I just want to know if anyone else is running this script. I refused to believe my Nexus S was not behaving, after all, it's a Nexus S! But, eventually even I had to get real. Truth is, lately, no matter what ROM I'm running after a few days things would slow down way too much. Lag, Launcher redraws, FCs due to lag. Things were too slow.
Anyway, I used the V6 SuperCharger script and it really has changed things. I used the MegaRAM option for 512 MB phones and I swear it has been a revelation. Even overclocking couldn't bring about this change. Currently, I'm on MIUI which most people consider to be a bit heavy and clunky. However, after supercharging with the MegaRAM option and Bulletproofing the launcher it's unstoppable! Highly recommended for those of you experiencing phone lag. Make sure to follow the Dev's instructions for using his script. All credit to user: zeppelinrox. Amazing stuff!
Which MegaRAM option did you select? I picked the second option, but I don't know which is better for Nexus S. So far I noticed browser is much much smoother now, other things has always been smooth for me, so I can't really tell the difference.
I used the 2nd MegaRAM option as well. But, I'm going to test out the first option. As I understand it, the more memory you want free in the 3rd slot the less multi tasking you can do (as this is where the secondary apps will be places)...I THINK!
As per that thread if 25 MB is good enough on a Milestone, a Nexus S should do well with 40 MB.
THIS from the thread:
zeppelinrox said:
Additional Info: You can find each app's priority and OOM.
....................... In AMM, Press Menu > Running Processes > Group by OOM grouping.
....................... Expand each group and see what apps are included and each app's priority level. (Higher numbers get killed first!)
....................... If you tap on an app, you can get additional info. Tip: Check and see what's included with android.process.acore
The default minfree values ("kill thresholds") for each OOM group are, as far as I can tell: 6, 8, 16, 20, 22 and 24 mb. (CyanogenMod 6.1.2)
This means that: when free memory lowers to 24 mb, EMPTY_APPS get killed; at 22 mb free ram, CONTENT_PROVIDER apps get killed; and so on...
Now, because the Milestone has only 256 mb of memory, I found these numbers too low, especially the 3rd one.
Basically, with those settings, you will usually be sitting with only 20 - 25 mb of ram.
Possibly less. Basically, it's the 3rd number (16) + 5. That's your free memory.
And my phone just chokes when it has that little ram available. Lag, home screen redrawing, the launcher getting killed.... ugh....
After extensive fiddling around, I've come to the conclusion that setting the third slot to about 25mb works great.
No home screen redraws while not being too aggressive on secondary/background apps while having about 30-35mb free all the time
BTW, free ram is not wasted. Android will use that memory to cache the file system and this speeds things up. See this informative post.
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Si_NZ said:
Which MegaRAM option did you select? I picked the second option, but I don't know which is better for Nexus S. So far I noticed browser is much much smoother now, other things has always been smooth for me, so I can't really tell the difference.
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Just tested the 1st MegaRAM option and things are quite smooth. Launcher is not as buttery as with the 2nd option but, it's still great. The browser does quite well too, pinch to zoom is smooth but, scrolling is a little stuttery on a heavy page like Engadget's.
Just wanted to tell - if you are on my MIUI ROM, don't use it because I have my own RAM Optimization script integrated.
never heard of this till this morning, thanks for bringing it up
trying it out now
brainmaster said:
Just wanted to tell - if you are on my MIUI ROM, don't use it because I have my own RAM Optimization script integrated.
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I love it when a tweaker tells tweakers not to tweak.
Really!
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I love it when a tweaker tells tweakers not to tweak.
Really!
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you should know that two scripts running can cause issues......
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I love it when a tweaker tells tweakers not to tweak.
Really!
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I didn't said anything against your script, just told the users to not use it on my custom ROM. A think that as maker of your script you should know - two RAM scripts on same ROM are doing only damage.
They don't stay running.
They execute and end.
Whichever one runs last is the one that sticks.
Many people were using juwe's script with the V6 script and things ran fine so it's not a big deal.
Of course, if somebody wanted to, they can delete the minfrees in any of their custom roms and plug them into supercharger...
Why do you guys like scaring the crap out of people for nothing? lol
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Just wanted to tell - if you are on my MIUI ROM, don't use it because I have my own RAM Optimization script integrated.
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Great to hear from you. Haha. Just about to ask you
does it work well with cm7?
mohsin125 said:
does it work well with cm7?
