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www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
MC
thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
Hello,
My MDA is set up to grab my exchange email, etc over the air through activesync. When I set up the account on the MDA, the setup wizard told me that I could set the account to grab new messages as they arrive. That of course sounds great so I chose that option.
Anyway, occasionally (not always) when I receive a new message on the exchange account, I get a text message silmultaneously with the same from address and subject as the new exchange email that arrived. I assume that "directpush" works by sending out these texts to trigger an activesync. However, as I mentioned, i don't ALWAYS get these texts. Also, it appears that I occasionally get texts a day after the message arrives in my inbox and even after I know I've read and deleted the message from my MDA.
Regardless of the sporadic nature of the texts, shouldn't the MDA keep them hidden from me? It's a little frustrating having to go thru and delete all these erroneous messages.
Any suggestions as to how I can clean this mess up?
First you need to provide more information.
What Rom are you using?
Only AKU 2.x Roms support Direct Push and then you need to have the correct version of Exchange Server (I think 2k5 sp2).
Direct Push does not use SMS but rather a heartbeat via GPRS.
I believe the old version of AS with Exchange Server used SMS (1.x Roms).
Thanks for the response.
I'm using xelencin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53300
I have "direct push" turned on via the comm mgr. My office uses exchange 2k3, not sure what service pack. I don't believe there is such a thing as 2k5.
I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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The thing is, it works. I get mesages delivered to my phone nearly instantly. However, my SMS box is full of useless crap and this dilutes the usefullness of SMS in general.
That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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Ok, that makes sense. I'll get a hold of the exchange admin weds and see if he can do anything for me.
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
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It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
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Interesting. I removed the relationship from activesync (activesync basically now asks me to set up sync with a pc or exchange server), but I'm still getting the texts. Sometimes, I'm getting duplicate texts. They're all coming from "701" if that helps.
HALP!
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This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
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Is there anyway for me to check the version of exchange as a user?
Ya, the SMS thing is a concern for me. I had to sign up for a text plan on tmobile so that I don't end up oweing a fortune at the end of the month!
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
Also, I just re set up my exchange OTA active sync. I get a "pop up" saying that I can synch as items arrive. When I go into "schedule", there's a link there to set that up which then asks for "Text messaging address for this device". Previously, I put in [email protected] which seems to work, but maybe I need to enter it differently some how?
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
I have an idea.
It appears that even the new versions of exchange have the feature "AUTD" which does the SMS message triggered update. I set up the exchange account for "auto update" 2 times now, but haven't set it up a 3rd. Is it possible that when the user configures the auto update feature, it triggers the AUTD sms messaging bit on the server? Since I've done it twice, I'm now getting two sms messages per incoming email. However, previously, when i had pocket outlook configured to handle the auto-update bit, it was concealing one of the two identical SMS's, but not the other.
I'm sure I explained this horribly, but it was worth a shot.
Not sure why I didn't notice this earlier...
I'm getting texts related to ALL of my email accounts configured on the device. This includes the exchange account mentioned earlier, but also two GMAIL accounts. For what it's worth, I set these two gmail accounts up through the tmobile set up wizard and later deleted the accounts from the device in an attempt to test things out. When the accounts were setup, they seemed to be grabbing the mail through a tmobile proxy or something instead of directly from the gmail servers.
No idea why I'm getting these messages, but this is getting crazy!
Stranger and stranger! I think that I would contact T-Mobile asap and cancel that SMS. I personally have never had any need for Texting, etc but people have different needs.
What I would start out with is to hard reset the phone after syncing it. Then I'd delete the partnership with AS. I'd setup my Exchange by installing your Exchange server's Security Certificate on your device(which you should keep on your SD card), configuring the AS on the device, never connecting to the PC. Wait a while to setup your GMail accounts, etc. ... one step at a time.
Good luck!
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RESOLVED!
Ok, I think I figured it out.
T-mobile apparently uses these text messages to trigger email synchs.
I logged into my tmobile account and decided to pay attention to the "t-zones" section for the first time. "Setup My E-Mail" takes you to a page that allows you to configure email accounts for your device. It also allows you to check your email for those accounts. Anyway, there's an "Alerts" section that you can configure and it appears to relate to these texts that I've been receiving. Even my exchange account was configured here and was setup to send the text messages.
Additionally, it appears that I wasn't being charged for the texts. None of them have shown up in my online bill.
I believe that ALL of this was the result of using the tmobile email setup wizard that's included on the phone xelencin's cooked rom.
