woot! my first post and i am happy to say that i am at a cafe writing this on my x01ht from softbank.
question:
does any one know any other mms programs that I can use besides arcsoft program. The program itself is good but when recieving mms it just doesn't decode the messege. Being in Japan mms is widely used and there is no real point if messaging if I can only use sms. SMS here is pretty much useless because of the length and pictures that people send here.
My phone is great but just missing that complete mms option. any help would be appreciated m__m at the moment I will try anything.
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^thank you for your reply^
So I am at work in Tokyo and still no solution to the problem. I know that there is Arcsoft, It works but only half the time with short messages. But really it's used to recieve short messages across networks and that's about it.
MMS composer doesn't really do what it's suppose to do, some one in the forum said that it has problems but no one has found the solution. Getting my girlfriend to find one through Japanese sites is a task and the solution points to the same problems.
Decoding error and can't recieve multimedia, I think the program is a waste of space honestly.
But is there any other alternatives?
Can I edit the program to make it recieve the error decoded message? It would be nice to know who sent the mms so I can reply and tell them that they would have to email it to my work email.
Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your question, but how did you get an email address for MMS from Softbank? They keep telling me that you can't get one for the X01HT. Thanks
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^thank you for your reply^
So I am at work in Tokyo and still no solution to the problem. I know that there is Arcsoft, It works but only half the time with short messages. But really it's used to recieve short messages across networks and that's about it.
MMS composer doesn't really do what it's suppose to do, some one in the forum said that it has problems but no one has found the solution. Getting my girlfriend to find one through Japanese sites is a task and the solution points to the same problems.
Decoding error and can't recieve multimedia, I think the program is a waste of space honestly.
But is there any other alternatives?
Can I edit the program to make it recieve the error decoded message? It would be nice to know who sent the mms so I can reply and tell them that they would have to email it to my work email.
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pls ignore my first comment if you have read it.
anyway, the decode issue has not been solved with MMS composer as lond as i know. i suppose it is simply a matter of time that s/b will provide software for mms. however, i don't really see a point in using mms with a device with which you can use push mail and pop3 mail for free.
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Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your question, but how did you get an email address for MMS from Softbank? They keep telling me that you can't get one for the X01HT. Thanks
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s/b just says you cannot use mms with x01ht. if you put your sim in another s/b phone and set up mms, you will get an addrees, won't you?
i see ...
thanks qtotter for the quick and swift answer ^-^ ill wait around for something to happen i guess
What i acually did was installed the software for the mms composer, then i just emailed out to my gmail account. It works sometimes sending long emails but as for just a test I just sent a 1 character mail.
My email address is garbage like [email protected] but it does work only if the mms composer works. I also couldn't figure out how setup the portal to change my email address but i guess that will come later when i fix this mms problem.
i still don't understand about pushmail. has something to do with setting up your own server at home, is that right? if i could get pushmail to work it would be nice.
sorry if i have bad grammar mistakes im writting this on the train home
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i still don't understand about pushmail. has something to do with setting up your own server at home, is that right? if i could get pushmail to work it would be nice.
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direct push mail is something like mms. there are a couple of ways to use this function.
1) use free server (http://www.mail2web.com/)
very easy. you cannot use your existing email address with this free service.
2) have your own exchange server (unrealistic for most people)
you can do whatever you want, but it is a little too expense for personal use.
3) use emoze (http://www.emoze.com)
seems popular. you have to have your home pc always on.
once again thanks
Now I'm at home chilling in front of my computer while I ponder about my phone bill because I am still using my old phone. I'm in a transition at the moment with my phones. Once qtotter mentioned about the Pushmail I started to search the site for some information. Some person has a free server and I'm thinking if that is a good thing to do, to put my messages a strangers server.
Thanks for the information once again, I will do my research before heading in a direction.
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however, i don't really see a point in using mms with a device with which you can use push mail and pop3 mail for free.
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In my case it's because I want to have an "instant email" that is different from my work email.
As far as I can tell you can only synchronize to one exchange server/account. So I want to synch my contacts, tasks, calendar with my work exchange account but have a separate "email that I receive instantly" account just for my keitai (so don't want to synchronize email with my exchange, want to synch it with a completely different account). Seems like MMS is the only way I can do this...
