Hello,
My MDA is set up to grab my exchange email, etc over the air through activesync. When I set up the account on the MDA, the setup wizard told me that I could set the account to grab new messages as they arrive. That of course sounds great so I chose that option.
Anyway, occasionally (not always) when I receive a new message on the exchange account, I get a text message silmultaneously with the same from address and subject as the new exchange email that arrived. I assume that "directpush" works by sending out these texts to trigger an activesync. However, as I mentioned, i don't ALWAYS get these texts. Also, it appears that I occasionally get texts a day after the message arrives in my inbox and even after I know I've read and deleted the message from my MDA.
Regardless of the sporadic nature of the texts, shouldn't the MDA keep them hidden from me? It's a little frustrating having to go thru and delete all these erroneous messages.
Any suggestions as to how I can clean this mess up?
First you need to provide more information.
What Rom are you using?
Only AKU 2.x Roms support Direct Push and then you need to have the correct version of Exchange Server (I think 2k5 sp2).
Direct Push does not use SMS but rather a heartbeat via GPRS.
I believe the old version of AS with Exchange Server used SMS (1.x Roms).
Thanks for the response.
I'm using xelencin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53300
I have "direct push" turned on via the comm mgr. My office uses exchange 2k3, not sure what service pack. I don't believe there is such a thing as 2k5.
I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
kyphur said:
I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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The thing is, it works. I get mesages delivered to my phone nearly instantly. However, my SMS box is full of useless crap and this dilutes the usefullness of SMS in general.
That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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Ok, that makes sense. I'll get a hold of the exchange admin weds and see if he can do anything for me.
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
Steven
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pmow said:
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
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Interesting. I removed the relationship from activesync (activesync basically now asks me to set up sync with a pc or exchange server), but I'm still getting the texts. Sometimes, I'm getting duplicate texts. They're all coming from "701" if that helps.
HALP!
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This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
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Is there anyway for me to check the version of exchange as a user?
Ya, the SMS thing is a concern for me. I had to sign up for a text plan on tmobile so that I don't end up oweing a fortune at the end of the month!
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
Also, I just re set up my exchange OTA active sync. I get a "pop up" saying that I can synch as items arrive. When I go into "schedule", there's a link there to set that up which then asks for "Text messaging address for this device". Previously, I put in [email protected] which seems to work, but maybe I need to enter it differently some how?
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
I have an idea.
It appears that even the new versions of exchange have the feature "AUTD" which does the SMS message triggered update. I set up the exchange account for "auto update" 2 times now, but haven't set it up a 3rd. Is it possible that when the user configures the auto update feature, it triggers the AUTD sms messaging bit on the server? Since I've done it twice, I'm now getting two sms messages per incoming email. However, previously, when i had pocket outlook configured to handle the auto-update bit, it was concealing one of the two identical SMS's, but not the other.
I'm sure I explained this horribly, but it was worth a shot.
Not sure why I didn't notice this earlier...
I'm getting texts related to ALL of my email accounts configured on the device. This includes the exchange account mentioned earlier, but also two GMAIL accounts. For what it's worth, I set these two gmail accounts up through the tmobile set up wizard and later deleted the accounts from the device in an attempt to test things out. When the accounts were setup, they seemed to be grabbing the mail through a tmobile proxy or something instead of directly from the gmail servers.
No idea why I'm getting these messages, but this is getting crazy!
Stranger and stranger! I think that I would contact T-Mobile asap and cancel that SMS. I personally have never had any need for Texting, etc but people have different needs.
What I would start out with is to hard reset the phone after syncing it. Then I'd delete the partnership with AS. I'd setup my Exchange by installing your Exchange server's Security Certificate on your device(which you should keep on your SD card), configuring the AS on the device, never connecting to the PC. Wait a while to setup your GMail accounts, etc. ... one step at a time.
Good luck!
Steven
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RESOLVED!
Ok, I think I figured it out.
T-mobile apparently uses these text messages to trigger email synchs.
