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so after about a week of fooking around with winmo i almost put it back up for sale on craigslist to send it back where it came from.
could not deal with this sht anymore( freezing,overheating, battery drain in standby, sms lagging, alarm not working and tonns more annoying issues)
2 different roms( i wanted to keep stock look and features, since most of cooked roms come with their own theme)
flashed chunky rom (lite version) with 12.50 radio havent tested it alone
then loaded up FroyoStone Series - Version 1 (07-Aug-2010) android rom
loaded jmz android dual boot app.
and so far it feels like im using a totally different phone.
one thing i regret is not doing it earlier.
everything seems to be working great,i definitely am able to use this phone more than i ever did with windows loaded on it.
loaded bunch of apps to see and they all work with no problems. even when an app gives an error it is eliminated with quickness.
everything is fast
android market is ridiculous packed with all kinds of sht(how fast it filled up with apps is insane)
alot of free ones to choose from
oh and almost forgot, the apps work without crashing the system.
i ve been on this phone for last 2 hours trying to figure out the android interface and its not even warm to touch as opposed to windows even in standby its very hot.
very sad that even in its early stage its much more usable than original OS
is there a WINMO HATER thread on xda btw?
beeing a new android user there are few things i have question about.
1 is there an X button to shut down apps like windows?
because most of the apps dont even have X button in app menu.
2 why does it try to crop the wallpaper even when its exact size to fit the screen?
3 Green LED blinks, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE. This is a diagnostic feature to see if the phone has crashed or not.
mine is not on( it was on for a while) but its still functioning, is it supposed to blink when crashed or when working normally?
4 images in general seem to be reendered with much less quality than on windows boot.
theres also an option to install it with sense, is sense responsible for processing those highrez images or is it winmo?
5 i installed the SD card auto mount app. os that good or bad app to have?
would that interfere with anything?
why don't you sell the phone on craigslist and go buy you a samsung galaxy s?
why dont you buy one for me then.
i can sell the HD2 to you if u like. so you can have a backup...
HATER still defending the crippled OS abandoned by microsoft.
if it wasnt for XDA and few other forums winmo would fall on its face long time ago.
microsoft should thank you guys for keeping their name in mobile business, because without tweakers there would be no one to use it.
galaxy screen is smaller btw and its a samsung and it doesnt have flash and its piano finish and it resembles iphone
i would go for amoled screen tho that thing is super crispy...
see now i forgot what i was gonna ask because of you.
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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Totally agree with you....winmo is the best os only if one knows how to use it properly.
Yea its not so user friendly but if you want to modify an os winmo would be on the top of the list!
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Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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/agreed.... man the number 'these' kinda threads are increasing at an alarming rate.
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1 is there an X button to shut down apps like windows?
because most of the apps dont even have X button in app menu.
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First, X'ing out of a program in WM does not shut it down...it keeps running in the background. Some programs have built in shut down options, but most of the time you have to use a task manager.
Likewise, in Android, as far as I know, pressing the home key lets you exit a app but it keep running in the background unless you shut it down with an app killer. Some apps have built-in shutdown options.
Ok guys lets not turn this into a my OS is better then yours is thread. Both of them have their pluses and negs, while I use use WM for everything work related I also use Android for messing around and games so to me each has its place.
Why is this thread even here this should be in general questions...
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It is here because we do not have an android general forum set up yet, But the great joshkoss has been working on trying to get it set up.
alarming is the fact that winmo is installed onto consumer phones that are meant for general public
not everyone wants to learn how to edit their registry to make a feature work
some people actually want to use the phone once in a while u know...
but in windows you can enable a program to be terminated by holding the x button
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alarming is the fact that winmo is installed onto consumer phones that are meant for general public
not everyone wants to learn how to edit their registry to make a feature work
some people actually want to use the phone once in a while u know...
but in windows you can enable a program to be terminated by holding the x button
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I agree with you to a degree. Winmo is better for users that know (and enjoy) how to tweak their devices (which usually isnt the average user) however it is still perfectly usable with no tweaks applied (albeit not as good as when they are). You are exagerating when you say that the phone is unuseable without tweaks because i used mine for a few weeks with no tweaks whatsoever and i am sure many others here did too and the phone was fully functional. Just because you prefer android to winmo dosent make it any better (for the record i prefer android too)
For the answer to youe x button question see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755504
I was never an android fan. I never used Android until yesterday. Nd even with this beta build is more stable and easier to use than winmo. First time sinnce I got this phone I didnt have to soft reset the phone for almost a day.