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I'm running it on cm7, and my phone seemed to be a bit snappier
time will tell though
Can someone put this in a stock rom? Sounds too complicated
. Interested in more speed but stock on matrix rom is pretty fast
rican408 said:
Can someone put this in a stock rom? Sounds too complicated
. Interested in more speed but stock on matrix rom is pretty fast
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use this guide, and it will be easier than you could imagine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126940
I tried this and for some reason it derped my sim card, said it was locked (couldnt unlock it when booted as it just went passed the pin screen and onto home screen) and the home button wouldnt work. Anyone got any ideas?
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I tried this and for some reason it derped my sim card, said it was locked (couldnt unlock it when booted as it just went passed the pin screen and onto home screen) and the home button wouldnt work. Anyone got any ideas?
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I've seen this problem with the SIM/PIN lock on other ROMs. You might want to try disabling and re-enabling the SIM/PIN lock from settings. It should immediately ask for the PIN and reenable you Home key. What settings did you apply? Maybe they killed off your system guard.
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Just an update on my settings. The MegaRAM seem to really speed everything up but, I find that they weren't being nice to my Whatsapp (I was missing messages now and then) I think Whatsapp would receive the message but get immediately killed before it could broadcast the notification. Once it even seemed to exit in app for no reason at all. So I switched to Balanced Settings 3 and so far Whatsapp as well as the launcher and phone in general has been very responsive.
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I've seen this problem with the SIM/PIN lock on other ROMs. You might want to try disabling and re-enabling the SIM/PIN lock from settings. It should immediately ask for the PIN and reenable you Home key. What settings did you apply? Maybe they killed off your system guard.
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I went for Megaram option 1 (I think). I disabled password and it then worked but by this time I had uninstalled the script. Any particular option you suggest? Cheers for the reply too.
It depends on your usage. I would suggest starting out with Balanced settings 3 and moving up or down the menu depending on whether you want more(down) or less speed(up). I've found that the trade off is speed vs multitasking. Though, I think zeppelinrox could confirm whether I'm right.
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Those of you running auto killer in your roms, did you use the aggressive settings or custom?
I'm just curious to see if anyone increased the auto kill.
I use either the aggressive or custom depending on the Rom honestly. DC ROMS= Aggressive. FRESH ROMS= strict. and all others = custom
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I have the damagecontrol rom and I dont know if it came with auto killer or what...I restored my titanium backup and all i know is i dont have it now...is there an apk floating around for it?
Try the market
I thought it was a custom xda application. I didn't see it in
the market.
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I've been using Aggressive on Fresh 2.0d and it's been running great.
I tried Moderate for a while at first, but Homerun Battle 3D wouldn't even startup consistently. Once I changed it to Aggressive it has been working great.
Another quick note. I know Autokiller is supposed to reapply the settings on boot, but I'm not sure mine is. I haven't rebooted for a day or so, but the last couple times I rebooted I couldn't get Homerun Battle to run. Then I went into Autokiller and applied Aggressive again and it would start. Anybody else having similar experiences?
I used either the aggressive or strick on Fresh 2.0d. So far everything is running the smooth and fast. This the way HTC hero should have come out of the box.
What does each preset do? Is this for speed or battery life or both?
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I've been using Aggressive on Fresh 2.0d and it's been running great.
I tried Moderate for a while at first, but Homerun Battle 3D wouldn't even startup consistently. Once I changed it to Aggressive it has been working great.
Another quick note. I know Autokiller is supposed to reapply the settings on boot, but I'm not sure mine is. I haven't rebooted for a day or so, but the last couple times I rebooted I couldn't get Homerun Battle to run. Then I went into Autokiller and applied Aggressive again and it would start. Anybody else having similar experiences?
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Damn. I wish Homerun Battle 3D would run great for me. Problem is I get crummy service at work and with it going in and out of 1x and EVDO, causes the game to lag.
I have noticed sometimes on first opening HRB, it force closes but it always opens the second time.
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Those of you running auto killer in your roms, did you use the aggressive settings or custom?
I'm just curious to see if anyone increased the auto kill.
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i'm running aosp 1.6 from gbhil and i used custom autokiller settings.
the way i see it they made these phones with all this ram may as well use it, what good is it to have all this free ram?
1536,3072,4096 (all default) then hidden app is 7680. content provider is 8960 and empty app is 10240. i normally run around 40-45 free ram thats about where i like it. the phone still runs fine all the way down to 20mb free but any less than that it starts going downhill.
so, im MB my settings are 30 then 35 then 40. runs great!
yeah, I get some lag now and then if I don't have great service. Playing offline seems to work fine though. I think it's just the online play that it effects. A co-worker has a Droid and his lags when playing online as well if he's in a spot without good service.