Whew, I feel like I've solved a puzzle.
Good for you! Makes sense now...
I've never run that email wizard myself, always manually create the accounts.
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Good day all
I have set my HD2 to sync with my work email but the problem is that push email doesn't work at all, I have to click on send / receive manually to get my inbox updated. I am sure I did the setting correctly, also I have activated push email.
I dont know why it doesn't work in the htc hd2, my friend has an iphone 3GS and it works perfectly for him, he receives Work emails on time.
is it problem in the Rom it self ? my rom version is 1.48.405.2 (WWE)
can anyone help me please
Have you set the schedule to 'as item arrives'?
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Have you set the schedule to 'as item arrives'?
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yes i did, both peak time & Non-PeaK time set as "as item arrives" even though, it doesn't work
What about when you connect your HD2 into your pc via usb and let it connect via activesync, do you then get your emails?
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What about when you connect your HD2 into your pc via usb and let it connect via activesync, do you then get your emails?
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I had tried to connect it via USB cable, in the begining of the connection when windows mobile device center sync with the HD2, it receives the emails but if the sync process stopped and I kept it connected for a while during that time I cant receive any new email on time and the inbox will not be updated unless I open windows mobile device center again and click on the Sync icon and after it sync again the inbox will be updated.
this mean even when I connect it via usb , it will not receives any new emails on time. it will only receive during sync process
Even though my push email is working i'm not convinced its working 100 percent of the time but i have always put this down to it being my push email provider's fault. Are you trying to use the GMail push email service? I ask because that is notoriously unstable. Can you try another push email service? Maybe GMail's sevice if you are not already using it?
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Even though my push email is working i'm not convinced its working 100 percent of the time but i have always put this down to it being my push email provider's fault. Are you trying to use the GMail push email service? I ask because that is notoriously unstable. Can you try another push email service? Maybe GMail's sevice if you are not already using it?
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actually the push email service that I am trying to use is the one for the company I am working for (my employer email) and as I told earlier my friend has an Iphone 3GS and it is working perfectly with him. we are both working in the same company, his Iphone can push email but my hd2 cant...
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actually the push email service that I am trying to use is the one for the company I am working for (my employer email) and as I told earlier my friend has an Iphone 3GS and it is working perfectly with him. we are both working in the same company, his Iphone can push email but my hd2 cant...
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Hi - I have the push email working fine with my employer's Exchange server, using HD2 with 1.48 ROM, so it should be possible to make it work.
One suggestion - delete the current Outlook account in Windows Mobile Device Center, and delete it from the HD2 as well. Then create the Outlook account again, making sure to do this on the HD2 disconnected from Windows Mobile Device Center, i.e. using the HD2 standalone over wireless or 3g connection.
You might want to unselect Calendar and Contacts sync until you have email sync working. You can configure the sync for them again afterwards.
This is just my personal experience but I have found it much more reliable to initiate the Outlook setup standalone from the phone. Good luck !
Jon.
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Hi - I have the push email working fine with my employer's Exchange server, using HD2 with 1.48 ROM, so it should be possible to make it work.
One suggestion - delete the current Outlook account in Windows Mobile Device Center, and delete it from the HD2 as well. Then create the Outlook account again, making sure to do this on the HD2 disconnected from Windows Mobile Device Center, i.e. using the HD2 standalone over wireless or 3g connection.
You might want to unselect Calendar and Contacts sync until you have email sync working. You can configure the sync for them again afterwards.
This is just my personal experience but I have found it much more reliable to initiate the Outlook setup standalone from the phone. Good luck !
Jon.
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thanks Jon. I will do as you suggested and hopefully it will work.
I will advise later.
I have the same problem. My device was v1.43.
updated to 1.48, push didnt work.
updated to 1.61, push email still doesnt work for me. My exchange server is from the company i work for too. Many other employees use Blackbery Bolds and they keep receiving mails as they arrive but i have to send/receive.
yes i chose the option to receive `as items arrive`.
go get Flexmail...fantastic app...specially now that its on sale for US$ 4.97 if you buy from WebIS site direct
Have you tried to configure your exchange account directly in ActiveSync on your phone ?
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thanks Jon. I will do as you suggested and hopefully it will work.
I will advise later.
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No, Luck Jon. I had tried your suggestion and still it doesnt work
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go get Flexmail...fantastic app...specially now that its on sale for US$ 4.97 if you buy from WebIS site direct
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I will give it a try
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Have you tried to configure your exchange account directly in ActiveSync on your phone ?
