Hi all,
I need some urgent feedback from you good folks as I have been given until tomorrow to decide whether to send back my T-Mobile MDA Vario.
On the slide out keyboard, if I press the space/sym button lightly in the center it clicks once and if i press slightly harder it clicks a second time...
Is this meant to happen? Does anybody elses do this?
Haris
PS. If I press the button on either side there is only one click
Mine makes a sound like it's clicking twice but actually only does one click.
Thanks for the prompt reply sunseaker!
When you say 'does' one click, do you mean in the software? So you only get 1 space in Word even though you're hearing/feeling 2 clicks?
Yeah,so do I.I feel it was twice.But actually,it's only one space appeared in word.
That's what's happening with me, you can feel two clicks in the center but one if you press on either side, just one is showing in word.
So all Wizard Keyboards behave like this? At first I thought it may be something like a two function button ie. light press for normal space harder press for something else.
I looked in the manual for some kind of explanation but there's no mention of it...
If they really are all like this (keep the feedback coming pls) don't people find it really annoying to feel a double click happening on a frequently used button when all the other buttons function normally? (ie. click once)
The reason you get two clicks is because there's two of those little contacts below the space key - the reason for that, in turn, is that the key is pretty wide. These two contacts are on the same 'paths', though, so there's no differentiating a spacebar press on the left from one on the right.
The reason you only get 1 space is because, normally, if you press in the center in such a way that you happen to 'click' both left and right, it will be in such a short interval that the repeat is ignored. Try pressing any other key, such as a letter key, really fast (so not 'click click', but rather 'c-click') twice - it will also only enter the letter once.
It's not too annoying for me, as I either press it on the left or on the right, depending on which thumb happens to be nearest the key
Cheers Ze!
I thought it might be something to do with 2 contacts under the space bar.
Since this is not a fault (design fault maybe ) I'm happy to aim my thumbs to the corners and will rest assured that I don't have a dodgy Vario
Thanks to all that replied - I can keep my new toy! :wink:
When I push the "message" + "ok/close" buttons at the same time. It will align my Wizard Pocket PC sceen (It thing it is a default short cut or something) I want to disable this align screen shortcut. Is there a way for me to disable this align screen short cut? I don't want it in my wizard. Thank you very much.
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Try changing button assignments in settings\buttons - my message button is changed to media player and i cant get the align screen to appear
Try changing button assignments in settings\buttons - my message button is changed to media player and i cant get the align screen to appear
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I did that but it is still not disable the short cut in my device.
Any more help?
Last time I checked I think it was Message button and action button. I dotn think this is something u can change. It is a hardware safety feature in case someone where to totally screw up ur alignment, you wont have to hard reset to get it working again.
Cause once the screen alignment is messed up there is no way to get to the alignment app. (without that hardware shortcut)
Later; Lew
P.S. Someone asked about this before, I cant remember what the final verdicted was thoe, search the board.
Thank but Can I change the short cut to somethings else?
Also What is the name of old topic so I can search (I did before making this post but could not fin it)
Thank you guy very much for great help!!!
is there a way to disable the oddly placed send key that sits between the "R" and "T" keys? my big ol thumbs go crusing on emails and I end up sending emails before I am done. thanks for any feedback
i do the SAME thing- and i don't even have fat fingers...
I do that **** all the time. haha. and I have fat fingers.
I hear ya! anyone know how to change that?
does anyone use these buttons? seems easier to just touch the screen.. of course my dumb luck I would want to press the button and hit the "R" buttton instead. im glad to hear its not just me.
Happens to me too. I searched the registry for "send" but nothing interesting came up.
lol, done that a few times myself...getting a reply reading "wtf???" before you finish, and re-send is what...(shoutout to all famliy guy fans) "grinds my gears"
off the top of my head you could try AE Software's AEKMap which allows you to reassign buttons from the hardware keyboard.....but by doing so you might disable the two softkeys altogether. You can even figure out what registry entries are edited from changing the hardware keys by using a registry editing app that you control from your pc-scan before and after. I'm too lazy to try it out, maybe someone else could see if this is a possible solution *nudge* tadevinney *nudge*
Virtual keymapping would disable the soft keys all together, so that wouldn't work.
*bump*
This is the only major annoyance I have with my wing that still does not have an acceptable solution. My fingers are quite tiny and I still hit that damn softkey instead of the T half the time. There's another thread about this and they suggested typing the message before typing the recipient but this does not work for me as I'm almost always replying to a message instead of starting a new one. Surely one of you geniuses on this wonderful forum will figure some way to fix this.... PRETTY PLEASE!?
unfortunately, the function appears to be hard coded into the sms program, so there's no way of fixing it, unless whoever makes that software recodes it.