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yeah, I get some lag now and then if I don't have great service. Playing offline seems to work fine though. I think it's just the online play that it effects. A co-worker has a Droid and his lags when playing online as well if he's in a spot without good service.
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Well, mine actually lags on offline play too. As long as the phone isnt switching back and forth, it runs smooth.
How can you remove this autokiller crap, I have tried freshkitchen, uninstaller, and from settings-applications menu, all to no avail
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How can you remove this autokiller crap, I have tried freshkitchen, uninstaller, and from settings-applications menu, all to no avail
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Using command prompt (adb)
adb shell
# rm Autokiller.apk
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Using command prompt (adb)
adb shell
# rm Autokiller.apk
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Ohh thanks much appreciated.
I did not try that way, I figured if it couldn't be done in freshkitchen then it was just built into the rom. Thanks much again
Just stop using task killers entirely. This isn't Windows Mobile guys. You're getting all OCD in here about the placebo effect.
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Just stop using task killers entirely. This isn't Windows Mobile guys. You're getting all OCD in here about the placebo effect.
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Autokiller does have a built in task killer but its real use is to tweak memory settings at boot and then shuts itself down (so Android can take care of the rest). So, in reality it is not really a task killer per say.
Fair enough, but it's still entirely pointless. I trust the device manufacturer and Android far more than I ever would the random numbers that I might otherwise delude myself into believing were somehow better.
Just let Android do its thing all of the time. It doesn't need any additional help (particularly with the process management in 2.1). Stop including this garbage in ROMs.
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Fair enough, but it's still entirely pointless. I trust the device manufacturer and Android far more than I ever would the random numbers that I might otherwise delude myself into believing were somehow better.
Just let Android do its thing all of the time. It doesn't need any additional help (particularly with the process management in 2.1). Stop including this garbage in ROMs.
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It actually very useful for making roms run smoother. By default the memory numbers are very low, which lets a TON of apps run at the same time. The higher the memory numbers the more it ends apps that you werent even using. It gives what you are currently running or recently ran more priority. Even if you dont use AutoKiller, which is just an app to adjust the memory setting, every rom comes with an edited memory setting other then htc's default. Its most commonly known as gumbo's memory settings.
Also in AutoKiller you can adjust the settings to default, or just really low like htc would have them set.
Its really not a bad thing to include in roms because most people want there rom to be smooth and as close to lag free as they can get. AutoKiller helps achieve that by ending stuff you dont currently have up making the phone run faster. Thats if you have a decently set setting. I run mine on optimum, and it doenst close unnecessary things like if im on the web it stays running.
I can understand an app like Task Killer which just terminates the apps. AutoKiller is just setting the memory setting of your phone, which end apps the same way as if the phone were running normally. Just if the numbers are higher the more apps it will end quicker freeing up more space.
Also you really trust htc and sprint?? haha good luck with that
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It actually very useful for making roms run smoother. By default the memory numbers are very low, which lets a TON of apps run at the same time. The higher the memory numbers the more it ends apps that you werent even using. It gives what you are currently running or recently ran more priority. Even if you dont use AutoKiller, which is just an app to adjust the memory setting, every rom comes with an edited memory setting other then htc's default. Its most commonly known as gumbo's memory settings.
Also in AutoKiller you can adjust the settings to default, or just really low like htc would have them set.
Its really not a bad thing to include in roms because most people want there rom to be smooth and as close to lag free as they can get. AutoKiller helps achieve that by ending stuff you dont currently have up making the phone run faster. Thats if you have a decently set setting. I run mine on optimum, and it doenst close unnecessary things like if im on the web it stays running.
I can understand an app like Task Killer which just terminates the apps. AutoKiller is just setting the memory setting of your phone, which end apps the same way as if the phone were running normally. Just if the numbers are higher the more apps it will end quicker freeing up more space.
Also you really trust htc and sprint?? haha good luck with that
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Either way it should be a choice made by the USER not someone who decides what I need or do not need on my phone. What I choose to have running or not running, there is no need for this garbage for the average joe who just wants something that does not look and feel like Sprint garbage. If its such a great and useful thing put it on the market and let users have a choice.
Alright...so i wanna see what else is working for other ppl.... Like many others im sure u like ur devices quick and snappy....
Ive noticed that disabling surface dithering helps performance for me.....
