Hi, I did a lot of searching for this but I can't come up with any solution (which is odd as it strikes me to be a problem).
I bought voice commander yesterday as I'm on the road for my company a lot and all that works perfectly. So then I tried assigning it to a hardkey (is that the right word?) on my Touch HD (uk).
Apparently some incompetent interaction designer must have thought that it was a brilliant idea to only have one hardkey and bind that hard to making calls as well. Result? Me accidentally dialling 6 people out of the 7 times that I tried using it. I can only imagine what a horror it must be when I'm driving.
So here is the question; how do I add hardkeys to the buttons menu in the settings so I can assign stuff to those buttons? Any button really, preferably the 'hang up' button. Currently there is only 'button 1' but there must be a way of tapping into those other buttons.
I'm not shy of reg editing (it has to be a key or something in the registry) or anything like that but I can't seem to find a regeditor.
I'd try the HTC helpdesk but they don't know anything really beyond the standard questions (at least not the last 3 times I tried).
Zeus2.0 said:
Hi, I did a lot of searching for this but I can't come up with any solution (which is odd as it strikes me to be a problem).
I bought voice commander yesterday as I'm on the road for my company a lot and all that works perfectly. So then I tried assigning it to a hardkey (is that the right word?) on my Touch HD (uk).
Apparently some incompetent interaction designer must have thought that it was a brilliant idea to only have one hardkey and bind that hard to making calls as well. Result? Me accidentally dialling 6 people out of the 7 times that I tried using it. I can only imagine what a horror it must be when I'm driving.
So here is the question; how do I add hardkeys to the buttons menu in the settings so I can assign stuff to those buttons? Any button really, preferably the 'hang up' button. Currently there is only 'button 1' but there must be a way of tapping into those other buttons.
I'm not shy of reg editing (it has to be a key or something in the registry) or anything like that but I can't seem to find a regeditor.
I'd try the HTC helpdesk but they don't know anything really beyond the standard questions (at least not the last 3 times I tried).
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Have you tried AEBPlus?
That requires me to run the program in the memory constantly doesn't it (and it's not freeware iirc)?
Zeus2.0 said:
That requires me to run the program in the memory constantly doesn't it (and it's not freeware iirc)?
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Yes, it does takes some resources, but it gives a lot more functionality and improves the phone greatly.
For example,
You could ingle press to forward/repeat songs or change channel in FM radio, and long press to change volume.
You could single press the green button to either do nothing or start your VOIP phone if you have one, and double press to run the regular phone. (this prevents accidental dialing the last number)
Double press the back key to close active application
etc.
Hmmm, it's a last option solution for me. It's more a matter of principle. When I buy a phone like this, I expect to be able to have access to all buttons, not just one. It's a bit stupid that I need to run an extra app to actually use my phone properly. I mean; didn't anyone at htc think that just having one button is stupid and then assigning it to the dial button is just braindead thinking?
Right, gave that program a go but it doesn't seem to be working for me.
Zeus2.0 said:
Right, gave that program a go but it doesn't seem to be working for me.
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That's because you're not familiar with how to use it yet, I think.
This is how yo use that software:
Say, you want to reassign the up volume button. First you might note that the initial defaultsetting is "do not touch button".
press and HOLD the up volume entry until
the screen for altering the setting appear.
Once that happens, the rest should be intuitively enough.
Remember later to save and exit. No need to soft reset.
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What is the Jog Button program?
It seems to have installed itself on one of my hardware buttons and ocassionally scrolls through several functions when that button is pressed.
I know how to change the button assignment but am wondering if there is something about Jog Button that we will want to use?
JogButton was just a freeware app we liked which allows multiple functions to be controlled by a single button. Feel free to re-assign the apps using JogButton's 'Tools' menu, or to use the button for something else entirely.
X
Thanks for the quick reply.
Do you know where I can find a help file for instructions for Jog Button?
I couldn't find it within the device and in playing with the program it just doesn't come to me.