What about disabling it for all programs? I mean I never use it for anything. It's just as easy for me to lift my thumb a few centimeters and tap the on-screen soft key instead. Personally, I'd rather do that and not have to worry about hitting it accidently. And I'm hoping, since you were able to remap keys from herald to wing, that it should be possible to remap just that one to do nothing. Of course I don't really know what I'm talking about.
I can look into it... well, the virtual keymapping I did universally affects that key on the phone ... so I don't know how it will affect the phone ... but I can mess with it and see what I can come up with. I don't know if I would be able to disable it, but maybe I can remap it to something other than "send"
I'll see if I can look into it whenever I have some time.
hi i want to assing the back button "<--" on the bottom with the OK button. i dont need the back functionality, what i want is to avoid trouble hitting OK on the top every time. someone suggested me AEbutton, that solved my problem assigning the volume button for up down navigation, but i want to assing back button to act as OK.
pl. help
Well, I've got good news. The Back button IS OK. Try it in a Settings dialog, pressing Back *will* save your changes.
You can assign actions to OK with AEBPlus.
This surprised the hell out of me - I only realized this after owning my HD for a month.
It also means that there is no PPC/HD equivalent to the Back button on smartphone devices. I had a Vox before, and was used to the Back button meaning "cancel".
JUst to add a little to that.
Is it possible in any way to disable the volume keys?
I cant stop pressing them by mistake
Bengaz said:
JUst to add a little to that.
Is it possible in any way to disable the volume keys?
I cant stop pressing them by mistake
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then just remap them so they dont work as volume keys on a single press ( i use the long press to make them go up and down, but in rreality i use the slider to actually move change volume so i dont need to even map them to the volume at all)
Ehm.... what is the slider? I read about that also in TouchLockPro and I couldn't realize what it was.
we know HTC Touch Pro2 has an on screen shutter button, do you find it difficult when you try to take photo of yourself?because you cant see the small on screen shutter button.
Do anyone know a tweak/altenative solution for this tiny shutter button?
make it bigger,or better yet,simply make it this way: the whole screen is the shutter button, you can take pictures by clicking anywhere of the screen.
I searched several hours without a thing,it seems that I am the first person who wants this.
Solution
The on screen button pissed me off too. Most particularly because I also turned off the shutter sound, so I would be holding the part of the screen thinking it took the picture...to turn the phone around and discover it only focused the image.
Install the keyboard controller for the rhodium, choose to add a key, press the PTT key "if you already have it mapped to something, don't worry. I also have apps mapped to the same button". When in the map config, click the [+] next to Rule. pull out the stylus, click the windows button, go to your camera, and stick the stylus back in. Below "Rule name" the window should say "IACSP20_Main" without the quotes. Choose "Direct key mapping", then select key "13 Enter" for the key. Finally send the key to the operating system.
What this does is: while you're in the camera window and push the PTT key, that key is pushing the enter key. It acts the same as the onscreen shutter button, as in, you have to hold the button. BUT, its a lot easier to find and easier to hold the phone when pushing the button. Good luck with your mapping.
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The on screen button pissed me off too. Most particularly because I also turned off the shutter sound, so I would be holding the part of the screen thinking it took the picture...to turn the phone around and discover it only focused the image.
Install the keyboard controller for the rhodium, choose to add a key, press the PTT key "if you already have it mapped to something, don't worry. I also have apps mapped to the same button". When in the map config, click the [+] next to Rule. pull out the stylus, click the windows button, go to your camera, and stick the stylus back in. Below "Rule name" the window should say "IACSP20_Main" without the quotes. Choose "Direct key mapping", then select key "13 Enter" for the key. Finally send the key to the operating system.
What this does is: while you're in the camera window and push the PTT key, that key is pushing the enter key. It acts the same as the onscreen shutter button, as in, you have to hold the button. BUT, its a lot easier to find and easier to hold the phone when pushing the button. Good luck with your mapping.
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Hey,thanks for your reply,so detailed,I am touched.
I tried your method,it works!
New Leo Energy Rom - this method is no longer working - camera just touch focuses - but does not "capture" - picture - any more advice?
same problem here
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New Leo Energy Rom - this method is no longer working - camera just touch focuses - but does not "capture" - picture - any more advice?
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i had it mapped to the ptt the same way on nrg cht 4/16. i didnt even have to hold the button in fact, i just pressed it and it would take a picture. now the ptt button wont take a picture at all for me.
just go to the settings and click on advanced and see if touch focus is actually on, because if its turned off then it would just focus but not take a picture.
and that solution of yours to map it to the PTT button doesnt work for everyone (like me) because some of us dont got that button, but reguardless if it works for you then thats good too
Google Rhodium keyboard controller or look for it here at xda and even in this forum. BEST software. You can map ANY button to ANY key while still maintaining the keys natural function like pressing home goes to home, and holding hole for 2 seconds opens camera, and holding vol up or down can be enter which, in camera mode, takes a picture .