I logged into my tmobile account and decided to pay attention to the "t-zones" section for the first time. "Setup My E-Mail" takes you to a page that allows you to configure email accounts for your device. It also allows you to check your email for those accounts. Anyway, there's an "Alerts" section that you can configure and it appears to relate to these texts that I've been receiving. Even my exchange account was configured here and was setup to send the text messages.
Additionally, it appears that I wasn't being charged for the texts. None of them have shown up in my online bill.
I believe that ALL of this was the result of using the tmobile email setup wizard that's included on the phone xelencin's cooked rom.
Whew, I feel like I've solved a puzzle.
Good for you! Makes sense now...
I've never run that email wizard myself, always manually create the accounts.
Steven
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Hi,
This maybe intresting to someone, ive not tryed the 30 trial as i have no use for live email.
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I tried it - managed to work fairly well until I decided I wanted to uninstall it as the goodlink software overrides all of your existing accounts.
Didn't really bother reading a manual on uninstalling it as I just tried to remove it from remove Programs - didn't want to go - reset it to make sure no components were running when I next tried it - it said it had uninstalled it but there were still lots of residual evidence it had been there.
Eventually hard-reset and had to start from scratch again.
Don't get me wrong, I think it would be fantastic - one issue though - you do need to tell them a domain you wish them to receive mail for - didn't see an option to receive mail from an account forwarder.
If you already have a domain, this means transferring your domain record (or possibly just the MX record) to fasthosts.
I pay a monthly sub to 4smartphone.net - the service is excellent. Fully hosted exchange account that'll support "proper" push as soon as the device can be updated to support it.
I was told you cant pay monthly for 4smartphone you have to pay a year upfront
Chris
Thats also what I thought - I had signed up for a trial account and was told it needs a year to continue service.
erm you're right - year up front, but I look at it in terms of what it equates to per month... sorry for misleading
he he - no worries mate.
Have 4smartphone definitely confirmed they'll be supporting the push technology once the devices support it?
Am i confused here with this push email, i set up 4smartphone trial and when an email is received it sends a message to an email address that it has received mail, i set this up so an sms was sent to my phone from that email account when the mail arrived from 4smartphone, this activated my device to contact the server and get the mail, isnt this push email, the only problem was i had to pay for the sms triggers and it was costing a fortune to do it, what we need is the subscription to 4smartphone that sends a text message rather than an email at a reasonable cost
Guys enlighten me please
I thought the very same - O2 charge me 10p per SMS but I couldn't find any clear providers who would do the same for cheaper. Most providers were on about sending SMSes rather than allowing you to receive via their systems.
From what's been said, once the new update comes out with the push technology, the requirement for SMSes goes out the window as this is one of the things the exchange developers wanted to get rid of - reliance on the network provider.
All you need is a network connection of some sort (be it wifi, gprs, cradled) and it should receive the updates.
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he he - no worries mate.
Have 4smartphone definitely confirmed they'll be supporting the push technology once the devices support it?
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I think so, yes. In fact I think they've already upgraded their exchange servers to the correct service pack - so we're just waiting on an operator to bring out a ROM for the Universal which incorporates the Windows Messaging and Security patch for WM5.0
To the others - yes, you can set it up to text you if you receive email etc. Personally I just leave mine to check every 10 mins (which, lets face it, is practically instant "push" anyway!) as on average I receive a new mail less than 5 mins after it is sent. The data overhead is minimal this way and no texts are needed.
another push email 30 day free trial
i have tried another email push service for pocket pcs. it is called Pocket X-Press. you can access your pop3 and imap4 mail server and get a realtime push wit out checking from device in an interval.
you can download a trial version for wm 2003 and 2005 under: www.pocketxpress.com
has anybody experience made with this?
you tell us mate, you developed it
Hello guys,
Currently I have an HP Ipag h6315 running Windows Mobile 2003. I have setup 2 emails account on my PDA ( Gmail & Bellsouth ).
I set both accounts to connect and retreive new messages every 2 minutes; however, only the account "checked" under ACCOUNTS will be the one that connects and retreive the email messages.
