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My Screen Doesnt Work, screentaps beep though!

Hello everyone
This is my first post, i usually browse these forums to pick knowledge but im in an hour of need please
I have the orange M5000, (universal or xda exec)
Everything works as it rings when you dial its number, button presses are acknowledged, even screen taps give you beeps!
but neither the screen lights up andneither does it show anything.
is there something i can do please? i must be pressing a button wrong or something!
tried resets etc.
Please could someone help
many thanks
"G"

when you take the battery out and then put it back in and press the power button does the screen show anything?
If not back to the store me thinks.
Anyone else?
JAmes

Hello,
the connector between the screen and mainboard sounds like it is either loose or frayed ( it is a collection of wires and not a ribbon.)
I would contact www.htceurope.com and arrange a repair as the unit should still be under warranty unless it's been noticebly dropped.
Richard

james, i tried the resets also taking the battery out,sadly the problem persisted after this too
richard thanks so much for putting that website forward as i didnt even know it existed
the orange shop i got it from i would never ever visit again, terrible service and nil knowledge.
i have gone through the process on htc's website and will send it for repair tomorrow
thanks so much again!
has anyone else sent anything to htc for warranty work before?
many thanks
"G"

someone just also informed me that the screen is not designed to be turned 360 degrees but only 180 degrees,maybe this is what did it? whatif i turned it around to close it instead ofturning it back the way it came.
oh well, i have printed a tick sheet so willdispatch it tomorrow
thanks so much again for your help.#
G

I recon you wouldnt have noticed you were doing bad if you turned it through the not turnable part.
hope the repair gets it sorted for you
JAmes

thanks james!
me too! i could always walk into another orange shop but theyre only going to probably send it to htc for repair anyway so why not go straight!
thanks all
G

If you plug the unit in to power, is the screen still dark? Did you do a hard reset? If not, do so. You don't have much to lose. If one presses the backlight button and power buttons in a certain sequence, the backlight slider goes to '0' and the screen will appear to be black. If you look at it under strong light you will see that you can make out the icons etc. on the screen. If this is the case, go to settings and backlight and move the sliders up. If you have hard reset the device then this is all moot.

If you plug the unit in to power, is the screen still dark? Did you do a hard reset? If not, do so. You don't have much to lose. If one presses the backlight button and power buttons in a certain sequence, the backlight slider goes to '0' and the screen will appear to be black. If you look at it under strong light you will see that you can make out the icons etc. on the screen. If this is the case, go to settings and backlight and move the sliders up. If you have hard reset the device then this is all moot.

chetccox
thanks for your reply. i tried using the backlight button like you said but nothing. even under light nothing shows up on the screen unfortunately
hopefully htc can fix it for me, fingers crossed!
thanks a lot for replying sir all the best
G

NaughtyLondonBoy said:
someone just also informed me that the screen is not designed to be turned 360 degrees but only 180 degrees,maybe this is what did it? whatif i turned it around to close it instead ofturning it back the way it came.
G
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Surprisingly enough it is easily done...I have a jasjar that doesn't stop if you try to rotate it further than 180. They have re-designed the hinge / twist bracket with more pronounced ridges on the XDA exec I had in bits to stop this. If in doubt, deny all knowledge, if you've been able to do that without noticing, it's a design flaw IMO.
HTCEurope are actually very good for repairs, you can log in and see the progress of your repair on their site, and compared to some of the other official service agents ( SBE / imate ) they are also reasonably priced if your units is not covered byt warranty eg if you smashed the screen.
Don't ever bother sending a phone back via orange unless it's accidental damage and you have orangecare - they just send it on to HTC so you're only delaying it. The only downside is you have to pay for the postage to send it to them. An upside of using HTC directly though is you can pay for a cosmetic refurb if needed at the same time.
Richard