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There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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hardik119 said:
Totally agree with you....winmo is the best os only if one knows how to use it properly.
Yea its not so user friendly but if you want to modify an os winmo would be on the top of the list!
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Not to sound funny but the 2 above posts are stating winmo is so good, yet your replies are sent from android ports??
So I've used winmo for a bit, and when I do finally (hopefully) flash android onto my phones nand, I don't even want to loose winmo, I really would like to keep winmo as well because it is a decent OS, not as terrible as many make it sound, it is usable for sure.
However, lets not kid ourselves, it's no match for android. Winmo is an aging OS, and it makes that obvious. Android just feels so seamless and so optimized for mobile devices.
kinda what i was trying to say but with many more words
anyone still use DOS?
but i was hoping to get more answers related to android questions i had and not to bring about another thread with winmo vs android.
theres no doubt android is better suited for mobile, although windows has the ability to copy delete and do many more low level operations from the phone, thats why im thinking abotu keeping this phone as well and hope that we can make a true dual boot phone so i can run a clean android boot and clean winmo boot.
Hi there!
I was running my HD2 with a nice Dutty WinMO ROM and MaxManila, but I am kind of tired and would like to try out Android. But I read that sometimes the Android user interface on an HD2 is sometimes not very responsive or even slow.
Is anyone using Android on an HD2 without experiencing this "from-time-to-time-unresponsive" issue? And which builds are you using?
Also I would like to know what your opinion on speed of Android in comparison to Windows Mobile on an HD2 is in general.
Einstein was wrong, HD2 with Android surpasses the speed of light
The HD2 android it makes his first steps and there are many things to solve and make the devs.....In the other hand you must search for a good Android Build and testing testing testing.....No searching is mean you are not doing the job properly...
Mine runs pretty fast with Android, surely faster than it does with WinMo
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Mine runs pretty fast with Android, surely faster than it does with WinMo
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and what about the issue that some people report that it is from time to time unresponsive or slow responsive?
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and what about the issue that some people report that it is from time to time unresponsive or slow responsive?
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It's still s work in progress but as for crashes and it being unresponsive mine us rapid.... faster than em honestly pal there's no going back once you've used Android...... its not 100 % yet but it is 98% you can always switch back.... android runs from SD not a flash so disable sense or ant RAM hoggers in WM and give it a go I recommend shubCRAFT
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and what about the issue that some people report that it is from time to time unresponsive or slow responsive?
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they mean the screen doesnt respond for a few secs , theres a known fix , u gotta turn off the accelerometer
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they mean the screen doesnt respond for a few secs , theres a known fix , u gotta turn off the accelerometer
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Even with that, still sometimes the the screen doesnt respond for a few secs , can't complain though....Android can't be compared with WM.!
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Mine HD2 with Android 2.2 and latest kernel runs fast, but is not as smooth as in WIN 6.5 (with speed tweaks), and it gets also hotter.
However the Android UI is far more user friendly and there is much more apps available. I'm not going back to WM anymore, even if the linux/android is not yet completely ported to HD2.
Anyway you should try it, as there is no need to flash it. Just select a build, copy it to CF and run haret...
apples to oranges I say.
I can run my phone at about half the clock speed and it not feel laggy but I am use to a G1. Winmo was to much drama for me even with the custom rom,radio and standing on my head and saying bloody mary 3 times in a mirror.
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apples to oranges I say.
I can run my phone at about half the clock speed and it not feel laggy but I am use to a G1. Winmo was to much drama for me even with the custom rom,radio and standing on my head and saying bloody mary 3 times in a mirror.
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More like candy man candy man candy man!
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Windows feels snapper through menus. If I touch a menu button it opens so quickly. The performance of other things such as the browser are better under android.
Internet crashes too much on Android but when it does work it certainly is much faster, i look forward to when Android is 100% stable and we can boot it from start on the HD2 cos as it stands it's not relaible enough.
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Windows feels snapper through menus. If I touch a menu button it opens so quickly. The performance of other things such as the browser are better under android.