Shouldn't both accounts connect every 2 minutes and get new messages?
for example:
- If i go to inbox, it'll default to the inbox of whatever account i have checked under "accounts". if i check bellsouth, i'm able to see my messages from my bellsouth email address; however, after i close it and go back to the today screen, then only "Bellsouth" will connect and get new emails every 2 minutes.
- If i want Gmail to be the one to connect the every 2 minutes then i would have to go to inbox and check Gmail in order to gmail to be the one to connect every 2 minutes.
I dont know if that's the way its supposed to be, since i have set the option to connect every 2 minutes on both accts.
If anyone knows of this issue and happens to have a solution for it, i really appreciate it. Or perhaps is just a non-fixed bug.
thank you in advance,
Will V.
Unfortunately I think it's a bug in the Universal. I've been dealing with this problem since I got my Universal several months ago. Originally I thought it was a Windows Mobile 2005 problem, but I've had confirmation from several Wizard users (which is also WM2005) that their devices will check multiple accounts automatically.
For the time being I've gotten used to making sure my universal is always on my most important account and simply switching to my other account and manually checking it periodically. I'm hoping that this will be fixed in the next ROM upgrade.
Brett
Same problem for me in my Qtek 9000. Only the "active" account cheks mail automatically, no the others accounts. I´m asking for the solution in several forums but no possible. I think is a problem on WM5.
Actually it might be a problem with both WM3 (what i'm using) and WM5 (what you guys are using) kind of sucks to be having to switch in between accts in order get your new messages... if that's the case, that's a quality that the blackberrys will always outperformed the Windows mobile devices.
I'm sorry Will, I misread your first message. I believe it's a known issue in WM2003... it was supposed to be fixed in Wm2005, but there are still problems with the universal, at least.
Brett
I have the same issue.
Its a Pocket Outlook issue, as when I bought and switched to WebIS Mail, there wasnt an issue anymore. Works like a dream, no issues w/ it EVER and wil try to use wifi instead of gprs if you are on a wireless network, giving you a good speed burst w/ the universal...
Still on Pocket Outlook...is it possible to have a 'replay to' address specified for an e-mail account?
I can see that webIS Mail has the opiton but couldn't find it on Outlook.
thanks,
www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
MC
thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
woot! my first post and i am happy to say that i am at a cafe writing this on my x01ht from softbank.
question:
does any one know any other mms programs that I can use besides arcsoft program. The program itself is good but when recieving mms it just doesn't decode the messege. Being in Japan mms is widely used and there is no real point if messaging if I can only use sms. SMS here is pretty much useless because of the length and pictures that people send here.
My phone is great but just missing that complete mms option. any help would be appreciated m__m at the moment I will try anything.
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^thank you for your reply^
So I am at work in Tokyo and still no solution to the problem. I know that there is Arcsoft, It works but only half the time with short messages. But really it's used to recieve short messages across networks and that's about it.
MMS composer doesn't really do what it's suppose to do, some one in the forum said that it has problems but no one has found the solution. Getting my girlfriend to find one through Japanese sites is a task and the solution points to the same problems.
Decoding error and can't recieve multimedia, I think the program is a waste of space honestly.
But is there any other alternatives?
Can I edit the program to make it recieve the error decoded message? It would be nice to know who sent the mms so I can reply and tell them that they would have to email it to my work email.
Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your question, but how did you get an email address for MMS from Softbank? They keep telling me that you can't get one for the X01HT. Thanks
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^thank you for your reply^
So I am at work in Tokyo and still no solution to the problem. I know that there is Arcsoft, It works but only half the time with short messages. But really it's used to recieve short messages across networks and that's about it.
MMS composer doesn't really do what it's suppose to do, some one in the forum said that it has problems but no one has found the solution. Getting my girlfriend to find one through Japanese sites is a task and the solution points to the same problems.
Decoding error and can't recieve multimedia, I think the program is a waste of space honestly.
But is there any other alternatives?
Can I edit the program to make it recieve the error decoded message? It would be nice to know who sent the mms so I can reply and tell them that they would have to email it to my work email.
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pls ignore my first comment if you have read it.
anyway, the decode issue has not been solved with MMS composer as lond as i know. i suppose it is simply a matter of time that s/b will provide software for mms. however, i don't really see a point in using mms with a device with which you can use push mail and pop3 mail for free.
