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4smartphone.net Exchange Server Service

Greetings all,
I upgraded my 8125 to the Qtek ROM via summiter's ROM upgrade tool, (worked perfectly, thanks summiter!) and I enabled push email.
Since I didnt have and Exchange server, I signed up for one with 4smartphone.net after reading about them in PocketPC Mag. Anyone use them? there's a 15 day trial, but they couldnt get my account setup right after calling them 3 times and about 4 hours wait, then it seemed to work, push email worked great..
Now this morning, they're server is unresponsive again.. jsut wondering if anyone uses them and what their experiance with them is.. i'm not to happy with them right now..

I would also be interested in this. I need to find a good shared exchange provider and I am thinking about going with Intermedia.net.

I wasn't happy with the response I got on a pre-sales query. So I used 1and1.co.uk instead.
They provide push mail (but don't list it) and support a multi-domain email. The only down side is that they don't provide spam filtering. But I figured out how to block it (spam) via filtering.

fowen said:
I would also be interested in this. I need to find a good shared exchange provider and I am thinking about going with Intermedia.net.
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I have been using 4smartphone for about a month w/o difficulty -- I use Outlook rules to send copies of all my office mail to 4smartphone which then pushes them to my k-jam. Only negative in this is that all the msg. come in with my name and address as the sender (no prob changing this if I use reply but it is an extra step). Service is quite fast and so far w/o problems in either direction.

well, just got an email from them about the server outage, with them profusely apologising.. at least they're letting their customers know about it..
another thing i didnt really like is you have to pay for a full year up front.. although right now i'm diggin' the fact that i get push email(tested i get an email within 15 seconds of it being sent), and also that my Outlook on my laptop and my 8125 are fully synced.. if i read it on my 8125, it's listed as read on my laptop and vice versa, so i dont have to re-read anything or whatever.. pretty slick.. they also sync contacts, tasks, calendar, etc too..
they have a 15 day trial, so im gonna give it another week or so and see how it goes..

Just signed up for this at mail2 web. I used to use them ages ago just to check a couple of pop3 accounts at work, but they are doing a beta of a free hosted Exchange service. Even better is that you can get a personal Exchange account for $1.99 a month. You need to create an email address with them, but you can link other pop3 accounts to it as well.
http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/

What I like about 4smartphone.net is that when you send mail through them, it will show as your own pre-set email address and not [email protected].
I just finished the trial and signed up for their Express service. I think you can get your money back (pro rata) if you cancel before your subscription expires.
I was considering 1and1.co.uk or 1and1.com too, but couldn't be asked to change all the settings.

I've been using 4smartphone since January and so far I am very happy with them. I have sent about 4 emails to tech support and I received responses within a few hours and they were very helpful. They even verified that my account switched from SMS notification to direct push when I asked (after I upgraded).

I really like using them, so much so that I got the company I work for to sign up with 4smartphone. There are a total of 9 people at my work. Great customer service and a great price.

I just setup a mail2web account and had some problems getting either the txt message based push to work or the direct push to work.
After I contacted them they told me this functionality hasn't been installed and will be done over the next week.

good service
I used 4smartphone when i was working from my office at home and the service was good. I am in a 30+ staff office now and we use Intermedia which is great to. I've got my email set up on my blackberry and you can check your email through outlook on the web which is convenient as well.

Receiving text messages related to ALL of my email accounts

Hello,
My MDA is set up to grab my exchange email, etc over the air through activesync. When I set up the account on the MDA, the setup wizard told me that I could set the account to grab new messages as they arrive. That of course sounds great so I chose that option.
Anyway, occasionally (not always) when I receive a new message on the exchange account, I get a text message silmultaneously with the same from address and subject as the new exchange email that arrived. I assume that "directpush" works by sending out these texts to trigger an activesync. However, as I mentioned, i don't ALWAYS get these texts. Also, it appears that I occasionally get texts a day after the message arrives in my inbox and even after I know I've read and deleted the message from my MDA.
Regardless of the sporadic nature of the texts, shouldn't the MDA keep them hidden from me? It's a little frustrating having to go thru and delete all these erroneous messages.
Any suggestions as to how I can clean this mess up?