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Yes, I configure it from my phone.
but actually not from activesync, i configure it from the email tab in htc manila
it seems push email doesnt work on the HD2..
I tried all possible solutions but no chance to solve this issue
Have you tried push mail with Gmail? If it works then it should be incompatibility issue or VPN access that restrict HD2 from accessing the company's email server.
My push with Gmail works perfectly. And I didn't setup using ActiveSync.
>>it seems push email doesnt work on the HD2.
I guarantee it does, I've both an iphone and HD2, whilst making the transition from iphone to HD2, both phones have the same email account configured (zarafa a linux replacement for exchange server with z-push ) and emails arrive more or less simultaneously to both devices.
Maybe you'd like to post your email settings and i'll compare them to my own.
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it seems push email doesnt work on the HD2..
I tried all possible solutions but no chance to solve this issue
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It does. Just try and config a Gmail Exchange account in Active Sync, it should work. If it doesnt, there's a problem with your phone.
Got the same problem. And also running before same mailbox with a iPhone. (works great). Same mailbox is now also running on a iPod touch.
Push doesn't work, from the beginning. My outlook account is from a hosted exchange server. I'm gonna try to remove and perhaps try with another mailbox (never used by iphone/ipod).
Update: Did some tests. With another provider (T-mobile) it works. With KPN Hi it doesnt. Seems like some providers doesnt support SSL.
I'm tempted -- the hardware platform seems to be very close to what I'd want. (Don't like that the front buttons aren't hard-buttons, but I can probably live with that.)
I'm waiting (for now) to hear some feedback about Exchange integration (calendar sync, push email, contacts sync.)
(I got (and returned) two Android phones so far: an N1 on the day they came out, and a Galaxy S (pretty nearly the day they came out) and ended up returning both. (History: Blackberry 857, Blackberry 5810, Blackberry 6710, Blackberry 7290, Blackberry 8310. Yes, I'm used to my Exchange email and calendar being rock-solid.))
Questions for anybody who gets their hands on one and has Exchange:
- Does calendar sync work? Comments?
- Can you: accept/reject/tentative meeting requests from email app?
- Can you: accept/reject/tentative meeting requests from calendar app?
- Can you create a meeting request?
- Can you view availability?
- Can you change the meeting reminder tone? (Believe it or not, on the Galaxy S running 2.1, there's no way to do this.)
- Does email push? Comments?
- Do email subfolders push?
- Can you move messages into subfolders?
- Can you view and/or search server subfolders?
- Can you get a unified view of your Exchange and Google/GAFYD inbox?
- Can you access the GAL?
- Do contacts sync?
- Do contacts in subfolders sync? Can you choose subfolders to sync or not?
- Can you do these things in the stock apps, or do you have to use Touchdown or K9 or Moxier to get the results you want?
Thanks.
From what you list, Touchdown would be your best bet I think. Granted, I haven't used (or have ever heard of) K9 or Moxier so I don't know how they are but I have used Touchdown since Android 1.5 and it's been fantastic. Last night I got my G2 and decided to try the stock Exchange in Android to see how well it fared and it's fine for basic Exchange email but that's about it. A co-worker of mine swears by it but I'm wondering if he just doesn't want to pay for Touchdown? Then again all he does is basic email. If you're doing more like meetings, availability, etc... then you'd need to look at something other than stock Exchange. In my case, I'm sticking with Touchdown. I don't know if you've used Touchdown at all but you can download it (fully functional) and use it for 5 (or is it 7?) days before it asks you to purchase it.
Now for K9 and Moxier...I haven't even heard of them but will check them out myself to see if they are a better way to go than Touchdown.
Exchange integration is very important to me and so far, this phone is outperforming the Blackberry that I used before I got the G2. Granted, I was not on a BES with the BB; I imagine that there's pretty much nothing better than a Blackberry on a BES when it comes to Exchange.
Here are answers to your questions:
Calendar sync works great. I create an event in Outlook and see it on my phone really quickly, and vice versa. I cannot say that the sync is instananeous but does the trick.
Accepting/rejecting/creating meetings and availability I've never had the opportunity to do, so I don't know.
You can change the overall meeting reminder tone, but not for each individual meeting. At least not natively....there may be an app available for that.
Email pushes. Sometimes instantaneously, sometimes with a bit of very reasonable lag (30sec - 1min).
I'm able to access my email subfolder on my phone. The sent messages sync between my Outlook and my phone, as well as my junk mail folder syncs also (unfortunately).
