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Hi Folks,
I was unlucky/ lucky enough to smash my Hermes in to bits the other day.
Insurance stumped up the cost of a spanking new Vario II from the T-Mobile shop the same afternoon.
It came back with the original ROM 1.21.110.3, Radio 1.16.00.00.
I have a problem (Duh! otherwise I wouldn't be posting)....
Every time I receive an incoming call when I'm on the phone, I press answer to pick it up, (thereby putting Caller 1 on hold normally), Caller 1 goes on hold, and phone freezes, Kupput!
Bizarre huh!
2nd time round, I thought, I'd ignore the call, press the button, some bloody thing!
Now I have to let the call ring off to answer phone if I'm on the other line.
I also seem to have to reboot the old phone rather a lot (3 times a day).
Was this a dodgy ROM, or do you think it's hardware related?
The only reason I'm reluctant to upgrade the ROM is that if it's hardware I can just take it back to the shop.
Many thanks in advance,
Andy
Your title sounds like a bad porno
Anyways, you can try a new ROM and if it turns out to be hardware, you can downgrade to the stock ROM/radio.
I think its the ROM as mines still stock rom and i have Noticed that, some times it works but most of the time it hangs, when i do switch to the other incoming call it seems to cut the other person off and not hold them, but that could be me doing it wrong lol
normally i just leave the other incoming call "ringing" then they can leave a voice message and i can ring them back, would rather do that than lose both call's
maybe someone with a non stock rom could help out with this one and post if it does the same on theirs or not
If I were you I would take it back to the shop and get it exchanged now. If its a hardware problem you are not likely to be unlucky enough to get 2 phones with the same hardware problem. This way you are reasonbly safe.
If you find that the second phone also has the same issue you can then install a different rom and see how you go. Easier to do it this way than to go through the pain of reversing roms just to send the kit back.
What you haven't said is whether this is a WM5 or WM6. If WM5 I had hellish problems with my Tytn when I first got it with freezing problems, etc. I was on the brink of getting a sledgehammer out and smashing it to bits when I discovered this website. Since I moved to WM6, upgraded my radio, and used all the various hints and tips e.g. the one around activesync, life has been much easier.
Hope you get it sorted.
WB
I`m having an awful problem with my HD2.
When using the GSM Band the phone drops almost all of the calls when I cover the proximity sensor. I have tried all ROMs till now but that didn`t help. Also made several hard resets ...
So after a hard reset the Network Band is set always to AUTO. At AUTO when the phone switches from 3G to GSM it automatically ends the call. That`s why I tried using just 3G. When using 3G I don`t get drop calls. But when I tried the GSM option I get it all the time. I have 3 or 4 signal lines, but it still drops the calls.
When I don`t cover the proximity sensor and leave the phone on the table the call doesn`t drop at all - it works perfect in GSM or 3G. That`s strangest part of the problem. How come the proximity sensor has anything to do with the Band of the phone ???
I don`t know exactly what to do .. don`t want to get the phone to repair center because it will take a lot of time to be returned.
Someone had a same issue? Or if someone knows a way to fix this ?
THANK YOU IN ADVANCED !!!
Really someone ?
Have you tried a hardreset? The proximitysensor shouldnt interfere with the radio and definately not drop calls... Have you tweaked your device using an app (ie BsB or similar)?
have you tried a new radio?
Device works like this Hardware<->radio<->rom
So the radio communicates with the hardware and the rom with the radio.
So the radio commands all the hardware functions, not only the "radio" components.
So with a new radio you can have a better way off communication with the hardware and with the rom
I've just tested, and this doesn't happen to me.
However, there is an update for the radio available (actually, it's that SIM Contacts update). Did you apply it? For I didn't do that yet.
And in case you have, it would be interesting to know if others who have applied the update are facing similar problems...
Are you sure that you're not holding the phone at the bottom/back when you test the proximity sensor, I've noticed that touching this area of the phone (where the antenna is located) can have a massive difference to signal strength and in weak areas it can make you drop the call everytime.
WoW ...
Thank you for so many replies.
1st. SMUPPY - I`ve tried all official ROM`s + several cooked ROM`s + 1.61. I also tried without any applications installed, just after I make a hardreset (have made over 50 at least ). Same situation.