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Android is far quicker through menus there is delays set up go to launcherpro settings and turn menu delays up to 10th and it becomes instant
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Internet crashes too much on Android but when it does work it certainly is much faster, i look forward to when Android is 100% stable and we can boot it from start on the HD2 cos as it stands it's not relaible enough.
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I've not been on wm for 8 days not rebooted my phone for 2days not. Been on charge for 14 hours and git 39% battery data connection fast and stable. Android is totally stable just needs tweaking ;-) and SHUBcraft is the most stable In my opinion
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Android on our beloved HD2's is a labor of love....a work in progress VS long lived WinMo with the influence of MS behind it.
I'm using Android....different one everyday (or so it seems) and I enjoy the thrill of loading the build, tweaking and installing apps, but it's not faster than WinMo 6.5 - yet!
I am currently running a NAND Android build on my HD2.
I want to test out WP7. Is there a SD card build for WP7 instead? I don't want to erase my current NAND Android build, so is there a way to run WP7 from SD card instead?
nope, not yet, and in my opinion not very likely either
Was looking for something similar
Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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Isn't the multitouch a HW limitation? i expect to ever see that working correctly...
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Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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its unlikey that there will be any fixes for anything, and to be honest its not an issue anyway, multi touch works fine, you just have to adapt a little.
I used WM then moved to Android for my social dealings and finally ive moved to a 100% WP device and you cant pay me to move back, wp is a rock solid OS that works well, I used to mod the crap out of WM and droid OSs now i really dont feel the need to and i dont miss not being able to do it either, its very odd to start with but a couple of weeks later and im converted!
Gotta agree with Dazza. I've used it exclusivley for three months now. It is nearly flawless. There are a few points where I know I am hitting limitations due to the hack (Multi touch works, just not flawlessly). but these are no more, in fact less so than the flaws I always seemed to hit running android and there is no comparison to old WM builds. Even with the awesome ROM's that were available towards the end.
Even without NoDo or Mango, even with multi touch that will never be more than 2 point and sometimes be slower to respond then I would like, this will see me through to my next upgrade when I'll get whatever the latest WP7 iron is and my HD2 will be nailed to my wall in homage to the most ground breaking phone I can remember. even 2 years later it's versatility keeps it in the game!
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Isn't the multitouch a HW limitation? i expect to ever see that working correctly...
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It technically is and isn't. HTC says that the HD2 can support more than 2 point multitouch, but the software limits it to 2. But that is for Windows Mobile 6.5! So, in theory, it can be fixed, but the process to do so is not worth it.
And if you really want to, you can run NAND Windows Phone 7 and SD Android together
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its unlikey that there will be any fixes for anything, and to be honest its not an issue anyway, multi touch works fine, you just have to adapt a little.
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Works fine? No it doesn't. You have to press your fingers on the screen at exactly the same time for it to be recognised. This makes playing multitouch games almost impossible and makes other multitouch features within the OS (browsing and photo viewing for example) a chore at best.
Still, if you're happy with it that's all that matters.
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It technically is and isn't. HTC says that the HD2 can support more than 2 point multitouch, but the software limits it to 2. But that is for Windows Mobile 6.5! So, in theory, it can be fixed, but the process to do so is not worth it.
And if you really want to, you can run NAND Windows Phone 7 and SD Android together
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HTC doesn't say it supports for the 2-point multitouch. One random customer service person that works at HTC who probably didn't know what they were talking about doesn't count as HTC saying that.
Every dev that has worked on the touch screen or drivers for it have said its a hardware limitation of 2 point... and it's not even true, full 2point touch... that touch sensor was actually only designed to do pinch to zoom, but the clever devs were able to write drivers that allow us as close to real 2point multitouch we'll get on the HD2. But there's the problem of if your 2 fingers get close to the same axis line, it will register them as on the same line. That happens with our touch screen because it was designed for only pinch to zoom type multitouch originally.
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Works fine? No it doesn't. You have to press your fingers on the screen at exactly the same time for it to be recognised. This makes playing multitouch games almost impossible and makes other multitouch features within the OS (browsing and photo viewing for example) a chore at best.
Still, if you're happy with it that's all that matters.
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thats very much open to ones needs, I dont really play games so for me, once you adapt your fingers to hit at the same time there isnt an issue.
Too much hatin' going on here... or should I say pessimism?
Everyone just remember how TERRIBLE android was when it was first ported to the HD2. As for WP7, the first build I tried after 3 months is almost FLAWLESS. It is so fast, smooth, you can get Live services running in a few moments with just a few tweaks AND you can dual boot with Android. I see WP7 improvements on the horizon.
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Too much hatin' going on here... or should I say pessimism?
Everyone just remember how TERRIBLE android was when it was first ported to the HD2. As for WP7, the first build I tried after 3 months is almost FLAWLESS. It is so fast, smooth, you can get Live services running in a few moments with just a few tweaks AND you can dual boot with Android. I see WP7 improvements on the horizon.
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im glade you do, i dont, but o be honest there is very little id want changed, bar wp7 updates, actual hd2 compatibility updates are unlikely to change in the near future
Thanks for the reply guys. I upgraded to Gingerbread and find it very stable with improved performance. I am no longer interested in WP7...
Good for you, OP. I used WP7 for a few weeks, but it was too slow, ate too much of my battery even on standby, had no decent free nav, had few decent apps that I needed, was horribly hamstrung, and offered an abominable web surfing experience. On the positive side, it was smooth as silk and the boot time was amazing.
I think it still has potential, but I'll wait for WP7.9 or whatever they'll call it. I live in the present and I can't waste time using an OS because of what I think it can be in the future.
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Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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I couldn't be bothered so much about multitouch, my Android has a that irritating zoom in icon on the web and pics anyway, I want to try WP7 but switch back to a NAND Droid when I feel like it. So seriously a WP7 SD version would take the cake.
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I couldn't be bothered so much about multitouch, my Android has a that irritating zoom in icon on the web and pics anyway, I want to try WP7 but switch back to a NAND Droid when I feel like it. So seriously a WP7 SD version would take the cake.
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or you can back up your android ROM via CWM, so when you want to go back to Android after you check out WP7 you can just restore your nand droid via cwm in like 5 minutes.
Just tried the XBmod of WP7.
WP7 is much better than I expected microsoft did a good job this time around. Albeit I'm much to used to android to keep it on my HD2 but come upgrade time I may just get a Wp7 device.
keep your hd2, a handset cldnt get better than this, wp7 and android running along and that too with quite stability
dont forget to appreciate the developers whenever u can
why better? give some examples... I'm just thinking about change into wp7...
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why better? give some examples... I'm just thinking about change into wp7...
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not better than say android... But a surprising treat...
I don't know what to day about it.
The ui is just fun to use. The XBmod I used ran smooth as silk (similar to iphone smoothness). I like the messaging app. I didn't call microsoft for an activation code so I didn't get to try all the other great features although I'm sure it would have been worth the hassle
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pappasmurfsharem said:
not better than say android... But a surprising treat...
I don't know what to day about it.
The ui is just fun to use. The XBmod I used ran smooth as silk (similar to iphone smoothness). I like the messaging app. I didn't call microsoft for an activation code so I didn't get to try all the other great features although I'm sure it would have been worth the hassle
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Surprising, indeed. I used WP7 for a couple of months, everything fine. However, I missed the tweaking and modding - but I don´t like Android either. So I´m back to Windows Mobile/Sense...
WP7, imho, is far better than most reviews. Its completely new approach has its advantages; it´s fast and smooth.
At the end, it´s maybe a little too "simple" in the design. I think many people like all those fancy little icons on their smartphones, especially iOS users.
Oh, before I forget: One of the functions of WP7 is the integrated voice recognition/control. It works far better than anything else I ever tried before.
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Surprising, indeed. I used WP7 for a couple of months, everything fine. However, I missed the tweaking and modding - but I don´t like Android either. So I´m back to Windows Mobile/Sense...
WP7, imho, is far better than most reviews. Its completely new approach has its advantages; it´s fast and smooth.
At the end, it´s maybe a little too "simple" in the design. I think many people like all those fancy little icons on their smartphones, especially iOS users.
Oh, before I forget: One of the functions of WP7 is the integrated voice recognition/control. It works far better than anything else I ever tried before.
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How was your battery life? I only flashed out for a few minutes, but it seem like it wasn't charging
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pappasmurfsharem said:
not better than say android... But a surprising treat...
