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installed FroyoStone Series and finally able to use the phone

so after about a week of fooking around with winmo i almost put it back up for sale on craigslist to send it back where it came from.
could not deal with this sht anymore( freezing,overheating, battery drain in standby, sms lagging, alarm not working and tonns more annoying issues)
2 different roms( i wanted to keep stock look and features, since most of cooked roms come with their own theme)
flashed chunky rom (lite version) with 12.50 radio havent tested it alone
then loaded up FroyoStone Series - Version 1 (07-Aug-2010) android rom
loaded jmz android dual boot app.
and so far it feels like im using a totally different phone.
one thing i regret is not doing it earlier.
everything seems to be working great,i definitely am able to use this phone more than i ever did with windows loaded on it.
loaded bunch of apps to see and they all work with no problems. even when an app gives an error it is eliminated with quickness.
everything is fast
android market is ridiculous packed with all kinds of sht(how fast it filled up with apps is insane)
alot of free ones to choose from
oh and almost forgot, the apps work without crashing the system.
i ve been on this phone for last 2 hours trying to figure out the android interface and its not even warm to touch as opposed to windows even in standby its very hot.
very sad that even in its early stage its much more usable than original OS
is there a WINMO HATER thread on xda btw?
beeing a new android user there are few things i have question about.
1 is there an X button to shut down apps like windows?
because most of the apps dont even have X button in app menu.
2 why does it try to crop the wallpaper even when its exact size to fit the screen?
3 Green LED blinks, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE. This is a diagnostic feature to see if the phone has crashed or not.
mine is not on( it was on for a while) but its still functioning, is it supposed to blink when crashed or when working normally?
4 images in general seem to be reendered with much less quality than on windows boot.
theres also an option to install it with sense, is sense responsible for processing those highrez images or is it winmo?
5 i installed the SD card auto mount app. os that good or bad app to have?
would that interfere with anything?

why don't you sell the phone on craigslist and go buy you a samsung galaxy s?

why dont you buy one for me then.
i can sell the HD2 to you if u like. so you can have a backup...
HATER still defending the crippled OS abandoned by microsoft.
if it wasnt for XDA and few other forums winmo would fall on its face long time ago.
microsoft should thank you guys for keeping their name in mobile business, because without tweakers there would be no one to use it.
galaxy screen is smaller btw and its a samsung and it doesnt have flash and its piano finish and it resembles iphone
i would go for amoled screen tho that thing is super crispy...
see now i forgot what i was gonna ask because of you.

There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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Totally agree with you....winmo is the best os only if one knows how to use it properly.
Yea its not so user friendly but if you want to modify an os winmo would be on the top of the list!
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Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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/agreed.... man the number 'these' kinda threads are increasing at an alarming rate.

fuzzysig said:
1 is there an X button to shut down apps like windows?
because most of the apps dont even have X button in app menu.
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First, X'ing out of a program in WM does not shut it down...it keeps running in the background. Some programs have built in shut down options, but most of the time you have to use a task manager.
Likewise, in Android, as far as I know, pressing the home key lets you exit a app but it keep running in the background unless you shut it down with an app killer. Some apps have built-in shutdown options.

Ok guys lets not turn this into a my OS is better then yours is thread. Both of them have their pluses and negs, while I use use WM for everything work related I also use Android for messing around and games so to me each has its place.

Why is this thread even here this should be in general questions...
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It is here because we do not have an android general forum set up yet, But the great joshkoss has been working on trying to get it set up.

alarming is the fact that winmo is installed onto consumer phones that are meant for general public
not everyone wants to learn how to edit their registry to make a feature work
some people actually want to use the phone once in a while u know...
but in windows you can enable a program to be terminated by holding the x button

fuzzysig said:
alarming is the fact that winmo is installed onto consumer phones that are meant for general public
not everyone wants to learn how to edit their registry to make a feature work
some people actually want to use the phone once in a while u know...
but in windows you can enable a program to be terminated by holding the x button
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I agree with you to a degree. Winmo is better for users that know (and enjoy) how to tweak their devices (which usually isnt the average user) however it is still perfectly usable with no tweaks applied (albeit not as good as when they are). You are exagerating when you say that the phone is unuseable without tweaks because i used mine for a few weeks with no tweaks whatsoever and i am sure many others here did too and the phone was fully functional. Just because you prefer android to winmo dosent make it any better (for the record i prefer android too)
For the answer to youe x button question see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755504

I was never an android fan. I never used Android until yesterday. Nd even with this beta build is more stable and easier to use than winmo. First time sinnce I got this phone I didnt have to soft reset the phone for almost a day.

Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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hardik119 said:
Totally agree with you....winmo is the best os only if one knows how to use it properly.
Yea its not so user friendly but if you want to modify an os winmo would be on the top of the list!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA app on froyo mattc 1.5
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Not to sound funny but the 2 above posts are stating winmo is so good, yet your replies are sent from android ports??

So I've used winmo for a bit, and when I do finally (hopefully) flash android onto my phones nand, I don't even want to loose winmo, I really would like to keep winmo as well because it is a decent OS, not as terrible as many make it sound, it is usable for sure.
However, lets not kid ourselves, it's no match for android. Winmo is an aging OS, and it makes that obvious. Android just feels so seamless and so optimized for mobile devices.

kinda what i was trying to say but with many more words
anyone still use DOS?
but i was hoping to get more answers related to android questions i had and not to bring about another thread with winmo vs android.
theres no doubt android is better suited for mobile, although windows has the ability to copy delete and do many more low level operations from the phone, thats why im thinking abotu keeping this phone as well and hope that we can make a true dual boot phone so i can run a clean android boot and clean winmo boot.

If you have loaded android on HD2...did you like it better than WinMo?

I know it has its imperfections...I played with a droid a little while back and liked the widget aspect...but is it worth even trying to see how the hd2 works with it.?

are you serious?!
ok, may be you're really not knowing better. let's grab your own words first, widgets, or better applikations in generell. every of them I tested myself so far(and those were legions... = ) ran smoove, fast und didn't ever influence any other part of the system in performance and stability in a negative way.
more, the android apps in the first place show the potential of our favorite device.
everything I used in WM, I now have a notch enough better and, that's the best, I got 1000x more ; ), 1000x more style, 1000x more flow, 1000x more effectivity
and I never need cosmetics like sense anymore
and by the way, a freeze a day, that's yesterday. if android reboots, I tell him before
it's worth it, it solves it!

I think touch Flo is great and without it winmo would have been hell. However imho android is in a different league in terms of apps, ease of use and eye candy.
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maerdance said:
are you serious?!
ok, may be you're really not knowing better. let's grab your own words first, widgets, or better applikations in generell. every of them I tested myself so far(and those were legions... = ) ran smoove, fast und didn't ever influence any other part of the system in performance and stability in a negative way.
more, the android apps in the first place show the potential of our favorite device.
everything I used in WM, I now have a notch enough better and, that's the best, I got 1000x more ; ), 1000x more style, 1000x more flow, 1000x more effectivity
and I never need cosmetics like sense anymore
and by the way, a freeze a day, that's yesterday. if android reboots, I tell him before
it's worth it, it solves it!
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yes, junior, I am being serious---as I have been Sense all since the beginnings...thanks for your 2 cents...I'll take a dive and check it out.

I still enjoy using WinMo, but I can't deny how great Android is. It meets all of my expectations and without all of the tweaking that had to be done in WinMo.
Sense UI ontop of 6.5.x kept the system modern, but it wasn't enough for me. I bought the HD2 because I wanted the top of the line WinMo phone. Now I have the top of the line WinMo and Android phone bundled together. Sad to say it, but once WiFi tether is up and running I will completely phase out anything but Android. The underlying core is as important as the clothes you put on it.
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Give it a try, you wont be disappointed. I wasnt a WinMo user, I have had Androids since the G1 came out, Blackberry devices prior to that, matter of fact I had pre-ordered my G1. After the G1 I went to the Nexus when it came out, but was keeping a close eye on the HD2 progress as I really liked the phone but really disliked WinMo lol, anyways, I sold my nexus and got a netbook and a HD2 for what I sold my Nexus for..cant beat that.
Android on the HD2 is not as fluent as my Nexus was but its pretty close. If you like WinMo then give Android a shot, its so much more. It has apps for just about everything you could think of and a great majority of them are free or a buck or two.
The ecosystem of Android offers so much over that of WinMo, first off Microsoft has all but forgotten the existence of anything related to 6.5 and has moved on to 7, with that so have most of your developers. The HD2 with WinMo is all but dead, yet its still a decent phone..breathe some life into it and see what that little green robot can do for you