It appears I cannot move emails from one folder into another (bummer).
It also appears that not only can I not search through any of my emails, I also cannot copy/paste from the body of the emails I receive either (major bummer).
I only have one email address syncing right now.....but I believe you can have the inbox either split your two email addresses into their own respective inboxes, or combine the two and show all in one. I did this on the Vibrant while I had it for a very short time. I can say though that Gmail has its own icon and MAY not show in the general Email application. I don't know for sure as I don't really even use gmail and have not tried adding it under the general Email application.
The GAL is supported and it's pretty cool cause I can start typing a recipient's name in the "to" field in my email and it'll auto search the GAL.
Contacts sync in the same manner as email/calendar sync.
I haven't seen any options to choose contact subfolders to sync. I will say though that distribution lists/contact groups don't sync.
Everything I've said in this post deals with the native Email application of Android 2.2. I am not using any third party application.
Tasks and Notes do not sync.
Best of luck to you.
I have been using TouchDown for +1 year. Started on the MyTouch 3G and it is easier to use on the G2.
The G2 integration is basic: calandar, email and contacts only . Touchdown is a full fledged Exchange client that allows you do everything you can do from your desktop. Took less than 2 mins to configure and it was up and running. There was 0 issue transfering the license from the myTouch to the G2 as they have integrated the license to your google email account, not the phone you purchased it for.
^ Stock does contacts sync too.
The Froyo email client supports Activesync version 12, that eliminated some of the limitations that the stock exchange intergation had. On my G2 I have 3 exchange accounts setup. all sync'ing calendar, contacts, email add, moves, changes and invites. In addition to that I can sync my public folders, most particuarly my GALs.
So that there is no confusion on what I am saying:
Here are important points:
- It is possible to synchronize ALL public/shared folders to the devices. This
includes emails, contacts, calendars and tasks.
- The folders must be explicitly selected for synchornization
- Only few devices can display more than one calendar or contact folder, so all calendars, and contacts even shared will be contained in the native folder. Only a problem with you use multiple accounts.
The only current Activesync limitations with contacts are as follows:
Activesync can synchronize up to 3 email address. Phone number synchronization is limited to 2 Home numbers, 1 Home Fax, 1 Mobile, 1 Pager, 3 Work (one will be labeled 'Company Main') and one Work Fax number."
So you do have options, but as you can see from the other posts, what you want to do can definitely be supported.
I call BS on you syncing tasks and being able to move emails between folders natively.
I bought a license for Moxier Mail back in the days before Android 2.x. I don't keep any third party EAS clients around anymore thanks to the built-in EAS. However, if you absolutely need features like GAL, accept/reject meetings, availability, basically anything beyond mail and very basic calendaring, then you better get one of the third party EAS clients.
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What exchange server version are you trying to do it on, and what is the version of Activesync?
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What exchange server version are you trying to do it on, and what is the version of Activesync?
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I have no idea......my school runs it.
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I have no idea......my school runs it.
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Other than your phone how do you connect to your email account?
For what it's worth the implementation of ActiveSync on the G2 is not supporting any security provisioning.
Passcode lock is not enforced, and I am not 100% about remote wipe. I will be testing at some point in time tomorrow.
I will be contacting HTC tomorrow, T-Mobile didn't have any info about the lack of support for these features.
I was surprised as this is the only 2.2 phone I have tested that does not support these features. (Droid 2, Droid X, HTC 4G, CM6 on my HD2)
Remarkably HTC was even less help than T-Mobile
I was basically informed that not enough people had complained about the bungled implementation of ActiveSync yet, so they didnt have any further information and were not investigating a fix.
It was a nice 12 hours G2, but it looks like you are going back to Tmo
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Other than your phone how do you connect to your email account?
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Outlook 2010 direct to the exchange server
mark925 said:
From what you list, Touchdown would be your best bet I think. Granted, I haven't used (or have ever heard of) K9 or Moxier so I don't know how they are but I have used Touchdown since Android 1.5 and it's been fantastic. Last night I got my G2 and decided to try the stock Exchange in Android to see how well it fared and it's fine for basic Exchange email but that's about it.
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I tried Touchdown back on the N1, and I recall being very unimpressed with the UI; I'm afraid I don't remember specifics, but it didn't leave a good taste.
When you say "it's fine for basic Exchange", can you clarify what you consider non-basic? (I would, for example, consider everything I mentioned to be "basic"; non-basic would be delegate management, category administration, rules....) Thanks.
