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Anyone else looking forward to their next phone?

If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2

im buying a blackberry or htc hero this week. im done with winmo.

Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.

zenulator said:
Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.
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yeah but i wonder what the price tag will be? better start saving now zen.

I can't imagine the phone NOT being subsidized in part by the carrier, you know... like everything else they've ever put out - it'll just be close to half a million when it first comes out like it always is.
But yes, I like the touch a lot but I really miss the hardware keyboard on my MotoQ, I am now not only against all screen keyboards, but will never buy another phone that doesn't have a hardware keyboard now.

boe said:
If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2
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HA did you say YOUR choices are limited? I'm with Bell Mobility. MY CHOICES ARE MUCH MORE LIMITED

well i can say goodbye to winmo in a few days. i just got a great deal on 2 new blackberry curves from sprint for only $50, so i got one phone for free!

come on windows mobile is great. i only have to hard reset every week or so.

I've had my WinMo HTC Touch with Sprint for over two years and I had to hard reset all of like twice....and one of those times was just to install WinMo 6.1. So yeah, maybe you guys are just doing something wrong, lol.
As far as my next phone, I am getting that HTC Touch Pro 2!! It look so amazing and I am dying to get my hands on it. HOWEVER, I just might change my mind because these new 1GHz phones seem so freakin' beastly. I gotta see when they'll be out and if it'll be worth the wait. Also I gotta see if they have all the features I want.

The Verizon Eris or Droid doesnt look so bad......

Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.

It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!

Macmee said:
Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.
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Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...

Just pre-ordered 2 Droids from Best Buy last night... all I can say is we are uber-excited about this device!!!

aross6 said:
It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!
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Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.

We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right? How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?

justpyro said:
We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right?
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I'm not sure...
justpyro said:
How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?
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$50.00 to pre-order/hold the Handset, $149.99 due at the time of pickup (price with new 2 year contract is $299, but Best Buy gives you the $100 rebate instantly unlike Verizon retail locations)

fireshaper said:
Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.
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Make sure you order before 11.15.09, because after that date Verizon is increasing their ETFs from $175.00 to $350.00... source: CNET
... and I can't believe your wife doesn't want a Droid.... my wife is STOKED to get her hands on it after having a Vogue-Droid for these past many months...

Bell getting Samsung Galaxy?
plemen said:
Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...
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I went into the local Bell retail store, looking at phones. Talked to the guy about the HTC Touch Diamond. He looks at me weird, asks "You like Windows Mobile??". I grin back, and say, "No, I like Android, but that's the closest I can get with you guys." I pull out my vogue and show him plemen's themed Donut build. At this point he tells me to hold on to my $200 upgrade credit a bit longer... as they will have the Samsung Galaxy within a month! Apparently the Samsung rep had been in the day before to talk 'em up about the Galaxy and Android, how awesome it's gonna be... yadda yadda. Needless to say, I'm holding onto that upgrade credit of mine for a *bit* longer

The galaxy is very un-exciting.
Better to get an unlocked Hero from Telus and put it on Bell.

Anyone getting the Droid X?

Im thinking of getting the drod x on july 19th. My contract with tmobile expires on july fourth so ill probably sell the nexus for it. What do you guys think? Is it a major upgrade? It has 4.3 inch screen and seems better than the evo.

sasha101 said:
Im thinking of getting the drod x on july 19th. My contract with tmobile expires on july fourth so ill probably sell the nexus for it. What do you guys think? Is it a major upgrade? It has 4.3 inch screen and seems better than the evo.
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I say go for it. Don't see why not.. your contract expires.. seems pretty perfect.

Phone looks great but think that CDMA is outdated. No data and voice at the same time. Useless phone if you travel to Europe....

no voice+data= no sale
having people who call getting dumped to voicemail because I'm using data is not cool
besides I'm personally not ready to go back to a carrier device

Old MuckenMire said:
no voice+data= no sale
having people who call getting dumped to voicemail because I'm using data is not cool
besides I'm personally not ready to go back to a carrier device
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If your browsing the web and someone calls, they get forwarded to voicemail?!

sasha101 said:
If your browsing the web and someone calls, they get forwarded to voicemail?!
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Ofcourse not. He just meant that you can't check movie times or what not while you're on a call. I guess in theory it's nice to do both but to be fair I never have found myself in a situation where I am so bored with someones phone conversation that I just start surfing the web mid-call. Ok....maybe once.
The real CDMA deal breaker for me is traveling abroad.