First you need to provide more information.
What Rom are you using?
Only AKU 2.x Roms support Direct Push and then you need to have the correct version of Exchange Server (I think 2k5 sp2).
Direct Push does not use SMS but rather a heartbeat via GPRS.
I believe the old version of AS with Exchange Server used SMS (1.x Roms).

Thanks for the response.
I'm using xelencin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53300
I have "direct push" turned on via the comm mgr. My office uses exchange 2k3, not sure what service pack. I don't believe there is such a thing as 2k5.

I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".

kyphur said:
I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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The thing is, it works. I get mesages delivered to my phone nearly instantly. However, my SMS box is full of useless crap and this dilutes the usefullness of SMS in general.

That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.

kyphur said:
That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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Ok, that makes sense. I'll get a hold of the exchange admin weds and see if he can do anything for me.

It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)

This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
Steven
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pmow said:
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
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Interesting. I removed the relationship from activesync (activesync basically now asks me to set up sync with a pc or exchange server), but I'm still getting the texts. Sometimes, I'm getting duplicate texts. They're all coming from "701" if that helps.
HALP!

Dr Puttingham said:
This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
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Is there anyway for me to check the version of exchange as a user?
Ya, the SMS thing is a concern for me. I had to sign up for a text plan on tmobile so that I don't end up oweing a fortune at the end of the month!

That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven

Also, I just re set up my exchange OTA active sync. I get a "pop up" saying that I can synch as items arrive. When I go into "schedule", there's a link there to set that up which then asks for "Text messaging address for this device". Previously, I put in [email protected] which seems to work, but maybe I need to enter it differently some how?

That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven

I have an idea.
It appears that even the new versions of exchange have the feature "AUTD" which does the SMS message triggered update. I set up the exchange account for "auto update" 2 times now, but haven't set it up a 3rd. Is it possible that when the user configures the auto update feature, it triggers the AUTD sms messaging bit on the server? Since I've done it twice, I'm now getting two sms messages per incoming email. However, previously, when i had pocket outlook configured to handle the auto-update bit, it was concealing one of the two identical SMS's, but not the other.
I'm sure I explained this horribly, but it was worth a shot.

Not sure why I didn't notice this earlier...
I'm getting texts related to ALL of my email accounts configured on the device. This includes the exchange account mentioned earlier, but also two GMAIL accounts. For what it's worth, I set these two gmail accounts up through the tmobile set up wizard and later deleted the accounts from the device in an attempt to test things out. When the accounts were setup, they seemed to be grabbing the mail through a tmobile proxy or something instead of directly from the gmail servers.
No idea why I'm getting these messages, but this is getting crazy!

Stranger and stranger! I think that I would contact T-Mobile asap and cancel that SMS. I personally have never had any need for Texting, etc but people have different needs.
What I would start out with is to hard reset the phone after syncing it. Then I'd delete the partnership with AS. I'd setup my Exchange by installing your Exchange server's Security Certificate on your device(which you should keep on your SD card), configuring the AS on the device, never connecting to the PC. Wait a while to setup your GMail accounts, etc. ... one step at a time.
Good luck!
Steven
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RESOLVED!
Ok, I think I figured it out.
T-mobile apparently uses these text messages to trigger email synchs.
I logged into my tmobile account and decided to pay attention to the "t-zones" section for the first time. "Setup My E-Mail" takes you to a page that allows you to configure email accounts for your device. It also allows you to check your email for those accounts. Anyway, there's an "Alerts" section that you can configure and it appears to relate to these texts that I've been receiving. Even my exchange account was configured here and was setup to send the text messages.
Additionally, it appears that I wasn't being charged for the texts. None of them have shown up in my online bill.
I believe that ALL of this was the result of using the tmobile email setup wizard that's included on the phone xelencin's cooked rom.
Whew, I feel like I've solved a puzzle.