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In my case it's because I want to have an "instant email" that is different from my work email.
As far as I can tell you can only synchronize to one exchange server/account. So I want to synch my contacts, tasks, calendar with my work exchange account but have a separate "email that I receive instantly" account just for my keitai (so don't want to synchronize email with my exchange, want to synch it with a completely different account). Seems like MMS is the only way I can do this...
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What is stopping you from making a new email with Gmail or your own ISP, then just use that account for Pushmail? so then you will have 2 different emails. I would think that outlook on the X01ht would have the ability to make mulituple accounts so that you can recieve email for pushmail and another just a pop3 for your company mail.
Now I see the light and figured out that there is no difference except the email name. Pushmail and MMS is somewhat the same, I am setting up my pushmail account with austin since I don't think my emails are that important unless he would like to come to Japan and meet my friends.
But I guess I will have to wait for a reply to see if he will accept my signup.
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What is stopping you from making a new email with Gmail or your own ISP, then just use that account for Pushmail? so then you will have 2 different emails. I would think that outlook on the X01ht would have the ability to make mulituple accounts so that you can recieve email for pushmail and another just a pop3 for your company mail.
Now I see the light and figured out that there is no difference except the email name. Pushmail and MMS is somewhat the same, I am setting up my pushmail account with austin since I don't think my emails are that important unless he would like to come to Japan and meet my friends.
But I guess I will have to wait for a reply to see if he will accept my signup.
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awh_tokyo wants to use two realtime-delivery email accounts at the same time. if he uses outlook email for his company echange server, he cannot use outlook email for direct push. i suppose mms is the only way as he already knows.
(not trying to be *****y, but i am glad i can breathe without checking my email for more than 30 min.)
No, I think you're missing the scenario. Push mail is great in places where it's a pain to make a phone call. For example, in the subway when you're trying to figure out where you meet up with everybody.
I don't want my work mail mixing with the really high priority stuff from friends/family that I want to be able to interrupt me.
But what's still not answered, is how can you get Softbank to provision you an email address for this thing? Or are there server settings you can use in MMS composer to get an address? Buying another phone just to get an email assigned SIM seems ridiculous.
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But what's still not answered, is how can you get Softbank to provision you an email address for this thing? Or are there server settings you can use in MMS composer to get an address? Buying another phone just to get an email assigned SIM seems ridiculous.
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You can set up the right proxy settings and User-Agent string in NetFront Browser so that it will let you on to the Vodafone Live site (or whatever it's called now). Then you just go into "email settings" and setup your new address.
That's how I did it. Suppose you could also find someone with a Softbank phone and put your SIM card in it...
- awh
register softbank mms email
https://www.email.softbank.ne.jp/
zafran77 thank you for that information, I went there but I couldn't access that page. I just used my girlfriends phone to change my address but then there is no point in that since MMS Composer is useless when it comes to receiving MMS'. I don't know why I still have it on my phone, 90% of the time it doesn't work.
MMS Resender
There seems to be a new program that works in tandem with the MMS Composer, re-requesting emails that generate the "decode error" so that they (assumedly) will be decoded correctly. I found few links here http://blogs.dion.ne.jp/shapo_ykp/archives/4675352.html
The few blogs I have read (or tried to read, they being in Japanese) sound hopeful that this is a true workaround/solution to the MMS problem.
I would love to try this out myself, but I can't get my hands on a copy of the MMS Composer (used to be attached to this page http://asukal.net/blog/2006/09/mms_client_for_htcz.html but has disappeared) for love or money. Anyone out there who might have that cab sitting around in their recycle bins, please chuck a copy over to larsuck at hotmail dot com and I will give these two programs a whirl.
I'm sure you can find the file somewhere on google.. I've tried the MMS Resender program and it's working so far.. although I do have problems receiving emails from websites such as yahoo.. not quite sure why tho.. but keitai (cellphone) mails seems to be working.. I think the MMS Resender acts as an agent and is used with the MMS Composer..
I used to use MMS only for sending SMSs to my home country using an SMS gateway.. and since this 2 programs seems to work with MMSs written in Japanese, I'll be using MMS for the normal mails from now on (used Gmail for this up til now)
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Hi all,
I just got my MDA yesterday and have been messing around with it ever since.