With Compcache my home screen doesnt have to reload as much when i go back to it from an app.
I have Jit enabled....still cant decide if it hurts or helps.....anybody else?
I left the vm heap size at 16 (stock) ....im guessing its virtual memory but havent tested different settings...
In ADW launcher I have it set up for 4 screens cuz i dont really need anymore...
I set the Desktop scrolling and overshoot both to 0 and have disabled scrollable widget support, and also disabled the Animated drawer effect and the Fade App Labels.
I have the screen cache and system persistent enabled.
I know the adw launcher settings might not be real performance...but it does make the homescreen and app drawer feel much quicker.
What else do you guys use? Whats working for u?
Avoid froyo2sd like the plague.
There are good things about it, but its implementation is riddled with memory and cpu consumption. We need to kill all 8 trillion redundant mounts and all the encryption to make it viable.... that and get the dalvik cache and home directories onto the sdcard with the apk.
guess ill be moving the apps back to the phone to test out performance....thanx
CM6 has been one of the fastest roms I've ever flashed. Here's my current settings:
I've always used compcache so I'm not sure if it helps performance or not anymore.
VM heap size as I understand it from a few google searches is related to the amount of ram dedicated/allocated to/per background process(es). I currently have mine a 12mb with no weird side effects.
The argument for jit is that it makes opening apps a little slower but it helps out with intensive apps like maps and browser. I have it on and my dialer still opens within 2 seconds, and browser seems better so idk.
ADW with 0 scrolling speed looks ugly and jerky =p I usually stick within 300-400, using only three screens, no dockbar, no nexus dots, sliding top paginator, no drawer animation, no status bar (you can swipe up/down and it shows up anyway), no background on the lab/rab/launcher,no scrollable widgets, screen cache, etc. I only use the calendar, powercontrol, and 4*4 music widget and a handful of icons. I find those settings to be smooth as butter.
I also turned off autorrotation except for 180*, I always find it annoying when I have my phone in my lap or I'm laying down watching tv and it rotates on me, and sometimes it's more comfortable to hold the phone upside down (I also use it when i listen to music so the headphones are on top). Also 3D gallery has no rotate bugs for me....
Yeah those settings haven't failed me yet. I haven't even gotten around to overclocking since its so good and speedy.
I noticed a huge difference when I swapped from adwlauncher to launcherpro, launcherpro just seems a lot faster and smoother then adw. I'm also running compcache and jit, overclocked to 610mhz. I'm getting linpack scores of.4.25 MFLOPS, quadrant scores of 370 and neocore scores of 21FPS(sound) and 24.1FPS(no sound). My phone is definitely running faster then it ever has..now the real test is mastering swype...
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how did U overclock to 610
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how did U overclock to 610
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same question. what kernal did you use to overclock above 576? when you used a different kernal, did it break wifi or anything?
my experience:
I left OC at 576,
turned off dithering
turned compcache on
turned jit on, and reboot
no swap, but type free in terminal to make sure compcache is working.
go into normal phone settings > display > turned off all animations
go into ADW settings and turned off animations, turned desktop scrolling speed to as fast as possible, turned off animated drawer, make sure system persistent is checked, and just made sure all scrolling speeds are set to as fast as possible with no animations or fades.
for me this thing is flying. as fast as any donut I ever flashed and way faster then any 2.1. with the above settings, im constantly getting a little over 4 mflops.
no lag, and only once in a while will it reload the launcher when returning to home. if i enable swap it may never do it
get a random FC every one in a while (not often at all) but no big deal.
just wanted to share what i did and my experience so far
still wondering if anyone has OC past 576 and with what kernal. if so, what any problems? or battery life issues?
I really don't suggest a bigger OC then 576 unless you have a big battery....
My findings are each Mhz of overclock drives down battery 2%. My phone overclocks steady at 691 w/ no reboot but battery doesn't live more then a few hours. I haven't even used set cpu yet since I feel the rom is fast enough.
Oh and linpack results don't really matter at all.... Your phone does not often have to perform loads of math and java calculations...
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I really don't suggest a bigger OC then 576 unless you have a big battery....
My findings are each Mhz of overclock drives down battery 2%. My phone overclocks steady at 691 w/ no reboot but battery doesn't live more then a few hours. I haven't even used set cpu yet since I feel the rom is fast enough.
Oh and linpack results don't really matter at all.... Your hpone does not often have to preform loads of math and java calculations...