Good for you! Makes sense now...
I've never run that email wizard myself, always manually create the accounts.
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Push Gmail Solution

first if id like to say, sorry if the title is misleading
second, im still trying to figure out how to get true directpush gmail on the HD, ive been using wm for 4 years now....but since ive gotten the HD is when the push gmail is really starting to bother me, i mean yes, i can use owa to get my gmail, but its either manual sync, or interval sync. which is not true push mail. ive been able to use my hotmail account for push mail, obviously MS designed it this way that you can use it.
but still cannot find a way through owa or standalone wm to get push gmail
other thoughts here are;
-hotmail is capable of this obviously their parent company created the technology
-blackberry is capable of this because they have their BES server
-third party apps blow, so its not a true solution, i would perfer to have my emails between sender and me, rather than being filtered through by some third party app/company
if anyone has any kind of input or say, please feel free...

no one has a solution?
ive seen that there a lot of people looking at this thread, people have come across this im sure problem/topic, but no one has found a solution to the gmail push?!!

gordonzhao said:
first if id like to say, sorry if the title is misleading
second, im still trying to figure out how to get true directpush gmail on the HD, ive been using wm for 4 years now....but since ive gotten the HD is when the push gmail is really starting to bother me, i mean yes, i can use owa to get my gmail, but its either manual sync, or interval sync. which is not true push mail. ive been able to use my hotmail account for push mail, obviously MS designed it this way that you can use it.
but still cannot find a way through owa or standalone wm to get push gmail
other thoughts here are;
-hotmail is capable of this obviously their parent company created the technology
-blackberry is capable of this because they have their BES server
-third party apps blow, so its not a true solution, i would perfer to have my emails between sender and me, rather than being filtered through by some third party app/company
if anyone has any kind of input or say, please feel free...
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I had the same problem but "solved" it with HD Tweak. Ok solved is the false word for it but it works now.
So what I did is:
1. Start HD Tweak of course
2. Go to point 6.1 (Disconnect After)
3. I set it to 1 Minute or 2 Minutes
4. Save this with OK
After that my gmail works perfect when it always have to connect for a new time to the internet! If you are connected to the internet it won´t work! Crazy but ok what should I do
First I didn´t wanted to use this "disconnect after" option to get my gmail workin. I only wanted to safe battery energy but than I saw that with this disconnecting after 1Minute (on my HD) my gmail is working and syncing all mails correctly to my Touch HD.
Please tell me if it also works on your HD!
Sorry for my bad english

RobbyTouchHD said:
I had the same problem but "solved" it with HD Tweak. Ok solved is the false word for it but it works now.
So what I did is:
1. Start HD Tweak of course
2. Go to point 6.1 (Disconnect After)
3. I set it to 1 Minute or 2 Minutes
4. Save this with OK
After that my gmail works perfect when it always have to connect for a new time to the internet! If you are connected to the internet it won´t work! Crazy but ok what should I do
First I didn´t wanted to use this "disconnect after" option to get my gmail workin. I only wanted to safe battery energy but than I saw that with this disconnecting after 1Minute (on my HD) my gmail is working and syncing all mails correctly to my Touch HD.
Please tell me if it also works on your HD!
Sorry for my bad english
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Sorry wrong answer on your question.....I thougt you have a problem syncing with gmail^^
But your question would be also interesting to me if there is a possibility to have pushmail with gmail.

Im also really interested. I have mine set to sync every hour which is ok but as mentioned, not pushmail at all. In fact it is barbarically pullmail.

I hope this will solve the problem.
WINDOWS LIVE (in your Start-programs-windows live)
1. make account in windows live / hotmail
2. at windows live menu - option, find Sync Schedule
3. choose, from Sync Frequency: as items arrive.
It means, as an email arrive in [email protected]., it will push to your handheld.
Carefull with the battery.
Sorry for my English.

Windows Live Push Email
I hope this will solve the problem.
WINDOWS LIVE (in your Start-programs-windows live)
1. make account in windows live / hotmail
2. at windows live menu - option, find Sync Schedule
3. choose, from Sync Frequency: as items arrive.
It means, as an email arrive in [email protected]., it will push to your handheld.
Carefull with the battery.
Sorry for my English.

gmaryo said:
I hope this will solve the problem.
WINDOWS LIVE (in your Start-programs-windows live)
1. make account in windows live / hotmail
2. at windows live menu - option, find Sync Schedule
3. choose, from Sync Frequency: as items arrive.
It means, as an email arrive in [email protected]., it will push to your handheld.
Carefull with the battery.
Sorry for my English.
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yes im sure everyone knows how to get push hotmail, but thats not the problem, we are looking to get push GMAIL. but thanks for that great tutorial! and the battery isnt a problem. mine still has a good charge with hotmail being pushed, when the phone is in standby it doesnt use that much juice, even when data connection is on, its in a less consuming state
RobbyTouchHD said:
I had the same problem but "solved" it with HD Tweak. Ok solved is the false word for it but it works now.
So what I did is:
1. Start HD Tweak of course
2. Go to point 6.1 (Disconnect After)
3. I set it to 1 Minute or 2 Minutes
4. Save this with OK
After that my gmail works perfect when it always have to connect for a new time to the internet! If you are connected to the internet it won´t work! Crazy but ok what should I do
First I didn´t wanted to use this "disconnect after" option to get my gmail workin. I only wanted to safe battery energy but than I saw that with this disconnecting after 1Minute (on my HD) my gmail is working and syncing all mails correctly to my Touch HD.
Please tell me if it also works on your HD!
Sorry for my bad english
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well i mean i have gmail set up as imap on my hd but its still pullmail, i set it to manually sync, right now i have all my gmail forwarded to my hotmail, i get pushmail from that so, if i do get an email from my gmail account ill know and i can just hit sync on gmail, and reply if i need to, if i dont need to reply its just to read it then. but its not a solution just a temporary fix? waiting on google to release a gmail sync!

Funambol
Try funambol. It's open source and is getting to be a very popular push email solution.

Hi, I tried using the funambol which seems like a good application.However I couldnt get the messages by push.If I manually do 'sync all' I get the messages but not as push mail as and when they arrive.My 3g connection is on and funambol client is also running.Any idea what I am missung.

amitambika said:
Hi, I tried using the funambol which seems like a good application.However I couldnt get the messages by push.If I manually do 'sync all' I get the messages but not as push mail as and when they arrive.My 3g connection is on and funambol client is also running.Any idea what I am missung.
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im a bit hesitant about trying out the program, doesnt sound worth it, i could be wrong. but googled it a bit and found this
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/networking/?p=160
the article is a bit dated, but still. skimmed through it and i think it says all funambol basically sends you a sms? and tells you that you have new mail which means manually having to hit "send/receive" i may be wrong, i didnt read the entirety of the article
but in my opinion still not a true solution, im so eager for google to release a gmail sync, dont let me down google....! waiting for you to release a break through tech for wm users!!

gordonzhao said:
im a bit hesitant about trying out the program, doesnt sound worth it, i could be wrong. but googled it a bit and found this
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/networking/?p=160
the article is a bit dated, but still. skimmed through it and i think it says all funambol basically sends you a sms? and tells you that you have new mail which means manually having to hit "send/receive" i may be wrong, i didnt read the entirety of the article
but in my opinion still not a true solution, im so eager for google to release a gmail sync, dont let me down google....! waiting for you to release a break through tech for wm users!!
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No I waiited for some time and see that it does work but takes 5-10 min to get the mail.You dont have to mnaually do the send/receive.

Hi,
I was also interested in push mail solution for WM and Touch Hd and this is what I found:
http://www.emoze.com/
I downloaded version for htc/other device and installed cab on mobile. After creating an account for gmail, it automaticly created account in outlook. Mails seems to be pushed into my mobile maybe 1 minute after they arrive to gmails inbox, so it sounds like a fair solution. Pls someone check that because it seems too good to be true. Maybe I'm missing something but it seems to be a real push mail solution for gmail and wm. And its free.

Sidewinder_tigs said:
Hi,
I was also interested in push mail solution for WM and Touch Hd and this is what I found:
http://www.emoze.com/
I downloaded version for htc/other device and installed cab on mobile. After creating an account for gmail, it automaticly created account in outlook. Mails seems to be pushed into my mobile maybe 1 minute after they arrive to gmails inbox, so it sounds like a fair solution. Pls someone check that because it seems too good to be true. Maybe I'm missing something but it seems to be a real push mail solution for gmail and wm. And its free.
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I just tested Emoze, and I'm REALLY impressed!
The setup is fast, and easy!
In the settings menu, I get my own language, despite the software being downloaded in English!
Receipt of testmail on my HD after 4 minutes.
Receipt of reply on my Lotus Notes after 30 seconds(!!!).
This is it! I'm not looking any longer

Another alternative is Seven. I've been using it for over a year now and prefer it to emoze. It's still in beta but works great.

well does seven emoze and funambol all enable you to reply with the gmail account name? and its all a separate application correct?
in a way my temporary fix is working for me, pain in the ass but working.....i just prefer not to have a 3rd party program "filter" through my emails, private or not.....
but has anyone received any word on whether googles releasing a gmail sync?

gordonzhao said:
well does seven emoze and funambol all enable you to reply with the gmail account name? and its all a separate application correct?
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I only know Emoze, so:
1. Yap
2. Yap

gordonzhao said:
well does seven emoze and funambol all enable you to reply with the gmail account name? and its all a separate application correct?
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Seven integrates with outlook and runs in the background to deliver emails. When you want to read/reply you use outlook. Any replies sent are from the email address you set up.

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trice1921 said:
Seven integrates with outlook and runs in the background to deliver emails. When you want to read/reply you use outlook. Any replies sent are from the email address you set up.
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Same thing with Emoze.

Push email setup..

Hi
I want to set my THD with Push email rather than the usual send/receive.
But I have a personal email domain hosted by 1&1.com, and when I go to my admin, I can either purchase a Microsoft Exchange license or a 1&1 MailXchange, and both seem to be major collaboration tools for teams of people. I only want for Push for me using my current @arjayweb.net domain. Are there any cheaper options?
My main reason for wanting Push is that I can I currently send/receive every 15 mins, but I've found too many times that emails haven't come through. Sometimes I can watch the 'connecting..' status line and see it go to 'Looking for changes' and then disconnect, but if I manually hit send/receive again, emails come through. If I can solve this, no need for Push..
Any ideas?

hi,on my htc i can change the send/recieve to every 5 mins

Arjay12345 said:
Hi
I want to set my THD with Push email rather than the usual send/receive.
But I have a personal email domain hosted by 1&1.com, and when I go to my admin, I can either purchase a Microsoft Exchange license or a 1&1 MailXchange, and both seem to be major collaboration tools for teams of people. I only want for Push for me using my current @arjayweb.net domain. Are there any cheaper options?
My main reason for wanting Push is that I can I currently send/receive every 15 mins, but I've found too many times that emails haven't come through. Sometimes I can watch the 'connecting..' status line and see it go to 'Looking for changes' and then disconnect, but if I manually hit send/receive again, emails come through. If I can solve this, no need for Push..
Any ideas?
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i've been using 1&1's Exchange Mail for over a year and am very satisfied with the service. i'm using the Exchange service to push my MSN email, it also allows me to use my MSN account as an alias (e.g., sending/receiving using a different email address). although i haven't searched in great detail, i haven't found a hosted Exchange service that provides the features i want (aliased emails, notes, calendar & task synching), 1 GB of space, push mail, ActiveSync, webmail, etc.

Thanks Cortez - couple of questions though:
- I only want my email to be pushed. Don't need synchronising of any other bits. Did you ever find a service that does just that?
- why do you need Activesynch if you have push?
JonPickles70 - one for you too:
-Not sure if you actually have your send/receive set to every 5 mins, but do you find it always manages to connect and download new mails each time it attempts? Like I said before, I have a problem that my phone attempts to connect every 15 mins, but doesn't list any new messages, but when I manually kick-off, new emails come through. Do you (anyone else?) have this problem
Thanks

yes arjay my email which is blueyonder is set for 5 mins and whenever i get an email(i know cause on pc alot 2) it comes straight through within 5 mins at the longest.i also have hotmail which comes through straight away.im on o2 in england with an orange hd which i set up myself with settings i found on webpages after strenious searching http://www.knowyourmobile.com/info/...up_email_and_the_internet_on_your_mobile.html was one site that mite b helpful if ur on one of those networks with those email providers

Are there any ways to enable or simulate "push" email on POP or IMAP accounts?

Are there any ways to enable or simulate "push" email on POP or IMAP accounts?
I need to get frequent updates from my ISP email box. I currently have my HD2 set to poll for new mail every 5 minutes, but this simply murders the battery: it burns 4 or 5% per hour even in stand-by, let alone when I'm actually using it. I've heard that push email is actually more economical than polling every 5 minutes (as the "heartbeat" signals are sent out more rarely and contain less data). Obviously one can enable push email when talking to an Exchange server or to hotmail, but by default there's no way to do it when communicating with a POP or IMAP server. Is there any way to achieve or simulate email push from one of those?
One possibility that I have heard of but know virtually nothing about is a thing called "IMAP Idle" - if anyone wishes to educate me on how it works and how it can be accessed under Windows Mobile, and whether it can actually help, here, then I'm all ears! But any suggestion is welcome.

There are really no push email for Windows Mobile. Only for Iphone.

I'm looking for the same thing.
I found this other thread here which can be what you are looking for.. (oh, I can't post links as I'm new).
Search for the thread called: SchedHandler 1.74 / Scheduler for PUSH EMAIL+Polling/execute/switch/etc
In the windows mobile apps / games subforum.

Use Gmail with the IMAP service and Activesync - this seems to work reasonably effectively as a push email service.

Shasarak,
See this thread...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612644
WB

thenewguy1979 said:
There are really no push email for Windows Mobile. Only for Iphone.
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lol @ the troll

download the windows live program and l
push email is built right in. its very reliable but you have to use your MSN, live.com, or hotmail account though

doctajay said:
download the windows live program and l
push email is built right in. its very reliable but you have to use your MSN, live.com, or hotmail account though
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The built-in Windows Live application does push email very nicely for hotmail - no download needed. But I was asking about POP or IMAP email accounts.

I forward all my POP accounts to gmail and pick them up as they are pushed over ActiveSync. I've tested it by emailing me and my wifes blackberry and its only marginally slower.

Tomo1340 said:
I forward all my POP accounts to gmail and pick them up as they are pushed over ActiveSync. I've tested it by emailing me and my wifes blackberry and its only marginally slower.
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I also tried this; and it worked fine for push email part. However, did you solve the problem of any replies you send coming from the gmail account? Despite trying various "reply from" settings within gmail I couldn't get it to reply as if from the original account.

pnharrison said:
I also tried this; and it worked fine for push email part. However, did you solve the problem of any replies you send coming from the gmail account? Despite trying various "reply from" settings within gmail I couldn't get it to reply as if from the original account.
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There is apparently a way to make gmail send through another account, I can't get it to work.