2nd. thomas_pieps - Now I`ll try installing ALL different radio ROM`s out there and see if anything helps. Thanks !
3rd. amang2205 - I don`t know about that SIM Contacts update ... will try and post results !
4th. Noony - I never had problems with the reception of signal at all. It happens when the signal is strong enough to drop calls. I tested it with the phone on the table, so without holding it. Immediately after covering the proximity sensor with my hand the call is dropped. So that`s not the issue here!
Thanks all again for all replies. Hope I can fix something !
UPDATE !!!!
Tried installing the hotfix and tried all different radio ROM`s out there.
SAME RESULT .... the problem still exists.
It was an obvious result because as I said previously, that happened also when using the first 1.43 ROM without installing any radio ROM`s or any other 3rd party software. Also after hard reset the result was the same. So I don`t think it`s the radio.
Just can`t figure it out. How come the proximity sensor has anything to do with the network BAND I select ?
How can that be connected ? I would make a video showing exactly where the problem is ....
This is sounding more and more like a hardware fault. The PS should not have any impact on the call connection.
You need to speak to customer support from where you bought it, and ask for a replacement. If you do this, make sure you flash the original ROM back to it
I have another (I assume) hardware issue, because I can`t turn my phone completely off. After selecting TURN OFF it just restarts, or whenever I pull out the battery and place it again the phone starts alone, without me having to press the power button.
Maybe it has something to do with the other problem ... I don`t really know.
The only solution is to go to the store I bought it from .... MAYBE it`s just that!
yep, it sounds like your phone definitely has a case of the crazies. flash back to original spl + stock rom and get a replacement.
Noony said:
Are you sure that you're not holding the phone at the bottom/back when you test the proximity sensor, I've noticed that touching this area of the phone (where the antenna is located) can have a massive difference to signal strength and in weak areas it can make you drop the call everytime.
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That is *very* true. Question is: how the h*ll am I supposed to hold the phone, if covering the back with my hand causes the signal to drop?
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This is sounding more and more like a hardware fault. The PS should not have any impact on the call connection.
You need to speak to customer support from where you bought it, and ask for a replacement. If you do this, make sure you flash the original ROM back to it
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Agree wth above, hardware fault.
ps. let us know how things progress!
Finaly I went a sent my phone to repair... will update when it arrives back ... hopefully I will have a brand new phone !!!
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I have another (I assume) hardware issue, because I can`t turn my phone completely off. After selecting TURN OFF it just restarts, or whenever I pull out the battery and place it again the phone starts alone, without me having to press the power button.
Maybe it has something to do with the other problem ... I don`t really know.
The only solution is to go to the store I bought it from .... MAYBE it`s just that!
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I'm not an expert or anything
but it looks like you have a problem with the OFF Button. As this button responcible for turning the phone on/off and ending the calls as well..
so maybe there is an electrical problem with the phone and it glitches..
any way
good luck
Voffchik said:
I'm not an expert or anything
but it looks like you have a problem with the OFF Button. As this button responcible for turning the phone on/off and ending the calls as well..
so maybe there is an electrical problem with the phone and it glitches..
any way
good luck
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Thought of that too. Maybe it`s something like that. I remember the first time I realized there is a problem ... the OFF button stopped working at all after doing something with the phone (don`t remember what, but it wasn`t anything unusual). It wasn`t functioning for couple of hours and then it started working again. After that happened I started finding problems. So maybe you`re right. Maybe it`s the electricity or something. If there is an expert with hardware around here, maybe he can tell the actual reason for why this is happening.
Strange that it has connection with the network band and with the proximity sensor. If someone had explained a problem like that to me, I would not believe that it`s true. It sounds so strange ...
I open a new thread because those already opened are quite dead... the subject is the proximity sensor on the HTC HD2... as i described in oter places this is the behaviour:
Upon receiving calls ALL works as it should
Sometimes when making a call:
1. dial a number
2. press talk
3. take the phone to my ear
4. the screen turns off
5. it starts ringing
6. THE SCREEN GOES ON
7. take the phone from my ear and put it back
8. the screen goes off
9. it answers on the other side
10. THE SCREEN GOES ON
11. take the phone from my ear and put it back
12. the screen goes off and all works well from now on on this call
I have at least a number that EVERYTIME when called does not acts like this... the proximity sensor does its job very well
I have at least one numbet that almost always did the steps described from 1to 12... only 4-5 times it didn't
If i get a busy tone the screen turns on... it will turn of if i do step 7
I've put back original rom and i have the same behaviour. I tried with clean roms and noting installed... still the same...
One time on a clean rom... I called a number that always did that and the first two calls were ok, after that it started again...
Now I'm using Hyper ROM 8.0 and I see that after step 6 if i keep the phone to my ear th screen will turn itself off after a sec or so... i cannot say right now if always...
Considering that this does not happens to many of us and it is not something permanent I think it can have something to do with the network... I don't know exactly what but this is my guess; like in the moments the screen turns on maybe the networks sends out a "signal" like the call would be over... I know it sounds weird but I don't know what else to think...
I even attached a poll to see who gets this behaviour...
So, to all the CHEFS out there... please help.... because HTC is not willing to... they're answer was not helping at all...
This is weird... I use netDrg's 2.5g ROM and I have no issue with the proximity sensor. Sometimes, when receiving a call, if I rotate the phone from portrait to landscape and then immediately take it to my ear, the screen doesn't turn off, but as soon as the display is back to portrait mode, it turns off. This isn't annoying at all, since I rarely pick up the phone and hold it in landscape to talk !
Maybe you should try a different ROM ? If you understand French well, netDrg's ROM is quite good, although it seems to me that the battery drains faster than with the stock ROM...
french is fine.. actually i would learn any language just to have this fixed... i know about landscape and sensor not working... but it is not the case here
it happens so aleatory... i would think it is a hardware issue... BUT i have one number and with it, this NEVER happened
i had almost all the cleanex suite... touch-x, energy and others... i really can't remeber if this happend since the first day i bought it... i've put back the stock rom downloaded from htc and still the same...
ok... i've made like 15-20 calls to the same number and all worked as it should... than all of a sudden it started to do what i've described in first post... just like this... i'm starting to hate this phone...
it looks like i'm not the only one with this issue... how you guys got it solved?..
just a thought... what triggers the screen on on this phone... i know that some apps open the screen... maybe there is a registry tweak to keep the screen off if proximity detected... this should be done automaticly i know... the fact is that the proximity sensor works...
uhm, just to point it out, you should edit your post instead of posting 4 messages in a row in the same thread
Anyway, this is the exact same problem I noticed reported in another thread, and I didn't have it, I mostly receive and rarely call, yet the few times I called I don't seem to remember such problems, will try and remember to test with my other mobile when I get back home.
today i went back to default rom that came with my phone...
RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_EastEurope_1.48.479.1_Radio_Signed_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2_Ship
and still it does the same
i HSPL again and than put
RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship
the same thing
if I call my home landline it works perfectly... if i call one of the numbers i was telling you about it acts like described in post #1
one other thing i discovered though... with the original roms there is a courtain over the buttons on the phone canvas... this not only blocks aditional buttons on the screen but also blocks the top taskbar... wich is a goos thing
anyway for a 4-500 euros phone this thing i'm having shouldn't happen...
still searching... i've seens something with Rilphone.dll... can this make a difference?
LE: Rilphone.dll broke thephone module... hard reset...
Same here ccezar
I only realised in the last couple of weeks that I've hung up on people a few times & sometimes I've tried making the same call on the spot like 5 times in a row & the line has been cut off before it evens rings, which brings me to say that different behaviours on different calling numbers is just a coincidence.
Sort of experimenting at the moment, I think that when I dial, & put the phone to my ear slowly it works. i can see the screen turn off, & the call goes smoothly. Although after I've hung up sometimes the comm manager or arkswitch is on my screen, which only mean that the taskbar is still active...
I almost thought that the screen may have been switching off but the touch function was still there at least for a few more seconds...
There are hundreds(thousands maybe) of us HD2 owners out there, so my feeling is that if there ain't many complaints, it may aswell be a faulty device.
Then again I wonder if that phone canvs slider would make a diference? Anyone know if there's cab for this?
What radio you using
The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that the 2.10.... radios is the culprit for me.
I just flashed my old 2.07.50.27_2 radio, will test for a day or so and see what happens.
If your on a 2.10.50.. radio urself or anyone with the same prob and radio, can I suggest you downgrade to a 2.07 or 2.08/ or 2.09 for euros?
i thought also that it is radio raleted... i tried other radios and still the same...
anyway i don't think it is hardware related... because i have at least one number that never ever got this behaviour... and neither when calling landlines... it is only on some numbers on mobile networks... and i have numbers that get this behaviour only from time to time...
so... how does the proximity sensor works?... when in a call (there is a reg key that appears upon making a call and says activecallcount=1) the proximity sensor activates... if something in the way it turns the screen off... if the call ends the proximity sensor is deactivated... this is where i dont have exact facts... like if i keep the phone to my ear if it will remain with the screen off or once the call ended the screen goes on... i'd go for the second one...
so... my belief is that is has to do with network parameters... you make the call and on steps 5 and 9 from first post i think the phone belives that the call is over... and i guess the network sends a signal that triggers that... i know it sounds like a fairytale...
now i will try to find a sim card from another mobile operator and see if it does the same... i already tried with another seem from my operator and there is no change... maybe if i try a different sim type (there are simple and 3G sims - i have a simple one)
i'll keep digging... anyway... at least one mobile number and all landlines numbers this NEVER HAPPENED...
well that just makes sense ccezar. I'll do the same over the weekend & see what happens.
with another providers sim card that is.
Hey when say you tried with nothing installed, was cookie's hometab on the rom? just a thought
i don't think so... because i also tried with a stock original rom...
LE: i just realized that my phone is network locked... how can i unlock it?
ccezar2004 said:
i don't think so... because i also tried with a stock original rom...
LE: i just realized that my phone is network locked... how can i unlock it?
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I couldn't tell ya, I can suggest that if you're on a contract your paying for the phone anyway, so you should be able to ring the phone op & ask them for the codes. Where I am, the only time I couldn't have it unlocked is if it was pre paid & less than 12 months old.
after long debates that's the conclusion of HTC
The only option that is left now is to send the device to the Repair Centre so the engineers could examine it. Your device is still under the warranty. But after the diagnosis the engineers will determine whether the fault of the unit is due to misusage, accidental damage or a manufactured fault. Before proceeding with the repair you’ll be notified with the cost of the repair, if it is an out of warranty case. Kindly note that your phone has a global warranty, which means if you have any issues with the phone and would like to get it examined (repaired) it will be through one of our global repair centers Please follow the link below for information about those repair centers. http://www.htc.com/uk/CA_Hotline.aspx?region=GWS Bear in mind as well that if you have European warranty, you’ll be able to repair your phone in any official repair centre in the European Union. Thank you for using HTC products. Please contact us again if you have any questions. Best Regards, HTC Team
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bummer
Hi, i bought an used exec from ebay and received it right now (the seller sayed it was 100% functional) but it have some issues and i want to know if these issues can be easily fixed, if they are sofware or hardware problem... and... HOW TO FIX THEM .
So... here is:
1.: The phone doens't make any sound, (any speakers works, even when i put a headset it doesnt work). But, when i'm in a call EVERYTHING WORK, i can hear like a normal call, or with speaker normally.
2.: Some times when i turn on the phone it shut down after the "windows mobile" screen or it quikshow the today screen and shut down. So i wait and.. it turns on normally ...and some time after it shows the same issue again.
Please please, help me, i don't know what to do .
Ow, wich button should i press for TURN OFF the phone, not to hibernate...
Very thanks for your attention guys and sorry for my bad english,
Daniel.
Hi,
Weather you send back to warranty or you can have a deep read on my singature link and over there you´ll find a full guide to learn how to do hard reset or install a new ROM.
Good luck,
Thanks but i updated to a new Rom 2 times and the issue is still there and i don't have warranty anymore, the cell phone is used. Please someone help
strangely 2 of my 3 unis have had that issue.
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it resovled itself within the first few hours. i have NO idea what causes it, i wish i could be more help lmfao
I just bought the device yesterday new, and from the first use i had a weird issue, the sound is muted, all sounds , music play, calls with speakers on and screen sound, sometimes it works and sometimes not, when i plug the headset i can hear everything
Any solution ? i won't wast my time to go the warranty, is it software or hardware issue ? i did factory reset and still the issue come back
Seems much like software issue, have you downloaded and installed latest N7100 firmware? With odin you can do it "officially" without losing warranty.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
I will do it hopefully it solve the problem
i did it and told me PASS, but after booting up the device i found the same background and all my settings still there like nothing happened , and now the the all mobile sounds are gone forever even with restart not working
Please guy i need a solution !!!
Still no one to help ?!!! where's the experts ... can anyone at least tell me for sure is it software or hardware issue ? and the warranty can detect that issue ? cause sometimes the sound working fine for hours
tantan911 said:
Still no one to help ?!!! where's the experts ... can anyone at least tell me for sure is it software or hardware issue ? and the warranty can detect that issue ? cause sometimes the sound working fine for hours
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Wow, this stinks. If it were my brand-spanking new phone, I'd return it. It almost sounds like a solder issue. My Note 2 has a very loud speaker with excellent quality (nice bass) while listening to podcasts. When on a call using the earpiece, it's actually too loud. I haven't figured out how to turn it down yet, not a critical issue.
Do you get sound at the Samsung logo when you restart the phone? If not, it's a hardware fault and exchange it.
mi7chy said:
Do you get sound at the Samsung logo when you restart the phone? If not, it's a hardware fault and exchange it.
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The weird thing , sometimes the sound of Samsung logo working at the start up and sometimes not ... when i just got the device and start to unbox it and turn it on .. it didn't make a logo sound .. but later sometimes it does !!!
i gave it to Samsung today and they told me it will take 5 days .. they will make new software format and then check the hardware . i hope they detect the problem cause sometimes it works fine for hour and the sound disable just happen for minutes !!
Any Ideas ?
Thanks for reply
Also, go into the dialer, type in *#0*# and go to the Speaker to see if it works.
I went to the warranty and they told me it will take 5 days for troubleshooting, they said first we are going to install new software then you will have 48 hours for testing, if the problem persist they will change it for me , i don't know if they can discover it, Also here's some link for some users have the same issue :
http://www.askmefast.com/Sound_on_my_galaxy_note_is_muted_without_my_setting_it_why-qna3532721.html
http://www.askmefast.com/No_sound_on_my_Galaxy_note_appears_to_be_muted-qna3527305.html
http://www.askmefast.com/Galaxy_note_turn_mute_automatically-qna2745005.html
http://www.askmefast.com/My_Galaxy_...len_did_not_have_this_problem-qna3975985.html
Thanks
I received it from Samsung Maintenance and they implemented new software installation and told me the problem solved, anyway i took it and just going to my car the issue happened again, i back to them they told me they will troubleshoot it again !!! to be sure that the problem persist !!! WTF
Any ideas will be appreciated
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Any ideas will be appreciated
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try pressing on the main speaker, the point of contacts of most phone speakers are just behind or sides of the actual speakers just to rule out loose contact. also try to master reset if it doesn't work try reinstalling the rom to rule out software problem. Otherwise, I would return it for a replacement. Good luck.
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If pressing on the speaker temporarily solves the problem, I would still ask for replacement.
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try pressing on the main speaker, the point of contacts of most phone speakers are just behind or sides of the actual speakers just to rule out loose contact. also try to master reset if it doesn't work try reinstalling the rom to rule out software problem. Otherwise, I would return it for a replacement. Good luck.
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If pressing on the speaker temporarily solves the problem, I would still ask for replacement.
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I already asked for replacement but 5 days passed and they still trying to troubleshoot it before going to replace ... damn idiots !!!
Anyway , so you saying it's mostly a hardware issue , right ?
Thanks for your support
Did they get this issue fixed for you? Mine is doing basically the same thing, but only the media volume, it gets muted randomly and I can't adjust it, so I reset the phone and then it works.....any ideas???
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my galaxy s3 get a issue like ur problem (( at now i have GalaxyNote2))
after 1 months work with GS3 sounds gone randomly, i flashed my cell with every rom costume and official but no success some nighte when i work with my s3 without sound i hear badly noise from speakers and i turn off my cell and phone gs3 dead complletly
i do everything for recover my cell and i found way to turning on my phone with sound !!! i must warming galaxy s3 to work perfectly when gs3 get cold at first sound gone and second complletly dead
iam so confused on this issue and i forget my s3 and bought galaxy note 2