could try this step by step guide on 4WinMobile

see if this helps, it got 2 people going.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39074

one things need notice, make sure the path in currentmap.dat is same as your map location in your sd. you can use ultraedit-32 check the currentmap.dat and change the map path.

Success
Thanks to all the suggestions, its now working. I seem to have sussed everything including theb bluetooth gps problem. It starts the bluetooth driver when I start tomtom and stops it when I exit. Perfect.
I had to do the reg thing and copy the tomtom folder as seggested, but I'm just glad to see it work. Thanks to all who helped with the brains. I'm so glad I found this place (as is my mate who now has his working too, thanks to what I have learned here).
Now if only Microsoft will give us a proper backup and restore feature for Windows mobile 5. That would be the icing on the cake.
Cheers all.

Help...Pocket Mechanic v2.xx NOT working..

Hi all. Has anyone with a T-Mobile Ameo got Pocket Mechanic working on their device?
It's just that I have downloaded several demo versions (recent ones from Anton's website) and earlier 2.xx versions, and whilst they all install and display fine, I never have the buttons visible at the bottom of the screen to actually activate any of the modules.
It's a right royal pain. I just want to test the defrag options within it, to see if it is worth my while.
Anyone experience this? If not, I got me problem.
Any know of any other freeware or if need be commercial app that will allow me to safely defrag my SD card and Micro drive?
Any help appreciated.

Pocket Mechanic Pro...Incompatible with HTC WM5?
Handango.com reports that there are no WM5 HTC devices compatible with Pocket Mechanic Pro.
Surely this is rubbish. Anyone care to enlighten me/all of us?
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro... Mechanic&R=92570&productId=92570#compatible1

I use version 2.32.175 without any issues

Doodle said:
I use version 2.32.175 without any issues
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Well I'm glad to hear that. Thanks for your reply. I noticed you have a HTC X7500, just wondering if this a ROM issue with T-Mobile Ameo or just my device now.
Anyone got this up and running on an Ameo and or Dopod U1000?

Not Working on Ameo....
I'm really stumped on this one....I need help...please!!??!! AAaarrrgg.
OK now I got that out of my system.
Can someone with an Ameo either please test out the evaluation copy (any version from 2.3xx upwards) please to see if they get the same problem or wether it's my device.
Apparently it works without issue on the X7500, but on my Ameo it looks perfect, BUT....the execution buttons at the bottom of the screen are not visible in all Modules except the 'Free RAM' module, where it is clearly visible and working as should.
I have tried 4 different versions all with the same problem. I'm stumped!!
I really need this as I'm constantly transferring large files to and from the MicroDrive and Defragging is something I have learnt is necessary on the PC, so I figured it must equally be important on the PPC with such a large HDD/MicroDrive.
Anyway here are some snapshots, 1 with the execution button (the only one) and 2 without (including all remaining modules). I have tried another app which can do Defragging, but was not at all impressed with it.
Anyway thanks in advance for any help or positive input.

works perfectly on my ameo.. Cache set to 4mb.. ameo seems much quicker. Latest version of the developers site.
Maybe try it without WA3 running? What else have you got running that could affect it?
FWIW defragging the microdrive seems to take an age. I think it was going to take 8 hours...

Thanks for your help.
fards said:
works perfectly on my ameo.. Cache set to 4mb.. ameo seems much quicker. Latest version of the developers site.
Maybe try it without WA3 running? What else have you got running that could affect it?
FWIW defragging the microdrive seems to take an age. I think it was going to take 8 hours...
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Thanks for the quick reply fards. I already tried it without WA3 but no change there. The only other app I don't trust at the mo is Spb Phonesuite. I'll try that. Thanks for the tip...my mind has gone blank!!

Thanks for your help.
fards said:
works perfectly on my ameo.. Cache set to 4mb.. ameo seems much quicker. Latest version of the developers site.
Maybe try it without WA3 running? What else have you got running that could affect it?
FWIW defragging the microdrive seems to take an age. I think it was going to take 8 hours...
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Thanks for the quick reply fards. I already tried it without WA3 but no change there. The only other app I don't trust at the mo is Spb Phonesuite. I'll try that. Thanks for the tip...my mind has gone blank!!
Just tried that. It's not Spb Phonesuite.