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Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your question, but how did you get an email address for MMS from Softbank? They keep telling me that you can't get one for the X01HT. Thanks
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s/b just says you cannot use mms with x01ht. if you put your sim in another s/b phone and set up mms, you will get an addrees, won't you?
i see ...
thanks qtotter for the quick and swift answer ^-^ ill wait around for something to happen i guess
What i acually did was installed the software for the mms composer, then i just emailed out to my gmail account. It works sometimes sending long emails but as for just a test I just sent a 1 character mail.
My email address is garbage like [email protected] but it does work only if the mms composer works. I also couldn't figure out how setup the portal to change my email address but i guess that will come later when i fix this mms problem.
i still don't understand about pushmail. has something to do with setting up your own server at home, is that right? if i could get pushmail to work it would be nice.
sorry if i have bad grammar mistakes im writting this on the train home
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i still don't understand about pushmail. has something to do with setting up your own server at home, is that right? if i could get pushmail to work it would be nice.
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direct push mail is something like mms. there are a couple of ways to use this function.
1) use free server (http://www.mail2web.com/)
very easy. you cannot use your existing email address with this free service.
2) have your own exchange server (unrealistic for most people)
you can do whatever you want, but it is a little too expense for personal use.
3) use emoze (http://www.emoze.com)
seems popular. you have to have your home pc always on.
once again thanks
Now I'm at home chilling in front of my computer while I ponder about my phone bill because I am still using my old phone. I'm in a transition at the moment with my phones. Once qtotter mentioned about the Pushmail I started to search the site for some information. Some person has a free server and I'm thinking if that is a good thing to do, to put my messages a strangers server.
Thanks for the information once again, I will do my research before heading in a direction.
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however, i don't really see a point in using mms with a device with which you can use push mail and pop3 mail for free.
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In my case it's because I want to have an "instant email" that is different from my work email.
As far as I can tell you can only synchronize to one exchange server/account. So I want to synch my contacts, tasks, calendar with my work exchange account but have a separate "email that I receive instantly" account just for my keitai (so don't want to synchronize email with my exchange, want to synch it with a completely different account). Seems like MMS is the only way I can do this...
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In my case it's because I want to have an "instant email" that is different from my work email.
As far as I can tell you can only synchronize to one exchange server/account. So I want to synch my contacts, tasks, calendar with my work exchange account but have a separate "email that I receive instantly" account just for my keitai (so don't want to synchronize email with my exchange, want to synch it with a completely different account). Seems like MMS is the only way I can do this...
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What is stopping you from making a new email with Gmail or your own ISP, then just use that account for Pushmail? so then you will have 2 different emails. I would think that outlook on the X01ht would have the ability to make mulituple accounts so that you can recieve email for pushmail and another just a pop3 for your company mail.
Now I see the light and figured out that there is no difference except the email name. Pushmail and MMS is somewhat the same, I am setting up my pushmail account with austin since I don't think my emails are that important unless he would like to come to Japan and meet my friends.
But I guess I will have to wait for a reply to see if he will accept my signup.
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What is stopping you from making a new email with Gmail or your own ISP, then just use that account for Pushmail? so then you will have 2 different emails. I would think that outlook on the X01ht would have the ability to make mulituple accounts so that you can recieve email for pushmail and another just a pop3 for your company mail.
Now I see the light and figured out that there is no difference except the email name. Pushmail and MMS is somewhat the same, I am setting up my pushmail account with austin since I don't think my emails are that important unless he would like to come to Japan and meet my friends.
But I guess I will have to wait for a reply to see if he will accept my signup.
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awh_tokyo wants to use two realtime-delivery email accounts at the same time. if he uses outlook email for his company echange server, he cannot use outlook email for direct push. i suppose mms is the only way as he already knows.
(not trying to be *****y, but i am glad i can breathe without checking my email for more than 30 min.)
No, I think you're missing the scenario. Push mail is great in places where it's a pain to make a phone call. For example, in the subway when you're trying to figure out where you meet up with everybody.