I tried Touchdown when I tried the N1, and was so unimpressed that I don't think I tried it again on the Galaxy S. Moxier doesn't appear to be updating MoxierMail, but it worked pretty well. K9 was new to me, but appealed because it was rapidly evolving with a strong, tech oriented, development and discussion community -- a couple of small bugs I found were reported, tested, and fixed during just the week I had the Galaxy S.
UPDATE: Just saw this on the Touchdown site: "TouchDown does not work with POP3 or IMAP servers". In other words, I couldn't use it as a single client for Exchange and non-Exchange accounts; for me, that's a killer.
aedv said:
Exchange integration is very important to me and so far, this phone is outperforming the Blackberry that I used before I got the G2. Granted, I was not on a BES with the BB; I imagine that there's pretty much nothing better than a Blackberry on a BES when it comes to Exchange.
Here are answers to your questions:
Calendar sync works great. I create an event in Outlook and see it on my phone really quickly, and vice versa. I cannot say that the sync is instananeous but does the trick.
Accepting/rejecting/creating meetings and availability I've never had the opportunity to do, so I don't know.
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Email pushes. Sometimes instantaneously, sometimes with a bit of very reasonable lag (30sec - 1min).
I'm able to access my email subfolder on my phone. The sent messages sync between my Outlook and my phone, as well as my junk mail folder syncs also (unfortunately).
It appears I cannot move emails from one folder into another (bummer).
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The GAL is supported and it's pretty cool cause I can start typing a recipient's name in the "to" field in my email and it'll auto search the GAL.
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I haven't seen any options to choose contact subfolders to sync. I will say though that distribution lists/contact groups don't sync.
Everything I've said in this post deals with the native Email application of Android 2.2. I am not using any third party application. [...]
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aedv, thanks for your response -- I'm a little confused though. You say you don't have BES, but your back end is Exchange? If that's right, thanks -- valuable info. I'd appreciate it if you'd check the contacts subfolder thing; if you're willing, PM me your email address, and I'll send you a test meeting invite so we can see if you get the option to accept/decline.
My back end is Exchange, and I did not use BES while I was on my Blackberry. The Exchange server is run by my school and they don't have a BES.
I tried contact subfolders and that didn't work. I sent myself an invitation to a meeting and I was given the option on the phone to either accept or deny the invitation, so there's your answer.
markdurant said:
The Froyo email client supports Activesync version 12, that eliminated some of the limitations that the stock exchange intergation had. On my G2 I have 3 exchange accounts setup. all sync'ing calendar, contacts, email add, moves, changes and invites. In addition to that I can sync my public folders, most particuarly my GALs.
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markdurant, thanks -- despite your great answer, I'm still a tiny bit confused. Can you clarify re:
- contacts subfolders: I have a main Contacts folder, with a subfolder "manufacturing contacts". Can I cause the subfolder to sync? (I understand from your answer that the appearance on the device may be "flat", i.e. all in one giant list; that's ok.)
- message filing: You are able to move messages from Inbox to other Exchange folders?
- Common inbox: You mention having three Exchange boxes; do you get a consolidated view, perhaps with color coding? Do you have any non-Exchange (e.g. Google) email accounts?
Thanks again.
Nothign can be worse than the Vibrant's exchange integration... for some reason it will NOT sync the majority my calendar entries on my exchange account. Email is fine but the calendar on the vibrant is just terrible. Worked fine on the nexus, and has sync'd fine on any nokia (symbian s60/maemo) phone I've used as well.
One of the reasons I'm ditching the vibrant and jumping to g2 goodness.
moxie said:
For what it's worth the implementation of ActiveSync on the G2 is not supporting any security provisioning.
Passcode lock is not enforced, and I am not 100% about remote wipe. I will be testing at some point in time tomorrow.
I will be contacting HTC tomorrow, T-Mobile didn't have any info about the lack of support for these features.
I was surprised as this is the only 2.2 phone I have tested that does not support these features. (Droid 2, Droid X, HTC 4G, CM6 on my HD2)
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How does it not support passcodes? It's a feature of Stock Android 2.2...
SuperFly03 said:
How does it not support passcodes? It's a feature of Stock Android 2.2...
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My point exactly...
I absolutely love my focus with WP7, but my new office only supports direct push and they wont allow this hotmail connector thing.
Are there any plans to include this support in the upcoming release. I hate the idea of having to give up my windows phone because it wont support exchange like most other phones.
mmurray21 said:
I absolutely love my focus with WP7, but my new office only supports direct push and they wont allow this hotmail connector thing.