I also hate Moto since they locked the bootloader of the Milestone.
I would wait and see how the rooting/custom rom effort comes along.
The droid has great community, just make sure Moto doesn't follow up on their bad habbits!

lazaro17 said:
Ofcourse not. He just meant that you can't check movie times or what not while you're on a call. I guess in theory it's nice to do both but to be fair I never have found myself in a situation where I am so bored with someones phone conversation that I just start surfing the web mid-call. Ok....maybe once.
The real CDMA deal breaker for me is traveling abroad.
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What about tethering?I believe this might be what he was referring to...

A HSDPA version of the Droid X would be nice, like the Milestone, but ONLY if they leave the boot loader unlockable this time. CDMA is effectively dead in Canada now with only legacy contracts still using the old networks.
It seems like Motorola uses good components in their phones and their build quality is very good, but I don't care for their tacked on UI and would only get the phone if I knew it was possible to load something like CyanogenMod on it. The Nexus One has spoiled me.

I'm constantly intrigued by the design of the Droid and now the Droid X and Droid 2, but I just can't stomach a contract and the outrageous Verizon plans. I'll stick with my Nexus and cheap T-mo data for now.

If your browsing the web and someone calls, they get forwarded to voicemail?!
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Ofcourse not. He just meant that you can't check movie times or what not while you're on a call. I guess in theory it's nice to do both but to be fair I never have found myself in a situation where I am so bored with someones phone conversation that I just start surfing the web mid-call. Ok....maybe once.
The real CDMA deal breaker for me is traveling abroad.
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I do it. All the time. At least once a day.
And also I'm with ya on the whole cdma bull****. Its such an outdated technology. And I hate Verizon. And I hate carrier devices. I hate carrier branding.
That's why I love the nexus one and att
That's why ill buy the nexus two. And I know I mentioned that I'm gonna buy iPhone 4 but I've been thinking. Apple can go screw its self. nexus pwns it.

More interesting question is anybody thinking about getting the Galaxy S?

Technically, GSM 3G is a flavor of CDMA...just allows for simultaneous voice and data because of the way it's configured. However, GSM networks can still be configured to only allow voice or data at once, they just happen to have been set up originally to allow them both. The ironic part of it is just that nobody knew when they set up the network that it would be this way and it would end up being such a huge deal - lucky break for AT&T.

If root is easy it will surely boost sales (I hope manufacturers understand this).
Very good specs, but lets wait for an actual device in-depth review

the droid X can plan .AVI FILES!!!!!! also comes with a multitouch keyboard
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/

Meh, I'll pass.
I think it's rather fugly.

Nexus
It's time for Nexus 2!

Sorry, you can keep the tablet phones...

Little too big for my daily use. And we need more detailed specs & benchmarks for validation.

i think these devices are way too big. Ive played with the Evo and this is bigger?! I thought the Evo was big and clunky. Maybe something just a lil bit bigger than my N1 would be my limit. I think Android has this thing where they think bigger is better. I dont wanna hold that thing in my pocket? These things are ganna be tablets size soon

G2 trackball (??) unstability

Hi, I have a problem with the G2.
I have in my possession 2 of them, and they appear to be freaking out, the trackball is malfunctioning on both phone, at least that's my 1st impression.
I'd like to know if one of you faces the same issue and/or if there ways to get it fixed.
so to give you an example, when I use the phone it will push randomly all directions (up, down, right, left) and make it a pain in the ass to use the phone.
or when writing commands in the terminal emulator, the phone will randomly write: ^[[A^[[C^[[ ... etc etc and on and on.
do you guys think this is a hardware issue? cause it started 2 days ago, and I bought these 2 phones at the same time basically when the phone was released. (so I guess they are part of the 1st shipments and maybe faulty???)
let me know.

Since they're optical, there was probably some sort of lighting that was interfering with it. Happens to me from time to time...
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Happened randomly to me too when I got this flawled phone and had to exchanged it(luckily was within first two weeks of tmobile phone trial). Now I'm dealing with flimsy structure, this craptastic Z slide feels like two magnets with same polarities facing each other it just won't shut anymore! I'm gonna send it in to htc and ebay this p.o.s.
No offense to htc and htc fan boys but I have learned my lesson, its sad tho because this is my first ever smart phone. I was previously on a samsung highlight with no internet or even email because I was a broke a$$ collage student freezing my fingers off with roommates in the winter saving money on utilities. Not even a month after I renew my contract the nexus s comes out which I wouldn't mind right now if only tmobile mandated their manufacters announce their phones so I can plan my purchase like i had been when I almost got a nexus one.
Carriers don't seam to care whose phone you have--but if it sucks you're options most certainly include leaving the carrier altogether to try something new...at least the iphone band wagon includes most if not all your friends or friends to-be whome you might like to game with. Businesses these days...
Now I'm ready to swing back the other way in the spectrum and go for iphone when it goes out on verizon. Who cares tho right? We're only the exclusive bunch that are stuck with g2 in a g2 only section of xda where no one will hear our plight? Wrong--we're a young generation with money in our hands. I'm 24 years old, i plan to get married now that i'm working and done with school, you better believe my future wife and children will own iphones or whatever else isn't a consumer's nightmare
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I don't care whose phone you have--if it sucks you're options include leaving the carrier altogether to try something new...at least the iphone band wagon includes most if not all your friends or friends to-be whome you might like to game with.
Now I'm ready to swing back the other way in the spectrum and go for iphone when it goes out on verizon. Who cares tho right? We're only the exclusive bunch that are stuck with g2 right? Wrong--I'm 24 years old and getting married next year so you better believe my wife and children will own iphones or whatever else isn't a consumer's nightmare
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You're a fool if you think the iPhone has no flaws ir defective units. My wife's 3GS gets no GPS reception (turns out this is a fairly common issue), a friend had the radio crap out (was dropping all calls and data connections) and had to exchange, and another friend is having major battery issues (and of course the battery is not meant to be accessed on the iPhone). That's about a 30% failure rate in iPhone owners amongst my close friends.
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gentlemen please behave! LOL
yes I'm very disappointed by this, and I'm thinking about offloading the device when I get this fixed. the motorola milestone milestone never let me down, dunno why I didnt get the second version over this one (I think it might because of the release date)
anyway, if more of you guys have any explanation to this situation please feel free to comment ^_^

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You're a fool if you think the iPhone has no flaws. My wife's 3GS gets no GPS reception (turns out this is a fairly common issue), a friend had the radio crap out (was dropping all calls and data connections) and had to exchange, and another friend is having major battery issues (and of course the battery is not meant to be accessed on the iPhone). That's about a 30% failure rate in iPhone owners amongst my close friends.
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And you're a fool for including coverage of at&t along with battery problems with mine and dude who started thread's hardware issues.
I'm sorry you had a hard time with your iphone, I myself think at&t fail hard so I really don't know where you thought I was saying iphone is the best, but get with the program you're comparing iphone 3gs with my supposed iphone4 contender the g2... maybe if you said something about the iphone4 I would care.
As I stated before at least iphone has a huge customer base to be among other things, scared of. on the other hand we get pissed on by android os phone manufacturers in the horse races playing catchup with apple to try and get consumers using droid phones. So I get duped into buying this g2 and nobody gives a damn. Btw this phone went down in price very quickly which goes to say it sucks.
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And you're a fool for including coverage of at&t along with battery problems with mine and dude who started thread's hardware issues.
I'm sorry you had a hard time with your iphone
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You misread, I don't own, and will never own an iPhone.
My friends iPhone radio issue has nothing to do with ATT coverage, which you are again completely misreading (and ATT is actually excellent in my market). Her iPhone worked fine for almost a year, then either the radio software or hardware failed. The issue was completely repeatable at the ATT store. The ATT rep then put her SIM in a different iPhone, and it worked fine. So it was obviously a issue with the phone, not the network.
If you think the iPhone 4 is so much more awesome than the 3GS, you must have slept though Apple's antenna design fail. You should also research the instances of cracks in the supposedly unbreakable (or at least very difficult to break) Gorilla Glass. And the iPhone 4 also has proximity sensor issues.
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Who forced anyone to buy X product? Don't forget that you have a choice. These things are like food. A delicacy to one, is the most unappetizing thing to another. Aren't you glad you can choose which one to buy?
....a little research into what you are buying goes a LONG way

^^Nice first post^^
OP, have you called TMo customer service and asked about the problems your having? I've had nothing but excellent service from them with one small exception that was resolved very quickly. If your still in the buyers remorse (14 day) period they will send out new in the box units or allow you to exchange the phones for something different. If not, they still have a one year warranty, so you can get them replaced....
Hope you get things settled soon....

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^^Nice first post^^
OP, have you called TMo customer service and asked about the problems your having? I've had nothing but excellent service from them with one small exception that was resolved very quickly. If your still in the buyers remorse (14 day) period they will send out new in the box units or allow you to exchange the phones for something different. If not, they still have a one year warranty, so you can get them replaced....
Hope you get things settled soon....
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yeah I think when I get back home next week I will try that, the thing is I don't know how long it might take for them to repair the phones
if they do repair them I will try the milestone II instead.

Raioneru said:
yeah I think when I get back home next week I will try that, the thing is I don't know how long it might take for them to repair the phones
if they do repair them I will try the milestone II instead.
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If your out of the remorse period, they will send out replacement units, bare bones so to speak (no battery, SD card, back cover or charger)... In my case they sent them out priority and I had the replacement in three days. You don't return the defective units until the replacement arrives, so no down time.

Raioneru said:
yeah I think when I get back home next week I will try that, the thing is I don't know how long it might take for them to repair the phones
if they do repair them I will try the milestone II instead.
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T-Mobile will send you replacements before you send the defective units back. Basically they send you replacements, then you send the old ones back in the same box(es) they delivered them in.
Hope you get your issue resolved....

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If your out of the remorse period, they will send out replacement units, bare bones so to speak (no battery, SD card, back cover or charger)... In my case they sent them out priority and I had the replacement in three days. You don't return the defective units until the replacement arrives, so no down time.
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oh! so should I go to a local store and do that, or should I do it online?

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oh! so should I go to a local store and do that, or should I do it online?
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Dial 611 from your phone and ask for technical support. They'll walk you through it from there.

More importantly, how did you get a g2 with a track ball?
Sent from my CyanogenMod powered G2.

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And you're a fool for including coverage of at&t along with battery problems with mine and dude who started thread's hardware issues.
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Since the battery is built into the phone and cannot be removed, I'd say that counts as a "hardware issue".
Which isn't really the point here.
The point is that faulty devices will always exist, and the more complex the device, the higher the number of faults.
Yes, the iPhone wouldn't have had the issues that you had.
Because the iPhone doesn't have a slide-out keyboard.
Or an optical trackpad.
See?
Follow that line of thinking through, and you're back in featurephone land.
Fact is, smartphones are complex. Manufacturing faults are inevitable. You just got unlucky. Twice. How unlucky? Well, so unlucky that I've never heard of a single other case of this "inverse-polarity-like sliding mechanism".
Doesn't make it a bad phone tho.

My experience with VZW Customer Service Regarding Froyo

So last wednesday I decided to make my voice heard and I wrote VZW an angry email. I am not going to type out the whole thing but basically it said that i am tired of their horrible customer service and horrible customer support. I also went on to state that everytimeI ask a rep either on the phone or in the store as to when we are going to get Froyo the answer with out fail is always very soon or in a couple of weeks.
I recieved a call on Friday afternoon. I missed the call but the rep left a Voice mail. It states and I quote " Hey Joshua, My name is Tammy and I am with Verizon Wireless's internet response team. I recieved your email about your concern for the Samsung Fascinate. So some good news is that we did get approval for the 2.2 froyo to be updated. So it is going to be updated very soon, escentially probably within the next 2 weeks, but I mean it is just waiting for google to push it through. So whenever google is ready to send it over we will be sending it out to our customers. So if you have any questions feel free to contact us at 1-800-922-0204. Have a good Day Bye"
I did call back immediately and spoke to a normal customer service Rep who had no idea what was going on with the update. He kept basically putting the blame on Google and Samsung. He asked me if I had called them to see why we have not got the update yet. I told him know it is Verizon's responsibilty, as that is who I pay my money to every month. By the end of the call there was nothing really resolved with that rep, with the exception of him asking if I would consider a replcaememnt to a different phone that has Froyo and he suggested the Droid X ( which he said was a step down ) or the Thunderbolt . Which i of course said i would be interested in the thunderbolt. I am also supposed to get a call back today from the Rep who answered my email.
So I guess as usual take it with a grain of salt. I will keep you guys updated with what happens with this.

I would have asked how it's Google's fault when they didn't manufacture the phone, or send it out for a manufacturing contract to be made for them (ie Nexus device). After that, I would ask how it is Samsung's fault when they just released the source code for the Froyo update last week, showing that Samsung has finished their part of the upgrade.

It's funny because I called last week following up on an email I sent 2 weeks ago and I'm still getting the run around. They offerred me a droid x or droid 2 but i don't want to settle at this point if there are new phones available. I'm now waiting for a supervisor to call me back.

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I would have asked how it's Google's fault when they didn't manufacture the phone, or send it out for a manufacturing contract to be made for them (ie Nexus device). After that, I would ask how it is Samsung's fault when they just released the source code for the Froyo update last week, showing that Samsung has finished their part of the upgrade.
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I did ask why it is Google and Samsung's Fault. The rep responded with the make the os and build the harware we just sell the phone. I said it is Verizons responsibility to make sure all of their phones are up to date as possible. I also said that if it is Google or Sammy's fault, then why is it that almost every other galaxy released has got the update? The rep replied with saying that I was wrong and that only a few galaxys have gotten the update.

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It's funny because I called last week following up on an email I sent 2 weeks ago and I'm still getting the run around. They offerred me a droid x or droid 2 but i don't want to settle at this point if there are new phones available. I'm now waiting for a supervisor to call me back.
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I absolutely love my phone, espescially the screen. I would defineatly consider the thunderbolt though.

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I absolutely love my phone, espescially the screen. I would defineatly consider the thunderbolt though.
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To be honest, asthetically I like the fascinate but not having froyo after waiting all this time has turned me off. I've used some rom's available on the forums but I feel like I shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get an update that should have been out months ago.

thats how i ended up with my fascinate. my dad got tired of not having froyo, so he gave the option for me to inherit his fascinate or keep my OG droid.

As a VZW Tech rep. The care reps know less than me and we have absolutely no resources/explanation on why some devices get updates and some don't.

The problem is when you have 3 huge companies and their crack legal departments putting conditions on everything. Companies can't agree to play golf together without a 300 page legal agreement.
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So no return call from VZW at all yesterday. If I dont recieve a call from them by 7pm. I am calling and it will be an escalated call, I guarantee it.

If you're gonna get a "Froyo Replacement", maybe you can get a Droid Charge out of the deal Yay SuperAMOLED+

cam815 said:
If you're gonna get a "Froyo Replacement", maybe you can get a Droid Charge out of the deal Yay SuperAMOLED+
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Oh good call on that, didnt even think about that phone as a possibility

Thats strange because I wanted to get a Thunderbolt for a replacement and they said you can only get a replacement thunderbolt if you have a defective thunderbolt. The Incredible 2 comes out April 28th as well.

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If you're gonna get a "Froyo Replacement", maybe you can get a Droid Charge out of the deal Yay SuperAMOLED+
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and probably no roms or kernels either...given that no one is gonna buy it

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So no return call from VZW at all yesterday. If I dont recieve a call from them by 7pm. I am calling and it will be an escalated call, I guarantee it.
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Good Luck.
They wouldn't budge with me from the offer of signing another 2 year contract with a Droid X

aviationrey said:
Good Luck.
They wouldn't budge with me from the offer of signing another 2 year contract with a Droid X
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They already offered to just swap me to the DX. My roommate has that phone and I really dont like it. Well, at least not compared to the Fascinate

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They already offered to just swap me to the DX. My roommate has that phone and I really dont like it. Well, at least not compared to the Fascinate
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It's hard to get away from a damn good looking slim phone that has an amazing screen isn't it?

Alright so Update
I Spoke to VZW last night, and after alot of "venting" on my end they were willing to get me a new phone......... The Thunderbolt!
The only catch is that I had to renew my contract for 2 years, which is okay because I was 4 months into this one. Once I get I will either give the phone to a family member for super cheap or just sell it and recoop the cost.
The rep who I spoke with was not willing/able to do anything for me. I just asked for a supervisor, and miraculously the rep came back after a short hold time and said the supervisor is in a good mood so they will let you upgrade as long as you reup your 2 year. So i guess long story short just start escalating the call if you get any push back

I just don't understand giving up on such a great device because of a lack of an update. I understand the principle of a company supporting it's hardware, be it Samsung or Verizon, but I still think it is silly to go to all this trouble just on principle. What does the Thunderbolt have that the Fascinate doesn't (besides the obvious, 2.2 and 4G)? To each his own, I guess.

Kevin Gossett said:
I just don't understand giving up on such a great device because of a lack of an update. I understand the principle of a company supporting it's hardware, be it Samsung or Verizon, but I still think it is silly to go to all this trouble just on principle. What does the Thunderbolt have that the Fascinate doesn't (besides the obvious, 2.2 and 4G)? To each his own, I guess.
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Well look at it this way I got a new phone for a great price as well as I am still able to keep my Fascinate or sell it. When/if Froyo ever comes out and I still have the Phone I can always switch back to it.
I want to make it clear I love my Fascinate, if for nothing else the screen is amazing. I have never really had any issues with it, except for the usual gps taking a while to connect, and it freezing which attribute to sftware not hardware.

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I was just at the verizon store here, and was told that I could get a refurb of a droid x, incredible or a charge, since I have been having the missed calls issue. Just wanted some thoughts on what you think. I like the charge's screen, but am a little concerned with another sammy (no update, etc), and not a fan of the cosmetics. Just looking for some debate on what phone to change to, if any.

It's really all up to you but if you're looking for the best hardware specs charge wins. Screen size charge wins too.
It's not really all that though, but clearly superior to the other two.
Charge doesnt have CM7 available if you're a cm7 guy

I would be happy to exchange my Fascinate for a Charge. I love my Fascinate, but the missed call thing is really hard to deal with. I am on my 2nd replacement phone right now, and it "seems" like its a "little" better, but I might just be kidding myself. I still missed a call on Sunday night when I had the phone right next to me on the table.

bluevolume said:
I would be happy to exchange my Fascinate for a Charge. I love my Fascinate, but the missed call thing is really hard to deal with. I am on my 2nd replacement phone right now, and it "seems" like its a "little" better, but I might just be kidding myself. I still missed a call on Sunday night when I had the phone right next to me on the table.
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Take it into a verizon store, and tell them you want a new phone. They didn't even blink. You get those three phone options, Charge, Incredible2 or Droid x. Tell them you can't be missing calls because of work. They have a bulletin telling them to exchange.