You are welcome, but sorry you were not able to find a solution. Can you actually turn your screen through 360 degrees? There are mechanical stops to prevent this, but they can of course be broken by force. One turn would probably not damage the wire inside, as I have seen it. More than once however, and you have no doubt broken the connection. Since the screen still beeps, it sounds like the main connection to the lcd is gone. Even with the backlight for the lcd screen completely disconnected the lcd will still show charaters under strong light. Have you actually done a 'hard' reset? This is the one where you hold the two soft keys (with the '-' on them) at the same time you press the reset button on the back of the unit. If you see nothing after this, you definitely need to send it in for repair.

richard thanks will remember to always use htc directly in future too. hopefully they wont charge me for the work, but if they do its probably my own fault, just wish i knew how i broke it lol
chetccox, i understand now how the cable mustve broken inside. this is because i can easily turn the screen through no problem, even in the manual there is no mention of this, there is even NO ADVICE ON HOW TO OPEN OR CLOSE THE SCREEN!
thanks for your input, i tried the hard rest too, nthing on the screen again! oh well, very unfortunate, was really looking forward to this!
i think ill sell this on and get something like the xda3 again. i had a mini s before i gave that to my cousin for his birthday. i never got on with it, too slow for me, im not educated enough to change roms etc etc etc
thanks all
G

Hi Guys
Have been checking the HTC wesbite frantically since last week to see how my pda is getting on with its warranty repair and this is the status it shows.
Timestamp Status
22/02/2006 08:59:36 RECEIVED
01/03/2006 09:00:27 ON-HOLD
what does it mean when it says on-hold?
this is the status of my Xda Exec (SPV M5000 actually) what does that mean please? can anyone help
Many thanks
G

Well, here is what ON-HOLD means!
Is it worth arguing or shall i just pay it and cut my losses? Not once does it say this in the manual anywhere!
Please let me know what you guys think.
Thanks again
G
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Dear Mr Sood,
Thank you for returning your phone to us.
Unfortunately our technicians have found that the screen has been turned through more than 180 degrees damaging the co-axial cable. As accidental damage is not covered by the warranty this will be a chargeable repair at a cost of £77.40 inclusive of vat and delivery. This may be paid by credit/debit card at our website, www.htceurope.com, using your case number and password. Please let me know if you can’t find either of these.
Payment may also be made by cheque or postal order made payable to HTC Europe Co Ltd, and sent to:
Tim Morvan
HTC Europe
Capella House
Snowdon Drive
Milton Keynes
MK6 1AJ.
Thank you.
Tim Morvan

SubTotal Item Chk
£25.00 A62 Average small repair
£6.87 S27 Courier
£34.00 S29 Labour
LOL only in our country can the labour be more than the actual cost of repair
Theres a box online where i can choose to disagree. DO you think i stand anywhere? i dont mind paying it but when i bought the phone i cooldnt feel anything stopping the screen
Cheers
G

i wouldnt pay the monies... i would argue its a design fault.. search the internet for othe rpeple with same problem.
also point out that nowhere in the documents does it warn you about 360 rotations.

NaughtyLondonBoy said:
SubTotal Item Chk
£25.00 A62 Average small repair
£6.87 S27 Courier
£34.00 S29 Labour
LOL only in our country can the labour be more than the actual cost of repair
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While it's a shame they are not fixing it under warranty, the quote is reasonable IMO as you can't buy the cable for love nor money, and I've changed one, it's fiddly and took me at least an hour. £25 for the part and 1 hour's labour is fairy snuff, I'd pay it no question if it were me.
NaughtyLondonBoy said:
Theres a box online where i can choose to disagree. DO you think i stand anywhere? i dont mind paying it but when i bought the phone i cooldnt feel anything stopping the screen
Cheers
G
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You could try - it's not like they'll put the price up for you querying it?
There *are* others who have had the same problem as well.
Richard

Timestamp Status
22/02/2006 08:59:36 RECEIVED
01/03/2006 09:00:27 ON-HOLD
10/03/2006 13:37:11 OFF-HOLD
11/03/2006 11:11:45 REPAIRING
11/03/2006 11:26:00 REPAIRED
LOLOL, took them 15 minutes to do, so that means £140 an hour! nearly as much as what I make {{wishful thinking}} :roll:
I cannot complain, as i t was most probably my fault it broke. I think ill go back to the xda 3 :twisted: very soild phone
Thanks everyone for your help and support.