I don't know what to day about it.
The ui is just fun to use. The XBmod I used ran smooth as silk (similar to iphone smoothness). I like the messaging app. I didn't call microsoft for an activation code so I didn't get to try all the other great features although I'm sure it would have been worth the hassle
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Agree about the UI being fun to use. Very user friendly and fast fast fast. I did activate live services and while the app selection is not that great at the moment, the marketplace is very nice although a little convoluted when looking for apps. I'm currently dual booting Xbmod's build (v.1.11) and AmeriCanAndroid (which I usually use) but I'm holding out for the Mango update and hopefully that'll bring on some cool new apps and features so I can switch between the two without losing data. My biggest gripe is lack of apps. If I could somehow integrate my texts/call log between the two OSs, It would be a tough choice which one to run more.
I am a former iPhone user (2G one only) and I gotta say I thought I would miss it, but my HD2 is miles and miles better
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Agree about the UI being fun to use. Very user friendly and fast fast fast. I did activate live services and while the app selection is not that great at the moment, the marketplace is very nice although a little convoluted when looking for apps. I'm currently dual booting Xbmod's build (v.1.11) and AmeriCanAndroid (which I usually use) but I'm holding out for the Mango update and hopefully that'll bring on some cool new apps and features so I can switch between the two without losing data. My biggest gripe is lack of apps. If I could somehow integrate my texts/call log between the two OSs, It would be a tough choice which one to run more.
I am a former iPhone user (2G one only) and I gotta say I thought I would miss it, but my HD2 is miles and miles better
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How are you dual booting? Does haret run on wp7?
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How was your battery life? I only flashed out for a few minutes, but it seem like it wasn't charging
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does your led has an alternating sequence of red and green when plugged in??
if yes: then check the temperature of the phone,if its high,wait for it to cool down and then plug it in again(try switchin it off for cooling it down)
red green sequence means ur phone has overheated(yes its a bug) and as a risk of damage to battery, wp7 refuses to recharge it
(thanks to the developers )
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does your led has an alternating sequence of red and green when plugged in??
if yes: then check the temperature of the phone,if its high,wait for it to cool down and then plug it in again(try switchin it off for cooling it down)
red green sequence means ur phone has overheated(yes its a bug) and as a risk of damage to battery, wp7 refuses to recharge it
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What keeps that from happening?
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However, I missed the tweaking and modding
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I don't miss the tweaking and modding....and it's for a reason. With android i was constantly occupied with modding. With WP7 you can't tweak.....but you don't need to either. The UI works perfectly to begin with. The UI is designed to access basic functionality fast....phone, mail and messaging. Off course not everything is good, for example....i miss vibration feedback from the keyboard. The keyboard could have been larger as well.
WP7 doesn't have as many apps as android...but i only use flickr, facebook and twitter so i don't care.
If you're not changing to WP7 now....i would definitely give it a try as soon as mango is launched.
I agree. I was one of the loudest when it came to trashing WP7, when I hadn't even tried it, lol! Now I wouldn't use any other OS. Will definitely be getting a native WP7 come upgrade time. It's such an easy, smooth, & very reliable OS.
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What keeps that from happening?
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well there are two things you can do:
1.charge ONLY when its not hot,and try to remove and plug in the charger again.see if the continuous red light comes on(that means it charging,till its heat up again)
2.dual boot android and wp7 and charge in the android mode(its the best)
try Yuki's ROM,it heats up the least for me
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How are you dual booting? Does haret run on wp7?
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No, haret doesn't run on WP7. You use MAGLDR to launch either. Follow this thread EXACTLY. When I say exactly, do not deviate one step. I did and it caused me hours of frustration:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944288
You're going to have to switch to an SD rom of Android though, unless you use Portadroid to run your NexusHD2 ROM (but as far as I know, I think some of the NANDroid ROMs are a bit unstable using portadroid)
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I don't miss the tweaking and modding....and it's for a reason. With android i was constantly occupied with modding. With WP7 you can't tweak.....but you don't need to either. The UI works perfectly to begin with. The UI is designed to access basic functionality fast....phone, mail and messaging. Off course not everything is good, for example....i miss vibration feedback from the keyboard. The keyboard could have been larger as well.