Are there any plans to include this support in the upcoming release. I hate the idea of having to give up my windows phone because it wont support exchange like most other phones.
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It does support exchange activesync. In fact it is THE only push email technology the phone supports (both Hotmail and Gmail use EAS).
thanks for the reply. I take it this means, I shouldn't expect a change and need to order a new phone.
mmurray21 said:
thanks for the reply. I take it this means, I shouldn't expect a change and need to order a new phone.
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That means your Focus currently already supports push email from your Exchange server. What you need is to talk to you IT admin about how to configure it (you will need to connect to an external exchange server address that is accessible via internet, not your desktop Outlook) and if you are allowed to do so (some companies add additional permission policy to limit the access). A new phone doesn't solve you any thing. EAS is not a new technology. It's been here about 5 years since old Windows Mobile 5.0.
So what specifically do i need to request since the current setup works with WM 6.5, iphone, and android.
There is nothing special need to be done on Focus. Exchange Active Sync is the same as on WM. iPhone or Android. The only thing that WP7 lacks, from what I read, is email encryption. If your company requires email encryption policy, it will not work. But again, Android never really supports email encryption either. So, if you have Android working (not using 3rd party software like TouchDown), you should be fine.
What exactly is your problem with your Exchange Sync. Outlook Hotmail connector has nothing to do with it. It is only required if you want to sync your non-Exchange Outlook calendar and contacts to hotmail.
Actually, I have only tried it with WM 6.5 and iPhone. Email does require encryption. When I try to add the settings to the focus it just says it outlook account info is incorrect. I had heard 3rd hand that people were able to get android going so thanks for the heads up. I was about to order an atrix.
I guess iPhone 4 is my only real option...
I'm willing to bet you just have the settings incorrect and your focus will work perfectly.
I work for Microsoft and I've had WM5, WM6.5, all of the iphones, and now a Samsung Focus all connected to corporate restricted exchange.
Our corporate policies are very strong, and yet our phones work fine. I can't read an encrypted message on the phone (but no phone other than the old WM can do that), but as far as connecting and downloading mail I think WP7 does it best. The only feature I believe is currently missing is threaded view, which I would assume is coming at some point.
My WP7 phone is currently connected to two separate exchange servers (MS corp, and outlook.com, which is similar to hotmail). So it's all possible.
What is it you're trying to do, and what's not working? Hotmail should work 100% since I believe they've rolled out direct exchange support for all accounts.
Thanks for helping.... Email works fine with hotmail, yahoo, and gmail. Its only when I try my outlook exchange mail that I have any issues. I have tried all of the possible permutations for setup.
I am not the only one with this problem
answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7-sync/does-windows-phone-7-sync-to-outlook/48ae2598-f773-4b4c-87cc-54d8c5c012d2
pocketnow.com/windows-phone/how-to-sync-windows-phone-7-with-outlook
They both seem to point out the deficiency with the phone.
So you have ecncrypted corporate email and dont have a problem?
You've lost me a little bit. Which are you trying to sync to Outlook (the desktop application), or Exchange (the mail server system)?
If you're trying to sync to Outlook, then i think you're out of luck. But, if you're trying to sync to Exchange (which is what 90% of people will have Outlook sync to), then it should work. I read both of the articles you linked, and they refer to Outlook data syncing, not to exchange. At least from what I gathered.
The phone can sync any mails with exchange, but there are two limitations. Specific private encrypted mails can't currently be read on any phone I believe (I think WM6.5 was the last OS to support them), and the WP7 device doesn't support full OS and storage encryption. It is possible for an Exchange admin to require that setting, although it's not common. A future release should include device encryption.
So, if you have a requirement on the second, then it sounds like WP7 won't current work for you. But, if it's not device encryption that you're looking for, then it sounds like WP7 should work fine.
Thanks for your help. I am trying to synch with exchange. I'll keep trying to configure it. I've asked our IT guys for help, but they have never even seen a phone with 7.
When I setup the account, there is a setting for logs. Do you happen to know where those end up and how I might get to them?
I don't know where the logging goes, but perhaps the error message your getting can be helpful?
I ran across this page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...exchange/7ccd6098-f9b5-44c7-84c6-2fd9e6a097f9
Which appears to hit some of the issues you're facing, and might provide some validation to the settings you're using.
Turns out your hunches were right, after escalating the issue for a week, the IT team came back and said "ooops" we forgot to add you to the list.
I put in the settings and everything works great. Thanks for challanging my assumption.