NaughtyLondonBoy said:
Timestamp Status
22/02/2006 08:59:36 RECEIVED
01/03/2006 09:00:27 ON-HOLD
10/03/2006 13:37:11 OFF-HOLD
11/03/2006 11:11:45 REPAIRING
11/03/2006 11:26:00 REPAIRED
LOLOL, took them 15 minutes to do, so that means £140 an hour! nearly as much as what I make {{wishful thinking}} :roll:
I cannot complain, as i t was most probably my fault it broke. I think ill go back to the xda 3 :twisted: very soild phone
Thanks everyone for your help and support.
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I dunno about your phone but my QTEK 9000 had a sticker on the screen when it was fresh out of the box. This sticker did state that you cannot turn it more than 180º. Maybe it's just QTEK that took the time to put this sticker.

White screen - is my Wizard dead.

my first for ages.
I recently purchased a wizard which looks to be virtually brand new.
now the other day I updated it the the o2 uk latest rom as it was running a really old rom.
and it has been running perfectly, i have not looked into running any other rom or performance upgrades etc.
now I was using the device in landscape and after closing the unit my screen went bright white and my pride and joy is now not usable.
I can still acept calls, the touch screen still works but the screen is pure white.
Ive contact a few places and they all say the screen has died and needs replacing
Does this sound right.
its a £80 fix if this is right. im so gutted.
any advice is great before i pack it up and send it off.

anyone please....

Can you put it into bootloader mode? If not i would say you have a loose connection on the screen to the mainboard i had the same problem with my old phone the screen disconnected for the main board so no display! If you cant get it replaced take it apart and carefully check the connections if still doesnt work i would try another screen or buy one.

even when i reset it, it stays whits so cant see anyhting on screen,
ive had someone take it apart and re-seat the cables and still just a white screen
so im off to purchase another one in hope this is all thats gone

as your phone is booting up press and hold the camera button, is the screen still white?

cant tell now. ive sent if off for repair.
Im gutted.

bleep said:
cant tell now. ive sent if off for repair.
Im gutted.
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I had a similar issue, the keyboard sliding in and out must have worn out the switch that detects when it is open/closed. I had had my wizard a year and the screen started flickering, i dealt with it for a while, then the scree was stuck blank white unless if i pressed on the area of the phone that had the contact.
I had to send it back and got a refurb.
sounds like thats what happened to you too. Hopefully when you get it back it will be good as new

ive sent mine for a screen replacement tho not a repair.
now im worrying that its gonna come back in the same state.
Gulp

got my wizard back after having the screen replaced.
2 days later when ever i touch the bottom of the screen with pen, finger or even breath on it.
the screen goes off and the phone locks up and dies.
I have to take battery out and restart it and it then works great till i touch the bottom again.
Sound like a dodgy screen or something else.

Seems like a flexi strip(The one conecying the display to the mother board) sometimes if the strip develops a tear or is not properly connected this issue usually happens.

the shop doing the repair have said there is the following issues
1- padding issue on the screen (either too much or not enough)
2- Problems with the main board. (something on there is failling, hardware wise)
How the hell could this be happening on a device that was working perfectly
apart from the screen had died.
have they done more damage attempting the repair... I think so .!

I had the white screen 6 months ago. Luckily still under warranty period so got it repaired. It was the flexo-cable. since the fix no problem so far despites using the phone (also in landscape mode) daily.

when i got it back after the screen was replaced my xda worked great but as stated as soon as some preasure was applied to the bottom of the screen it would just die there and then.
I would have to take the battery out and then it would power on as normal
but again if i put presure on the bottom of the screen.. bang DEAD !
so sent it back to them and they told me what I stated above !
now waiting 2wks to hear what they are gonna do about it
not a happy bunny

still nothing back from the company thats doing the repair.
i dont know why they do this.
Im now thinking of getting my Xda back, selling it either on here or ebay and purchasing a new one.
Should i quit now or wait out for the miracle that they fix it completly.