Eureka!! Got it working..but still no graphical buttons!
Suppose the title said it all. I have had to navigate using the keyboards navigation keys and guess how many clicks downwards to the invisible buttons.
Pathetic I know, but at least I can use the application and it defragmenting after a scandisk as I type. Brill.

Yea, mine works on Htc x7500 with version 2.32.175. It could be your WA3 - What color Font is on your today screen. is it black? I have had some issues with pocket mechanic and wa2, I had to change the font color for it to show...Well that was before I removed WA2
Pocket mechanic's newer version with scandisk is a very good app. Each new release gets better and better. I have used the PM since the beta testing. (even listed in the credits)
Is wa3 really better? I really like the idea and functionality of WA, but it always caused issues with my devices...

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Yea, mine works on Htc x7500 with version 2.32.175. It could be your WA3 - What color Font is on your today screen. is it black? I have had some issues with pocket mechanic and wa2, I had to change the font color for it to show...Well that was before I removed WA2
Pocket mechanic's newer version with scandisk is a very good app. Each new release gets better and better. I have used the PM since the beta testing. (even listed in the credits)
Is wa3 really better? I really like the idea and functionality of WA, but it always caused issues with my devices...
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Hey eaglesteve.
No it's definately not WA3 as I tried it without WA but I will give the colour scheme thing a shot under the native O/S theme.
But somehow I don't think that will resolve it either. You see when I activate/execute a module (via keyboard) it takes me to another screen whereby I get to see the missing buttons which I can then click on. Weird!!
As for WA3 beta2....I love it and can't wait to buy the full product. I bought WA2 near the beginning of last year and loaded it up on at least 4 different WM devices that I went through in the last year. It's a must have for me. I hate the default look of WM and the latest incarnation comes with some much needed new features and is very well implemented. I def recommend it.
Pretty stable too for a beta!

Newest Pocket Mechanic bricked my O2 xda trion
Installed the latest version (2.43) this morning as it is stated as a "critical upgrade". Opened PM and elected to run ScanDisk on my storage card. App responded that it would reboot, open in "Safe Mode" and then proceed to scan my card. The unit rebooted and then hung on the Windows Mobile splash screen. Nothing else happened for 30-min. so I removed the battery for another 30-min. This cycle has been repeated several times with and without the storage card installed but nothing has restored operability to my phone. I have contacted Anton about this but other than his questions regarding which file I downloaded from his site (it was the .cab file for WM5) I have heard nothing further.
Looks as though my phone will need a hard reset - just hope I have a salvageable storage card.
JayBee

sorry to hear that Jaybee, that's messed up. I no longer trust Antons software and will be deleting PM as soon as I have completed this post.
Did you know that a few versions ago he apparently released a version of PM that had malicious code in the app to format or corrupt your memory card? now that was all about striking back at cracked versions of his software. I'm all for developers protecting their investment, but not at the expense of peoples expensive gadgets, especially when weighed up against software which only cost a few measely bucks in comparison!!
This type of action also gave some of his genuine customers problems.
Nah,sorry, i'm done with his software.

PM
I have reported the bug to Anton and he told me the was a major bug in the 2.42 version which only appears in WM5. Now they have released the 2.45 version. Beware, after installing and using scandisk with safe mode my device frooze while booting. I had to hard reset my device to get it working again.

I'm using version 2.30.172 with no problem at all. I have all the buttons that are missing is Mackaby007's unit.

Which Athena do you have?
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I'm using version 2.30.172 with no problem at all. I have all the buttons that are missing is Mackaby007's unit.
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Hi eaglesteve.
What unit do you have? X7500, Dopod or Ameo?

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What unit do you have? X7500, Dopod or Ameo?
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Mine is a Dopod.

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Mine is a Dopod.
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That would explain it then. The Dopod ROM seems much better put together than the Ameo ROM.
I'm relieved. Software differences will be resolved in the future.