Anyways, I just have a quick question for those who have more than 1 email account setup through their phones. See I have 2-3 emails I use, plus one for school. I have them setup as messages (on the mda) and my school account through outlook (I couldn't set it up through the mda to work, because of security features). The way I have it setup works, but I am looking for a better way to put all of them into one area, but at the same time all the messages from each account distinguished nicely. If there is such a way please share the knowledge.
Thanx
I use the T-Mobile mail trigger service.....this is in the US though....
Yea I'm in the US too. What exactly is T-moblie email trigger?
thanx
It is a small app origianlly from the 6315 phone on TMO. I would guess it is on the MDA, too. It sends an invisible text that triggers the phone to login and download email. It makes it look like a slow push email system I don't think it will let me post because of the size. Google it, I'm sure you will find a download for it.
Your email is then setup on the TMO myemail site and those are the settings you use in the messaging app. I think there is a limit of 4 or 5 on the PDA, I only use two so I don't know.
Don't know a way around the security on your school email. Perhaps post the Outlook settings and someone here could post how to set it up on the mobile.
The built-in is far from perfect, but it will work for you.
Is it the MyEmail already installed on the phone? Because everytime I try to set it up it says I need T-Zone, do you guys have T-Zone?
www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
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thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
Hello,
My MDA is set up to grab my exchange email, etc over the air through activesync. When I set up the account on the MDA, the setup wizard told me that I could set the account to grab new messages as they arrive. That of course sounds great so I chose that option.
Anyway, occasionally (not always) when I receive a new message on the exchange account, I get a text message silmultaneously with the same from address and subject as the new exchange email that arrived. I assume that "directpush" works by sending out these texts to trigger an activesync. However, as I mentioned, i don't ALWAYS get these texts. Also, it appears that I occasionally get texts a day after the message arrives in my inbox and even after I know I've read and deleted the message from my MDA.
Regardless of the sporadic nature of the texts, shouldn't the MDA keep them hidden from me? It's a little frustrating having to go thru and delete all these erroneous messages.
Any suggestions as to how I can clean this mess up?
First you need to provide more information.
What Rom are you using?
Only AKU 2.x Roms support Direct Push and then you need to have the correct version of Exchange Server (I think 2k5 sp2).
Direct Push does not use SMS but rather a heartbeat via GPRS.
I believe the old version of AS with Exchange Server used SMS (1.x Roms).
Thanks for the response.
I'm using xelencin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53300
I have "direct push" turned on via the comm mgr. My office uses exchange 2k3, not sure what service pack. I don't believe there is such a thing as 2k5.
I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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The thing is, it works. I get mesages delivered to my phone nearly instantly. However, my SMS box is full of useless crap and this dilutes the usefullness of SMS in general.
That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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Ok, that makes sense. I'll get a hold of the exchange admin weds and see if he can do anything for me.
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
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pmow said:
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
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Interesting. I removed the relationship from activesync (activesync basically now asks me to set up sync with a pc or exchange server), but I'm still getting the texts. Sometimes, I'm getting duplicate texts. They're all coming from "701" if that helps.
HALP!
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This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
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Is there anyway for me to check the version of exchange as a user?
Ya, the SMS thing is a concern for me. I had to sign up for a text plan on tmobile so that I don't end up oweing a fortune at the end of the month!
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
Also, I just re set up my exchange OTA active sync. I get a "pop up" saying that I can synch as items arrive. When I go into "schedule", there's a link there to set that up which then asks for "Text messaging address for this device". Previously, I put in [email protected] which seems to work, but maybe I need to enter it differently some how?
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
I have an idea.
It appears that even the new versions of exchange have the feature "AUTD" which does the SMS message triggered update. I set up the exchange account for "auto update" 2 times now, but haven't set it up a 3rd. Is it possible that when the user configures the auto update feature, it triggers the AUTD sms messaging bit on the server? Since I've done it twice, I'm now getting two sms messages per incoming email. However, previously, when i had pocket outlook configured to handle the auto-update bit, it was concealing one of the two identical SMS's, but not the other.