Same here, I just took the plunge and configured my gmail account for push, and fetching from my 3 usual POP3s. It seems to work pretty well, but the reply email address is indeed always the gmail one even if I set the address to be "address the message was sent to", or even just set another address as default.
Gmail can be a bit slow as well, it seems it checks the POP3 about every 5 mins. Push can take from 30 seconds to 10 minutes. When replying, the outgoing mail appears in the desktop inbox right after the mail was sent from the device, but there can be a delay until it's actually sent out, I tried twice, and once it took 20 mins and the other 2 mins only.
So you'd better not be too stressed, but it definitely beats having to check manually, sometimes 10 times in a row, times 3 accounts, for nothing as there's no new mail...

Hosted Exchange is very affordable and solves all the problems people have with technologies like IMAP4 and POP3, which really are out-dated, and, in the case of IMAP4, not consistently implemented.

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I need to get frequent updates from my ISP email box. I currently have my HD2 set to poll for new mail every 5 minutes, but this simply murders the battery: it burns 4 or 5% per hour even in stand-by, let alone when I'm actually using it. I've heard that push email is actually more economical than polling every 5 minutes (as the "heartbeat" signals are sent out more rarely and contain less data). Obviously one can enable push email when talking to an Exchange server or to hotmail, but by default there's no way to do it when communicating with a POP or IMAP server. Is there any way to achieve or simulate email push from one of those?
One possibility that I have heard of but know virtually nothing about is a thing called "IMAP Idle" - if anyone wishes to educate me on how it works and how it can be accessed under Windows Mobile, and whether it can actually help, here, then I'm all ears! But any suggestion is welcome.
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Yes there is, and is provided by a company called Seven, for free. http://www.seven.com/ . Give it a try.
I use it on my Treo Pro and it works fine. Sign up for a Seven account, download the cab file and configure your POP or IMAP accounts.
**NOTE**
If you're using GMAIL (which is IMAP), Google provides free push for GMAIL via Exchange Activesync (Google Sync, you get push GMAIL, contacts, calendar). Go here http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/

OK, when I logged in to gmail this morning I could see that it was now polling my POP3 only every hour or so. It says it decides the polling interval on how often you get messages, and that it's not possible to define one manually. So that can lead to long delays.
So instead of having gmail poll my POP3, I've now set my server to forward everything to gmail. It's a lot better now, I get the mail on my phone within 5 mins max.

It seems a lot of people don't understand what "Push email" actually is...

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It seems a lot of people don't understand what "Push email" actually is...
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Can you expand your point?
As far as I am aware Push Email is when the MDA pushes the mail to the MUA at the point of the mail arriving on the MDA as opposed to the MUA polling the MDA for new mail at a predetermined time.

Without going into all your TLA's, Push email is effectively the server saying I have an email for this client and pushing it to the device telling the device, "heh I got an email for you, catch!" like the way Blackberry works.
The majority of people on this thread keep referring to POP3/IMAP4 which is Pull email as the mail program goes to the server (be it every 30 seconds or every hour) and asks "have you got any mail for me please?" to which the server replies yes or no...
The OP from what I saw wanted to know if any Push Email solutions existed, eg. Blackberry style and the majority of replies were to do with Pull Email solutions, eg. POP3/IMAP4, so I just made the comment I did.
Heh ho and all that malarky...
Edit: on re-reading (I am at work so may have skimmed it a bit quickly) maybe my original comment wasn't relevant to the post. Ah well

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The majority of people on this thread keep referring to POP3/IMAP4 which is Pull email as the mail program goes to the server (be it every 30 seconds or every hour) and asks "have you got any mail for me please?" to which the server replies yes or no...
The OP from what I saw wanted to know if any Push Email solutions existed, eg. Blackberry style and the majority of replies were to do with Pull Email solutions, eg. POP3/IMAP4, so I just made the comment I did.
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I think we understand the distinction between pull and push just fine, thanks.
My question was whether there is a way to make an email account based on POP or IMAP behave as if it were push-based. Use of IMAP IDLE should achieve this (if I understand it correctly - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE). I was also inviting other suggestions.

to reiterate my earlier point google mail does free exchange connection to their POP/IMAP service, you can realtime sync mail, contacts and calendar data, its pushnot pull.