I don't want my work mail mixing with the really high priority stuff from friends/family that I want to be able to interrupt me.
But what's still not answered, is how can you get Softbank to provision you an email address for this thing? Or are there server settings you can use in MMS composer to get an address? Buying another phone just to get an email assigned SIM seems ridiculous.
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But what's still not answered, is how can you get Softbank to provision you an email address for this thing? Or are there server settings you can use in MMS composer to get an address? Buying another phone just to get an email assigned SIM seems ridiculous.
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You can set up the right proxy settings and User-Agent string in NetFront Browser so that it will let you on to the Vodafone Live site (or whatever it's called now). Then you just go into "email settings" and setup your new address.
That's how I did it. Suppose you could also find someone with a Softbank phone and put your SIM card in it...
- awh
register softbank mms email
https://www.email.softbank.ne.jp/
zafran77 thank you for that information, I went there but I couldn't access that page. I just used my girlfriends phone to change my address but then there is no point in that since MMS Composer is useless when it comes to receiving MMS'. I don't know why I still have it on my phone, 90% of the time it doesn't work.
MMS Resender
There seems to be a new program that works in tandem with the MMS Composer, re-requesting emails that generate the "decode error" so that they (assumedly) will be decoded correctly. I found few links here http://blogs.dion.ne.jp/shapo_ykp/archives/4675352.html
The few blogs I have read (or tried to read, they being in Japanese) sound hopeful that this is a true workaround/solution to the MMS problem.
I would love to try this out myself, but I can't get my hands on a copy of the MMS Composer (used to be attached to this page http://asukal.net/blog/2006/09/mms_client_for_htcz.html but has disappeared) for love or money. Anyone out there who might have that cab sitting around in their recycle bins, please chuck a copy over to larsuck at hotmail dot com and I will give these two programs a whirl.
I'm sure you can find the file somewhere on google.. I've tried the MMS Resender program and it's working so far.. although I do have problems receiving emails from websites such as yahoo.. not quite sure why tho.. but keitai (cellphone) mails seems to be working.. I think the MMS Resender acts as an agent and is used with the MMS Composer..
I used to use MMS only for sending SMSs to my home country using an SMS gateway.. and since this 2 programs seems to work with MMSs written in Japanese, I'll be using MMS for the normal mails from now on (used Gmail for this up til now)
Getting a weird behavior on the EVO with Active Sync.
I remember using it on my Hero with my company's Exchange server a while back, and everything worked.
With the EVO I can get e-mails, push works great, but when sending an e-mail I'm running into a weird issue.
Immediately after hitting send, the phone will complain that the message could not be sent. "Unable to send e-mail" or something like that.
If I go into the Outbox I can see that the e-mail is there. The phone will flash the message every few seconds, meaning it's trying and failing.
The strange part is, the e-mails are actually going through. The first time this happened my e-mail was sent to a work distribution list 15 times before I realized what was going on and deleted the e-mail from the Outbox.
That was with stock ROM and no mods. Today I tried sending an e-mail after rooting the EVO and using Damagecontrol ROM. The issue is still there. I can reproduce the problem just by sending an e-mail, it will be in the Outbox, will go through over and over until I delete it from the Outbox.
It seems like the phone is not getting confirmation from the Exchange server (or ActiveSync rather) that the message is getting sent properly.
I'm not sure exactly how ActiveSync pushes the sent e-mails back to Exchange. It uses the same SSL connection used for push and sync, but does it put it in the Outbox and then try to sync that folder with the server and the server is supposed to delete it from the Outbox once it is sent?
The sent e-mails are showing up in my Sent Items folder, every single one, so if I got 5 copies in my test, I will find 5 sent e-mails in the Sent Items folder.
Weird
I would talk with your IT dept and find out if there are any other smartphone users having the same issue (and if so, which platform), or if yours is an isolated case. I would also try synching your Exchange mailbox with a different android device (and then a different platform) to see if you can replicate the problem; you can also try synching someone else's mailbox on your device.
I don't have a solution for you, as I've never heard of this happening on any smartphone platform.