JogButton Instructions
Fairly simple once you get the hang of it...
1. Press-and-hold the contacts button to activate JogButton. This causes the programs in its list to scroll/cycle
2. Release the contacts button when the icon of a program that you want to activate appears
Setup
1. Press-and-hold the contacts button
2. Click on the tools menu at bottom of screen
3. Select setup from the tools menu
4. The dialog that shows lists the programs and order of cycle.
5. Add/Delete/Edit as desired
6. The Snd check box is a toggle for sound/no-sound (a beep as each program is shown)
7. Duration is the number of milliseconds that an icon is shown
Hopefully that answers you questions
I'm the author...
Tek
Thanks for the reply. You are a genius!
This seems like a very handy app.
Joe_PDA
other buttons
What about using this very simple app on the calender button.
Have your "serious" stuff on one side,
then "toys" on the other..
I presume you have future plans, so give us a clue please
Perhaps even ask for ideas...
Martin
JogButton - Future Plans...
I started coding an alt-tab like feature into JogButton, but was not sure if that would be useful for anyone other than me. As you may know alt-tab in the Windows world scrolls you through the open list of of apps in a Last-in-first-out/Most Recently Used fashion. This would be useful for switching between two apps, the downside would be that you would have to remember the order. I was thinking of putting a toggle on either the menu or in the setup dialog to select this mode.
As for using two buttons, it is possible,but the way PocketPC handles the programs assigned to a button they have to have different names. I would of course have to make a few minor adjustments to allow for this, but it is possible.
I'm up for any suggestions to make this program more useful. Start a list and let's see what we get.
8)
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I'm up for any suggestions to make this program more useful. Start a list and let's see what we get.
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Bug: by timing a quick press just right, I can get it in a mode where it keeps cycling through the programs even though I've released the button already.
I think I was unable to map it to both the hardware buttons using a different list of programs to cycle through for each button. Since a single short press still does the same thing, there's really no reason not to map it to the second button also. (?? Quick hack: map second button to patched Jogbutton2.exe, using different set of registry keys. Better: multiple small stubs which start the real exe telling it which stub was executed. ??)
Maybe map a special action to pressing both buttons at the same time?
Also, something like 'double-press' and 'triple-press' found in some other programs to quickly go to the second and third item (or completely different items) without looking at the phone would be handy. I never really use the rocker-switch, but it could be handy for app starting: just keep the hardware button pressed and hit one of the four directions or the center, giving you 5 new things (per hardware button) to start.
JogButton...
Good suggestions. I can enhance it to use all available buttons. I prefer to use one hand, but others might like to have more options available.
hmm, must be a n00b suggestion, but perhaps it would be possible to use the volume control button? i dont use it for anything anyway.
Only two options... that I know of...
On the XDA/MDA PPCPE there are only two mappable buttons, unlike other PPC that have four or five. It's either the contacts button or the calendar button. Now once an app is mapped to either button and the app is launched, it can control any of the buttons. As a side note, the volume button would be great if it were dual functioning: a press-and-release brings up the volume dialog; a press-and-hold would bring up the record function.
Is there a way to assign the action button to open the start menu or, preferably the cascading startmenus of wisbar? I had a search around but came up wih nothing
Nedge, which one do you want? There's different solution depending on which you want.
One way that would work on both is to use MortRun and send a left mouseclick to (0,0).
It's probably a bad idea to assign this to the actino button, even if you could, because then you'd lose the ability to use the action button. So how would you select anything?
V
Hehe, yeh i was thinking that but i thought there might be a today plugin or something that would monitor whether you were in the today screen or not. If you were: Action = Start Menu. If you weren't: Action= Select. Ah well, guess i'll stick with contacts button as start menu.
I'll check out mortrun tho, cheers
I used to use Buttonmax.
I found it quite flaky on the Magician, often losing button configs, and i think most of these buttonmappers are incompatible with password software that requires you to enter passwords using hardware keys (like 1-pass).