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ok thanks.
i know you said you have not used set cpu yet, but I think CM6 is overclocked to 576 automatically upon flashing the rom
at least when i hit autodetect, it detected 576 and 122
I hate all you people.
CM6 runs HORRIBLY slow for me. Tried every speed tip I can do - it's just unreasonably slow. Yes, I wiped before I flashed, even redownloaded CM6 and have latest gapps. Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm talking about so slow I can't get to my homescreen from an app in less than 30 seconds.
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I hate all you people.
CM6 runs HORRIBLY slow for me. Tried every speed tip I can do - it's just unreasonably slow. Yes, I wiped before I flashed, even redownloaded CM6 and have latest gapps. Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm talking about so slow I can't get to my homescreen from an app in less than 30 seconds.
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im on mytouch 32b also. sorry to hear about your really bad experience.
i know you tried everything, but you could always re-wipe everything, flash rom, flash gaps 3 then try all the tweaks I posted in this thread on previous page
r3s-rt said:
I hate all you people.
CM6 runs HORRIBLY slow for me. Tried every speed tip I can do - it's just unreasonably slow. Yes, I wiped before I flashed, even redownloaded CM6 and have latest gapps. Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm talking about so slow I can't get to my homescreen from an app in less than 30 seconds.
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Try checking persistant home in ADW settings
r3s-rt said:
I hate all you people.
CM6 runs HORRIBLY slow for me. Tried every speed tip I can do - it's just unreasonably slow. Yes, I wiped before I flashed, even redownloaded CM6 and have latest gapps. Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm talking about so slow I can't get to my homescreen from an app in less than 30 seconds.
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do the persistant thing in adw it keeps launcher in memory after that rare home reloads use set cpu and oc to 576 and a528 thats what i have and i would suggest doing fix_permissions through terminal just did that it took like 3 min but damn its freaking fast now and i was about to get rid of cm6 cause it was starting to run sluggish
I've been using: compcache on, JIT on, dithering off (which was a big one), and VM size set to 16. Also I ditched ADW for LauncherPro and CM6 is no slower than CM5 was for me, if anything its faster. I'm loving that my G1 boots twice as fast on CM6
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same question. what kernal did you use to overclock above 576? when you used a different kernal, did it break wifi or anything?
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I used dumfuqs 610 kernel to OC it runs fine with wifi. I agree it strains the battery but I'm not overly fussed over battery life.
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I used dumfuqs 610 kernel to OC it runs fine with wifi. I agree it strains the battery but I'm not overly fussed over battery life.
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it was either the 710 or 614......
gringo69 said:
it was either the 710 or 614......
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Hahaha **** at time of writing I must of been confused too I meant the 614 .
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im on mytouch 32b also. sorry to hear about your really bad experience.
i know you tried everything, but you could always re-wipe everything, flash rom, flash gaps 3 then try all the tweaks I posted in this thread on previous page
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do the persistant thing in adw it keeps launcher in memory after that rare home reloads use set cpu and oc to 576 and a528 thats what i have and i would suggest doing fix_permissions through terminal just did that it took like 3 min but damn its freaking fast now and i was about to get rid of cm6 cause it was starting to run sluggish
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Done it all. :/ When I mean horribly laggy, I mean that I would miss a phone call before the phone got off of the lockscreen to accept it. :/
I'm persistent, though, and tried again today. For some reason everything seems to be running like it should now. Time to finally get to try these speed tips. =]
Dialer
anyone else having problems with being able to answer calls? the slider doesnt show at all
ive tried:
kanging the Phone.apk from the LFD froyo
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installing the Phone.apk from the Cytown thread none which have worked and yes ive flashed, wiped and done everything correctly
I rooted my phone a few months back and it's slow switching between a few screens, mostly from calling or web browsing back to home. Painfully slow, sometimes up to a minute. It's always been like this and I just want to know if there's steps I can take to speed it up or if it's just a memory problem. I used Cyanogen 6.1 to upgrade to android 2.2.1
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Kernel 2.6.35-9cyanogenmod [email protected]#2
Build number - FRG83
G1's are just slow!
Try keeping it lite. Uninstalling apps, keeping the essential ones, app2sd?
Don't have loads of widgets on your homescreen.
Task manager, i recommend ATK.