I have been an Android user since Late 2008. I was an early adopter with the G1. And i used my G1 up until I bought my HD2, and the only reason i purchased it was because i wanted to take a gamble to see if the devs could get android running on it.
Look at the progress that they have gotten done on it. Big props to them. If you lived anywhere near me, i would take you out for many beers.
Touchflo was fine, as long as you have never used android before. which a lot of people who were only winmo users are starting to figure out.
Open Source FTMFW

Dual Boot Preference
I have been an avid WinMo user since the Wing all the way up to the HD2. I will say since the Android platform has been ported onto the HD2 hardware I have been thoroughly impressed with Android and more disinterested in WinMo. My only issue with the dual boot is that if Android fails I cannot reboot back into it without a "root.fs" failure. Which means I have to delete all trace files on my sd card and start all over. Can someone please let me know what I am doing wrong and PM me because I may not get to read your post in time.
Thx - New Android Converter

I use Android on my HD2 since the first release.
I couldn't go back to sense/winmo.
It's like I had a new phone ^^
The early releases freezed, chrashed, but *the late ones are right for daily usage.
(just use the right light winmo rom, the right radio, and disable the g-sensor)
The only sad part is, you'll need to boot on winmo to access your SD and copy files.
Well, for now 'till it's fixed
Android is so... ... I can't describe it, try it

I was days, if not hours away from selling my HD2 cause i was bored of WM, i had tried every ROM out there, and sure it's a great phone as is. But for me i needed something more. Now that i have android on my device, IMHO I have the best device on the market. Period. It is EXACTLY what i was looking for in a phone. I can even go back into windows if i need something.

I will always keep winmo as the booting OS but do like the android sense build, if it ran in the same way on winmo I probably wouldn't even use android, but the widgets, speed and ease of use is a winner. I feel though, that sense in winmo looks much more polished (visually) than it does in android.

I am amazed at the amount of people who speak of polish when It comes to android. Sense does look nice on Winmo but thats only a cover for a really old and ugly interface. With android the sense ui is weaved into the Os. We may not have the pretty Icons or th 18 so called useful screens But I didnt use half of those screens.
A Twitter home screen is no match for a twitter widget.
A Music widget is no match for the music home screen. Though cht does help with that.
I only need a few home screens because android makes such good use of its space with widgets and such.
Overall I think im just use to sense on android. I was completely disappointed with Winmo sense.
To each their own. Both do the job well for certain people. I personally dont need exchange or calender sync
Btw I'm running shu8icraft 1.4c along with a june 11 energy rom.
radio 2.10 t-mo us (underclocked at 652mhz)

I've been a WIM user for years, absolutely loved Sense, and felt loyal to WM -but after less than 20 hours on Android I'm not going back. Microsoft has completely lost me as a user

maerdance said:
are you serious?!
ok, may be you're really not knowing better. let's grab your own words first, widgets, or better applikations in generell. every of them I tested myself so far(and those were legions... = ) ran smoove, fast und didn't ever influence any other part of the system in performance and stability in a negative way.
more, the android apps in the first place show the potential of our favorite device.
everything I used in WM, I now have a notch enough better and, that's the best, I got 1000x more ; ), 1000x more style, 1000x more flow, 1000x more effectivity
and I never need cosmetics like sense anymore
and by the way, a freeze a day, that's yesterday. if android reboots, I tell him before
it's worth it, it solves it!
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i do agree how Android has more eye candy yet still runs smoother than WM.
I do love Sense UI(and Android comes with it to on some builds) but even WM with Sense is still being ran by an out of date, sluggish OS

In windows mobile the sense graphics and overall snappiness still impresses me. Beyond that it is clunky, ugly and feels generally old. Android is just plain intuitive. It puts all the settings in the right place and spells out what everything does for you. Notifications are handled better and everything just feels like the people who created it put thought into it. Finally the apps are the icing on the cake. The android market is in full gear while WM development is on its last legs.