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just go to the settings and click on advanced and see if touch focus is actually on, because if its turned off then it would just focus but not take a picture.
and that solution of yours to map it to the PTT button doesnt work for everyone (like me) because some of us dont got that button, but reguardless if it works for you then thats good too
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the touch focus has no effect for me. regardless whether its on or off, my ptt button wont take a pic. im gonna mess around with the rhod kb controller a bit, maybe i did something wrong there. if not, im gonna have to mess about in the registry and see what can be done there.
Edit: I fixed it. It wasnt something I did wrong w/ rhod kb controller. Went into hklm/software/htc/camera and its subfolders and changed 5 or 6 things in there, some to fix the prob and some were just changed to suit my preferences. I gotta go to work shortly, but at about 2:30 this morning I'll be able to write down all the registry changes I made and post them in this thread. Now when I press the ptt within camera, it autofocuses and then takes the pic without having to hold the button, which is nice I have CleanRam mapped to ptt long press.
well i had it working perfect yesterday when i posted, but then i booted into android for a few hours while at work, and when i went back to windows, the camera went back to doing the stupid focus and then no picture crap again. so today i went back thru everything i had messed with and tried every combination of settings i could think of, and couldnt get it to work right again.
Do you use the Rhodium Keyboard Controller to remap your hardware buttons? If so, I can give you how I setup my buttons to take pictures and such?
Yeah thats what I used with the 4/16 cht nrg rom, when mapped to open program windows/start menu/multimedia/camera.ink by single press, it would open the camera and if I pressed it again, it would take a photo. I am still using the rhodium keyboard controller, tried setting double tap to 13 and that didnt take a pic, tried pointing it at windows/camera.exe and that didnt work, thats when i went into the registry. between the keyboard controller and registry editng, i had it opening the camera and taking photos both with single press of the ptt button. i then booted android later that day cause its easier for texting while im at work. later back to windows, and the ptt would open camera but not shoot. i dont understand how changes to the registry could work to make it work like that but not survive a reset? i went back iand messed around in the registry tryin different combinations of stuff, and couldnt get the ptt to snap a shot again. possibly theres something different in camera.exe from rom to rom?
Just make one of your hardware buttons the enter button. Enter focuses and takes the picture. I make my volume keys both the enter button. Also good when using them in total commander too .
i had made my ptt = enter upon double tap and it wouldnt work, neither would the hw qwerty button. i know what ur talking about, i have always set my ptt to take pictures, even on my original tilt, usually open program - camera.ink will open camera and also take pic, but for me neither enter nor open program will work for me. its gotta be either a reg entry that i just didnt get right, or the actual camera.exe is different from build to build, which i find believable because i remember switching albums on my original tilt and to do it i would also hv to switch camera.exe's also. which reminds me, is it me or does the tp2's photo album absolutely suck? on my tilt, i could zoom down way closer, and the album was gesture driven. draw a circle w/ur finger one way would zoom in, other way zoom out, etc. love the phone, hate the picture album
Ah weird... enter should work :/...
Yeah... what happened to the gesture thing? Guess they want to "try" and make the pointless zoombar serve some sort of function even though I never use it.
I use S2V and map the dble tap send key as up, and dble tap end key as down. I've always like S2V but just wish A_C would update it.
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New Leo Energy Rom - this method is no longer working - camera just touch focuses - but does not "capture" - picture - any more advice?
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I used to do this when the pro 2 first came out and this always worked but for the last 4 months this has stoped working and it sucks cause i loved having this option. I have tried asking for help from NRG's irc chat room and they banned me for asking lol, i even tried asking in his thread several times and ppl tell me it works fine for them, but it just dont work for me. it always worked before but i flashed to a new NRG rom update and it just stopped working, cant remember when it worked last, but i do miss it!!! This option works fine on ALL other roms but NRG's
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just go to the settings and click on advanced and see if touch focus is actually on, because if its turned off then it would just focus but not take a picture.
and that solution of yours to map it to the PTT button doesnt work for everyone (like me) because some of us dont got that button, but reguardless if it works for you then thats good too
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I used to be able to pick any hardware button to make this work, i use the vol up key myself!!
Thanks zyphuris55!
enter key doesn't work for me either.
A plausible reason for the "Enter" workaround working for some people could be the use of different camera drivers.
With the HD2, the early camera drivers allowed a photo light (using the LEDs) to be used when taking a picture in the dark. However, the recent camera drivers no longer allow photo lights, and the user is dependent on a simple flash upon taking a photo.
I know that NRG and other chefs use different camera drivers (they sometimes post it in their changelogs), so this could be why some are able to use "Enter" to take photos while others can't.
If it is indeed driver-related, you can't do anything about it, as these drivers are cooked into the ROMs (cabs and reg tweaks have no effects).
P.S. At least the TP2 has a lot of buttons that can be remapped! The HD2 can only have the Send (Hold) function be remapped!