Hi all,
I need some urgent feedback from you good folks as I have been given until tomorrow to decide whether to send back my T-Mobile MDA Vario.
On the slide out keyboard, if I press the space/sym button lightly in the center it clicks once and if i press slightly harder it clicks a second time...
Is this meant to happen? Does anybody elses do this?
Haris
PS. If I press the button on either side there is only one click
Mine makes a sound like it's clicking twice but actually only does one click.
Thanks for the prompt reply sunseaker!
When you say 'does' one click, do you mean in the software? So you only get 1 space in Word even though you're hearing/feeling 2 clicks?
Yeah,so do I.I feel it was twice.But actually,it's only one space appeared in word.
That's what's happening with me, you can feel two clicks in the center but one if you press on either side, just one is showing in word.
So all Wizard Keyboards behave like this? At first I thought it may be something like a two function button ie. light press for normal space harder press for something else.
I looked in the manual for some kind of explanation but there's no mention of it...
If they really are all like this (keep the feedback coming pls) don't people find it really annoying to feel a double click happening on a frequently used button when all the other buttons function normally? (ie. click once)
The reason you get two clicks is because there's two of those little contacts below the space key - the reason for that, in turn, is that the key is pretty wide. These two contacts are on the same 'paths', though, so there's no differentiating a spacebar press on the left from one on the right.
The reason you only get 1 space is because, normally, if you press in the center in such a way that you happen to 'click' both left and right, it will be in such a short interval that the repeat is ignored. Try pressing any other key, such as a letter key, really fast (so not 'click click', but rather 'c-click') twice - it will also only enter the letter once.
It's not too annoying for me, as I either press it on the left or on the right, depending on which thumb happens to be nearest the key
Cheers Ze!
I thought it might be something to do with 2 contacts under the space bar.
Since this is not a fault (design fault maybe ) I'm happy to aim my thumbs to the corners and will rest assured that I don't have a dodgy Vario
Thanks to all that replied - I can keep my new toy! :wink:
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Please help a possible future HTC Wizard owner ! I want to be part of the club ! It's as easy as clicking "reply":
I have tried the Treo and I appreciate it's one-handed use.
Since there is no "windows" and "ok" buttons on the HTC Wizard, I assume people will remap them (either to Messages, IExplorer, or the Send button)
Do you feel that you can navigate with one hand without worrying about dropping it, since your thumb is at the bottom instead of the middle ?
If you remapped your buttons, you'd have to click on one button at the top for Start, then slide your thumb back down to select the menu item, then slide your thumb back up to click OK every time you need to close a window... it seems like a work-out !
How do you dial a number you've never dialed before when you can't look at the screen ?
I love the Treo's form factor, but the old OS, lack of multi-tasking, lack of real bluetooth and WiFi are holding me back...
Please enlighten me !
Please help a possible future HTC Wizard owner ! I want to be part of the club ! It's as easy as clicking "reply":
Always room for one more
I have tried the Treo and I appreciate it's one-handed use.
Yup
Since there is no "windows" and "ok" buttons on the HTC Wizard, I assume people will remap them (either to Messages, IExplorer, or the Send button)
I remapped the Voice Button (and set Voice Command to the IE button) and the Comm Manager button to start menu.
Do you feel that you can navigate with one hand without worrying about dropping it, since your thumb is at the bottom instead of the middle ?
I dropped it yesterday because someone bumped into me (fortunately the device survived with only a few scratches), so I don't walk around using it onehanded anymore. I hold it with one hand and push the buttons with the other. no stylus needed.
If you remapped your buttons, you'd have to click on one button at the top for Start, then slide your thumb back down to select the menu item, then slide your thumb back up to click OK every time you need to close a window... it seems like a work-out !
I haven't had a problem, but as I said above, now I use both hands for safety.
How do you dial a number you've never dialed before when you can't look at the screen ?
You can't Or you can used Voice Command (sold separately) to say "Dial" then the number
I love the Treo's form factor, but the old OS, lack of multi-tasking, lack of real bluetooth and WiFi are holding me back...