Anyone in the uk reconmend a good repair company please im pulling my hair out.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303872
theres your answer

Digitizer replacement?

The warranty for my HD is gone and I would probably need to change the touch screen digitizer myself, found these on ebay for ~60€, but does anyone know how to change them? Again, any help would be appreciated!
Originally:
HTC Touch HD, it has been a wonderful phone until now. I have encountered a wierd problem with the touchscreen.
First the touchscreen stopped working completely, after awhile it suddenly started working, at first it recognized some bits and pieces but now it recognizes every touch as normal, except..
It is very inaccurate and the "sum of inaccurity" seems to change depending on where I push the screen, the screen alignment option in settings does not fix this.
I recorded two videos to show this problem better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd1vjiHr2QU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TynTTFIQJv8
Any help would be appreciated on how to fix this!

looks broken id return under warrenty did it get any knocks / drops? do you have insurance?~

spzero said:
looks broken id return under warrenty did it get any knocks / drops? do you have insurance?~
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I have handled it with great care so no big knocks or drops. Ill contact the store about the warranty. Just wondered if theres a way how to simply fix this.
Just noticed, the screen works normally sometimes for one touch, then it goes back to the inaccurate **** :/
Im now guessing that some cable could be loose or something like that?

Have u tried recalibrating the screen? I can't remember exactly where I found it, but its in programs or settings somewhere.

Viba said:
...the screen alignment option in settings does not fix this...
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Yes I have..
Anyway I RMA'd it now. Hope I get a new one

I can tell you from previous experience, HTC does NOT warranty touch screens. You mentioned "a store", so I hope they help you, because HTC will not. >sigh<

Seems a little unfair if they don't seeing as the HD is purely touch screen!

SomethingWicked said:
I can tell you from previous experience, HTC does NOT warranty touch screens. You mentioned "a store", so I hope they help you, because HTC will not. >sigh<
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Hmmh, well the store probably sends it to some service center here in Finland that fixes HTC phones.
Indeed sounds very stupid if the warranty doesnt cover the touchscreen.
Perhaps my HD suffered from something else than a broken touchscreen, eg. mainboard or a chip that controls the touch screen. Who knows I'm just hoping it "passes" the warranty :|

Well... Had Hard-SPL on my touch hd and duttys 1.7 rom, so the warranty is gone
Didn't know they were so picky about it, they said it would cost 605€ to repair the screen. So now I should probably start looking for a screen digitizer on ebay and some help on how to change it... Already downloaded the service manual, but there was nothing on how to change the digitizer, could anyone here show me some light to this? Thanks.

I have dismantle my HD to see if there's any way to change only the screen (it's broken)
There's no way, as far as I saw. You have to replace LCD, tourch screen and screen. It's one piece and there's no way easy way to open it without break it.
You can find all of them for about 200E.

drabisan said:
I have dismantle my HD to see if there's any way to change only the screen (it's broken)
There's no way, as far as I saw. You have to replace LCD, tourch screen and screen. It's one piece and there's no way easy way to open it without break it.
You can find all of them for about 200E.
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So there's no way I could replace only this?
http://global.ebay.com/Original_Digitizer_Touch_Screen_For_HTC_Touch_HD/310124432320/item