Well...I tried it, and went back to winmo...(did it with Energy's Android ROM)---I reloaded the previous Sense rom, and even after deleting all Android aspects of the rom, I am now plagued with problems such as:
1. Programs (file explorer, for example) not working with storage card inserted
2. sprite and pim backup fail
3. soft resets only successful if storage card is not inserted
4. Black screen of death upon going into standby mode---
did I miss something? I already reflashed twice!

I love the fact that when all of us were buying HD2 - others were saying why buy HD2 when it's outdated already cuz of WinMo 6.5... But now, nowhere to be found are peeps who were saying those things to us ... running WinMo, geting bored, switching over to Android - simply the BEAUTY!!!
I use WinMo as primary OS until it is figured out how to improve battery life - but still here and there I run Android for 2-3 days - just for fun of getting my hands on Apps

telegraph0000 said:
Well...I tried it, and went back to winmo...(did it with Energy's Android ROM)---I reloaded the previous Sense rom, and even after deleting all Android aspects of the rom, I am now plagued with problems such as:
1. Programs (file explorer, for example) not working with storage card inserted
2. sprite and pim backup fail
3. soft resets only successful if storage card is not inserted
4. Black screen of death upon going into standby mode---
did I miss something? I already reflashed twice!
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When i have removed android I never suffered any of the ill effects. Android doesnt touch the winmo files so why would it cause these things not to work.
Sounds like typical winmo stuff to me.
Did you task 29 and do a format of the sdcard.

Have to say, all the Android builds i have tried just cant match up to a speedy custom ROM on Winmo.
A good custom ROM imo is snappier, quicker and much less likely to freeze randomly.
I need to use my HD2 daily and need it to work 100% of the time - so at the moment im sticking with winmo.

Actually, I have fewer problems with Android froyostone v1 than WinMo; I find it more stable than Miri/Steve GTX (one before latest ROM) which is pretty darn stable! Had Android running for 3 days so far with no need of a reboot...that doesn't happen with WinMo. Slightly annoying that headsets (I know they work on other builds but sticking with froyostone for now) and wifi tethering doesn't work--but I am sure they will soon!
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Have to say, all the Android builds i have tried just cant match up to a speedy custom ROM on Winmo.
A good custom ROM imo is snappier, quicker and much less likely to freeze randomly.
I need to use my HD2 daily and need it to work 100% of the time - so at the moment im sticking with winmo.
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[Q] android speed

Hi there!
I was running my HD2 with a nice Dutty WinMO ROM and MaxManila, but I am kind of tired and would like to try out Android. But I read that sometimes the Android user interface on an HD2 is sometimes not very responsive or even slow.
Is anyone using Android on an HD2 without experiencing this "from-time-to-time-unresponsive" issue? And which builds are you using?
Also I would like to know what your opinion on speed of Android in comparison to Windows Mobile on an HD2 is in general.

Einstein was wrong, HD2 with Android surpasses the speed of light
The HD2 android it makes his first steps and there are many things to solve and make the devs.....In the other hand you must search for a good Android Build and testing testing testing.....No searching is mean you are not doing the job properly...

Mine runs pretty fast with Android, surely faster than it does with WinMo

traithudo said:
Mine runs pretty fast with Android, surely faster than it does with WinMo
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and what about the issue that some people report that it is from time to time unresponsive or slow responsive?

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and what about the issue that some people report that it is from time to time unresponsive or slow responsive?
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It's still s work in progress but as for crashes and it being unresponsive mine us rapid.... faster than em honestly pal there's no going back once you've used Android...... its not 100 % yet but it is 98% you can always switch back.... android runs from SD not a flash so disable sense or ant RAM hoggers in WM and give it a go I recommend shubCRAFT
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and what about the issue that some people report that it is from time to time unresponsive or slow responsive?
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they mean the screen doesnt respond for a few secs , theres a known fix , u gotta turn off the accelerometer

souljaboy said:
they mean the screen doesnt respond for a few secs , theres a known fix , u gotta turn off the accelerometer
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Even with that, still sometimes the the screen doesnt respond for a few secs , can't complain though....Android can't be compared with WM.!
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Mine HD2 with Android 2.2 and latest kernel runs fast, but is not as smooth as in WIN 6.5 (with speed tweaks), and it gets also hotter.
However the Android UI is far more user friendly and there is much more apps available. I'm not going back to WM anymore, even if the linux/android is not yet completely ported to HD2.
Anyway you should try it, as there is no need to flash it. Just select a build, copy it to CF and run haret...