I just had the infuriating problem of not locating the action/dialog buttons for Pocket Mechanic (and I'm a newbie to WinMobile - just got my HTC TyTNII last Friday).
Turns out it's something to do with the system fonts (and/or font size). One of the FAQs at PocketMechanic website (Wizcode.com) states that:
If the buttons at the bottom of different Pocket Mechanic Professional module dialogs are missing or misplaced you need to adjust the system font properties of your Windows Mobile Device. Symptoms always appear after the default system font settings are changed (most often by a 3rd party application).
Pocket Mechanic Professional missing buttonsThe current implementation of MFC libraries could cause the buttons (and other dialog controls) to be incorrectly positioned on dialogs if the default system font is changed. The MapDialogRect API that is used for mapping controls on a dialog takes into account the system font properties when calculating the positions of the controls but it doesn’t seem to do that correctly on Windows CE. The side effects of that are oddly placed dialog controls when using a non-default system font. Sometimes the controls will be position outside the visible are of the dialogs thus making them unusable.
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I must've messed around with that earlier (changed to Tahoma 8pt or 9pt) either with Tweaks 2K2.NET or some other tool.
I've now set it to Segoe UI (and 8pt) , and the dialog buttons are back.
Another problem that manifested from the initial changing of fonts was that the tabs to configure Journal Bar (at the bottom of the screen) had disappeared as well.
Now they're back.
Hope this helps.

Well done!

TOMTOM

Hi, did a search and nothing came up.
But just wondering where can i get the TOMTOM navigation software that works with the TP2 please??
also are there any sites specially for TP2/windows mobile apps??
thanks

AFAIK the Tomtom software is free, you only pay for the maps, but I could be wrong. I'm using 7.915.9196 which is VGA and works fine
I don't think there is any TP2 specific software on the market but there is loads of WM6 stuff
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php is a place to start and handango

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same here, no problems at all. already tookm a trip, relied on it, and trip went perfect

TomTom is shipped with some devices. But it's not freeware!
Beware you don't start talking warez here
TomTom just made TomTom 7 available on their website for PocketPC's.
TomTom works just fine on the Rhodium probably.

no GPS LAG?

TOM TOM software is not free. and will not currently work with TP2. well the home software dont work. So i cant get the map i purchased. And they wont refund as i was not using a licensed version of software so definitely not free and not officially working

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TOM TOM software is not free. and will not currently work with TP2. well the home software dont work. So i cant get the map i purchased. And they wont refund as i was not using a licensed version of software so definitely not free and not officially working
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tom tom navigator works purfect on the TP2, have it on mine

Hi
I Have tomtom 7.450 installed on my tp2 and its working well for me.

yes but are they legal versions and work with the TOMTOm home

I had version 7.910.9185 which didn't install.
I have now installed 7.915.9196 but it is asking to activate the map and wants an activation code.
So I went to ttcode.com to get one and it needs the product code. I can't find the product code anywhere, tomtom.com myorders doesn't mention one and tomtom home just shows the map version.
As far as I can make out from tomtom's help version ttn7 onwards don't use product codes.
So how do I get the activation code?

Contact TomTom about that

tomtom again
Hey guys,
iam new here and from germany.
Last week i got my new TP2 (branded by T-Mobile, now called "MDA Vario V")
i tried to install following versions:
Mod Edit: NO MENTION OF WAREZ PERMITTED
so,
if i install the programm on my "phone-storage" i got the warning "BTTrayCE is not a valiued application..."
if i install it on my sd-card i got NO warnings.
but in every versions i got the problem that the software do not find my extractet maps. I searched for a long time and tried different folders, and now its 11:00PM and i dont have any nerves left
i hope somebody can help me and gimme a detailed instructure how to get my tomtom running.
so far,
mypTx

TomTom questions always walk a thin line with regards to legality. No discussion of maps will be permitted.