Another sad story // hopefully with a good ending
I kinda have the same problem as Viba and others. Sorry for the looong post. But decided to describe in more details my experience up to now, and hope you can help as well.
All of a sudden, I started having problems with the touch screen of the Touch HD. I started noticing that whenever I touched the Touchflo buttons, the phone vibrated. Soon I came to realize the if I touched in some spot, the phone recognized that I was touching lower, to the point that it could not recognize touches in the taskbar, for instance.
The united has 2 or 3 months max. It had some falls before and I do not really know who (or which one) was the culprit.
Tried this as fix: re-alignment, hardresets, Official ROM upgrade. Then I started reading and understanding that the problem was probably the digitizer ("nice to meet you").
I live in Brazil and the Touch HD is not expected be released here any time soon. So the few HTC service centers do not know how to fix it and do not have parts for it. And also, I bought mine from an auction site by some user who bought it abroad, with no warranty whatsoever. I am left alone in this.
I was very frustrated and eager to get my device running again. So I started looking for a new digitizer and also the tools to open my phone. The digitizer (just the digitizer, not the LCD screen) I ordered from an ebay shop in Hong Kong on Monday and is expected to still arrive sometime in this century (IF Brazilian port authorities do not mess up). The tools arrived yesterday.
I downloaded the service manual and said to myself, let's see if the digitizer problem is maybe due to a loose flat cable. Got to work and carefully disassembled the device as per the service manual. (I have to say that, although I try to be carefull, I always scratch, bend or mess something up when I do jobs like these. So I was afraid of cracking some plastic or worse and actually did some.)
Up to where the service manual show, it went incredibly very well. But that's the problem. The service manual guides you to disassemble the unit up to the point where you are with the bezel, LCD and digitizer in one piece.
But hey! I saw zillions of internet shops selling the bezel (actually, the hole housing, but with no LCD), the digitizer or other parts separately! What is going on?
So I started trying to unmount the bezel, LCD and digitizer. Tried several things. It got really late. I was impactient. So I tried splitting the digitizer from the LCD, by inserting a hard plastic aluminium tip between the digitizer and the housing. A very thin plastic kind of tape came out (at lest part of it). So I tried doing it more. No success. And then I put a very thin screwdriver between then (just enough to get an ulgy bent it the plastic housing).
When I had played enough with that puzzle, I gave up and began mounting everything back. The good part is that I was able to get everything back and the phone is working. Well, except for the digitizer.
First thing I did was to kidnap the wife's Nokia E71 I bought her last month and she is not using yet (she couldn't learn to use yet; well, she hasn't even tried it), because I have to have mobile access to my emails.
And I really started now to consider other alternatives. Will some user like me EVER be able to change just the digitizer? Is it even possible? If it is, I would like to give it at least another shot.
But I am also afraid that it could be another part which is in failure. I just don't want to spend more $$$$ in this. It would be better to buy another phone (and maybe not a complete touchscreen - gosh, I miss my Tytn II). I so regret being a gadget freak and not waiting a release in my country.
Shoud I send my phone abroad for a service center repair? My sister lives in Dubai and she may be able to help.
Should I give up my unit and seel the used parts in ebay?
Hope to hear your suggestions. Thanks anyway.

Viba said:
Well... Had Hard-SPL on my touch hd and duttys 1.7 rom, so the warranty is gone
Didn't know they were so picky about it, they said it would cost 605€ to repair the screen. So now I should probably start looking for a screen digitizer on ebay and some help on how to change it... Already downloaded the service manual, but there was nothing on how to change the digitizer, could anyone here show me some light to this? Thanks.
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before doing this what about removing hspl and reflashing back a stock rom
change shop and you might, and i say MIGHT, be lucky
much better than screwing up the machine

Rafael K said:
I kinda have the same problem as Viba and others. Sorry for the looong post. But decided to describe in more details my experience up to now, and hope you can help as well...
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Nice to know I'm not alone with this problem
Sucks that the digitizer couldn't be removed separately, would help alot if someone knew how to do this, if even possible..
crashDebug said:
before doing this what about removing hspl and reflashing back a stock rom
change shop and you might, and i say MIGHT, be lucky
much better than screwing up the machine
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I have already tried with 3 custom roms and 2 original SPL:s with two original roms.
The Finnish law allows me to get my HD replaced if I could prove that the custom rom didn't brake the digitizer. Already sent some emails to the local repairstation for HTC phones here in Finland, lets see...

I run a repair center (US). I have not gotten curious enough to take mine apart, but if someone has a dead one to experiment with, PM me.

Broken digitizer glass
I have the same problem with the digitizer glass being broken. I have had the back off the phone and stripped it back as far as I dare, but the service manual just doesn't tell you how to replace the digitizer and glass only. Checked out youtube where there are many videos with instructions on how to replace the screens and digitizers on lots of different phones as well as the iphone, just nothing on the Blackstone yet.
Any one else found a solution or decent instructions?