10 charact

So is it the incredible and droid x or the incredible 2 and droid x 2? Also do we have to go into a store our can we just call?
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ExNight said:
So is it the incredible and droid x or the incredible 2 and droid x 2? Also do we have to go into a store our can we just call?
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different people say they get offered different phones... some get a choice for new ones, some old and it is also a mixed bag as to whether its over the phone or in person... I personally won't give up my fascinate for any current phone, I could care less about how many processors it has or if its 3G or 4G. the things that matter to me are the beautiful SAMOLED screen and how easy it is to modify
edit: the only other phone right now I may consider would be the Charge
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Charge without hesitation.
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anoninja118 said:
different people say they get offered different phones... some get a choice for new ones, some old and it is also a mixed bag as to whether its over the phone or in person... I personally won't give up my fascinate for any current phone, I could care less about how many processors it has or if its 3G or 4G. the things that matter to me are the beautiful SAMOLED screen and how easy it is to modify
edit: the only other phone right now I may consider would be the Charge
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I got absolutely nothing from the stores around here. Called 3 of them, they all knew nothing about it. One even offered up that I check Craigslist if I don't like my phone. lol

bluevolume said:
I got absolutely nothing from the stores around here. Called 3 of them, they all knew nothing about it. One even offered up that I check Craigslist if I don't like my phone. lol
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oh wow lol
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Stop calling the store... Call 611 and hit zero. Just bs with them so you go to tier 2 tech support. Tier 2 will check for known issues and find that missed calls are a known software issue. They will then give you a choice to wait for the software patch later this month that will fix the issue or exchange for a different device. You will have a choice between the charge, incredible 2, or droid x 2.
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They have posted this on Verizon Site sounds like if you are having missed calls they will replace the phone
Re: missed calls, dropped calls, missed texts, phone freezing and severe battery drain!Options
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07-13-2011 10:23 AM
I am updating as many forums I can with the following information:
We have updated our policy on handling missed calls very recently for the Fascinate.
We normally don't request people to call in,but if you are reading this, that may be your best option. Call 800-922-0204 option 3 for tech support. Choose the option foradvanced devices and PDAs. This will get you to tech support.
We do have different options available for customers experiencing this issue while we work on the permanent fix to this problem.
You also have the option to PM me with your cell number, and I'd be happy to review this in detail via phone call or PM.
Thanks for you patience. I know this has been a rocky road for some of you.
MikeS1_VZW
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ExNight said:
Stop calling the store... Call 611 and hit zero. Just bs with them so you go to tier 2 tech support. Tier 2 will check for known issues and find that missed calls are a known software issue. They will then give you a choice to wait for the software patch later this month that will fix the issue or exchange for a different device. You will have a choice between the charge, incredible 2, or droid x 2.
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I really wanna try this to get a Charge but I kinda don't want to give up my Fascinate... choices hmmm
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Does this exchange cost an upgrade, or do we have to pay anything out of pocket for this?

I bought my phone off craigslist and I'm experiencing the missed calls issue. Will they help me out as well or is this only for people who bought the phone directly from Verizon?

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I bought my phone off craigslist and I'm experiencing the missed calls issue. Will they help me out as well or is this only for people who bought the phone directly from Verizon?
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yes it will i bought both my fascinate and my girlfriend's fascinate off Craigslist
What I did after about three attempts at getting a different phone other than the fascinate was call Customer Service and went straight to retention to say I wanted to cancel my service. I was asked why and I explained all the problems with my phone (missed calls, phone freezing, etc). The rep asked what she could do to keep me with them and I told her that I needed to be able to actually receive the service I pay for each month. She was gonna try to factory reset and I told her not to waste her time because I've already tried that. Tell them you've basically tried any kind of troubleshooting with the phone and that it didn't work. Then tell them you're not interested in another fascinate to replace the one you currently have because it's the phone that is the problem. They should then offer you the choice of a charge, droid x2, or droid incredible 2.

I wonder if its possible to do this at best buy since thats where I bought my fascinate.

yeah same here i bought mine on black friday at BB

If you get a charge they will remove your data plan and put it back on for 4G. Meaning you will lose unlimited data.

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If you get a charge they will remove your data plan and put it back on for 4G. Meaning you will lose unlimited data.
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From my understanding on verizon twitter some time ago, people who has unlimited plan from before the price change can still use it for 4g.