Opps sorry never mind

There should be a ttnavigator.bif file on the root of the storage card which you can open up in notepad and find the code in there...I think.

if you have live services like traffic and speed cameras then 7.915 is useless as you cannot enable traffic (bug). There is also a definate lag on the GPS side of things compared to my TYTNII. Tomtom at present do not officially support the TP2, although when i phoned them they were more than happy to assist. TTHome is not worth bothering with till they release a version that is compatible with it. I kept on getting errors about device id not matching even though you select to change it and TomTom had reset my account. Gave up in the end and have copied speed cameras manually and traffic is now working.

Managed to get Tomtom 6 working!
Hi,
Having just bought a Touch Pro 2 sim free - loving the device and just about got it set up the way I like it.
You can indeed install Tomtom 6 on it, but BEFORE you do I highly recommend you install a utility called WVGAFIX3. What it does is allow you to change the resolution on your TP2.
Change it to VGA (640x480), then install and run TomTom. It's a bit of a pain toggling between resolutions at the moment, but once a WVGA version of tomtom is released then problem solved.
Got the radio working thanks to the CAB on here, and the 1% batt driver!

robsamuel2k8 said:
Hi,
Having just bought a Touch Pro 2 sim free - loving the device and just about got it set up the way I like it.
You can indeed install Tomtom 6 on it, but BEFORE you do I highly recommend you install a utility called WVGAFIX3. What it does is allow you to change the resolution on your TP2.
Change it to VGA (640x480), then install and run TomTom. It's a bit of a pain toggling between resolutions at the moment, but once a WVGA version of tomtom is released then problem solved.
Got the radio working thanks to the CAB on here, and the 1% batt driver!
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Why TT6? TT7.915.916 runs great on my Rhodium. No hassle with resolutions or anything.

Hi,
I tried to install TT Nav. 7 on my TP2, but it doesn't seem to work. I get a message dat TT7 is not compatible with my device. How did you guys got it to work?

Dear all,
It is posible to route Tomtom sounds to bluetooth headset or radio cd bt enabled as handsfree (as a phone call, only hear Tomtom when needed and till then carry on listening music)?
Thanks.

[Q] Windows Mobile 6.0

I asked this elsewhere, but this is a better place to post i think.
Is it possible to have Windows Mobile 6.0 run on the HTC Touch HD? If so, what ROM would I need? I want an English version. I need to run some software on it which doesnt work with WM6.1 and WM6.5

roms have to be 100% custom made with just the correct drivers for it to work on a device
it would be a first if a rom cooker spend too much time cooking an older version then what came with the device be it wm6 or wm5 for that matter
so would not hold my breath

Shame, we needed to get ~80 of these downgraded to WM6.0 for the software to work. I wonder if Orange would accept 80 returned phones

Have sw compatibility problems? I used on WM6.1 all programs from WM5 w/o problems ^^
80 Devices? You could PM directly a cooker and ask him about your problem: you could find a solution
D'rath

avisonjohn said:
Shame, we needed to get ~80 of these downgraded to WM6.0 for the software to work. I wonder if Orange would accept 80 returned phones
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80!?! Holy crap?? What are those 80 HDs used for??

It could be possible but you would need to find WVGA resolution files for the WM 6.0 SYS build first. I don't think there were any WM6.0 WVGA devices.

Got a load of phones that we issue to satellite engineers for work. We have a bit of software than rubs on the phones and the engineers use it to get customer information, allocate stock to the customer, activate the customers hardware and subscription services ect.
We have never been able to get it to work with WM6.1 or WM6.5
It gives some error about graphics or display or something along those lines.
We currently use the HTC Kaiser (TyTnII) which came with WM6.1 and we had to flash them all to WM6.0 for the software to work.
Without the software, all the staff are unable to work.
Also, is there a way that I can install certain software and configure settings on a windows mobile device, then make a backup of that device and flash it to all the other devices? Its just that having to flash 80+ devices to windows 6.0 and then install framework, then software, then setup messaging and GPRS settings and a few other dependencies can be time consuming (about 30mins per device). When this is done for 80+ devices, well....you get the idea...