I'm sure I explained this horribly, but it was worth a shot.
Not sure why I didn't notice this earlier...
I'm getting texts related to ALL of my email accounts configured on the device. This includes the exchange account mentioned earlier, but also two GMAIL accounts. For what it's worth, I set these two gmail accounts up through the tmobile set up wizard and later deleted the accounts from the device in an attempt to test things out. When the accounts were setup, they seemed to be grabbing the mail through a tmobile proxy or something instead of directly from the gmail servers.
No idea why I'm getting these messages, but this is getting crazy!
Stranger and stranger! I think that I would contact T-Mobile asap and cancel that SMS. I personally have never had any need for Texting, etc but people have different needs.
What I would start out with is to hard reset the phone after syncing it. Then I'd delete the partnership with AS. I'd setup my Exchange by installing your Exchange server's Security Certificate on your device(which you should keep on your SD card), configuring the AS on the device, never connecting to the PC. Wait a while to setup your GMail accounts, etc. ... one step at a time.
Good luck!
Steven
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RESOLVED!
Ok, I think I figured it out.
T-mobile apparently uses these text messages to trigger email synchs.
I logged into my tmobile account and decided to pay attention to the "t-zones" section for the first time. "Setup My E-Mail" takes you to a page that allows you to configure email accounts for your device. It also allows you to check your email for those accounts. Anyway, there's an "Alerts" section that you can configure and it appears to relate to these texts that I've been receiving. Even my exchange account was configured here and was setup to send the text messages.
Additionally, it appears that I wasn't being charged for the texts. None of them have shown up in my online bill.
I believe that ALL of this was the result of using the tmobile email setup wizard that's included on the phone xelencin's cooked rom.
Whew, I feel like I've solved a puzzle.
Good for you! Makes sense now...
I've never run that email wizard myself, always manually create the accounts.
Steven
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So I work for a Company and we use email pretty regularly to communicate.
I am a store manager and the company is really **** about letting us set up to recieve emails to our phones. We use Microsoft outlook and it is an intranet bassed email service (I cant email my store or other stores from an outside email, it has to be from a store location). I have tried to creat a rule to have them forwarded but they dont forward.
I figured this is were some of the greatest and able bodies are, anybody have a solution? I'm just trying to get the stores email forwarded to my gmail account so I dont miss stuff on my days off. Anybody have any ideas??
Hope this is the correct forum for this
Well if your using outlook at your store, why don't you create a new account in your pocket outlook with your account info. You can find all of it in your settings, then set it to recieve at certain times only.
OR
There is an option to forward an email to an account once recieved. I'm using Outlook '07 so my setup may be a bit different but most outlook versions should have the same options. If you still can't find the rule setup for it just let me know.
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So I work for a Company and we use email pretty regularly to communicate.
I am a store manager and the company is really **** about letting us set up to recieve emails to our phones. We use Microsoft outlook and it is an intranet bassed email service (I cant email my store or other stores from an outside email, it has to be from a store location). I have tried to creat a rule to have them forwarded but they dont forward.
I figured this is were some of the greatest and able bodies are, anybody have a solution? I'm just trying to get the stores email forwarded to my gmail account so I dont miss stuff on my days off. Anybody have any ideas??
Hope this is the correct forum for this
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Well, there are a few things that come to mind.....
I am a District Manager for a restaurant chain so my first response is to say enjoy our time off
Second, I will probably sound like a jerk but there are reasons that companies limit email access to the physical location of a business, it is much more secure.
Knowing all of that, I personally forward all of my work mail to gmail and use the IMAP access so I do not have to remember if I have checked it or not. I generally get between 30-60 emails a day.
Your email may not be able to be forwarded due to how it is set up. I worked at a place where we did that and the email server we used would not allow an email from the units to be sent to any other domain other than our internal one.
My last thought it that if you are unable to find the email server settings on your own and set your email program on your phone up then you probably should not be messing with it. They are pretty easy to find but you do open your work network up to potential infection of malware or a virus. I know I would get pissed if one of my managers did something like that and caused us to have issues. Beware that they can and do track which IP addresses connect to the email server though.
-asb
Thanks guys,
I appreciate the help. I have put a rule in outlook to forward them to my gmail but it doesnt work.