Go the Wizard!! I saw a Treo 650 in the shops yesterday, and had a hold (had no battery so I couldn't play) and the keyboard on the Wizard is much better, but the Treo's kb can be used onehanded farely easiler. It definately beats the Wizard in onehandedness, but I would pick the Wizard because of the reasons you stated, plus the use of Windows Mobile (Palm is too simple).
Please enlighten me !
You should now feel (somewhat) enlightened!
is there a way to disable the oddly placed send key that sits between the "R" and "T" keys? my big ol thumbs go crusing on emails and I end up sending emails before I am done. thanks for any feedback
i do the SAME thing- and i don't even have fat fingers...
I do that **** all the time. haha. and I have fat fingers.
I hear ya! anyone know how to change that?
does anyone use these buttons? seems easier to just touch the screen.. of course my dumb luck I would want to press the button and hit the "R" buttton instead. im glad to hear its not just me.
Happens to me too. I searched the registry for "send" but nothing interesting came up.
lol, done that a few times myself...getting a reply reading "wtf???" before you finish, and re-send is what...(shoutout to all famliy guy fans) "grinds my gears"
off the top of my head you could try AE Software's AEKMap which allows you to reassign buttons from the hardware keyboard.....but by doing so you might disable the two softkeys altogether. You can even figure out what registry entries are edited from changing the hardware keys by using a registry editing app that you control from your pc-scan before and after. I'm too lazy to try it out, maybe someone else could see if this is a possible solution *nudge* tadevinney *nudge*
Virtual keymapping would disable the soft keys all together, so that wouldn't work.
*bump*
This is the only major annoyance I have with my wing that still does not have an acceptable solution. My fingers are quite tiny and I still hit that damn softkey instead of the T half the time. There's another thread about this and they suggested typing the message before typing the recipient but this does not work for me as I'm almost always replying to a message instead of starting a new one. Surely one of you geniuses on this wonderful forum will figure some way to fix this.... PRETTY PLEASE!?
unfortunately, the function appears to be hard coded into the sms program, so there's no way of fixing it, unless whoever makes that software recodes it.
What about disabling it for all programs? I mean I never use it for anything. It's just as easy for me to lift my thumb a few centimeters and tap the on-screen soft key instead. Personally, I'd rather do that and not have to worry about hitting it accidently. And I'm hoping, since you were able to remap keys from herald to wing, that it should be possible to remap just that one to do nothing. Of course I don't really know what I'm talking about.
I can look into it... well, the virtual keymapping I did universally affects that key on the phone ... so I don't know how it will affect the phone ... but I can mess with it and see what I can come up with. I don't know if I would be able to disable it, but maybe I can remap it to something other than "send"
I'll see if I can look into it whenever I have some time.
Hi, I did a lot of searching for this but I can't come up with any solution (which is odd as it strikes me to be a problem).
I bought voice commander yesterday as I'm on the road for my company a lot and all that works perfectly. So then I tried assigning it to a hardkey (is that the right word?) on my Touch HD (uk).
Apparently some incompetent interaction designer must have thought that it was a brilliant idea to only have one hardkey and bind that hard to making calls as well. Result? Me accidentally dialling 6 people out of the 7 times that I tried using it. I can only imagine what a horror it must be when I'm driving.
So here is the question; how do I add hardkeys to the buttons menu in the settings so I can assign stuff to those buttons? Any button really, preferably the 'hang up' button. Currently there is only 'button 1' but there must be a way of tapping into those other buttons.
I'm not shy of reg editing (it has to be a key or something in the registry) or anything like that but I can't seem to find a regeditor.
I'd try the HTC helpdesk but they don't know anything really beyond the standard questions (at least not the last 3 times I tried).
Zeus2.0 said:
Hi, I did a lot of searching for this but I can't come up with any solution (which is odd as it strikes me to be a problem).