WP7 doesn't have as many apps as android...but i only use flickr, facebook and twitter so i don't care.
If you're not changing to WP7 now....i would definitely give it a try as soon as mango is launched.
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Same for me, need something solid for work and WP& is it. Running 3 echange accounts and a hotmail no prob, and stability probs and need for any mods, just works. Just what i need.
Agree with OP. I was feeling resigned to having winmo 6.5 for another 6 months; now after installing win7 it feels I have a brand new phone! XD
WP7 is a nice system. But navigation systems for winmo and android is better.
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WP7 is a nice system. But navigation systems for winmo and android is better.
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not heard of gMaps?
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
koloko12 said:
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
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1)HD2 runs android smoothly imho... android 4.0 may have a few problems but thats like every other device
2)im running sense 3.5 which is gingerbread and the touch screen is very responsive no delay
3)dont know anything about the desire but i know that the roms for desire get ported to hd2 so we get there roms anyway
4)as i said earlier gingerbread sense 3.5 is great (using the ENERGY rom)
5) i dont thik the less memory makes a difference i have installed a fair few apps and still have room to spare
6)app/game speed differs between devices some may be faster on hd2 than desire you never know... i find the apps are quite fast
hope this helps
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
koloko12 said:
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
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I haven't used the DHD too much so I can't say which is better but 0my HD2 on CM7 appeared to keep up in performance in terms of scrolling, web browsing, opening apps etc. (i.e. not benchmarks) with my friend's DHD on CM7, and I would guess the HD2 is cheaper but the HD2 is absolutely terrible for playing HD games or games involving multitouch. In order for HD games to run smoothly you have to sacrifice either speed or graphics, and the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me. As much as I love the HD2, if it were up to me and both were around the same price I would go for the DHD, even if it is a slight bit more expensive
Nigeldg said:
the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me
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You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
koloko12 said:
You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
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Yes, unfortunately It does that very poorly as well, I can't describe it but sometimes it appears to lock the two points together if they are on the same line if you know what I mean, it's quite difficult to describe.
Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
As I said before, I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
I have an HD2 and am currently running the Energy ROM with sense 3.5 and Gingerbread. The screen is extremely responsive and over all the phone works great. I would recommend getting the HD2. It is one of the best phone out there as far as specs go and it isn't that expensive anymore.
If you want to buy a second-hand HD2, I would like to suggest you to check:
1. 3G data connection (refer to This)
2. Button response
3. Camera flashlight
4. Record video for 5 mins
5. earphone jack and some MP3
6. blue tooth file transfer
7. speaker
8. GPS in some navigation apps
9. Wifi of course
10.Ninja fruit for multi-touch test
Better bring a TF card with files or pics you want to test.
Since my HD2 has data connection freeze issue, I suggest you to buy a whole new handset like ONE X (if you like htc), with warranty. All these unsolved problems on HD2 are driving me crazy.
I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
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LOLOL
I think if you need faster device, Desire HD is choice (i see from the specifiaction..), but if you need monster device, HD2 is choice,,,,
It can running a lot of OS,,,
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I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Hi dooshbag45, I am thinking of changing my gingerbread rom to ICS. My current rom keeps rebooting when I am using headphone to listen to music. If i use loudspeaker it does not reboot. I have even had to think twice buying a beats audio headphone because of this problem. Does the ICS rom that you're using only fc or rebooting also? Is it only when you're using the default music app or also with third party app? Mine even reboots when i am using winamp.
hd2 pros
Many OS available (android, wp7, Ubuntu, etc)
Great screen (for devices age)
EASILY nodded
Cons
Touchscreen issues - using more than one finger recognition, failing digitizer (design flaw)
Data drop (happens to some, a simple disconnect/reconnect solves)
1 rear 5mp cam
Specs are showing their age but still hang with the best of em!!!
I've had a hands on with a friends DHD so the below is based on a QUICK hands on
DHD pros
Native android
Slight advantage on HD2 (hardware specs)
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
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Incorrect. The Desire HD has a screen of 4.3", which is as large as the HD2.
Hi
I've used both. And both are great devices too. The only drawback for both of em are lack of front cam. But IMHO go for a newer model. Like sensation and EVO 3d. You may get it cheaper also.
But the final decision be yours.
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