However, start with basic troubleshooting and you should be able to narrow down the source of the problem.
I am having the same exact issue!!!! Finally someone I can relate with. I have tried everything and no other users on my Exchange server are having this problem.
I have downloaded Moxier Mail from the market and I am using that just for the email and it works fine but I would really love to get this resolved.
Someone help!!!!
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I would talk with your IT dept and find out if there are any other smartphone users having the same issue (and if so, which platform), or if yours is an isolated case. I would also try synching your Exchange mailbox with a different android device (and then a different platform) to see if you can replicate the problem; you can also try synching someone else's mailbox on your device.
I don't have a solution for you, as I've never heard of this happening on any smartphone platform.
However, start with basic troubleshooting and you should be able to narrow down the source of the problem.
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Thanks khov07. I have talked to my IT guy. I did try to configure the account on my Hero last night and got the exact same issue. Most of the users here use their iPhone's without a problem.
Now that I have found that the Hero has the same issue, I will go back to my IT guy and we'll try and see if we can find anything useful in our Exchange logs.
Since there are barely any configuration options in the e-mail client, it all probably boils down to a communication issue between the server and the client. Hopefully we'll be able to find the problem and correct it.
Edit: There's another user that has a Moment, I'm not sure if he uses ActiveSync on it, but I'll check with him to see if he has any issues.
Co-worker with the Moment can send e-mails without a problem, but he uses Moxier. So there's something going on between the HTC Mail App and the Exchange server.
OP, I would ask a co-worker if you could borrow their phone (or perhaps your IT dept has a spare for testing) that is non-Android and try synching your mailbox to that device, see if the problem resurfaces.
Finally, take a look at those Exchange logs. You may be limited, however, based on the version of Exchange your enterprise is running, i.e., 2007 vs 2003. Exchange 2007 has significant improvements in mobile device management over 2003.
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OP, I would ask a co-worker if you could borrow their phone (or perhaps your IT dept has a spare for testing) that is non-Android and try synching your mailbox to that device, see if the problem resurfaces.
Finally, take a look at those Exchange logs. You may be limited, however, based on the version of Exchange your enterprise is running, i.e., 2007 vs 2003. Exchange 2007 has significant improvements in mobile device management over 2003.
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That's a good idea. Would rule out a problem with my account.
We do use 2007, we could never get this running on 2003.
Thanks
OP: Let us know your progress, as someone has reported the same issue on this thread. I myself am interested in knowing the root cause.
I am still having the issue and would love a resolution.
Thanks in advance,
Well something is definitely f'd up with the ActiveSync client that HTC includes.
I have just put Froyo (EvolutionV8) on my Evo and configured my exchange account on it. I can send e-mail without any problems.
Some Exchange servers have the issue, as most users are not having any problems, but the few of us that are will probably keep having the problem. I haven't had much time to do any troubleshooting on this.
It's good to hear the the issue isn't on Froyo, but I think the HTC Mail client has some extra security features that I would like to take advantage of. I was hoping the recent update would solve the problem, but no such luck. Maybe when the 2.2 official HTC update is released it will fix the problem.
same problem here
I have the same issue on send and rcv, send usually works ok, but checking mail just goes over and over till exch server stops trying. Bugs the hell out of me, im running exch 2007 from 1and1. Would be nice to find a fix to this.
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same issue here people, on a HTC Wildfire with 2.1 original FW.
sucks...
I have the same issue with exchange and the old touchdown. 6.2 touchdown fixed it for me. must be an exchange update that messed everything up for htc
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2.2 includes some additional security features not present in 2.1, such as PIN security enforcement.
I have noticed many ActiveSync issues can be cleared up by wiping out the synch on the device, AND wiping out the local cache on your device. I usually see issues with Droids (all three) synching to Exchange - contacts don't show up, or calendars don't populate, etc.
Also, check to see if your exchange account is synched with any other devices. I have also seen odd issues with synching when your mailbox already has a device partnership with a WinMo device. If it does, delete all of them (server-side), wipe out the account on your phone, wipe out the local cache, reboot, wait 15 minutes, and try again.
Evo's should synch just fine with Exchange.