Hope this helps.
chitin said:
I rooted my phone a few months back and it's slow switching between a few screens, mostly from calling or web browsing back to home. Painfully slow, sometimes up to a minute. It's always been like this and I just want to know if there's steps I can take to speed it up or if it's just a memory problem. I used Cyanogen 6.1 to upgrade to android 2.2.1
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Kernel 2.6.35-9cyanogenmod [email protected]#2
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If you are up to it, flash different ROM. There are ROM out there that is lightweight and fast. My personal favorites is SuperAosp. Currently they just released SuperAosp 6.0 that is fast and also best on bettery life.
flyboyovyick said:
G1's are just slow!
Try keeping it lite. Uninstalling apps, keeping the essential ones, app2sd?
Don't have loads of widgets on your homescreen.
Task manager, i recommend ATK.
Hope this helps.
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Well, it's slow compared to what's out there, but it isn't "one minute to switch apps" slow for me... without a task manager or auto-killer. Every time I wipe I install nine apps from Market, and ten from SD card. They may sit back and be inactive if I've opened them, but they don't just all run at once and slow down to "one minute each switch"...
I'd agree with the widgets on homescreen though. I tend to avoid them out of preference, but they 'can' eat memory faster than we can down a beer. I don't have anything locked in memory except Messaging. Depending on what I'm switching from, it doesn't usually take that long to switch. If it's something like Skyfire -then no matter what I'm doing, the G1 just dies and Skyfire force closes pretty quickly. It just cannot handle such a memory hog. If I play SNesoid, I never see a force close and it takes seconds to switch. I don't fully understand it, but consider how resource heavy your apps are.
Seems to me you have swap enabled and now it's swapping ...
Try to run without swap / compcache and see if this helps.
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AndDiSa said:
Seems to me you have swap enabled and now it's swapping ...
Try to run without swap / compcache and see if this helps.
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Reducing the widgets helped a lot. It's very usable now until I need to upgrade to 4G. Thanks for the recommendation. What is swap enabled?
Might I recommend trying a different ROM? On my Samsung Vibrant, I had stock TouchWiz and it went slow as hell, I tried another custom ROM and it works great. Much much MUCH faster, trust me get a different ROM, ask around for the best most light weight one, Super AOSP w what someone recommended here? Try that.
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Def check froyobylazlo 5.2 you'll need the new radio/spl hack by ezterry but its soo worth it. Auto memory manager helps out greatly too cuz its based off androids internal tasker instead of just another program made from someone else. With that app your g1 will fly even on default settings, on extreme....lol thank me later
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My G1 got slower recently, but not one minute slower. I've been really good about not installing anything except I configured titanium backup to run automatically, but the home screen has been crashing a lot too for some reason.
All I did was create three shortcuts for calling and texting someone. Those aren't the same as widgets are they?
Hey,
I was using swiftdroid last two days and it appears to be killing all apps almost as soon as I quit it. I checked with Advanced Task Killer and it appears swiftdroid is trying to keep at least 45MB free even after I enabled 32MB swap with built-in VRAM.
This is very annoying. It keeps quitting facebook chat and IMO chat as soon as I switch to another app. I'm aware GT540 has very low memory but the thing is in stock, I didn't have any problem even though I didn't have VRAM/swap. I usually get around 25MB RAM free all the time and most apps stay in memory. I'm usually like able to launch the IM app, facebook app and still be able to use the browser or file expert or messaging app.
So, is there's a workaround? It's really annoying when it keeps quitting the IM app just like that!
Sorry for saying it's annoying. I know we get this for free and I shouldn't be complaining at all. It's just that it pissed me by quitting IM app, the only app I want to stay in the memory.
What version of Swiftdroid are you using
The latest one (M5), has improved RAM management a lot
And comes with better battery life, too
I got the same thing. Always 40-45mb free and apps being killed quickly. I'm on M5. Someone said that Joestone's AOSP is better in this aspect, but I didn't test it yet.
Mitalca:
I'm on M4. I downloaded M5 only today. I don't think it lacks good RAM management. It's just that its memory management settings have been tweaked to keep maximum possible amount of RAM free so that any new app will launch faster. Am sure there must be a switch to change it.
EazyLuke:
I don't really have any problems with stock 2.1. I checked out Joe's AOSP and swiftdroid. The only real advantage apart from speed is voice input. In Joe's AOSP, I couldn't get voice to work. In swiftdroid, it worked.
that's what I meant with RAM management
Maurik changed the settings on M5
mhoangtr said:
In M4 rom, lowmemorykiller setting is 6,8,16,20,32,40 MB so apps killed too fast.
If you want to keep apps longer, try set to 6,8,16,20,22,24 MB (this is default value of android).
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But I don't know how can you change that setting in M4
Try M5, if it ain't working for you, go to Joe's
Mitalca said:
that's what I meant with RAM management
Maurik changed the settings on M5
But I don't know how can you change that setting in M4
Try M5, if it ain't working for you, go to Joe's
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@Mitalca: That's the whole purpose of the post. I couldn't find the option where I can change 6,8,16,20,32,40 MB to 6,8,16,20,22,24 MB.
How do I change it?
You can change these values with e.g. this application https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&feature=search_result
I installed this app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
It does the same thing.
I set the values to 6-8-12-18-20-20. Now I'll have to see if that brings an improvement.
EDIT: Tested it for a few minutes. And it seems to be an awesome improvement! I can switch from Facebook, Twitter and Browser, and everything is kept in memory, meaning these apps don't have to reload everything!
And it seems to be stable. I also use some of the "advanced system tweaks settings".
Thanks you guys.
XDA memebers. Useful as ever.
I'm gonna try both the apps and keep the app with slicker interface.
M5 isn't working.
Says assert failed when trying to flash via recovery.
Trys v6 SuperCharger!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
It Works Perfectly on our GT540!
I found this problematic, too.
I installed M5 yesterday. Everything is great except this (and I don't like oversensitive accelerometer, but it's not urgent problem ).
Last night I listened Music player, and surfed via Miren. After two opened tabs, Music player shut down . After four opened tabs, phone rebooted. Factory widgets' widgets are useless with this agressive RAM menagment.
hash87 said:
You can change these values with e.g. this application https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&feature=search_result
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Thanks man.
Works excellent .
EazyLuke said:
I installed this app: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
It does the same thing.
I set the values to 6-8-12-18-20-20. Now I'll have to see if that brings an improvement.
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To bad - it want access to too much permissions.
Access to too much permissions? Use LBE Privacy Guard!
What permissions?
And by the way, I wrote a PM to Mur4ik and asked him to try this app out. Maybe he'll change the numbers for RAM-management in his next release if he thinks it's an improvement.
EazyLuke said:
What permissions?
And by the way, I wrote a PM to Mur4ik and asked him to try this app out. Maybe he'll change the numbers for RAM-management in his next release if he thinks it's an improvement.
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There are plenty of custom ROMs that use Mur4ik's config. It boils down to personal preference. Do you want newer apps to launch really fast or do you want certain apps to stay in memory all the time?
Multi-taskers would prefer to have all apps in memory while people who like doing one thing at a time or who use phone for gaming mainly would prefer Mur4ik's config which launches apps faster.
The best thing for Mur4ik is to include an option to change the memory management config depending on user.
After changing the numbers my apps don't really seem to open slower.
In my opinion Mur4ik could lower the numbers a little bit, to allow better multitasking, but still let new apps open fast (just my personal opinion).
But I don't say he HAS TO do that, just a suggestion, if he doesn't like it it isn't a problem at all, because everyone can simply adjust the numbers easily .
That's true. xD
If I were to suggest, I'd suggest to add the option to change these settings. Apps opening fast depends on what individual apps are in the memory and what new app you are opening.
For example, if you open Angry Birds while your memory is at 16MB, you certainly can't expect it to open fast.
On the other hand, if you open messaging app while memory is at 16MB, it certainly will open faster.
But, I really disliked the apps Swiftdroid had in the latest release. I had to get rid of the whole GO suit with Uninstaller for Root.
nibras_reeza said:
But, I really disliked the apps Swiftdroid had in the latest release. I had to get rid of the whole GO suit with Uninstaller for Root.
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Try M6, was released yesterday, it's completely clean! Only Tonepicker and QuickSettings are added.
SWEETTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD
you could also try to put mur4ik rom in the kitchen and play with autokiller settings ...
this is michalak8 from android.com.pl (mike's froYo dev) looking for that magic 10 posts to post my rom) Could someone close the rom thread in development section - I would like to post it my self without google-translate bugs
mikegapinski
So I just got this thing, and it, like my last 2 Android devices, has this very annoying issue: it loses my browser tabs.
It's really annoying - it means that the browser will reload my tabs when I come back to it.
It also means that I lose the text I typed in the page, and that if I'm on a slow or a metered connection, I'll end up having to wait for my tabs to load and waste my bandwidth.
I tried EVERYTHING.
All the browsers: Dolphin, AOSP Browser, Chrome, Firefox, Boat, Maxthon, Opera.
I set my OOM values to zero.
Tried V6 supercharger.
Nothing helped. I just can't get my browser to stay in memory.