Today I disassembled my HD too, found a loose screen wire but nothing else. Even when I attached it properly the screen didn't work.
Has anyone found out how to change the digitizer?

some info
Hello,
I am also have HTC Touch HD, and I am also thinking about replacement of touch screen and housing because of scratches. Here instruction in Russian
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-hd/
step 24 is not shown on the picture, but there is mentioned that in order to replace screen you should push it forward from back side of the screen; also mentioned that screen is fixed with double sided tape (probably it is fixed to the touch screen)
Also, did you try to use any polish to remove minor scratches on the touch screen? HTC Touch HS has resistive screen and probably may be polished (in contrast to capacitive touch screen that has some coating).
All the best

Also, about this problem see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3911326

You guys should be smarter! If you want to warranty exchange it, flash the normal SPL again and flash a stock rom!

omg broken screen?

hey guys, i had my 1 1/2 weeks old HD2 in my pocket and on pulling it out of there it showed some kind of imprint in the mid of the screen.
seems as if there was pressure on the glass in the middle of the screen which now somehow fused with display
the display still works, but one can see a dark spot in the middle of the screen, pretty as long as a pinky finger.
does anyone know how to fix that? or should i simply ask for replacement?
thanks in advance, photos will follow as soon as i find something to take pictures.

I had the samething. Really strange, when I spoke to HTC they said that I should send it in to repair. However you should go back to the store and get a replacement esp since you've only had it for a week and a half.
However if your with Vodafone you may have quite a wait for a replacement.
Hut go back to the store to get a exchange, they should do that as you can get a replacement phone for the first 28 days.
Hope that helps
By the way just took a look at your picture and it is almost a carbon copy of what happened to mine.

I had this happen to my old orbit, with its resitive screen and no hard plastic over the screen, but it used to disappear after a few hours, is yours permenant?

[Q] whats wrong with my phone? please help..

I have a Desire Z (bell) that i got off the forums to use with AT&T.. everything went great, i love the phone.. about 3 weeks ago i went to check the phone after leaving it on the charger while i slept and the screen was grey with black lines. all the lights work, and i could even answer phone calls by judging where the slider was. pressing on the screen gets haptic feedback. The phone did not fall while i was asleep. I actually havent dropped it once since i got it (around april)
So i called HTC and the phone is within its 1 year warranty but they said since its a canadian phone i will have to call that carrier, so i called bell and they said "call HTC. If you dont live in canada we wont help!"
So when i call HTC back they tell me to call futuretel and they will fix it. I call futuretel and they say no because im in america.
So i call HTC back again and tell them it is ridiculous that the phone is still under 1 year warranty FROM THEM and they wont fix it. they are supposed to be getting in touch with futuretel for an exception or something but i am tried of waiting.
Attached are pictures of the phone in its current state. It is running cm7 and i had not flashed anything on it for atleast a month before it messed up.
Has anyone else had this problem or have any ideas over what has caused it? I've looked online to find images of another screen doing this and haven't been able to.

i forgot to mention that i offered to pay for the repairs from HTC since i was not the original buyer. They still said they won't work on it. It's not that i dont want to pay for the repair, I cant find anyone to do it!!

You need to fix the screen, mine broke two times:
-Dropped once, the screen was OK, then broke in my pants
-Dropped it again on the floor and my screen broke a second times
Seriously, repair your screen by yourself, you will save about 100$ just because you don't pay for the technician.
Just follow this tutorial, it's pretty easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dR8CHEGjY
Then you may want to buy the screen on ebay with the tools for the phone:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Replacement...&_dmpt=PDA_Accessories&_trksid=p3286.c0.m1538
Good luck!

thanks. i wanted to get a good idea of what needed replaced to see if i could fix it myself. i didn't know if it was the LCD, or the cable ribbon thing or something else. thank you

bfinch said:
thanks. i wanted to get a good idea of what needed replaced to see if i could fix it myself. i didn't know if it was the LCD, or the cable ribbon thing or something else. thank you
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I cannot garantee it's the LCD, but both times I got those kind of white screen + black lines it was the LCD for me.