apples to oranges I say.
I can run my phone at about half the clock speed and it not feel laggy but I am use to a G1. Winmo was to much drama for me even with the custom rom,radio and standing on my head and saying bloody mary 3 times in a mirror.

hazard99 said:
apples to oranges I say.
I can run my phone at about half the clock speed and it not feel laggy but I am use to a G1. Winmo was to much drama for me even with the custom rom,radio and standing on my head and saying bloody mary 3 times in a mirror.
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More like candy man candy man candy man!
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Windows feels snapper through menus. If I touch a menu button it opens so quickly. The performance of other things such as the browser are better under android.

Internet crashes too much on Android but when it does work it certainly is much faster, i look forward to when Android is 100% stable and we can boot it from start on the HD2 cos as it stands it's not relaible enough.

polo735 said:
Windows feels snapper through menus. If I touch a menu button it opens so quickly. The performance of other things such as the browser are better under android.
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Android is far quicker through menus there is delays set up go to launcherpro settings and turn menu delays up to 10th and it becomes instant
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jonny68 said:
Internet crashes too much on Android but when it does work it certainly is much faster, i look forward to when Android is 100% stable and we can boot it from start on the HD2 cos as it stands it's not relaible enough.
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I've not been on wm for 8 days not rebooted my phone for 2days not. Been on charge for 14 hours and git 39% battery data connection fast and stable. Android is totally stable just needs tweaking ;-) and SHUBcraft is the most stable In my opinion
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Android on our beloved HD2's is a labor of love....a work in progress VS long lived WinMo with the influence of MS behind it.
I'm using Android....different one everyday (or so it seems) and I enjoy the thrill of loading the build, tweaking and installing apps, but it's not faster than WinMo 6.5 - yet!

Are u guys still keeping WP7?

Are u guys still running WM7 or jumped back to android ?
Is there a option to run WM7 and android form SD card or sld I still wait to flash WM7 ?

Keeping WP7 For now - i am not sure about anyone else but i find it to be more stable compared to the android builds etc in terms of functionality and stuff - Far as running WP7 and android from sd card at the same time is concerned, i think that is not a possibility for now with the way WP7 uses the sd card upon installation -

jessesam said:
Are u guys still running WM7 or jumped back to android ?
Is there a option to run WM7 and andorid form SD card or sld I still wait to flash WM7 ?
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Not now, will keep using WP7 for while. For me, i like android more than WP7. Android can do more stuff for me than WP7. Movie playback on Android is the best, no need to do any converting to the right format.

Yeah, I'm still sticking with it.. at least for now. Having fun exploring the market and I just love the smoothness of the UI
Well, about the dual boot thing, some folks already posted about it. Here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
I personally doesn't like the idea of partitioning my beloved android sd card so I bought a new one to use with the WP7.

Will test it out for at least another week. I was running MIUI Android build from SD and it was next to perfect, switch to Android on NAND and it's been hit in miss (not that fast or stable as the SD versions)
But to cut the story short I'm keeping WP7 for now the only issues right now is the sound is way to loud, lack of apps (if you think is bad on Android its even worse on WP7 ) and the touchscreen still has issues.

all what i should say is that hd2 is a windows phone

it feels like the hd2 came home with WP7, so i'm staying for now

i will def stay with windows 7, i was a big android fan, but ever snice they ported windows 7 i fell in love with this OS.

Im going to be staying WP7 - it's works absolutely perfectly, i get no data drops, no screen freezes, and i just love the UI... sticking with it

will be going back to android tomorrow. i absolutely dislike the iphone-like OS restrictions in wp7. also, where can i turn off all those annoying animations?waiting for the animation to end when clicking something isn't much different from a lag.
ui is okay, but tbh adw launcher EX on android is better.
overall wp7 isn't as bad as i thought, but i'd prefer an open system any day.
MS really screwed up, winMO's advantage always was the open system. now android took that place, so i'll stick with it.
even a battery widget with % display is IMPOSSIBLE on wp7 because of restrictions. thats HILARIOUS..

i am not sure...wp 7 is great, runs smoth but i dont like the locked down **** (zune/no mass storage, no myphone/backup function yadayada) and i miss one important free application for me (live soccer scores for the second german bundesliga).
For the moment i will stay with wp7, cause of smooth running...maybe i will go back to win mobile....android has more disadvantages for me than the two windows versions (especially in contacts management).

When i first booted up wp7 and tried to setup/transfer files i was sure i will move back to android in less than an hour. the OS is extremely restricted.
Now im using it two days because of the smooth inverface and no time to flash. Im sure I will flash back to Android tomorrow

I'll stick with WP7 for at least a week or so, Give devs a chance to work a little magic with Roms
I love to way WP7 runs, like it was meant for this device... but I love the complete freedom of Android.
I'm most impressed by the boot time, its crazy compared to Android.

Already back to android and happy with it. For now it suits better my needs.
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I'm going to keep WP7 until Monday to show the guys at work who are interested in getting WP7 phones, them I'm straight back to Android. WP7 is worse than the iPhone.

I'm totally blinded from this smoothness of WP7.
I love the UI, especially the contacts-hub with facebook-updates and the ui-colors I can set.
Just when I think I now know every app at the marketplace, I still find one that is interesting
The boot time is excellent too.
The only things someone has to change for me, is the missing camera-autofocus, the loud speaker and the terrible battery life (lasts about half of a day with radio 2.15.50.14 and 1-2 hours of wifi, some downloads and textmessages).
I'll leave it for a while.

I'm sticking with it, everything it does it does really well. The keyboard is the best I've used by far!
I have to complete ilomilo too!

Pros...
best keyboard I have used.
data connection like stock winmo
email and msging interface is good
Plays YouTube very nicely
Interface is very smooth.
Cons..
really hate UI restrictions..
reminds more of IPhone
dislike the home screen
marketplace is bad..i mean interface
battery drained in 4 hours
In nutshell..yes back to mdj 2.4 band android tomorrow
Nice while it lasted..by the way spent 3 hours to install it and getting the activation code working

will i keep windows phone 7 on my HD2 ?
Ohh man ... i must say ... seeing windows phone on my HD2 really convinced me that this phone is a wonder in a lot of ways... just see how many OS flavours you have!
I craved windows phone since i seen it for the first time months ago ... will be keeping this one on this phone ... it just works as you like!
As the devs @ Microsoft said, it's really a deferent kind of phone!

Still using it since it was first leaked. Very nice and smooth, although i do miss android i think ill be keeping this since it is much more stable!

WP7 SD Build?

I am currently running a NAND Android build on my HD2.
I want to test out WP7. Is there a SD card build for WP7 instead? I don't want to erase my current NAND Android build, so is there a way to run WP7 from SD card instead?

nope, not yet, and in my opinion not very likely either

Was looking for something similar

Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.

Pagnell said:
Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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Isn't the multitouch a HW limitation? i expect to ever see that working correctly...

Pagnell said:
Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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its unlikey that there will be any fixes for anything, and to be honest its not an issue anyway, multi touch works fine, you just have to adapt a little.
I used WM then moved to Android for my social dealings and finally ive moved to a 100% WP device and you cant pay me to move back, wp is a rock solid OS that works well, I used to mod the crap out of WM and droid OSs now i really dont feel the need to and i dont miss not being able to do it either, its very odd to start with but a couple of weeks later and im converted!

Gotta agree with Dazza. I've used it exclusivley for three months now. It is nearly flawless. There are a few points where I know I am hitting limitations due to the hack (Multi touch works, just not flawlessly). but these are no more, in fact less so than the flaws I always seemed to hit running android and there is no comparison to old WM builds. Even with the awesome ROM's that were available towards the end.
Even without NoDo or Mango, even with multi touch that will never be more than 2 point and sometimes be slower to respond then I would like, this will see me through to my next upgrade when I'll get whatever the latest WP7 iron is and my HD2 will be nailed to my wall in homage to the most ground breaking phone I can remember. even 2 years later it's versatility keeps it in the game!

rwholden said:
Isn't the multitouch a HW limitation? i expect to ever see that working correctly...
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It technically is and isn't. HTC says that the HD2 can support more than 2 point multitouch, but the software limits it to 2. But that is for Windows Mobile 6.5! So, in theory, it can be fixed, but the process to do so is not worth it.
And if you really want to, you can run NAND Windows Phone 7 and SD Android together

dazza9075 said:
its unlikey that there will be any fixes for anything, and to be honest its not an issue anyway, multi touch works fine, you just have to adapt a little.
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Works fine? No it doesn't. You have to press your fingers on the screen at exactly the same time for it to be recognised. This makes playing multitouch games almost impossible and makes other multitouch features within the OS (browsing and photo viewing for example) a chore at best.
Still, if you're happy with it that's all that matters.

XPiemaster said:
It technically is and isn't. HTC says that the HD2 can support more than 2 point multitouch, but the software limits it to 2. But that is for Windows Mobile 6.5! So, in theory, it can be fixed, but the process to do so is not worth it.
And if you really want to, you can run NAND Windows Phone 7 and SD Android together
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HTC doesn't say it supports for the 2-point multitouch. One random customer service person that works at HTC who probably didn't know what they were talking about doesn't count as HTC saying that.
Every dev that has worked on the touch screen or drivers for it have said its a hardware limitation of 2 point... and it's not even true, full 2point touch... that touch sensor was actually only designed to do pinch to zoom, but the clever devs were able to write drivers that allow us as close to real 2point multitouch we'll get on the HD2. But there's the problem of if your 2 fingers get close to the same axis line, it will register them as on the same line. That happens with our touch screen because it was designed for only pinch to zoom type multitouch originally.

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Works fine? No it doesn't. You have to press your fingers on the screen at exactly the same time for it to be recognised. This makes playing multitouch games almost impossible and makes other multitouch features within the OS (browsing and photo viewing for example) a chore at best.
Still, if you're happy with it that's all that matters.
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thats very much open to ones needs, I dont really play games so for me, once you adapt your fingers to hit at the same time there isnt an issue.

Too much hatin' going on here... or should I say pessimism?
Everyone just remember how TERRIBLE android was when it was first ported to the HD2. As for WP7, the first build I tried after 3 months is almost FLAWLESS. It is so fast, smooth, you can get Live services running in a few moments with just a few tweaks AND you can dual boot with Android. I see WP7 improvements on the horizon.

d16soda said:
Too much hatin' going on here... or should I say pessimism?
Everyone just remember how TERRIBLE android was when it was first ported to the HD2. As for WP7, the first build I tried after 3 months is almost FLAWLESS. It is so fast, smooth, you can get Live services running in a few moments with just a few tweaks AND you can dual boot with Android. I see WP7 improvements on the horizon.
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im glade you do, i dont, but o be honest there is very little id want changed, bar wp7 updates, actual hd2 compatibility updates are unlikely to change in the near future

Thanks for the reply guys. I upgraded to Gingerbread and find it very stable with improved performance. I am no longer interested in WP7...

Good for you, OP. I used WP7 for a few weeks, but it was too slow, ate too much of my battery even on standby, had no decent free nav, had few decent apps that I needed, was horribly hamstrung, and offered an abominable web surfing experience. On the positive side, it was smooth as silk and the boot time was amazing.
I think it still has potential, but I'll wait for WP7.9 or whatever they'll call it. I live in the present and I can't waste time using an OS because of what I think it can be in the future.

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Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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I couldn't be bothered so much about multitouch, my Android has a that irritating zoom in icon on the web and pics anyway, I want to try WP7 but switch back to a NAND Droid when I feel like it. So seriously a WP7 SD version would take the cake.

farcry27 said:
I couldn't be bothered so much about multitouch, my Android has a that irritating zoom in icon on the web and pics anyway, I want to try WP7 but switch back to a NAND Droid when I feel like it. So seriously a WP7 SD version would take the cake.
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or you can back up your android ROM via CWM, so when you want to go back to Android after you check out WP7 you can just restore your nand droid via cwm in like 5 minutes.