However, if it works for you, buttonmax allows per application mapping of keys, so yeah, that would work!
V
oooo...i'll try that, thanks
EDIT: So far so good with button max, working perfectly, just what i needed. Cheers
Hello,
Just got my TyTn and got a question.
If i got a long email (about 34k just plane text) this is a lot of text.
With my tytn and the jogwheel it is possible to scroll down a page (or scroll up a page of course)
I was wondering, is there a way to make this shorter, so that the jogwheel doesnt schroll a complete page, but a half a page or maybe just 3 lines.
When i read a complete page the backight of my tytn turns dark.
Reminder: i do not want to change the settings in backlight! this is exactly the way i want it, but when i scroll more often the backlight stay on.
Please help
I hope it is possible.
Paul
Anyone have any solution to this?
It's bothering me too.
Thanks
Not only that problam bothering me...after installing the aebutton plus now my ok (Side One) button doesnt bring down the start menu any more and sometimes my green dialar button doesnt work too....does....i have tried uninstalling the aebutton plus...but stll im facing the probs...does there have anyway to retrive it to its default behaviour without hard reseting....i tried the button menu from setting but seems this button is not listed there...
any help will be apprecieted...
ghozd said:
Hello,
Just got my TyTn and got a question.
If i got a long email (about 34k just plane text) this is a lot of text.
With my tytn and the jogwheel it is possible to scroll down a page (or scroll up a page of course)
I was wondering, is there a way to make this shorter, so that the jogwheel doesnt schroll a complete page, but a half a page or maybe just 3 lines.
When i read a complete page the backight of my tytn turns dark.
Reminder: i do not want to change the settings in backlight! this is exactly the way i want it, but when i scroll more often the backlight stay on.
Please help
I hope it is possible.
Paul
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Been playing around with my new TyTn also. I'm about to install all the software I had on my Wizard, when I was using my Wizard, Tweaks2k2 had an option for smooth scrolling, I'll see if it will change anything.
sajib said:
Not only that problam bothering me...after installing the aebutton plus now my ok (Side One) button doesnt bring down the start menu any more and sometimes my green dialar button doesnt work too....does....i have tried uninstalling the aebutton plus...but stll im facing the probs...does there have anyway to retrive it to its default behaviour without hard reseting....i tried the button menu from setting but seems this button is not listed there...
any help will be apprecieted...
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Make sure you turn off the volume adjustments that are assigned by default to Button #4075. After doing this my buttons function normally allowing me to call the start menu from the side button and the volume calls are eliminated.
aadadams said:
Make sure you turn off the volume adjustments that are assigned by default to Button #4075. After doing this my buttons function normally allowing me to call the start menu from the side button and the volume calls are eliminated.
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Which software ur refering to??? AEButton Plus?? Coz i Cant find button #4075 in the button list...
sajib;1025213 said:
Which software ur refering to??? AEButton Plus?? Coz i Cant find button #4075 in the button list...
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I use the latest AEBPlus. If you use the add button function you can add the OK buttons and retain the start menu actuation via the side OK button while making those buttons actually close applications.
aadadams said:
Make sure you turn off the volume adjustments that are assigned by default to Button #4075. After doing this my buttons function normally allowing me to call the start menu from the side button and the volume calls are eliminated.
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How do I turn of the volume adjustments?
thewall;1025614 said:
How do I turn of the volume adjustments?
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Under Options>Volume Adjustments make sure all entries are NOT checked.
aadadams said:
Under Options>Volume Adjustments make sure all entries are NOT checked.
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Hmmm, strange. i can't seem to find that option under options. We are talking about options in AEBplus right? Only thing that says volume on it is "restore volume slider". Is this the one I should uncheck all items?
Thanks for helping out dude.
thewall said:
Hmmm, strange. i can't seem to find that option under options. We are talking about options in AEBplus right? Only thing that says volume on it is "restore volume slider". Is this the one I should uncheck all items?