Believe me, i understand the reason for limiting the location to the stores for email access. I do know that its definately possible because a couple area managers and my DM have it to their phone. I'm honestly not trying to deceitful, and I do enjoy my time off, but I have issues where i dont get important emails so i just wanted to forward them..
I didnt think about setting it up in the phone, i'm going to look into that. Where would i find the settings at in outlook? I know that I using it through my INTRANET and i use outlook through web access, so there isnt a "tools" tab that i can go into to get settings.
I'm going to play around with it.
Thanks again
Well.. some thoughts about the access...
If you you use web access then you know the server address already.
I would start off using the url as the pop3 access.
I'm replying from my phone but I will put up a mini guide later.
-asb
mrmikemcguire said:
Thanks guys,
I appreciate the help. I have put a rule in outlook to forward them to my gmail but it doesnt work.
Believe me, i understand the reason for limiting the location to the stores for email access. I do know that its definately possible because a couple area managers and my DM have it to their phone. I'm honestly not trying to deceitful, and I do enjoy my time off, but I have issues where i dont get important emails so i just wanted to forward them..
I didnt think about setting it up in the phone, i'm going to look into that. Where would i find the settings at in outlook? I know that I using it through my INTRANET and i use outlook through web access, so there isnt a "tools" tab that i can go into to get settings.
I'm going to play around with it.
Thanks again
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Can you create and send a new email to the Gmail account you are trying to forward these messages to? If you cannot then you must first find out if your network is blocking Gmail or if it is a routing issue. If you can successfully send an email to the Gmail account then the problem is merely in the settings of outlook (insert any email client here).
Almost always the outlook application must remain running for the rules to be honored. Creating and managing rules can be tricky. Make sure there are no stop processing rules entries prior to the forward all email rule you created. Also make sure there is not a stop rule in the forwarding rule or any after it will fail as well.
Ok, you said that you use outlook web access to check your email in your location. I would take a look at the url in the address bar. That will most likely be your access point that you will use later.
If you are on an intranet though you might be out of luck.
For example, one company I worked for had things set up like this:
Intranet with everyone having an ip address of 10.10.10.***.
We had an internal DNS server to resolve our intranet based web site and our email server.
Our email server was 10.10.10.101
Our internal web server was 10.10.10.102
Now, for outside access, we had an external IP that was something like 12.225.125.188.
If you only access your email from on the intranet (not INTERNET) then you need to find out the external IP address. You might be able to get it from a higher up but most likely you will be shot down.
Now, for simplicity sake, how about either letting the people at your location check email and call you if something major is going on email wise or just call them a few times each day?
Without the magic numbers (external IP) you won't be able to get access no matter what you try. There is also the remote possibility that the higher ups with access on their phones are using blackberries and the service associated with that or a VPN solution to get on the work intranet.
With out physically looking at the numbers and the set up it would be hard to figure out all of the details so my post is just full of WAG (wild ass guesses).
Just to finish it up, think about this...
Deliberately trying to circumvent your networks protections even accessing email against your companies policies can put you in not only work related trouble but also legal trouble.
-asb
Appreciate the help. I figured if the process wasnt to intracate I would set it up. Appears that it's more trouble than what it's worth.
I recently updated my ROM from o2 stock 1.43 to stock 1.72. Since then I've been unable to set-up my Hotmail account. This has been doing my head in for a few days now, I've searched the forum but can't find anything that's relevant.
Here's my problem step by step: I select Add mail account then other, as Hotmail isn't listed. I then enter my e-mail address & password and click next. What happens next has never happened before when I've tried to set my hotmail account up from within a phone and has left me bewildered??
My Opera 10 browser now launches and takes me to the online Hotmail website??? WTF!!! After exiting the opera browser, I return back to the add mail account screen and I'm promptly back at square one?
Any help/ advice would be much appreciated.
Thx.
can you not input the settings for smtp, imap, pop3 etc manually???? im not sure which hotmail uses hence why i mentioned them all.
There is a few threads about hotmail mate
I wouldn't bother setting it though Sense...
Open Windows live and do it from there......
If you must then you will need mail.live.com. that is they worked for me the last time I set it though Sense...