Is there a way to make it stay?
Or just completely kill the built-in multitasking manager Android has?
I'd rather just kill tasks myself with a real task manager. (and don't give me the 'leave it to android, task managers are bad' bull**** - I've heard all that before, and honestly, at this point, I don't even care anymore - I just want my browser to work right)
Have you tried bulletproofing it with the supercharger script?
Sent from my Nexus 7
Yep. Didn't work.
Though considering how long the guide is, I probably ****ed something up. Gonna give it another try.
Tried it again. Didn't work.
Tried Swapper 2
didn't work
tried v6 for the third time
did everything right for sure
didn't work.
SilverHedgehog said:
tried v6 for the third time
did everything right for sure
didn't work.
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Using the latest supercharger script?
android automatically closes apps after a certain amount of time
The newest supercharger script disables that 'feature' of android
Are you playing intensive games that gobble up ram by any chance?
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Yeah, latest V6 - replaced services.jar and etc.
The script says that I'm 200% supercharged.
I do play games, but not that often. Still, I'd rather just manage apps manually at this point - really not happy with Android's idea of multitasking.
SilverHedgehog said:
Yeah, latest V6 - replaced services.jar and etc.
The script says that I'm 200% supercharged.
I do play games, but not that often. Still, I'd rather just manage apps manually at this point - really not happy with Android's idea of multitasking.
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what rom are you using? using aosp and the aosp android stock browser(not chrome thats in stock) i dont get browser reloads. chrome needs too much ram i think, and am happy that aosp uses the regular android browser. and i agree with you about managing apps/memory manually, i dont like how android manages it also.
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what rom are you using? using aosp and the aosp android stock browser(not chrome thats in stock) i dont get browser reloads. chrome needs too much ram i think, and am happy that aosp uses the regular android browser. and i agree with you about managing apps/memory manually, i dont like how android manages it also.
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right now i'm on paranoid 2.12
SilverHedgehog said:
right now i'm on paranoid 2.12
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maybe its the rom with the memory management issues
Chrome always saved my tabs, it was am little annoying to be honest, I would forget to close tabs and end up with like 10-15 tabs open lol
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Chrome always saved my tabs, it was am little annoying to be honest, I would forget to close tabs and end up with like 10-15 tabs open lol
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Same here. I actually just opened up about 4 or 5 tabs in Chrome, shut down my tablet, then turned it back on. All the tabs were saved and opened up just fine. I'm on the stock ROM, perhaps it maybe the OP's custom ROM that's causing problems.
Can't be - I tried it on stock, and the issue was there.
Chrome does save tabs, but tell me, when you open it, is the page content instantly showing, or is it reloading it?
For me it is reloading them most of the time. While it's better than nothing, it's still annoying: imagine typing a long post, switching for a moment to check something, and coming back, only to see the browser reload the page - with all the text missing.
Same problem for me. Dolphin keeps getting killed when it is for an extended time in the background although free ram never dropped below 300 mb. I am on Paranoid Android and the newest beta of Faux kernel.
anyone? surely there has to be some solution!
there has to be a way to get true multitasking!
Ups, totally forgot to post my findings in this thread, good thing I have it still subscribed.
I got rid of most of my issues by modifing my service.jar for use of the supercharger script with pepcisko's Windows tool for patching services.jar for V6 SuperCharger (0.9.0.6). I didn't even used the actual supercharger script, just run the Windows tool and applied it to the Nexus 7. IIRC the tool asked me at one point if it should deactivate Android's "kill everything that is longer than 30 minutes in the background function" (WTF?).
Don't forget to raise your minfree settings or your system will start to slow down after some time.
Word of warning: On Paranoid Android 2.13 and Faux Kernel I think my N7 was slower than it was before. But that could be just a negative placebo. And I did still expirince some time that dolphin got killed in the background even though memory usage wasn't up to the minfree setting but it only happend two times at all.
Anyway, I'm now using Clemsyn's Elite Kernel (version of 8/17/2012) @ 1.5 ghz and Jay's Recipe for Buttery Goodness and my N7 is flying.
Tool for patching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869663
Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831780
Butter:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831780
yeah, i have that, but as you said, it still gets killed sometimes.
Hi I'm the guy from the other thread. In case you don't know, stock browser is designed to reload the webpage whenever you return to it. It never gets killed. Proof? Disconnect from 3G or WiFi so you have no connection and maybe play a game. Then go back to browser and the page doesn't reload because they know you have no internet and they create a cache file. Lol.
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