Thanks for helping out dude.
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That's the correct name. I was coming from my memory. There are three options in there make sure none are checked.
Thanks for helping out aadadams. Still having problems though. After a while the windows button won't open start menu and neither will ok button on the side of Tytn. Too bad, I really liked the function to be able to really close programs with hardware ok button.
Not entirely related but similar, I was wondering whether it is possible to get the scroll wheel to scroll quickly through the contacts list using the 'big letter' lookup? I know of a couple of people who say the phone has randomly done this for them but they can't figure out how.
thewall said:
Thanks for helping out aadadams. Still having problems though. After a while the windows button won't open start menu and neither will ok button on the side of Tytn. Too bad, I really liked the function to be able to really close programs with hardware ok button.
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I do not have a problem with the side button. When pressed while on the today screen it launches the start menu. How are your buttons mapped? Have you assigned multiple functions to these buttons that fail over time?
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Not entirely related but similar, I was wondering whether it is possible to get the scroll wheel to scroll quickly through the contacts list using the 'big letter' lookup? I know of a couple of people who say the phone has randomly done this for them but they can't figure out how.
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I have not seen this but would welcome it.
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I do not have a problem with the side button. When pressed while on the today screen it launches the start menu. How are your buttons mapped? Have you assigned multiple functions to these buttons that fail over time?
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Nope, only thing I've done is add button and pressed ok hardware button. Then I mapped it to close active program or whatever the term is.
It shows up as button 4075 I think.
Wierd, I did basically the same thing with that button but I remapped several others to extend their fuunctionality. I have never had that happed. My next question is what other apps are you running especially immature apps that may cause the conflict.
Hmm, not running that much else. Wisbar advance and pocketbreeze. That's about it.
I do not use Wisbar apps and sine it does make changes to native start and ok functions it could be the problem. Run without it for day or so and see what happens.
With only wisbar and no aeb+ everything has been ok, will uninstall wisbar and try only aeb instead.
Does anyone know a registry hack yet for making it possible to remap ALL hardware buttons (or at least the OK button below the jog-wheel, cause this seems to be hard-coded to the Windows-menu) !?
Preferably a reg-hack that (re)enables this options in the regular \Settings\Buttons tab...
Another problem i want to fix (apart from the ROM being immature) is the fact that i have to go all the way into the Bluetooth-settings on the CommManager screen to connect my Jabra 620s in stereo/audio-mode, which is quite anoying and timeconsuming...
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
Anyone able to help me here ?
PS: i'm quite experienced WM user dating back to the Wyvern/PalmsizePC CE 2.12 devices...but i just can't seem to find my way around these huge registries in todays devices anymore... guess i'm getting old...
Anyone please ...?
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
Mark One said:
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
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I don't have my Trinity yet, but have you tried some of the 3rd party Button remappers that are available? Magic Button etc.
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I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
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I got my Trinity last friday and am using a 2Gb MiniSD card and so far no problems with it. I feel no real delay when coming out of standby mode and no problem at all with the MiniSD card, maybe you got a early version of the ROM that contained this particular problems.
I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine.
Lets see if someone suggests a good 3rd party tool to remap the buttons and then everybody is happy ;-)
VC with BT headset
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Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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Yes...you're right...it does work when the screen of my trinity is on. But offcourse when listening to music the screen is gonna be off...
The button on the headset does activate voicecommand when device is on (ie screen on) and no music is playing. But i'd rather have it understand my commands like "what track is this" while music plays (without having to take out the phone of my pocket).
As for the button-mapping: i'm familiar with the buttonmappers out there, but another application on my trinity is just not what i need... Is there really no way to get to this functionality through the registry ? I've searched quite a chunk of the registry but gave up; i just can't find it...
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...I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine...
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Precisely: one handed operation... That's what i want, so i want the button next to the jogdial to be the ALT+TAB function (which is available through Spb PocketPlus)...so i want to be able to map this to whatever button i like, not just the 2 options HTC gave me... (i don't count press'n hold as an extra button).