I do have one question for HTC... Why the F**k are you selling a windows device that doesn't have the hotmail setting in Sense???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Oh you may want to update your version of Windows Live from the Marketplace
Demon_man said:
can you not input the settings for smtp, imap, pop3 etc manually???? im not sure which hotmail uses hence why i mentioned them all.
There is a few threads about hotmail mate
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Thx for the reply.
I've tried to input the settings manually but after entering my e-mail address, password and clicking manual set-up the same thing happens i.e opera browser fires up and takes me to the web based Hotmail???
give Neville.Holland reply a go, I no that works
Neville.Holland said:
I wouldn't bother setting it though Sense...
Open Windows live and do it from there......
If you must then you will need mail.live.com. that is they worked for me the last time I set it though Sense...
I do have one question for HTC... Why the F**k are you selling a windows device that doesn't have the hotmail setting in Sense???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Oh you may want to update your version of Windows Live from the Marketplace
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Thx for the reply.
I'm not even given the opportunity to enter any settings manually as soon as I've entered my address and password and either clicked manual setup or the next button, my opera browser launches and takes me to the web based hotmail.
I totally agree with you that the Hotmail setting should be on the phone.
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give Neville.Holland reply a go, I no that works
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But I've setup my Hotmail account previously on this phone (HD2) via the Add Mail Account screen and never had any problems up until now.
Thanks for the suggestion tho', I may need to try that.
Can anyone help with this please? It's seriously doing my head in!
Me too, but I've fixed it
Hi,
I had the same problem when updating OS, what previously was a simple task became impossible, and as for taking me to the website, WTF barely covers it!
The answer is in the post from Neville.Holland, simply re-install 'Windows Live' from Marketplace and obey all the instructions, once the 'old WL' is removed and the phone restarts you'll find 'hotmail' is there in your list of email accounts as it was before...
Hooray
when inputing the email address at the start, just misspell it (notmail.con for instance) which prevents the wizard recognizing it. fill in all the rest of the details manually, then save it, then edit it and correct the address.
That's a weird problem, but sam's suggestion should definitely work. If not give provisioning a try. Just look around XDA and you'll figure it out.
Budski GB said:
Hi,
I had the same problem when updating OS, what previously was a simple task became impossible, and as for taking me to the website, WTF barely covers it!
The answer is in the post from Neville.Holland, simply re-install 'Windows Live' from Marketplace and obey all the instructions, once the 'old WL' is removed and the phone restarts you'll find 'hotmail' is there in your list of email accounts as it was before...
Hooray
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thats the right answer
i had the same problem mine was a hotmail.co.uk address. so i entered it in sense as hotmail.com it then took me to the live log in screen where i changed it to hotmail.co.uk it then saved that and synced all my emails and left them all working fine on sense.
Manual Hotmail Email Setup
samsamuel is right on! Hope I'm not raising the dead post here, just thought I can up some details for reference on manually setting up a hotmail email account as lots of light roms are without the windows live package (it's not quite a small install and it needs to reside on the device) and I've read through and met some probs on my own when installing the cabs...
So as samsamuel said, just mistype the "@hotmail.com" part when you set up your hotmail account manually in Messages. You'll skip the windows live wizard (which I don't even have installed anymore). Here are the settings that worked for me (diamond on wm 6.5):
Incoming mail server: pop3.live.com:995
Account type: pop3
Outgoing (smtp) mail server: smtp.live.com:25
CHECKED "outgoing server requires authentication"
CHECKED "use the same user name and password for sending e-mail"
Under "advance server settings": CHECK BOTH "require SSL for Incoming AND Outgoing email"
After all that, right before it starts to sync, just stop send/receive and go back to the account setting and fix the mistyped "@hotmail.com" earlier.
That's what worked for me; incoming and outgoing tested. And I'm not sure about this, but for people who want to sync more than the 50 email limit (when you setup via windows live), you might be able to do it by setting the period of download to "from the past 30 days" or I guess "all messages". I don't have that many emails as I don't use hotmail that much so you better try it out if you're interested (it might take some time to sync though if you have lots of emails... so 3g or wifi it).
thanks for the help, samsamuel!