Have you tried WVGA fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455974
With this you can change the screen to VGA which the program might work with.

avisonjohn said:
Also, is there a way that I can install certain software and configure settings on a windows mobile device, then make a backup of that device and flash it to all the other devices? Its just that having to flash 80+ devices to windows 6.0 and then install framework, then software, then setup messaging and GPRS settings and a few other dependencies can be time consuming (about 30mins per device). When this is done for 80+ devices, well....you get the idea...
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Yes, you can do this with backup software like Spb Backup.. it backs up the phone's installed software and registry to a file which you can execute on another phone so that it is restored to the exact same way as on the original phone.
Or you can use something free called Sashimi.
Another thing is, if the ROM has User Customization built in, you can have the ROM look for a file called SDConfig.txt on your storage card, which contains a list of CAB/XML files on your SD card to execute automatically after a flash.

rovex said:
Have you tried WVGA fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455974
With this you can change the screen to VGA which the program might work with.
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It will most definitely be the WVGA resolution that is stuffing the software up, all issues with software not running under windows 6.1 on the HD are caused by one of two issues:
1) Software dependencies, ie. Compact Framework version - I have never came across a software dependency issue that cant be fixed
2) WVGA vs VGA resolution, and in this case with it being a graphics issue you will definitely be able to get it running using the WVGA fix quoted by rovex.
All you need to do is install the WVGA fix, do a soft reset and use the program to change it to VGA mode before launching your application which wont work, i can all but guarantee this will fix the problem, of course the only issue is you will have to change the res before launching the app all the time.
I would also suggest you contact the manufacturers of the software (or if its in house contact your in house development department) and tell them to make it work in WVGA resolution, this should only be a minor change, after all they dont need to move all the controls around just ensure it loads even it dosnt use the whole screen.

TheToid said:
It will most definitely be the WVGA resolution that is stuffing the software up, all issues with software not running under windows 6.1 on the HD are caused by one of two issues:
1) Software dependencies, ie. Compact Framework version - I have never came across a software dependency issue that cant be fixed
2) WVGA vs VGA resolution, and in this case with it being a graphics issue you will definitely be able to get it running using the WVGA fix quoted by rovex.
All you need to do is install the WVGA fix, do a soft reset and use the program to change it to VGA mode before launching your application which wont work, i can all but guarantee this will fix the problem, of course the only issue is you will have to change the res before launching the app all the time.
I would also suggest you contact the manufacturers of the software (or if its in house contact your in house development department) and tell them to make it work in WVGA resolution, this should only be a minor change, after all they dont need to move all the controls around just ensure it loads even it dosnt use the whole screen.
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I tried using that tool, but it still didnt work. Instead I just got a screen saying "We're Sorry" and something about cprog.exe has stopped working.
We have been told that it needs to be run on version 1.81.61.2 on the Kaiser, apparently this is the display or graphics version or whatever that is required for it to run, but im thinking this is the number that shows on the bottom right of the device when powered....
Anyway to find out exactly whats causing this error or any other work around?

avisonjohn said:
I tried using that tool, but it still didnt work. Instead I just got a screen saying "We're Sorry" and something about cprog.exe has stopped working.
We have been told that it needs to be run on version 1.81.61.2 on the Kaiser, apparently this is the display or graphics version or whatever that is required for it to run, but im thinking this is the number that shows on the bottom right of the device when powered....
Anyway to find out exactly whats causing this error or any other work around?
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I would suggest talking to the developer/manufacturer of the software your trying to get to work to see if they can modify it to work WVGA resolution. This would most likely be your easiest route, especially when all new devices will be on wm6.5 or later and not compatible with wm6.0

Fallen Spartan said:
I would suggest talking to the developer/manufacturer of the software your trying to get to work to see if they can modify it to work WVGA resolution. This would most likely be your easiest route, especially when all new devices will be on wm6.5 or later and not compatible with wm6.0
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Yes, if the WVGA fix dosnt work then I can only assume that the software has been specifically designed to be locked to only work on the Kaiser phone, the only way you are going to fix this is to contact the manufacturer or employ a software engineer to reverse engineer the software and make it work on the HD, which could be costly and time consuming.