I bought voice commander yesterday as I'm on the road for my company a lot and all that works perfectly. So then I tried assigning it to a hardkey (is that the right word?) on my Touch HD (uk).
Apparently some incompetent interaction designer must have thought that it was a brilliant idea to only have one hardkey and bind that hard to making calls as well. Result? Me accidentally dialling 6 people out of the 7 times that I tried using it. I can only imagine what a horror it must be when I'm driving.
So here is the question; how do I add hardkeys to the buttons menu in the settings so I can assign stuff to those buttons? Any button really, preferably the 'hang up' button. Currently there is only 'button 1' but there must be a way of tapping into those other buttons.
I'm not shy of reg editing (it has to be a key or something in the registry) or anything like that but I can't seem to find a regeditor.
I'd try the HTC helpdesk but they don't know anything really beyond the standard questions (at least not the last 3 times I tried).
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Have you tried AEBPlus?
That requires me to run the program in the memory constantly doesn't it (and it's not freeware iirc)?
Zeus2.0 said:
That requires me to run the program in the memory constantly doesn't it (and it's not freeware iirc)?
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Yes, it does takes some resources, but it gives a lot more functionality and improves the phone greatly.
For example,
You could ingle press to forward/repeat songs or change channel in FM radio, and long press to change volume.
You could single press the green button to either do nothing or start your VOIP phone if you have one, and double press to run the regular phone. (this prevents accidental dialing the last number)
Double press the back key to close active application
etc.
Hmmm, it's a last option solution for me. It's more a matter of principle. When I buy a phone like this, I expect to be able to have access to all buttons, not just one. It's a bit stupid that I need to run an extra app to actually use my phone properly. I mean; didn't anyone at htc think that just having one button is stupid and then assigning it to the dial button is just braindead thinking?
Right, gave that program a go but it doesn't seem to be working for me.
Zeus2.0 said:
Right, gave that program a go but it doesn't seem to be working for me.
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That's because you're not familiar with how to use it yet, I think.
This is how yo use that software:
Say, you want to reassign the up volume button. First you might note that the initial defaultsetting is "do not touch button".
press and HOLD the up volume entry until
the screen for altering the setting appear.
Once that happens, the rest should be intuitively enough.
Remember later to save and exit. No need to soft reset.
Just thought I'd share this one I found.
If you hold down the "home" button for about a second you get an easy task switcher to any app that was running in the background. It's faster than hitting back till you get to the menu or getting to the menu and then finding the app you are after .
Sliding your finger across the notification window just as it drops down changes the brightness of the screen.
Any others that people have found?
You can add shortcuts to phone numbers and messages on the home screen by holding your finger down and selecting shortcuts on the home screen somewhere. This also appears to work with a lot of apps, like kindle shortcuts to a specific book.
All android phones do this, Holding the Home button is a standard android way to "Switch fast" between apps
A few things I found out reading the SGS forum here:
1. You can control the brightness by sliding your finger left to right when pulling down the notification bar. Just keep your finger on the edge of the pull down window.
2. You can have the SGS announce the title/artist of a song from the Music player by pressing and holding the Up Volume button while a song is playing.
3. You can "lock screen" while watching video by pressing Power Button while a video is playing. This is great at preventing unintended clicks while holding the phone watching a video.
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A few things I found out reading the SGS forum here:
1. You can control the brightness by sliding your finger left to right when pulling down the notification bar. Just keep your finger on the edge of the pull down window.
2. You can have the SGS announce the title/artist of a song from the Music player by pressing and holding the Up Volume button while a song is playing.
3. You can "lock screen" while watching video by pressing Power Button while a video is playing. This is great at preventing unintended clicks while holding the phone watching a video.
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I know the third one, but didn't know the first two. Thank you tenshi, for sharing.
However, I don't quite understand how exactly you can change the brightness in the day you described, cos I can't seem to do it.
Also, I got the feeling that to effect number 2, there is a monthly subscription that I need to pay to Optus. They gave me a 7 day free trial before continuing, and I did not continue.
eaglesteve, for #1, make sure auto-brightness is off in your display settings, now when you slide the notification bar panel down try sliding your finger left to right and you'll notice the display brightness change.
for #2, I don't think its connected to your provider as it doesn't even need a data connection to work, it's just using text to speech. You might have to enable or download it the first time.
eaglesteve said:
I know the third one, but didn't know the first two. Thank you tenshi, for sharing.
However, I don't quite understand how exactly you can change the brightness in the day you described, cos I can't seem to do it.
Also, I got the feeling that to effect number 2, there is a monthly subscription that I need to pay to Optus. They gave me a 7 day free trial before continuing, and I did not continue.
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eaglesteve, for #1, make sure auto-brightness is off in your display settings, now when you slide the notification bar panel down try sliding your finger left to right and you'll notice the display brightness change.
for #2, I don't think its connected to your provider as it doesn't even need a data connection to work, it's just using text to speech. You might have to enable or download it the first time.
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My auto-brightness is already off, but I still can't seem to change the brightness when sliding from left to right or right to left while pulling down the notification curtain. Any other clue?
For 2, you're right, once I downloaded the voice synthesising software from the market place, it works. I need to make sure the music player is in the foreground for this to work, right?
spenceee said:
If you hold down the "home" button for about a second you get an easy task switcher to any app that was running in the background. It's faster than hitting back till you get to the menu or getting to the menu and then finding the app you are after .
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Technically it's a "most recently used" list rather than a list of apps running in the background. For example if you have just exited a navigation app, or killed an app from a process manager, it will still appear in this list.
Interesting thread.
I just want to add some "shortcuts" I discovered myself using the Galaxy (maybe they aren't so hidden. I am a lousy user, don't like to read manuals. So maybe they are very obvious )
Close pull down window/curtain, close desktop layer folders and close keyboard by tapping back key
Access to the bookmark button and address bar in the brower by tapping the menu button (no need to scroll all the way up)
Open soft D-Pad by tap-and-hold the "?123" key on the standard Samsung Keyboard
Quick and reliable GPS reception by editing the ntp server in the gps.conf file
Someone I only just learnt...
Pressing and holding the power button performs a reset. (Keep pressing it after you get the shut down/mute/airplane options and the phone will suddenly restart. Have to keep the button pressed for 5 secs atleast).
dagrim1 said:
Someone I only just learnt...
Pressing and holding the power button performs a reset. (Keep pressing it after you get the shut down/mute/airplane options and the phone will suddenly restart. Have to keep the button pressed for 5 secs atleast).
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cool
holding menu key for about a second brings up google search.Im sure its probably a feature of all android phones and probably in the manual but im new to android and dont read manuals much.
If you´re in "contacts"
slide to the right for an instant call or slide to the left for messaging the contact
mazurson said:
If you´re in "contacts"
slide to the right for an instant call or slide to the left for messaging the contact
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cool, this is handy when you're driving
i usually double tap the contact, but if your car goes over a bump or pot hole, then the 2nd tap is missed, and wont work.
mazurson said:
If you´re in "contacts"
slide to the right for an instant call or slide to the left for messaging the contact
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SWEET, this is a great way to dial and text people from contacts
Thx for the info
1. Browsing in the Gallery
When browsing your large list of photo's in the 'Gallery', click the icon on the right to group them into date taken ~ makes browsing much more manageable.
2. Locking the Camera
If you wish to leave the camera on but worried you may accidentally touch the scrren/controls you can lock the camera.
Once you have the camera set up how you want it, simply briefly press the Power button. You will then see a white padlock appear on screen. Now you can hold the camera and phone how you like until you are ready to shoot.... When ready again briefly press the Power button, the padlock disappears and you can take your shoot/video.
sammy555 said:
holding menu key for about a second brings up google search.Im sure its probably a feature of all android phones and probably in the manual but im new to android and dont read manuals much.
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Nah, it's samsung's replacement for the search button that's a Google requirement. They don't have a button for it, so they assigned long-press menu for search, whereas on the Nexus One, it'll make force the soft-'board to come up.
yes it works...
eaglesteve said:
My auto-brightness is already off, but I still can't seem to change the brightness when sliding from left to right or right to left while pulling down the notification curtain. Any other clue?
For 2, you're right, once I downloaded the voice synthesising software from the market place, it works. I need to make sure the music player is in the foreground for this to work, right?
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At first it didn't worked for me also, because I understand bad.
Not pulling down. Go to the upper of the screen, press till the botton of the dropdown curtain appears, but don't slide it down. Once that appears the BAR move left or right your finger, and it will adjust.
pafh99 said:
At first it didn't worked for me also, because I understand bad.
Not pulling down. Go to the upper of the screen, press till the botton of the dropdown curtain appears, but don't slide it down. Once that appears the BAR move left or right your finger, and it will adjust.
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Ah yes, I got it to work too. The trick is not to pull it down but just to make the curtain barely appear before you slide.
Thanks for your excellent explanation.
sammy555 said:
cool
holding menu key for about a second brings up google search.Im sure its probably a feature of all android phones and probably in the manual but im new to android and dont read manuals much.
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Thanks, didn't know this one. Very useful and now I can get rid of the google search bar on the desktop too
when receiving a call press the volume down button to mute th ringer
old but cool
I realize that if you start typing with the hardware keyboard on the home screen it will automatically enter what you've typed into a search. However I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed the following: When typing a text message if I end up (accidentally at first, and now every time I purposefully do it) pushing multiple keys at the same time toward the middle of the keyboard various, apparently random things happen. For example it may start a search, it may cause the screen to go back to my list of conversation, or even all the way back to the home screen. Try it for yourself and let me know!
i tried and nothin weird happens. perhaps u are hitting the back, home or search keys on the side of the keyboard, or maybe u have a defective keyboard.
ravizzle said:
i tried and nothin weird happens. perhaps u are hitting the back, home or search keys on the side of the keyboard, or maybe u have a defective keyboard.
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I definitely made sure I was only pressing the very center buttons. It seemed to happen only with the "ghjb" keys, but you have to press them at the same time, multiple times. I wouldn't be extremely surprised if the keyboard is defective though...
there is a menu in the settings that has "shortcut" key commands... you can go edit this list and/or delete them so this won't happen.
infamousjax said:
there is a menu in the settings that has "shortcut" key commands... you can go edit this list and/or delete them so this won't happen.
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I turned all of them off and that didn't change it either. I played around with it some more and found a pattern, so if anyone else would care to try this and report if it happens to them that'd be awesome...when in a conversation in the messaging app, if I hit "g" and hold it down then push "h" it brings up the menu that would normally pop up if one hit the menu button (it also types those two letters into the box for text). If I do the same thing but add "j" at the end, it functions like the back button (again typing those three letters, which end up being saved as a draft). Holding down more letters is a little harder, but doing so has actually caused the phone to freeze to the point that the battery must be taken out. Probably heading to exchange at store tomorrow.
I'm not having the aforementioned issue, but I am having the issue of typing fast on the keyboard and the keyboard skipping keys that I know I have pressed. I think it may be due to the sensitivity of they hardware keys - in that I am not hitting the ones that are skipped "hard enough". This has been confirmed by a few of my friends with Epics, but it's a minor issue and is resolved by merely typing "harder".
Anyone else?
i tried to replicate the issue, but couldnt. Try exchanging ur epic and see if u still get the issue
oxeneers said:
I'm not having the aforementioned issue, but I am having the issue of typing fast on the keyboard and the keyboard skipping keys that I know I have pressed. I think it may be due to the sensitivity of they hardware keys - in that I am not hitting the ones that are skipped "hard enough". This has been confirmed by a few of my friends with Epics, but it's a minor issue and is resolved by merely typing "harder".
Anyone else?
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Same here, I came from the TP2 and I didn't had to press that hard, it kinda bugs me also.
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