I think it's quite ridiculous to have TWO buttons activating the startmenu, and have them hardcoded to that. What's the point in 2 buttons doing the same thing ?
Being able to change the 'Windows' button woukld also be a fine sollution...
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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i tried it, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware button !!! >.<
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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i tried AE Button Plus, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware buttons
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
V
tommytao said:
Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
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And pressing Camera button, the Start Menu Button event will be triggered. it seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
vijay555 said:
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
V
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OK OK !!! Let me find him
tommytao said:
[...] It seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
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So it seems AE Button Plus is not the THE perfect tool for that, anyone tried another soft ?
Hi guys,
I'm too looking for a way to remap the startmenu-button for e.g. starting an application. No 3rd party software I tried so far is able to do so...
Any suggestion how to reassign the startmenue button to call a specific application?
Cheers
Punga
AEButton Plus maps all but the standby button...
... on my Wizard. Well, it doesn't touch the soft-reset, the camera gets funky when I try to map it, and I can't seem to move the vibrate function off the hold "Comm Manger" Key. Given I've got 50 different hardware button options, (or 37 added if I leave all the default functioning in place) with this nifty shareware (basically fully functional if you want to use it free forever), who cares about the dumb camera button (not in the count above).
My biggest problem is remebering where I mapped it all. My second is making decisions about how to map them.... :|| (that's a repeat sign in music-talk)
You gotta try it. I'd be curious to find out how it works on your hardware.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Hi all!
Suddenly today I've noticed something...I never use the BACK hardware key on my diamond. The reason is that this button doesn't seem to make anything different than the HOME button. (of course, I may be wrong! If so, please someone point that difference.) So, the obvious idea came to me: why don't we try to remap this button.
I know that there are apps that do just that (AEBPlus for example) but if you tried these programs you know they use up to 20% of RAM (I'm talking about AEBPlus again). So this is not the best option.
Rather than these 3rd party software, I was thinking to remap the button before the RAM is cocked by means of hard-coding. Sadly for me I do not possess this kind of knowledge so I ask kindly if someone could do this for the community (if it can be done).
I thought that this button could have a similar function as the ALT-TAB but to tell you the truth anything would be better than the original function.
Waiting for your replays...
Or maybe more easier with a registry hack. I am also interested in remapping the back button!
great minds think alike, but not always on the same schedule.
i was just looking into remapping my buttons with something other than AEBplus. i have an HD2, so the built-iin button remapper only gives me control over a long press of the send button; i'm looking into remapping the back button into a short-press "alt+tab" solution and a long-press to open my task manager.
then i searched and found this: forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1770782&postcount=1
it's basically noting how you can use shortcut files, renamed and placed in your Windows folder, that remap your buttons. just create a shortcut file and rename it with "long" or "short" button depress followed by an underscore and the documented name of the button, with the standard shortcut ".lnk" filetype, e.g. Long_Send.lnk or Short_Home.lnk. then go into the link properties and set the target to what app you want the button action to open. once built, move the shortcut file to the Windows folder and soft reset the device. et voila.
the only problem is the Back button, specifically. all the other buttons have a single, remappable function when depressed. unfortunately, the Back button is programmed to be "situationally aware" and can perform one of 3 functions based on the situation it's used in. there's an MSDN blog entry here that explains not only the uniqueness of the back button, but how it functions: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms912123.aspx
anyways, gonna look into it some more this morning to see how i can remap the sucker with as little resources as possible, if it can be done at all, or how to do it if someone else already has, and in the case of the latter, i'll report back and bump the thread that has the answers.
-oakie
edit: no urls for me yet. fill in your own address bars. :jerkit:
edit 2: AND a 5 minute freeze between posts/edits. at this point, why even bother with registration captchas? or even new registrations at all? sounds like current members and admins would rather turn people off/away than risk a spammer gettin thru. :madjerkit: