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Hero Lag

does anybody have a major problem with hero lagging. It is really annoying. I was wondering if rooting the hero can fix this problem. If not do you guys think the 2.1 update will fix it.

What ROM are you running? What apps do you normally have running in the background? Are you using a Task Killer that automatically kills apps on a set time frame? Have you tried doing a factory reset/wipe to see if it makes a difference? And finally, where do you see the lag the most? Is it in a particular application, or are you judging the "lagginess" based on moving back and forth from your home screens in SenseUI?
Answering ALL of these questions will help us understand what you're seeing a little better. Your question is a little vague, and your answers will probably help you get some more support from folks on here.
Thanks!

My phone was laggy too. I rooted it and put the fresh rom on it and I saw a big improvement in overall performance. Still not as fast as my old iphone 3gs, but I would never go back. I also don't use task manager anymore. It always runs in the background and drains your battery faster.

I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..

tyrnight said:
I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
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Yeah handcent killed me, made the phone not just a dog, but a wounded dog born with 2 legs. 10x worse than the stock hero app, which is bad.

I'm running handcent, but I haven't noticed any specific slowdowns from it. It can take a while to load the main handcent screen when you have lots and lots of texts in there, but I usually clear them out when I get over 100 or so anyway.

Check to see that you have the most recent version of Handcent. I think I read that there was a performance bug related to their special "with Christmas animations" holiday release (that has since been fixed).
Also, remember to clear the boot-cache directory and reboot after upgrading apps ('rm -r /data/boot-cache/*'; reboot). The Hero has problems with caching apps after upgrades (so you aren't actually running the upgrade version). I have no idea if this was fixed in the newer ROMS. I'm running Fresh and still do it, as it only takes a sec (if you have the android-sdk and root set up).

Turning off HandCent popup notifications resulted in a substantial performance increase for me. Which is good, as I really like the features HC adds (such as voice-to-text).

I had the latest version and it was always cleared out sms wise. and I never used popup notifications.. they were annoying.. and I just got a fresh replacement of the Hero (warrantee) and its still on stock rom and Handcent still killed it.. in one day..

i have not rooted, pure stock phone. only app i think runs in background is email and loopt
I notice the lag from everything to sense UI to the clock taking 2-3 secs to update to my contacts scrolling, to text message lag, to calling even lags. like anything and everything can lag.

It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.

on your location settings turn off "network location" then reboot..your lag will be gone...and make sure you have a task manager installed too and end your apps so they take over your processor

Task managers are a waste of time.

Sawawa said:
Task managers are a waste of time.
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I agree with this statement.

Sawawa said:
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
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This is very true. I was running the 2.1 build from here the last few days (thought I had to revert due to missing some texts and voicemail) and it's much speedier. It uses the HTC keyboard, but it's much faster in its response, almost instantaneous. The location bug really does suck up a lot of CPU time.
Also, maybe its just me, but I think it's important to remember the kind of device we're using, the hardware involved, and what you're asking it to do. It's not like you're walking around with a quad core CPU and 4GB of RAM in your pocket, but it seems a lot of people think it should respond as if that's what it has. It's a phone, yes, and it should be able to do phone stuff quickly if possible, but look at all it can and is doing. If you need absolute speed, get a dumb phone that can't browse the web, play games, or do just about anything. It'll run just fine.

handcent never made my phone lag. The only thing that made my phone lag was HTC's battery widget. Damn thing slowed my phone down so I uninstalled it and phone is running back fast again. I still use task manager because I do notice once to many apps are open it lags. Don't care what anyone says it happens on my phone. I do have a lot of applications on ignore though.

Try disabling Location services.

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I agree with this statement.
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I used to wholeheartedly disagree with this statement, until I read a kickass article explaining how Android actively manages memory.
Now, I also agree with this statement 100%. I don't even use my paid task manager app anymore. :/

auto killer preset or custom settings

Those of you running auto killer in your roms, did you use the aggressive settings or custom?
I'm just curious to see if anyone increased the auto kill.

I use either the aggressive or custom depending on the Rom honestly. DC ROMS= Aggressive. FRESH ROMS= strict. and all others = custom
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I have the damagecontrol rom and I dont know if it came with auto killer or what...I restored my titanium backup and all i know is i dont have it now...is there an apk floating around for it?

Try the market

I thought it was a custom xda application. I didn't see it in
the market.
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I've been using Aggressive on Fresh 2.0d and it's been running great.
I tried Moderate for a while at first, but Homerun Battle 3D wouldn't even startup consistently. Once I changed it to Aggressive it has been working great.
Another quick note. I know Autokiller is supposed to reapply the settings on boot, but I'm not sure mine is. I haven't rebooted for a day or so, but the last couple times I rebooted I couldn't get Homerun Battle to run. Then I went into Autokiller and applied Aggressive again and it would start. Anybody else having similar experiences?

I used either the aggressive or strick on Fresh 2.0d. So far everything is running the smooth and fast. This the way HTC hero should have come out of the box.

What does each preset do? Is this for speed or battery life or both?

flammenwurfer said:
I've been using Aggressive on Fresh 2.0d and it's been running great.
I tried Moderate for a while at first, but Homerun Battle 3D wouldn't even startup consistently. Once I changed it to Aggressive it has been working great.
Another quick note. I know Autokiller is supposed to reapply the settings on boot, but I'm not sure mine is. I haven't rebooted for a day or so, but the last couple times I rebooted I couldn't get Homerun Battle to run. Then I went into Autokiller and applied Aggressive again and it would start. Anybody else having similar experiences?
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Damn. I wish Homerun Battle 3D would run great for me. Problem is I get crummy service at work and with it going in and out of 1x and EVDO, causes the game to lag.
I have noticed sometimes on first opening HRB, it force closes but it always opens the second time.

james33440 said:
Those of you running auto killer in your roms, did you use the aggressive settings or custom?
I'm just curious to see if anyone increased the auto kill.
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i'm running aosp 1.6 from gbhil and i used custom autokiller settings.
the way i see it they made these phones with all this ram may as well use it, what good is it to have all this free ram?
1536,3072,4096 (all default) then hidden app is 7680. content provider is 8960 and empty app is 10240. i normally run around 40-45 free ram thats about where i like it. the phone still runs fine all the way down to 20mb free but any less than that it starts going downhill.
so, im MB my settings are 30 then 35 then 40. runs great!

yeah, I get some lag now and then if I don't have great service. Playing offline seems to work fine though. I think it's just the online play that it effects. A co-worker has a Droid and his lags when playing online as well if he's in a spot without good service.

flammenwurfer said:
yeah, I get some lag now and then if I don't have great service. Playing offline seems to work fine though. I think it's just the online play that it effects. A co-worker has a Droid and his lags when playing online as well if he's in a spot without good service.
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Well, mine actually lags on offline play too. As long as the phone isnt switching back and forth, it runs smooth.

How can you remove this autokiller crap, I have tried freshkitchen, uninstaller, and from settings-applications menu, all to no avail

vedwed said:
How can you remove this autokiller crap, I have tried freshkitchen, uninstaller, and from settings-applications menu, all to no avail
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Using command prompt (adb)
adb shell
# rm Autokiller.apk

troyboytn said:
Using command prompt (adb)
adb shell
# rm Autokiller.apk
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Ohh thanks much appreciated.
I did not try that way, I figured if it couldn't be done in freshkitchen then it was just built into the rom. Thanks much again

Just stop using task killers entirely. This isn't Windows Mobile guys. You're getting all OCD in here about the placebo effect.

Sawawa said:
Just stop using task killers entirely. This isn't Windows Mobile guys. You're getting all OCD in here about the placebo effect.
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Autokiller does have a built in task killer but its real use is to tweak memory settings at boot and then shuts itself down (so Android can take care of the rest). So, in reality it is not really a task killer per say.

Fair enough, but it's still entirely pointless. I trust the device manufacturer and Android far more than I ever would the random numbers that I might otherwise delude myself into believing were somehow better.
Just let Android do its thing all of the time. It doesn't need any additional help (particularly with the process management in 2.1). Stop including this garbage in ROMs.

Sawawa said:
Fair enough, but it's still entirely pointless. I trust the device manufacturer and Android far more than I ever would the random numbers that I might otherwise delude myself into believing were somehow better.
Just let Android do its thing all of the time. It doesn't need any additional help (particularly with the process management in 2.1). Stop including this garbage in ROMs.
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It actually very useful for making roms run smoother. By default the memory numbers are very low, which lets a TON of apps run at the same time. The higher the memory numbers the more it ends apps that you werent even using. It gives what you are currently running or recently ran more priority. Even if you dont use AutoKiller, which is just an app to adjust the memory setting, every rom comes with an edited memory setting other then htc's default. Its most commonly known as gumbo's memory settings.
Also in AutoKiller you can adjust the settings to default, or just really low like htc would have them set.
Its really not a bad thing to include in roms because most people want there rom to be smooth and as close to lag free as they can get. AutoKiller helps achieve that by ending stuff you dont currently have up making the phone run faster. Thats if you have a decently set setting. I run mine on optimum, and it doenst close unnecessary things like if im on the web it stays running.
I can understand an app like Task Killer which just terminates the apps. AutoKiller is just setting the memory setting of your phone, which end apps the same way as if the phone were running normally. Just if the numbers are higher the more apps it will end quicker freeing up more space.
Also you really trust htc and sprint?? haha good luck with that

Jus10o said:
It actually very useful for making roms run smoother. By default the memory numbers are very low, which lets a TON of apps run at the same time. The higher the memory numbers the more it ends apps that you werent even using. It gives what you are currently running or recently ran more priority. Even if you dont use AutoKiller, which is just an app to adjust the memory setting, every rom comes with an edited memory setting other then htc's default. Its most commonly known as gumbo's memory settings.
Also in AutoKiller you can adjust the settings to default, or just really low like htc would have them set.
Its really not a bad thing to include in roms because most people want there rom to be smooth and as close to lag free as they can get. AutoKiller helps achieve that by ending stuff you dont currently have up making the phone run faster. Thats if you have a decently set setting. I run mine on optimum, and it doenst close unnecessary things like if im on the web it stays running.
I can understand an app like Task Killer which just terminates the apps. AutoKiller is just setting the memory setting of your phone, which end apps the same way as if the phone were running normally. Just if the numbers are higher the more apps it will end quicker freeing up more space.
Also you really trust htc and sprint?? haha good luck with that
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Either way it should be a choice made by the USER not someone who decides what I need or do not need on my phone. What I choose to have running or not running, there is no need for this garbage for the average joe who just wants something that does not look and feel like Sprint garbage. If its such a great and useful thing put it on the market and let users have a choice.

started to get laggy

When I loaded my phone up like my N1 it started to get really laggy so I download minfree and setcpu and now it's a bit better
the stock linpack for me was 5.9 and when used setcpu and put it on ondemand it went up to 9.1
Samsung hurry up with Android 2.2 PLZ

are you using any profiles or special set of rules that you could share?

SetCPU will constantly crash and restart the phone, not completely it seems but I uninstalled and got a refund.

siberslug said:
When I loaded my phone up like my N1 it started to get really laggy so I download minfree and setcpu and now it's a bit better
the stock linpack for me was 5.9 and when used setcpu and put it on ondemand it went up to 9.1
Samsung hurry up with Android 2.2 PLZ
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My Vibrant is stock with all my apps loaded, and my linpack scores are in the 8's.

same here linpack in 8.1-8.4 and quadrant around 890.
Not yet rooted, two widgets, live wallpaper, 20 additional apps.

heygrl said:
SetCPU will constantly crash and restart the phone, not completely it seems but I uninstalled and got a refund.
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Did you have it set to ondemand? The dev has stated that it works on the Galaxy phones if it's set to conservative. I've had it running on conservative for at least 4 hours now with no reboots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727006

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I had it on ondemand but every time the screen was off for more than 10 min the screen would not come back on.
I uninstalled it and everything was fine, then I reinstalled it and left it on conservative but adjusted the speed to 400 min -1000 Max 20-100% and 100 min -400 Max 0-20% and it works fine.
I also notice that this phone runs way more apps in the background than a N1, the N1 runs 28-35 apps in the background before the system starts shutting things down and this phone runs 50+, the last time I counted after bootup it was at 59.
So I started using an app I bought like 1 year ago, Taskiller Pro and set it up for autokill when screen is turn off and my phone works great.

SykesAT said:
same here linpack in 8.1-8.4 and quadrant around 890.
Not yet rooted, two widgets, live wallpaper, 20 additional apps.
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Linpack 8.4
Quadrant 806

siberslug said:
I had it on ondemand but every time the screen was off for more than 10 min the screen would not come back on.
I uninstalled it and everything was fine, then I reinstalled it and left it on conservative but adjusted the speed to 400 min -1000 Max 20-100% and 100 min -400 Max 0-20% and it works fine.
I also notice that this phone runs way more apps in the background than a N1, the N1 runs 28-35 apps in the background before the system starts shutting things down and this phone runs 50+, the last time I counted after bootup it was at 59.
So I started using an app I bought like 1 year ago, Taskiller Pro and set it up for autokill when screen is turn off and my phone works great.
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great, thanks for the advice!

Yesterday and continuing to today my Vibrant has really started struggling. I have tried a couple of different task manager's and task killers and it is still very slow. I have also uninstalled setCPU and still nothing has changed...

jblade1000 said:
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No problem

zenlakin said:
Yesterday and continuing to today my Vibrant has really started struggling. I have tried a couple of different task manager's and task killers and it is still very slow. I have also uninstalled setCPU and still nothing has changed...
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Find out how many apps are running after a reboot and find out what services each of those apps are accessing.
If you see a game or say a pic editor that is accessing a service it does not need like gps or anything like that delete it and find something similar.
I'm finding that these apps that are accessing parts of the phone they do not need and sending your personal info to the developer and when you get a bunch of these types of apps it puts a huge strain on your phone.
Also download a task manager that kills your selected apps when the screen turns off, just remember to setup an ignore list and include all the systems services and launcher in that list or your phone will freak out.

heygrl said:
SetCPU will constantly crash and restart the phone, not completely it seems but I uninstalled and got a refund.
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You know SetCPU is a free download on the XDA forums right lol
The one on the market is the Donate version so you basically donated to Iforgethisnamewhomadesetcpu and then took back your donation heh.

It wouldn't install for me so I decided to try it. It's only $2

I'm on day 3 and haven't gotten any lag yet....

Started seeing lags as well
The G1 was very laggy. This phone has no reason to be. It started out great as stock. But once I loaded up my normal apps, it's just started getting very sluggish. It does it in fits and starts - except for certain actions like going to the settings page of the Dolphin browser and exiting the Dolphin browser, or getting the task list of . Those are always sluggish. I also switched the 2GB Micro SD card to a 4GB class 4 MicroSD card and transferred Avatar to it. It has nothing else on it.
I'm going to start deleting software one by one and see what's causing this. But I'm not sure if it's any one software or just the fact that I have some 37 apps loaded.

i am having lag specifically with the stock email app for my exchange account.
my inbox will take sometimes about 5 to 10 seconds to load (shows black screen) and then many messages will be blank for them to load which is typically about 5 seconds.
randomly, some messages load fine. big or small.
in a related issue, i have had various events on this phone completely crash it and the os started over/home screen reloaded.

I stopped using a task killer and I've stopped having issues.

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The G1 was very laggy. This phone has no reason to be. It started out great as stock. But once I loaded up my normal apps, it's just started getting very sluggish. It does it in fits and starts - except for certain actions like going to the settings page of the Dolphin browser and exiting the Dolphin browser, or getting the task list of . Those are always sluggish. I also switched the 2GB Micro SD card to a 4GB class 4 MicroSD card and transferred Avatar to it. It has nothing else on it.
I'm going to start deleting software one by one and see what's causing this. But I'm not sure if it's any one software or just the fact that I have some 37 apps loaded.
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My G1 (albeit with a custom rom and no bloat) was actually more responsive than the Vibrant I used in a T-Mobile store. Which is kinda funny because the guy working there was like "Hey how come your G1 is faster".
And then I went into the internet browser and my G1 performance fell to **** when scrolling through pages.
On topic: Try clearing your cache with the likes of CacheCleaner. It usually helps my G1's performance, dunno what it'll do to the Vibrant.

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What task killer were you talking about ?
I use Taskiller and Minfree and my phone will not even work without them.
If you don't set Taskiller up properly it will cause more problems than you have, YOU HAVE TO setup the ignore list on ALL system apps and services or your phone will go nuts.

Desire HD Lag and Memory Help

Hi All,
I got my Desire HD about 3 weeks ago and have been loving it. However I am now getting a reoccurring problem of Lag. Sometimes its minimal, some times its a large amount.
If I leave my phone on for a considerable amount of time I am finding that I always have to restart to get rid of the lag.
I never really have that many apps open, but sometimes even when playing something like doodle jump its starts to lag.
I am no expert on how phones work, but a couple of friends have iPhones and if you look in their task manager sometimes about 30 apps are left open with no real effect on the phones lag, where as the HD with a better CPU and RAM does not seem to be able to handle it. I decided to go with the Desire HD over the iPhone as i love google, but at the moment the lag is causing laughter amongst my friends who got the iPhone 4!
The only things that I ever really leave running are HTC sense, Facebook for sense (for contacts), Calendar and messaging and GMail. Surely this cannot cause such a hideous amount of lag.
When i look at running services its says "other:77MB in 4 Avail:316+155MB in 30" What does this mean?
I also have android task manager and at the top it says "Available Memory 323M" Is this right? Surely it should be pushing 764? (this is when jsut booted and everything then closed)
Also jsut a quick question, when you pull down the drop down settings bar from the home page, under your carriers names, there is a lsit of apps which you can scroll right on, what are these? Open apps? Recently opened apps?
Also, how do you stop apps starting on start up?
Also, i select kill apps on task manager and then i look 10 mins later and they are running again, why is this?

OMG!!! first thing with android 2.2 DONT! use a task killer tasks will just restart
first there DHD and many other phones have a bit of a lag bug that is caused by a rouge /INIT process to prevent this enable USB debuging in the settings for somereason this fixes it.
the list of apps below the carrier in the notifaction pane is just the recently open application the same list that you would get by pressing and holding the home button these applications are not running.
also ignore the ram thing in the task manager yes the desire has 768mb of ram however a portion of that is locked for i think the fast boot feature (because it works by storing the os and its current state into the ram for fast startup later ~130mb )
also the launcher is also taking up ram when the phone is on
ie...dont worry about it because when android needs more ram it will clear it out for other higher priority applications
but yeah dont use task killers, enable usb debugging stop going crazy over 'missing' ram
i suggest you read about how android multi tasks to you can find it over on the offical android guide website.

I have usb debugging on and I still get bad lag the odd time.

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I have usb debugging on and I still get bad lag the odd time.
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Yeah same here, happened today, quite badly too.

One guaranteed method to get rid of the lag.
PermRoot > Flash Clockwork Mod > Flash an OverClock Kernel > Overclock with SetCPU setting "Performance" as the governor.
Say goodbye to lag, it won't bother you again.
Full guides can be found in the DHD > Android Development section.

try using another launcher, i used to find sense used to be a little laggy at times on my legend but other launchers like launcher pro were fine.
also if you mean lag when typing on the htc ime keyboard disable the haptic feedback vibration for somereason they make it lag out

For me I have USB debugger on, but when I am playing a game, for example Angry Bird, initially it is smooth, but for a while, there will be a lag... Then it will return to normal... I believe its when my syncing occur that causes the lag...

Would turning off quick/fastboot give us more ram ?

The DHD has a shed load of RAM, I wouldn't imagine that leaving Fast Boot on, or turning it off would affect performance or lag directly.

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The DHD has a shed load of RAM, I wouldn't imagine that leaving Fast Boot on, or turning it off would affect performance or lag directly.
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Cool, I wonder how much RAM Fastboot uses ?

JoeBlogs said:
Cool, I wonder how much RAM Fastboot uses ?
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probably that reserved 136mb ?, actually i think if fast boot is disabled it would make no differnce i think that htc have a bit reserved for the os and sense so that all core systems are always loaded.

How do I enable USB debuging exactly? I am in the settings of The phone but can't find usb debugging :s

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How do I enable USB debuging exactly? I am in the settings of The phone but can't find usb debugging :s
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Ram usage
How much ram do you usually have free in daily use?
I'm experiencing Sense reboots when ram gets down <100Mb and it's kinda frustrating waiting the homescreens to bootup again and again.
I'm rooted and using LeeDroids HD 3.0.1 GB ROM and hes custom kernel.

Flash CM7, all of your lag and memory problems will go away :-D
I'm using stock frequency and I never see lag and memory for me doesn't go over 50% unless playing a game or such.
But to have to say goodbuy to sense which is definitely worth it.
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Theres the thing that I like the Sense and don't really want to give it up but I was wondering if other Sense users had similar experiences and how did they manage those
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V6 SuperCharger for a laggy phone

I just want to know if anyone else is running this script. I refused to believe my Nexus S was not behaving, after all, it's a Nexus S! But, eventually even I had to get real. Truth is, lately, no matter what ROM I'm running after a few days things would slow down way too much. Lag, Launcher redraws, FCs due to lag. Things were too slow.
Anyway, I used the V6 SuperCharger script and it really has changed things. I used the MegaRAM option for 512 MB phones and I swear it has been a revelation. Even overclocking couldn't bring about this change. Currently, I'm on MIUI which most people consider to be a bit heavy and clunky. However, after supercharging with the MegaRAM option and Bulletproofing the launcher it's unstoppable! Highly recommended for those of you experiencing phone lag. Make sure to follow the Dev's instructions for using his script. All credit to user: zeppelinrox. Amazing stuff!

Which MegaRAM option did you select? I picked the second option, but I don't know which is better for Nexus S. So far I noticed browser is much much smoother now, other things has always been smooth for me, so I can't really tell the difference.

I used the 2nd MegaRAM option as well. But, I'm going to test out the first option. As I understand it, the more memory you want free in the 3rd slot the less multi tasking you can do (as this is where the secondary apps will be places)...I THINK!
As per that thread if 25 MB is good enough on a Milestone, a Nexus S should do well with 40 MB.
THIS from the thread:
zeppelinrox said:
Additional Info: You can find each app's priority and OOM.
....................... In AMM, Press Menu > Running Processes > Group by OOM grouping.
....................... Expand each group and see what apps are included and each app's priority level. (Higher numbers get killed first!)
....................... If you tap on an app, you can get additional info. Tip: Check and see what's included with android.process.acore
The default minfree values ("kill thresholds") for each OOM group are, as far as I can tell: 6, 8, 16, 20, 22 and 24 mb. (CyanogenMod 6.1.2)
This means that: when free memory lowers to 24 mb, EMPTY_APPS get killed; at 22 mb free ram, CONTENT_PROVIDER apps get killed; and so on...
Now, because the Milestone has only 256 mb of memory, I found these numbers too low, especially the 3rd one.
Basically, with those settings, you will usually be sitting with only 20 - 25 mb of ram.
Possibly less. Basically, it's the 3rd number (16) + 5. That's your free memory.
And my phone just chokes when it has that little ram available. Lag, home screen redrawing, the launcher getting killed.... ugh....
After extensive fiddling around, I've come to the conclusion that setting the third slot to about 25mb works great.
No home screen redraws while not being too aggressive on secondary/background apps while having about 30-35mb free all the time
BTW, free ram is not wasted. Android will use that memory to cache the file system and this speeds things up. See this informative post.
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Si_NZ said:
Which MegaRAM option did you select? I picked the second option, but I don't know which is better for Nexus S. So far I noticed browser is much much smoother now, other things has always been smooth for me, so I can't really tell the difference.
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Just tested the 1st MegaRAM option and things are quite smooth. Launcher is not as buttery as with the 2nd option but, it's still great. The browser does quite well too, pinch to zoom is smooth but, scrolling is a little stuttery on a heavy page like Engadget's.

Just wanted to tell - if you are on my MIUI ROM, don't use it because I have my own RAM Optimization script integrated.

never heard of this till this morning, thanks for bringing it up
trying it out now

brainmaster said:
Just wanted to tell - if you are on my MIUI ROM, don't use it because I have my own RAM Optimization script integrated.
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I love it when a tweaker tells tweakers not to tweak.
Really!

zeppelinrox said:
I love it when a tweaker tells tweakers not to tweak.
Really!
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you should know that two scripts running can cause issues......

zeppelinrox said:
I love it when a tweaker tells tweakers not to tweak.
Really!
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I didn't said anything against your script, just told the users to not use it on my custom ROM. A think that as maker of your script you should know - two RAM scripts on same ROM are doing only damage.

They don't stay running.
They execute and end.
Whichever one runs last is the one that sticks.
Many people were using juwe's script with the V6 script and things ran fine so it's not a big deal.
Of course, if somebody wanted to, they can delete the minfrees in any of their custom roms and plug them into supercharger...
Why do you guys like scaring the crap out of people for nothing? lol

brainmaster said:
Just wanted to tell - if you are on my MIUI ROM, don't use it because I have my own RAM Optimization script integrated.
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Great to hear from you. Haha. Just about to ask you

does it work well with cm7?

mohsin125 said:
does it work well with cm7?
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I'm running it on cm7, and my phone seemed to be a bit snappier
time will tell though

Can someone put this in a stock rom? Sounds too complicated
. Interested in more speed but stock on matrix rom is pretty fast

rican408 said:
Can someone put this in a stock rom? Sounds too complicated
. Interested in more speed but stock on matrix rom is pretty fast
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use this guide, and it will be easier than you could imagine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126940

I tried this and for some reason it derped my sim card, said it was locked (couldnt unlock it when booted as it just went passed the pin screen and onto home screen) and the home button wouldnt work. Anyone got any ideas?

Haizum74 said:
I tried this and for some reason it derped my sim card, said it was locked (couldnt unlock it when booted as it just went passed the pin screen and onto home screen) and the home button wouldnt work. Anyone got any ideas?
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I've seen this problem with the SIM/PIN lock on other ROMs. You might want to try disabling and re-enabling the SIM/PIN lock from settings. It should immediately ask for the PIN and reenable you Home key. What settings did you apply? Maybe they killed off your system guard.
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Just an update on my settings. The MegaRAM seem to really speed everything up but, I find that they weren't being nice to my Whatsapp (I was missing messages now and then) I think Whatsapp would receive the message but get immediately killed before it could broadcast the notification. Once it even seemed to exit in app for no reason at all. So I switched to Balanced Settings 3 and so far Whatsapp as well as the launcher and phone in general has been very responsive.
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I've seen this problem with the SIM/PIN lock on other ROMs. You might want to try disabling and re-enabling the SIM/PIN lock from settings. It should immediately ask for the PIN and reenable you Home key. What settings did you apply? Maybe they killed off your system guard.
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I went for Megaram option 1 (I think). I disabled password and it then worked but by this time I had uninstalled the script. Any particular option you suggest? Cheers for the reply too.

It depends on your usage. I would suggest starting out with Balanced settings 3 and moving up or down the menu depending on whether you want more(down) or less speed(up). I've found that the trade off is speed vs multitasking. Though, I think zeppelinrox could confirm whether I'm right.