When I loaded my phone up like my N1 it started to get really laggy so I download minfree and setcpu and now it's a bit better
the stock linpack for me was 5.9 and when used setcpu and put it on ondemand it went up to 9.1
Samsung hurry up with Android 2.2 PLZ
are you using any profiles or special set of rules that you could share?
SetCPU will constantly crash and restart the phone, not completely it seems but I uninstalled and got a refund.
siberslug said:
When I loaded my phone up like my N1 it started to get really laggy so I download minfree and setcpu and now it's a bit better
the stock linpack for me was 5.9 and when used setcpu and put it on ondemand it went up to 9.1
Samsung hurry up with Android 2.2 PLZ
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My Vibrant is stock with all my apps loaded, and my linpack scores are in the 8's.
same here linpack in 8.1-8.4 and quadrant around 890.
Not yet rooted, two widgets, live wallpaper, 20 additional apps.
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SetCPU will constantly crash and restart the phone, not completely it seems but I uninstalled and got a refund.
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Did you have it set to ondemand? The dev has stated that it works on the Galaxy phones if it's set to conservative. I've had it running on conservative for at least 4 hours now with no reboots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727006
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I had it on ondemand but every time the screen was off for more than 10 min the screen would not come back on.
I uninstalled it and everything was fine, then I reinstalled it and left it on conservative but adjusted the speed to 400 min -1000 Max 20-100% and 100 min -400 Max 0-20% and it works fine.
I also notice that this phone runs way more apps in the background than a N1, the N1 runs 28-35 apps in the background before the system starts shutting things down and this phone runs 50+, the last time I counted after bootup it was at 59.
So I started using an app I bought like 1 year ago, Taskiller Pro and set it up for autokill when screen is turn off and my phone works great.
SykesAT said:
same here linpack in 8.1-8.4 and quadrant around 890.
Not yet rooted, two widgets, live wallpaper, 20 additional apps.
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Linpack 8.4
Quadrant 806
siberslug said:
I had it on ondemand but every time the screen was off for more than 10 min the screen would not come back on.
I uninstalled it and everything was fine, then I reinstalled it and left it on conservative but adjusted the speed to 400 min -1000 Max 20-100% and 100 min -400 Max 0-20% and it works fine.
I also notice that this phone runs way more apps in the background than a N1, the N1 runs 28-35 apps in the background before the system starts shutting things down and this phone runs 50+, the last time I counted after bootup it was at 59.
So I started using an app I bought like 1 year ago, Taskiller Pro and set it up for autokill when screen is turn off and my phone works great.
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great, thanks for the advice!
Yesterday and continuing to today my Vibrant has really started struggling. I have tried a couple of different task manager's and task killers and it is still very slow. I have also uninstalled setCPU and still nothing has changed...
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No problem
zenlakin said:
Yesterday and continuing to today my Vibrant has really started struggling. I have tried a couple of different task manager's and task killers and it is still very slow. I have also uninstalled setCPU and still nothing has changed...
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Find out how many apps are running after a reboot and find out what services each of those apps are accessing.
If you see a game or say a pic editor that is accessing a service it does not need like gps or anything like that delete it and find something similar.
I'm finding that these apps that are accessing parts of the phone they do not need and sending your personal info to the developer and when you get a bunch of these types of apps it puts a huge strain on your phone.
Also download a task manager that kills your selected apps when the screen turns off, just remember to setup an ignore list and include all the systems services and launcher in that list or your phone will freak out.
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SetCPU will constantly crash and restart the phone, not completely it seems but I uninstalled and got a refund.
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You know SetCPU is a free download on the XDA forums right lol
The one on the market is the Donate version so you basically donated to Iforgethisnamewhomadesetcpu and then took back your donation heh.
It wouldn't install for me so I decided to try it. It's only $2
I'm on day 3 and haven't gotten any lag yet....
Started seeing lags as well
The G1 was very laggy. This phone has no reason to be. It started out great as stock. But once I loaded up my normal apps, it's just started getting very sluggish. It does it in fits and starts - except for certain actions like going to the settings page of the Dolphin browser and exiting the Dolphin browser, or getting the task list of . Those are always sluggish. I also switched the 2GB Micro SD card to a 4GB class 4 MicroSD card and transferred Avatar to it. It has nothing else on it.
I'm going to start deleting software one by one and see what's causing this. But I'm not sure if it's any one software or just the fact that I have some 37 apps loaded.
i am having lag specifically with the stock email app for my exchange account.
my inbox will take sometimes about 5 to 10 seconds to load (shows black screen) and then many messages will be blank for them to load which is typically about 5 seconds.
randomly, some messages load fine. big or small.
in a related issue, i have had various events on this phone completely crash it and the os started over/home screen reloaded.
I stopped using a task killer and I've stopped having issues.
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The G1 was very laggy. This phone has no reason to be. It started out great as stock. But once I loaded up my normal apps, it's just started getting very sluggish. It does it in fits and starts - except for certain actions like going to the settings page of the Dolphin browser and exiting the Dolphin browser, or getting the task list of . Those are always sluggish. I also switched the 2GB Micro SD card to a 4GB class 4 MicroSD card and transferred Avatar to it. It has nothing else on it.
I'm going to start deleting software one by one and see what's causing this. But I'm not sure if it's any one software or just the fact that I have some 37 apps loaded.
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My G1 (albeit with a custom rom and no bloat) was actually more responsive than the Vibrant I used in a T-Mobile store. Which is kinda funny because the guy working there was like "Hey how come your G1 is faster".
And then I went into the internet browser and my G1 performance fell to **** when scrolling through pages.
On topic: Try clearing your cache with the likes of CacheCleaner. It usually helps my G1's performance, dunno what it'll do to the Vibrant.
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What task killer were you talking about ?
I use Taskiller and Minfree and my phone will not even work without them.
If you don't set Taskiller up properly it will cause more problems than you have, YOU HAVE TO setup the ignore list on ALL system apps and services or your phone will go nuts.
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hi all,
i m new user for Nexus one, i wonder what is the best task apps to auto kill when the phone in sleep mode in order to save battery. My phone havent ROOT yet, shall i do it? After i have update the Android 2.1 i found it very good compare with iphone.
thank you very much
Killing tasks won't help to save battery... don't buy the hype. Android will manage your apps for you.
No killing tasks can help your battery. There are many apps on the market that are poorly written and drain battery.
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No killing tasks can help your battery. There are many apps on the market that are poorly written and drain battery.
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Well that makes sense... but I don't run any poorly written apps. And neither should you.
If you absolutely have to have a task killer, just download Astro File Manager. You'll need a file manager on this phone anyway, and Astro has a built in configurable task killer and can also back up apps to SD.
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Well that makes sense... but I don't run any poorly written apps. And neither should you.
If you absolutely have to have a task killer, just download Astro File Manager. You'll need a file manager on this phone anyway, and Astro has a built in configurable task killer and can also back up apps to SD.
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I try not to. But sometimes I get curious and download some random apps haha.
I use Advance Task Manager since I bought it when I had a Cliq.
It works good when I need to kill something to restart it or if I need to do a batch uninstall.
Astro is amazing and no one should have an android phone without it.
Thks all,
If so, i shall just leave as it is and not install any of those task killer or auto task etc......
But anyway to min the battery drain since there are so much apps running on RAM when the phone is in sleep mode. My battery can only last for 8 hrs from 9am till 5pm (i am so distracted, i do turn on my BT and talk on phone for at least 100mins-150mins a day.)
Thank you
chocodip said:
Thks all,
If so, i shall just leave as it is and not install any of those task killer or auto task etc......
But anyway to min the battery drain since there are so much apps running on RAM when the phone is in sleep mode. My battery can only last for 8 hrs from 9am till 5pm (i am so distracted, i do turn on my BT and talk on phone for at least 100mins-150mins a day.)
Thank you
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Keep the screen brightness as low as you can. Also having a lot of widgets can contribute to battery drain.
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Killing tasks won't help to save battery... don't buy the hype. Android will manage your apps for you.
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while this is true, I notice that android's threshold for closing programs is lower than I prefer. It seems to start closing programs at around 25 mb free (on stock kernel and rom) as reported by ES strong's task manager. At this level there is a noticeable amount of sluggishness on my N1. Of course this only lasts for perhaps 10 seconds or so as I am switching apps or whatever until android closes the processes to free up some ram.
I've read comments like yours many times, and I go back to not using one for a while thinking I must just be paranoid. Each time I return to the task manager because I get ticked about sluggishness.
If you manage your ignore list carefully to avoid closing stuff you actually want running in the background you lose nothing. The phone is fast enough that it loads apps quickly even if they're not sitting in the ram, so I prefer to hit the autokill widget once in a while or after using something like the youtube app or other resource hogging apps that I don't use on a regular basis.
I haven't noticed a difference in battery life, but the task manager improves my experience with the phone. It seems that as long as the free memory stays around 40+ I don't see the sluggishness.
Which task killer you use?
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while this is true, I notice that android's threshold for closing programs is lower than I prefer. It seems to start closing programs at around 25 mb free (on stock kernel and rom) as reported by ES strong's task manager. At this level there is a noticeable amount of sluggishness on my N1. Of course this only lasts for perhaps 10 seconds or so as I am switching apps or whatever until android closes the processes to free up some ram.
I've read comments like yours many times, and I go back to not using one for a while thinking I must just be paranoid. Each time I return to the task manager because I get ticked about sluggishness.
If you manage your ignore list carefully to avoid closing stuff you actually want running in the background you lose nothing. The phone is fast enough that it loads apps quickly even if they're not sitting in the ram, so I prefer to hit the autokill widget once in a while or after using something like the youtube app or other resource hogging apps that I don't use on a regular basis.
I haven't noticed a difference in battery life, but the task manager improves my experience with the phone. It seems that as long as the free memory stays around 40+ I don't see the sluggishness.
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My screen always in lowest light mode......i will try to install the advance task....hope it deos help abit.
McFroger3 said:
Keep the screen brightness as low as you can. Also having a lot of widgets can contribute to battery drain.
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My screen always in lowest light mode......i will try to install the advance task....hope it deos help abit.
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Advance task manager also lets you set a timer for auto closing all open apps except for the ones you have on your exception list.
chocodip said:
hi all,
i m new user for Nexus one, i wonder what is the best task apps to auto kill when the phone in sleep mode in order to save battery. My phone havent ROOT yet, shall i do it? After i have update the Android 2.1 i found it very good compare with iphone.
thank you very much
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Try Juice Defender,is free on the market and everytime you turn the screen to sleep it kills the background data to save battery and @ wake-up its normal again.Read the reviews.
rossiscatch said:
while this is true, I notice that android's threshold for closing programs is lower than I prefer. It seems to start closing programs at around 25 mb free (on stock kernel and rom) as reported by ES strong's task manager. At this level there is a noticeable amount of sluggishness on my N1. Of course this only lasts for perhaps 10 seconds or so as I am switching apps or whatever until android closes the processes to free up some ram.
I've read comments like yours many times, and I go back to not using one for a while thinking I must just be paranoid. Each time I return to the task manager because I get ticked about sluggishness.
If you manage your ignore list carefully to avoid closing stuff you actually want running in the background you lose nothing. The phone is fast enough that it loads apps quickly even if they're not sitting in the ram, so I prefer to hit the autokill widget once in a while or after using something like the youtube app or other resource hogging apps that I don't use on a regular basis.
I haven't noticed a difference in battery life, but the task manager improves my experience with the phone. It seems that as long as the free memory stays around 40+ I don't see the sluggishness.
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I've got over 400 hours of uptime without closing ANY apps with a task killer, and haven't had ANY sluggishness. So if you're really noticing your phone slowing down (and be honest), then I'd exchange it. Frankly, I think a lot of people just "think" their phone is slowing down...
Cyanogen says don't use a Task killer!
Paul22000 said:
Cyanogen says don't use a Task killer!
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So if cyanogen says jump of a bridge you would? lol
Just messing with you.
I ve installed the Juicedefender and advance task manger......hope meanwhile there will be sthg better. Battery usage is killing me....
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I've got over 400 hours of uptime without closing ANY apps with a task killer, and haven't had ANY sluggishness. So if you're really noticing your phone slowing down (and be honest), then I'd exchange it. Frankly, I think a lot of people just "think" their phone is slowing down...
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Yeah, I'm sure you're right.. it's all in my head.
Couple of things OP:
1. Bluetooth is a battery hog!
2. How frequent do you have email update, weather update, et al set to?
3. Did you properly calibrate your battery meter when you got your N1? (Two ways to do it, 1) follow the in box guide and charge the phone before using or 2) run down the battery until the phone shuts itself off, pull battery out, put it back in. Now, without turning it back on, put it on the charger and leave it on for a couple hours past the green light coming on, take off charge, finally turn back on)
4. Do you have WiFi running? GPS? Streaming anything?
Have you downloaded any apps from the market just on a quim? There are some pretty bad apps that will never close until you uninstall and do a soft reset, and sometimes uninstall again.
Killing apps is actually going to hurt your battery. It takes more juice to power up the CPU to open an app then it does to hold it in the RAM, unless it is a crap written app that keeps running, and running, and running... but you shouldn't be using those apps anyways.
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Yeah, I'm sure you're right.. it's all in my head.
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It most likely is... even when apps sit idle in RAM, the CPU usage for them is 0% in almost every case. Like I said... I don't have those issues at all, so it's either in your head or you have a dud.
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It most likely is... even when apps sit idle in RAM, the CPU usage for them is 0% in almost every case. Like I said... I don't have those issues at all, so it's either in your head or you have a dud.
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I don't think it's a problem with my phone. If you don't notice then good for you. I notice it and it bothers me. Your finger pointing is neither helpful or needed.
Those of you running auto killer in your roms, did you use the aggressive settings or custom?
I'm just curious to see if anyone increased the auto kill.
I use either the aggressive or custom depending on the Rom honestly. DC ROMS= Aggressive. FRESH ROMS= strict. and all others = custom
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I have the damagecontrol rom and I dont know if it came with auto killer or what...I restored my titanium backup and all i know is i dont have it now...is there an apk floating around for it?
Try the market
I thought it was a custom xda application. I didn't see it in
the market.
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I've been using Aggressive on Fresh 2.0d and it's been running great.
I tried Moderate for a while at first, but Homerun Battle 3D wouldn't even startup consistently. Once I changed it to Aggressive it has been working great.
Another quick note. I know Autokiller is supposed to reapply the settings on boot, but I'm not sure mine is. I haven't rebooted for a day or so, but the last couple times I rebooted I couldn't get Homerun Battle to run. Then I went into Autokiller and applied Aggressive again and it would start. Anybody else having similar experiences?
I used either the aggressive or strick on Fresh 2.0d. So far everything is running the smooth and fast. This the way HTC hero should have come out of the box.
What does each preset do? Is this for speed or battery life or both?
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I've been using Aggressive on Fresh 2.0d and it's been running great.
I tried Moderate for a while at first, but Homerun Battle 3D wouldn't even startup consistently. Once I changed it to Aggressive it has been working great.
Another quick note. I know Autokiller is supposed to reapply the settings on boot, but I'm not sure mine is. I haven't rebooted for a day or so, but the last couple times I rebooted I couldn't get Homerun Battle to run. Then I went into Autokiller and applied Aggressive again and it would start. Anybody else having similar experiences?
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Damn. I wish Homerun Battle 3D would run great for me. Problem is I get crummy service at work and with it going in and out of 1x and EVDO, causes the game to lag.
I have noticed sometimes on first opening HRB, it force closes but it always opens the second time.
james33440 said:
Those of you running auto killer in your roms, did you use the aggressive settings or custom?
I'm just curious to see if anyone increased the auto kill.
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i'm running aosp 1.6 from gbhil and i used custom autokiller settings.
the way i see it they made these phones with all this ram may as well use it, what good is it to have all this free ram?
1536,3072,4096 (all default) then hidden app is 7680. content provider is 8960 and empty app is 10240. i normally run around 40-45 free ram thats about where i like it. the phone still runs fine all the way down to 20mb free but any less than that it starts going downhill.
so, im MB my settings are 30 then 35 then 40. runs great!
yeah, I get some lag now and then if I don't have great service. Playing offline seems to work fine though. I think it's just the online play that it effects. A co-worker has a Droid and his lags when playing online as well if he's in a spot without good service.
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yeah, I get some lag now and then if I don't have great service. Playing offline seems to work fine though. I think it's just the online play that it effects. A co-worker has a Droid and his lags when playing online as well if he's in a spot without good service.
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Well, mine actually lags on offline play too. As long as the phone isnt switching back and forth, it runs smooth.
How can you remove this autokiller crap, I have tried freshkitchen, uninstaller, and from settings-applications menu, all to no avail
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How can you remove this autokiller crap, I have tried freshkitchen, uninstaller, and from settings-applications menu, all to no avail
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Using command prompt (adb)
adb shell
# rm Autokiller.apk
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Using command prompt (adb)
adb shell
# rm Autokiller.apk
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Ohh thanks much appreciated.
I did not try that way, I figured if it couldn't be done in freshkitchen then it was just built into the rom. Thanks much again
Just stop using task killers entirely. This isn't Windows Mobile guys. You're getting all OCD in here about the placebo effect.
Sawawa said:
Just stop using task killers entirely. This isn't Windows Mobile guys. You're getting all OCD in here about the placebo effect.
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Autokiller does have a built in task killer but its real use is to tweak memory settings at boot and then shuts itself down (so Android can take care of the rest). So, in reality it is not really a task killer per say.
Fair enough, but it's still entirely pointless. I trust the device manufacturer and Android far more than I ever would the random numbers that I might otherwise delude myself into believing were somehow better.
Just let Android do its thing all of the time. It doesn't need any additional help (particularly with the process management in 2.1). Stop including this garbage in ROMs.
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Fair enough, but it's still entirely pointless. I trust the device manufacturer and Android far more than I ever would the random numbers that I might otherwise delude myself into believing were somehow better.
Just let Android do its thing all of the time. It doesn't need any additional help (particularly with the process management in 2.1). Stop including this garbage in ROMs.
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It actually very useful for making roms run smoother. By default the memory numbers are very low, which lets a TON of apps run at the same time. The higher the memory numbers the more it ends apps that you werent even using. It gives what you are currently running or recently ran more priority. Even if you dont use AutoKiller, which is just an app to adjust the memory setting, every rom comes with an edited memory setting other then htc's default. Its most commonly known as gumbo's memory settings.
Also in AutoKiller you can adjust the settings to default, or just really low like htc would have them set.
Its really not a bad thing to include in roms because most people want there rom to be smooth and as close to lag free as they can get. AutoKiller helps achieve that by ending stuff you dont currently have up making the phone run faster. Thats if you have a decently set setting. I run mine on optimum, and it doenst close unnecessary things like if im on the web it stays running.
I can understand an app like Task Killer which just terminates the apps. AutoKiller is just setting the memory setting of your phone, which end apps the same way as if the phone were running normally. Just if the numbers are higher the more apps it will end quicker freeing up more space.
Also you really trust htc and sprint?? haha good luck with that
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It actually very useful for making roms run smoother. By default the memory numbers are very low, which lets a TON of apps run at the same time. The higher the memory numbers the more it ends apps that you werent even using. It gives what you are currently running or recently ran more priority. Even if you dont use AutoKiller, which is just an app to adjust the memory setting, every rom comes with an edited memory setting other then htc's default. Its most commonly known as gumbo's memory settings.
Also in AutoKiller you can adjust the settings to default, or just really low like htc would have them set.
Its really not a bad thing to include in roms because most people want there rom to be smooth and as close to lag free as they can get. AutoKiller helps achieve that by ending stuff you dont currently have up making the phone run faster. Thats if you have a decently set setting. I run mine on optimum, and it doenst close unnecessary things like if im on the web it stays running.
I can understand an app like Task Killer which just terminates the apps. AutoKiller is just setting the memory setting of your phone, which end apps the same way as if the phone were running normally. Just if the numbers are higher the more apps it will end quicker freeing up more space.
Also you really trust htc and sprint?? haha good luck with that
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Either way it should be a choice made by the USER not someone who decides what I need or do not need on my phone. What I choose to have running or not running, there is no need for this garbage for the average joe who just wants something that does not look and feel like Sprint garbage. If its such a great and useful thing put it on the market and let users have a choice.
I'm having some awful slow-down issues with my N1. Like, 3 second delays between clicking widgets and their intended effect, and even longer switching between home screens (if the screens switch at all).
There's no auto task-killer enabled, I've very recently wiped and re-installed CM, and cleaned out my unused apps. I've got around 200MB of RAM free, constantly. SetCPU is keeping my processor at 461MHz or higher. This is obnoxious as balls, and I can't think of much. :s
Any suggestions?
I'm running CM 5.0.6, btw.
i have the same problem
My N1 is not rooted and I am experiencing slowdowns. When opening txt messages now take 3-5 seconds, and typing completely locks sometimes for 20 seconds. Gmail now takes 5+sec to open and other apps are also seeing this. I just had 10+ programs update themselves and all these issues started appearing suddenly. Also when exiting apps my desktop will be blank for 3-5 seconds. This just happened all within the past 2 weeks or so.
reddragon72 said:
This just happened all within the past 2 weeks or so.
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Yeah, the issue is very recent for me too. Last week.
I am wondering if Google sent out an OTA that is prepping the phone for the 2.2 update??? The reason I say this and not point to an app is the simple fact that I have all my apps stopped completely and the issues still exist.
reddragon72 said:
I am wondering if Google sent out an OTA that is prepping the phone for the 2.2 update??? The reason I say this and not point to an app is the simple fact that I have all my apps stopped completely and the issues still exist.
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Mmm, I dunno about that. I'm running CyanogenMod. I don't get OTA updates. Do you remember, recently, getting an OTA?
Unless it was pushed inside of a market-updated Google app (uhh.. No.), I wouldn't have got it.
Zak Jones! said:
SetCPU is keeping my processor at 461MHz or higher.
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You set your CPU at 461Mhz?? Sure it slow down and lagging. What the point buying a 1Ghz processor phone decide let it run at 461Mhz?
Check the profile if you are not set at 461Mhz, maybe accidently make a profile setting and enable.
Or set your setCPU setting from on demand to on performance.
What kernel are you running?
Andrewtst said:
You set your CPU at 461Mhz?? Sure it slow down and lagging. What the point buying a 1Ghz processor phone decide let it run at 461Mhz?
Check the profile if you are not set at 461Mhz, maybe accidently make a profile setting and enable.
Or set your setCPU setting from on demand to on performance.
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I think he's setting the minimum at 461 hence the "or higher" part.
Well, I can't actually help much except to suggest that perhaps you could try Kang-o-rama (see my sig) and see if that works. It's a stable and fast bundle with no apparent lag. At least I know that setup works.
If you did proceed then posted your results in that thread I might be able to assist. You shouldn't be experiencing lag with this phone... and if you still are after installing Kang-o-rama we could look at logs for you.
No promises but I know Kang-o-rama works...
Success? Sorry for the laggy reply.
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I think he's setting the minimum at 461 hence the "or higher" part.
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Yeah, Copernicus is right, it's at a minimum of 461MHz (now 499MHz.), with a max of 998MHz, running 'on demand'.
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What kernel are you running?
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I'm using whichever kernel comes with CM. (2.6.33.2 is specified in the relevant section of his changelog.)
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Well, I can't actually help much except to suggest that perhaps you could try Kang-o-rama.
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Yeah, won't lie, I'm sick of reinstalling all my stuff, so I don't want to do it again. If I keep having issues, I'll look into it though.
Just last night, I wiped both the data partition (factory reset?) and cleared the Dalvik(sp?)-cache. Started from scratch (without Google settings sync.), and reinstalled apps one by one. SO FAR, I haven't had the slowdown, but who knows. All I've got installed yet are the applications that I actually had desktop shortcuts to. (I didn't have very many more, but these are the ones I actually used frequently.)
Anyway, yeah, I'll see how this goes.
K, need a suggestion.
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Anyway, yeah, I'll see how this goes.
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Sooo, it's not going. Still experiencing the slowdown. I honestly can't think of what's doing this. Advanced Task Manager reports > 190MB free (28 processes running), SetCPU is still running at 499MHz or greater (I can't get 'show CPU to work in Dev Tools?).
Ending everything in the "All Apps" tab does not fix the problem; it's speedy for about 30 seconds, then resumes being slow, with the same problems (so maybe it's a process taking up all my CPU cycles? (But my CPU isn't scaling up like it would in that situation...))
Anything I can try doing before re-flashing and/or wiping? I'd rather avoid that, but, of course, if it's the only solution, whatever. Maybe try flashing a new ROM?
Can't think of what else to do here, gentlemen.
Get rid of SetCPU. I had it installed and it started weirding out on me, would not set the processor higher than 384 and nothing I did in the profiles would set it back to 1 GHz. After I uninstalled, my phone returned to it's normal speeds.
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Sooo, it's not going. Still experiencing the slowdown. I honestly can't think of what's doing this. Advanced Task Manager reports > 190MB free (28 processes running), SetCPU is still running at 499MHz or greater (I can't get 'show CPU to work in Dev Tools?).
Ending everything in the "All Apps" tab does not fix the problem; it's speedy for about 30 seconds, then resumes being slow, with the same problems (so maybe it's a process taking up all my CPU cycles? (But my CPU isn't scaling up like it would in that situation...))
Anything I can try doing before re-flashing and/or wiping? I'd rather avoid that, but, of course, if it's the only solution, whatever. Maybe try flashing a new ROM?
Can't think of what else to do here, gentlemen.
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You might not like my advice but it's likely to work:
Don't uninstall SetCPU but set your CPU min to 245 and the max to what you want. Disable profiles but select 'Set on Boot' and 'On Demand'. Do nothing else with SetCPU, leave it alone and do not use the active widget. Your current setup is crazy.
Full wipe (as you've done before) data, cache, dalvik-cache, battery, rotate and then install Kang-o-rama 0.7b1 (no, I'm not simply pushing it, I just know it so well that I can assure you it works).
Do not, under any circumstances restore any data or apps for any application with any application. As soon as you set up your Google account go into Settings | Privacy and disable "Back up my settings" and hit Okay.
Install a task manager if you like for monitoring purposes. Install SetCPU as above if you like for OC.
Install no other apps (now that's the painful part) and use your phone for long enough for you to know with certainty whether it's working as you expect.
In all honesty, if it's still broke after that then you've probably got a hardware issue. If it's working after that then slowly add your apps back until you find what's causing the problem.
Good luck, report back.
So far, uninstalling SetCPU is doing wonders for me. Y'know, over the last 15 minutes. I'll use it throughout the day and see if it keeps performing.
Space for future updates:
****ING BALLSACK. <--- First impression of Kang-o-Rama (I decided to just go for it and flash as soon as I saw it included CM.)
^^^^^^^^^^^^ That text is to be read: Kang-o-Rama is amazing. The theme is sexy, I LOVE the Desire camera, and the bundled stuff (kernel, apps, etc) are quite awesome. We'll see if it solves my performance issues.
I was getting the same thing....
Task kill setcpu and reboot it again. If you keep getting the lag then stop using setCPU.
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****ING BALLSACK
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It takes a twisted mind to interpret that as a complement.
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...Kang-o-Rama is amazing...
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But thank you!
Delete all widgets that profile your cpu in any way. Stop killing tasks with task killers. Uninstall setcpu. Set exchange email app to "PUSH". Download "Quick System Info Pro" and check what's using up Cpu.
I had the same problem and it turned out to be 2 things: SetCPU widget and exchange email app stuck in a sync cycle.
Maybe theres an ill-performing app that you installed. Since it seems you wiped your phone a couple times including cache. Did you happen to restore apps thru Titanium backup or manually one at a time thru the market.
I always wipe my phone completely and reinstall all apps manually, time consuming, but I have never had a problem.
To further diagnose your problem, see if after installing each app, try the phone to see if there are any slowdowns afterward. Again, I know this is time consuming, but trying to find the problem rather than living with it would be better.
I'm also using 5.0.6 but with no problems or slowdowns.
You can also post a logcat or look thru it yourself if you know how and see if any errors or hangups occur. Logcats are a great way to see the commands being given to your phone and this will most likely reveal your problem.
Same problem, it's annoying.
Alright...so i wanna see what else is working for other ppl.... Like many others im sure u like ur devices quick and snappy....
Ive noticed that disabling surface dithering helps performance for me.....
With Compcache my home screen doesnt have to reload as much when i go back to it from an app.
I have Jit enabled....still cant decide if it hurts or helps.....anybody else?
I left the vm heap size at 16 (stock) ....im guessing its virtual memory but havent tested different settings...
In ADW launcher I have it set up for 4 screens cuz i dont really need anymore...
I set the Desktop scrolling and overshoot both to 0 and have disabled scrollable widget support, and also disabled the Animated drawer effect and the Fade App Labels.
I have the screen cache and system persistent enabled.
I know the adw launcher settings might not be real performance...but it does make the homescreen and app drawer feel much quicker.
What else do you guys use? Whats working for u?
Avoid froyo2sd like the plague.
There are good things about it, but its implementation is riddled with memory and cpu consumption. We need to kill all 8 trillion redundant mounts and all the encryption to make it viable.... that and get the dalvik cache and home directories onto the sdcard with the apk.
guess ill be moving the apps back to the phone to test out performance....thanx
CM6 has been one of the fastest roms I've ever flashed. Here's my current settings:
I've always used compcache so I'm not sure if it helps performance or not anymore.
VM heap size as I understand it from a few google searches is related to the amount of ram dedicated/allocated to/per background process(es). I currently have mine a 12mb with no weird side effects.
The argument for jit is that it makes opening apps a little slower but it helps out with intensive apps like maps and browser. I have it on and my dialer still opens within 2 seconds, and browser seems better so idk.
ADW with 0 scrolling speed looks ugly and jerky =p I usually stick within 300-400, using only three screens, no dockbar, no nexus dots, sliding top paginator, no drawer animation, no status bar (you can swipe up/down and it shows up anyway), no background on the lab/rab/launcher,no scrollable widgets, screen cache, etc. I only use the calendar, powercontrol, and 4*4 music widget and a handful of icons. I find those settings to be smooth as butter.
I also turned off autorrotation except for 180*, I always find it annoying when I have my phone in my lap or I'm laying down watching tv and it rotates on me, and sometimes it's more comfortable to hold the phone upside down (I also use it when i listen to music so the headphones are on top). Also 3D gallery has no rotate bugs for me....
Yeah those settings haven't failed me yet. I haven't even gotten around to overclocking since its so good and speedy.
I noticed a huge difference when I swapped from adwlauncher to launcherpro, launcherpro just seems a lot faster and smoother then adw. I'm also running compcache and jit, overclocked to 610mhz. I'm getting linpack scores of.4.25 MFLOPS, quadrant scores of 370 and neocore scores of 21FPS(sound) and 24.1FPS(no sound). My phone is definitely running faster then it ever has..now the real test is mastering swype...
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how did U overclock to 610
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how did U overclock to 610
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same question. what kernal did you use to overclock above 576? when you used a different kernal, did it break wifi or anything?
my experience:
I left OC at 576,
turned off dithering
turned compcache on
turned jit on, and reboot
no swap, but type free in terminal to make sure compcache is working.
go into normal phone settings > display > turned off all animations
go into ADW settings and turned off animations, turned desktop scrolling speed to as fast as possible, turned off animated drawer, make sure system persistent is checked, and just made sure all scrolling speeds are set to as fast as possible with no animations or fades.
for me this thing is flying. as fast as any donut I ever flashed and way faster then any 2.1. with the above settings, im constantly getting a little over 4 mflops.
no lag, and only once in a while will it reload the launcher when returning to home. if i enable swap it may never do it
get a random FC every one in a while (not often at all) but no big deal.
just wanted to share what i did and my experience so far
still wondering if anyone has OC past 576 and with what kernal. if so, what any problems? or battery life issues?
I really don't suggest a bigger OC then 576 unless you have a big battery....
My findings are each Mhz of overclock drives down battery 2%. My phone overclocks steady at 691 w/ no reboot but battery doesn't live more then a few hours. I haven't even used set cpu yet since I feel the rom is fast enough.
Oh and linpack results don't really matter at all.... Your phone does not often have to perform loads of math and java calculations...
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I really don't suggest a bigger OC then 576 unless you have a big battery....
My findings are each Mhz of overclock drives down battery 2%. My phone overclocks steady at 691 w/ no reboot but battery doesn't live more then a few hours. I haven't even used set cpu yet since I feel the rom is fast enough.
Oh and linpack results don't really matter at all.... Your hpone does not often have to preform loads of math and java calculations...
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ok thanks.
i know you said you have not used set cpu yet, but I think CM6 is overclocked to 576 automatically upon flashing the rom
at least when i hit autodetect, it detected 576 and 122
I hate all you people.
CM6 runs HORRIBLY slow for me. Tried every speed tip I can do - it's just unreasonably slow. Yes, I wiped before I flashed, even redownloaded CM6 and have latest gapps. Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm talking about so slow I can't get to my homescreen from an app in less than 30 seconds.
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I hate all you people.
CM6 runs HORRIBLY slow for me. Tried every speed tip I can do - it's just unreasonably slow. Yes, I wiped before I flashed, even redownloaded CM6 and have latest gapps. Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm talking about so slow I can't get to my homescreen from an app in less than 30 seconds.
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im on mytouch 32b also. sorry to hear about your really bad experience.
i know you tried everything, but you could always re-wipe everything, flash rom, flash gaps 3 then try all the tweaks I posted in this thread on previous page
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I hate all you people.
CM6 runs HORRIBLY slow for me. Tried every speed tip I can do - it's just unreasonably slow. Yes, I wiped before I flashed, even redownloaded CM6 and have latest gapps. Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm talking about so slow I can't get to my homescreen from an app in less than 30 seconds.
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Try checking persistant home in ADW settings
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I hate all you people.
CM6 runs HORRIBLY slow for me. Tried every speed tip I can do - it's just unreasonably slow. Yes, I wiped before I flashed, even redownloaded CM6 and have latest gapps. Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm talking about so slow I can't get to my homescreen from an app in less than 30 seconds.
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do the persistant thing in adw it keeps launcher in memory after that rare home reloads use set cpu and oc to 576 and a528 thats what i have and i would suggest doing fix_permissions through terminal just did that it took like 3 min but damn its freaking fast now and i was about to get rid of cm6 cause it was starting to run sluggish
I've been using: compcache on, JIT on, dithering off (which was a big one), and VM size set to 16. Also I ditched ADW for LauncherPro and CM6 is no slower than CM5 was for me, if anything its faster. I'm loving that my G1 boots twice as fast on CM6
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same question. what kernal did you use to overclock above 576? when you used a different kernal, did it break wifi or anything?
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I used dumfuqs 610 kernel to OC it runs fine with wifi. I agree it strains the battery but I'm not overly fussed over battery life.
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I used dumfuqs 610 kernel to OC it runs fine with wifi. I agree it strains the battery but I'm not overly fussed over battery life.
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it was either the 710 or 614......
gringo69 said:
it was either the 710 or 614......
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Hahaha **** at time of writing I must of been confused too I meant the 614 .
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im on mytouch 32b also. sorry to hear about your really bad experience.
i know you tried everything, but you could always re-wipe everything, flash rom, flash gaps 3 then try all the tweaks I posted in this thread on previous page
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Try checking persistant home in ADW settings
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do the persistant thing in adw it keeps launcher in memory after that rare home reloads use set cpu and oc to 576 and a528 thats what i have and i would suggest doing fix_permissions through terminal just did that it took like 3 min but damn its freaking fast now and i was about to get rid of cm6 cause it was starting to run sluggish
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Done it all. :/ When I mean horribly laggy, I mean that I would miss a phone call before the phone got off of the lockscreen to accept it. :/
I'm persistent, though, and tried again today. For some reason everything seems to be running like it should now. Time to finally get to try these speed tips. =]
Dialer
anyone else having problems with being able to answer calls? the slider doesnt show at all
ive tried:
kanging the Phone.apk from the LFD froyo
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installing the Phone.apk from the Cytown thread none which have worked and yes ive flashed, wiped and done everything correctly
Hi all,
I've had this phone for a few days now and love it. However I find I have very little RAM available.
I have on average around 30-40mb of ram available and the phone sometimes slows down quite a bit. I've ad a look at the running apps and the main culprit was SPB Shell launcher which was using around 50mb. I have since stopped using this but I am still only getting around 40-50mb remaining (with timescape disabled) and again a sluggish phone at times.
How is everyone else's?
I am thinking of doing a factory reset and start afresh to see what app may be causing the problem.
Any other suggestions or is this normal with this phone?
Thanks for your replies.
I have the same. I thought it was down to having over a thousand contacts all duplicated in exchange and google.
I have 130m of internal space available. Is there any way of re assigning it as you can in windows mobile?
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My Average Free ram @150 MB
135 - 140ΜΒ here.
Have been checking with Advanced Task Killer (ofcourse NOT automatically set to kill everything, but fully manually every now and then), and noticed that there were times when the phone just left plenty of unnecessary apps wondering around in the background. Apps that are not the "always-on" by android system. So I kill EVERYTHING else except from:
1) Clock
2) TrackID
3) LiveWare
4) Media Sharing
5) Maps
6) Hanashi (WTF is that?!? it ALWAYS comes back by system.)
7) Setup wizard
(What remains always active by system also depends on the widgets you have, e.g. I have TrackID widget, you might not have it, so you wont need it.)
and have even noticed better battery performance...
EG, during nightime, I left the phone untouched (not used ATK), and when I woke up, I had a 12-13% battery drop, while the other day, after a fresh cleaning before sleeping, got around 4-5% drop. Both times with same conditions...
I have about 140 free and nerver under 100
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What to you recommend to stop the unused processes from re starting again?
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Try Advanced Task Killer
Yeah I have about 150mb free.
And can I say coming from the x10, this phone is rediculously smooth. I love it!
Can we expect more free RAM once it's rooted/a custom fw is available?
This obsession about RAM needs to stop!!!!! 2.3 manages memory very well and you shouldn't be having any issues with the phone, unless you start messing with it (task killing the wrong things for example).. My phone is running really smoothly.
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This obsession about RAM needs to stop!!!!! 2.3 manages memory very well and you shouldn't be having any issues with the phone, unless you start messing with it (task killing the wrong things for example).. My phone is running really smoothly.
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The reason I asked is that my phone does not run smoothly at times but very laggy and some items (contacts, emails etc) can take an age to load (well not an age but seconds but it feels like an age )
I was just wondering if this was the norm or not.
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This obsession about RAM needs to stop!!!!! 2.3 manages memory very well and you shouldn't be having any issues with the phone, unless you start messing with it (task killing the wrong things for example).. My phone is running really smoothly.
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Yeap, 2.3 handles RAM almos perfectly. EG, if you open as many apps as you want and just leave them in the background, when you try to launch a HUGE game (eg Asphalt 6), the system will free as much RAM as required for the game to run smoothly.
BUT, I have noticed that some apps are left idle without me usng them (and without being system triggered apps, which when closed, are not resprang), and are not automatically closed by system. I tested leaving overnight the phone without killing anything after a days usage (with more than 15 apps in the background), and while being at 15% when left at night (around 01:00 am), it was off in the morning (7:30 am).
Then I did a fresh reset to the device, noticed what apps are automatically opened by system, and protected them (unchecked them) from Advanced Task Killer (which was set to manual), so that it will not shut them down when I click the "kill all" button. Next night, I killed all non-system apps (that do not restart if you do no action), and left the phone overnight again to see if there is any difference. Battery dropped around 5%.
I did this twice under same conditions (same time gap, BT open etc.), and results were almost the same +/- 2%.
So IMHO, if you use a task killer app wisely, you could manage to get better battery performance when the phone is idle, but you will NOT get better performance (smoother UI etc.)
Again, all these IMHO.
@dragunov - completely agree with everything you're saying.. it's the difference between knowing what you're doing and blindly killing tasks because someone said it helps!!!
for the OP - would suggest figuring out what it is you've got running that's causing the lag cos it's not the phone hardware/ OS that's at fault - This is the only drawback of Android vs iPhone -the QA of the apps on the market doesn't pick up this sort of problem.
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for the OP - would suggest figuring out what it is you've got running that's causing the lag cos it's not the phone hardware/ OS that's at fault - This is the only drawback of Android vs iPhone -the QA of the apps on the market doesn't pick up this sort of problem.
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Thanks, thats what I intend to do. A factory reset and the re-install gradually my apps to see which ones are the problems.
When I first got the phone I loaded it up with apps so it will now be difficult to retrace so a fresh start is what I will do.
A quick update. I have done a factory reset and although the phone is smoother I still only have 40-50mb free (only app I installed was swype).
Can I just ask what free ram other users have?
Thanks
Right now.. 60Mb.
I had about 150 out of the box while taskkiller always said about 5 apps running background (not installed by me).
Now yesterday my arc froze while browsing the web and rebootet itself (screen was scary, single pixles loosing light while some were still on till everything was off).
Now that was the only time the arc did that and afterwards task killer now (after killing apps) only shows 2 or 3 apps running background and up to 195MB free RAM which is cool but scary at the same time ...
Still can recieve phone calls though and everything works ... well Im happy for more RAM
Oh yeah, got swype on my whitelist.
Honestly I don't understand the need for more ram?
having 60mb is similar to having 200mb, it's all about applications reserving their spots, once they needed they'll kick in, otherwise they stay idle ( talking about system apps and well developed applications )
even if you have 60mb you still can run games that require 100mb... smoothly
the lag some face is due to background application using the processor
I usese autokiller memory optimizer. See unlike the other appear that kill everything, autokiller mo just optimizes the Android system so you wont have to go hunting for those apps.
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Honestly I don't understand the need for more ram?
having 60mb is similar to having 200mb, it's all about applications reserving their spots, once they needed they'll kick in, otherwise they stay idle ( talking about system apps and well developed applications )
even if you have 60mb you still can run games that require 100mb... smoothly
the lag some face is due to background application using the processor
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Doesn't matter how many times we say it people just won't get it!!..
Spare memory is WASTED memory.. this is ANDROID/ Linux.. this is NOT MS Windows... it's DIFFERENT!!